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Android Wear Hopefuls Call Timeout On Smartwatches (cnet.com)

Things are not looking good for Google's Android Wear. Three of the top Android Wear smartwatches maker have confirmed that they won't be releasing a smartwatch in the waning months of the year. From a CNET report:While LG launched a watch in the first half, it'll have been more than a year since Huawei and Motorola offered an update on their wearables. That marks a reversal from last year, when all three companies launched Android Wear smartwatches at the early September IFA trade show in Berlin in what was supposed to be a resurgence of the platform. At this year's show, Chinese maker Asus was the only major tech company to return with a new Android Wear watch. The poor showing underscores the general lack of enthusiasm for smartwatches, which the industry has touted as the next hot trend in tech. Consumers, however, continue to question the usefulness of these gadgets. Even Apple, which leads the market for smartwatches, saw its shipments fall 55 percent from a year ago in the second quarter, according to IDC. "Smartwatches still have yet to make a significant impression on consumers as a must-have device," said Ramon Llamas, an analyst at IDC. Time stands still for some in the smartwatch market.

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  1. grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Consumers, however, continue to question the usefulness of these gadgets.

    Not optimism in the smartwatch market, optimism about humanity in general.

    1. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humanity is actually pretty sensible in terms of not buying technology when it just doesn't make much sense. Look at 3d TV for example; despite all the hype, people just didn't buy into it, and now you have to look petty hard for the 3d models. Snatched are in a similar position; one day, with future technology that will allow smart watches that last week's on a charge, and have substantially more features than current models, they will make sense. Right now, not so much.

    2. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snatched -> smartwatches

      Speaking of future technology, how about an auto-correct that doesn't bite me in the ass every day?

    3. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Look at 3d TV for example; despite all the hype, people just didn't buy into it, and now you have to look petty hard for the 3d models."

      When we bought a new TV last fall, pretty much all the mid-range models we looked at came with 3D built-in. It just seems to be a tickbox feature now, rather than a selling point... and is pretty much zero cost for the manufacturer (a bit of software, and a Bluetooth chip if they don't already have one).

    4. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a hardware requirement for 3D tv regardless of the type. It either has to have polarization filters built into the screen or it has to support higher than normal framerates and come boxed with special shutter glasses. 3D tv does add to the final cost.

    5. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the new TVs generally don't include the glasses. I think mine cost $15 from Amazon.

      And most of those TVs already advertised 120Hz (or more) screens as a selling point.

      Not sure why it would need a high frame rate, though, when the movie is only 24fps? Can they not run the screen at a lower frame rate than 60Hz?

    6. Re:grounds for optimism by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Look around - how many kids have a phone and no watch? They've never gotten into the habit of wearing a watch - when they want to know the time, they pull out their phone (and you don't even have to unlock it to tell the time). As for reminding them to check their phone, most of these kids check them compulsively anyway every time thet ding.

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    7. Re:grounds for optimism by balbeir · · Score: 1

      The next big thing that these kids will invent will be a chain to prevent them from losing their phone. Something like this : http://www.dalvey.com/media/ca...

    8. Re: grounds for optimism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was last fall, and you probably went to a store. Stores still like 3D, because they figure they can sell you extra stuff relating to the 3D feature, like extra glasses, or some 3D movies if it's your first 3D set. They also tend to sell slightly older stuff. Go to Amazon, search for 4k TVs, 50-70 inch, that eliminates old tech still in the pipeline; you'll see that less than a quarter of them have 3D. The mid-range models you looked at are older tech, perhaps still being refreshed and manufactured. But the majority of genuinely new designs don't have 3D.

    9. Re: grounds for optimism by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Nearly all TVs run at 120 Hz now and call it 240 Hz (or 480 or even 960). 3D is supported on nearly all major TVs, even if it's not advertised in a big callout on the box. The trick is no one cares and no one bothers to buy glasses or seek out 3D content.

      Even if 3D is pointless, 120 Hz is great because 24 FPS content, 30 FPS content, and 60 FPS content all pa nicely. About the only thing that doesn't are the abortions that were the Hobbit movies in 48 FPS. I don't think there's been a release at that frame rate outside of theaters, however. 120 Hz also all but guarantees decent motion performance and response times (crucial for gaming), but it doesn't do a damned thing to guarantee low latency.

    10. Re: grounds for optimism by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Most TVs operate at a fixed refresh rate. It sucks because the hardware is typically physically able to run at a bunch of lower rates but everything's locked down.
      At least 120 Hz panels handle nearly all content cleanly. The only thing you'll get screwed on is PAL (25 fps) shit.

    11. Re: grounds for optimism by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      "Look at 3d TV for example; despite all the hype, people just didn't buy into it, and now you have to look petty hard for the 3d models."

      When we bought a new TV last fall, pretty much all the mid-range models we looked at came with 3D built-in. It just seems to be a tickbox feature now, rather than a selling point... and is pretty much zero cost for the manufacturer (a bit of software, and a Bluetooth chip if they don't already have one).

      What's the bluetooth for? Our 3D TV doesn't have bluetooth (I don't think so; never seen it as a menu option, but then again I wasn't really looking for it).

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  2. First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First post!

  3. U2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Release a special U2 version. And have the alarm be Bono saying something sanctimonious about poverty in Africa while showing the value of his hedge fund.

    I mean the U2 version of the iTouch was a hit, wasn't it?

    And I still keep getting their album with the gay couple on it on my iTunes. The last thing I want is to go from a virtuosos like Wynton Marsalis and Yo-Yo Ma and then hear U2 in the shuffle.

  4. Perhaps it's because. . . by UFNinja · · Score: 1

    Smartwatches are mostly useful for looking at notifications and deciding whether I need to act upon that information or if I can just make a mental note and swipe right. It saves me time picking up and/or unlocking my phone to see a notification. There's not really any compelling smartwatch apps that wouldn't be more useful as a fullscreen smartphone app.

    1. Re: Perhaps it's because. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As someone who has been wearing and using a smartwatch for well over a year, you're absolutely correct. That's exactly what I use it for all the time and it's what I love about it. Screw apps, I only use a dashboard for turning WiFi on and off and sometimes tethering.
      Also since it's a Pebble it lasts well over a week. No way I'd plug that thing in every second day or so.
      It also feels like it saves a bit of battery life since the display isn't turned on as much.

    2. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by Striek · · Score: 2

      The only smartwatch app I've ever really used (well, it's not really an app) is the vibrate functionality on them.

      Noisy environments such as datacentres, construction or forestry sites where you can't hear your phone ring are prime uses for the smartwatch vibrate. It means you no longer need to have you phone on your person to to catch incoming messages - important in areas where the phone is subject to physical damage in your pocket or to external forces such as when working in forestry. Hell, I've even damaged the belt clip just getting out of the car. Some belt clips tend to insulate you from the vibration, too. With the smartwatch vibration, you can keep your phone in a lunchbox, a backpack, a glovebox, or anywhere you like, and be notified of messages by a vibrating wristwatch instead, given sufficient bluetooth range. (And as an added benefit, in jurisdictions like mine where using handheld devices is illegal while driving, it looks like you're checking the time! but I digress...)

      Granted, it's the only use I've ever found for a smartwatch - aside from the aforementioned checking of incoming messages before deciding whether or not to act on them - but I have found it to be a "killer app", given specific conditions. That function alone makes a smartwatch worthwhile for me. Unfortunately, it could be accomplished with a $20 bluetooth gizmo but I need to buy a $300 watch for it.

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    3. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      where you can't hear your phone ring are prime uses for the smartwatch vibrate.

      My wife's fitbit does that. She doesn't use it for fitbitting, but it buzzes and tells her to fish her phone out of her bag.

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    4. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disagree.

      I use mine while driving for directions. A flick of my wrist wakes it up. Then I say "Okay Google" to activate voice commands, Then I say "How do I get to ________". Then it starts the Maps App on my phone (which can stay in my pocket). The voice directions come over bluetooth to my car's speakers, and a basic map shows on my watch display which is stupid-easy to glance at as my hand is already on the steering wheel. Each new direction is also preceded by a little buzz so I know it's coming.

      I also can say "Play Music" and music starts playing in my car without having to fuss with any manual controls.

    5. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches are mostly useful for looking at notifications and deciding whether I need to act upon that information or if I can just make a mental note and swipe right. It saves me time picking up and/or unlocking my phone to see a notification. There's not really any compelling smartwatch apps that wouldn't be more useful as a fullscreen smartphone app.

      I feel the same way. I've been using the same original Moto 360 and it does what I need it to just fine. The most complicated thing I might use it for is for control Spotify without picking up my phone or for showing me real-time directions while navigating. Other than that there doesn't seem to be much that can be improved on to justify an expensive upgrade.

    6. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where you can't hear your phone ring are prime uses for the smartwatch vibrate.

      My wife's fitbit does that. She doesn't use it for fitbitting,...

      I liked where that was going, but the ending disappointed.

    7. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      so you pay $200 or $300 or more to save the one second from picking up your phone. i was going to get a fitbit or an apple watch to run with but i'll be taking my phone with me anyway in case i need to call for help, so i don't see the point.

      and i'm not that OCD or senile yet to care about my exact heart rate when i run. i have a few routes and try to beat my last time, and i only need a phone for that

    8. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Oh, she definitely is using it for something else too, something the OP can't do for her.

    9. Re:Perhaps it's because. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, she definitely is using it for something else too, something the OP can't do for her.

      Like tell her she's fat and get away with it?

  5. Android Pocket Watch is good enough by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    You just need big pockets.

    Try rebranding the "smartwatch" into the "SmartBracelet". Then the entire band can be the display.

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    1. Re: Android Pocket Watch is good enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a concept that already existed and failed. The screen was e-ink. Eycatcher the name. Kickstarter the platform.

  6. Android Tablets dying too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The only major smart watch that works is Galaxy Gear with the twist dial, always on display, and 3-4 day battery life. The rest seem clueless. Who wants a watch that they can't just look at the read the time. Who wants a watch that would be dead after a long flight. Apple's watch I bet isn't selling the way it should, given the fanboy nature. I don't like the bubble interface and square face. They should copy ideas from Samsung and improve on them.

    *However*, have you noticed that only mid range and low end Android tablets are getting updates? The latest to get an update is the Galaxy Tab A 10 inch. It's not just Android Wear that's struggling, Android is too.

    Samsung new tab features: a resolution 1920x1200 same as a 2012 Asus Transformer tablet had back 4 years ago. A 1.6 ghz processor that is mid range and way below their current smartphones. A stylus and older Android 6.

    Meanwhile Samsung are releasing premium tablets, that run Windows not Android. The Galaxy Tab S being the latest. Top spec, higher resolution than their recent Android tablets, faster processor.

    So the premium end of the tablets market has given up on Android. Even Google don't do a premium Android tablet, their Android tablet is the *smaller*, lower spec of their two tablet devices. The top end one runs Chrome.

    If you want to look at the bigger picture, look for 12 inch plus premium spec Android tablets, and there are ..... zero.... launches this year and last.

    1. Re:Android Tablets dying too by tsqr · · Score: 1

      *However*, have you noticed that only mid range and low end Android tablets are getting updates? The latest to get an update is the Galaxy Tab A 10 inch. It's not just Android Wear that's struggling, Android is too.

      My 3 year old 8.4" Tab S surprised me a couple of days ago with an update to Marshmallow. I really didn't think that was ever going to happen.

    2. Re:Android Tablets dying too by I4ko · · Score: 1

      It is not struggling, it is reaching maturity, there is only so much new and shiny that you can do with a technology. Having said that, my iPad solely sits next to my kitchen counter and is used solely for myfitnesspal food tracking. My HP touchpad running android solely sits on a wireless charging station and is used for pictureframe in a room that I don't spend time in. My surface is lately solely used for Skype video calls. Two other android tablets (one nook hd, one Samsung) are turned off and solely used for paperweight.

    3. Re:Android Tablets dying too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple's watch I bet isn't selling the way it should, given the fanboy nature.

      The Apple Watch is definitely selling horribly. You know how Apple loves to tout their sales figures?

      They've never even released them for the Apple Watch. No one knows how many they've sold. I do know that they sold poorly enough that you can find them in the "overstock" resellers that specialize in getting rid of excess inventory for stores.

      Same thing is happening with the iPhone 7. How many have sold? Apple have already said that they won't say. They actually announced that they wouldn't be announcing sales figures before sales even opened. Gee, it's almost like removing the headphone jack made sales tank and Apple knew it was going to happen.

      Another good hint that the Apple Watch is selling poorly is that the Apple Watch 2 gets rid of a bunch of models that the Apple Watch had. You know the special, gold Apple Watch that was sold as a fashion accessory? That's gone. The Sports line, sold to compete with FitBit and the like? Also gone, replaced by a Nike-branded version. The fact that Apple is co-branding them is sign enough that they can't get them to sell on their own and are hoping that they can piggy-back off brands more people care about.

    4. Re:Android Tablets dying too by davester666 · · Score: 1

      "isn't selling like it should"? now there's a signpost you can never pass.

      especially when Apple went from 0 to the #2 watch seller in the world in 1.5 years.

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    5. Re:Android Tablets dying too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that new and shiny technology is running Windows! There ARE new tablets coming out at the premium end, its that they're running Windows not Android.

      Where's the attack on the high end from Android? Where's the Android on the desktop launch? Google seem to be rudderless under Pinchai, its like they meander into the next project. They don't even copy Apple's good ideas these days.

      We don't fingerpaint, we use brushes and pencils, and supporting a proper stylus is a good idea... where's Googles? Samsung have had the note for years, several other Android companies have their own, Google? Nowhere to be seen.

  7. Pebble by mu51c10rd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Meanwhile, Pebble looks to be doing just fine with their smartwatches. However, they use color e-ink (better battery life), are much cheaper, and don't need a new line of service activated. They connect to the internet via Bluetooth on your phone. Perhaps the other manufacturers should strip their watches down and focus on what consumers would want: a durable watch, with battery life past a day or two, and doesn't cost extra with phone service.

    1. Re:Pebble by caffiend2049 · · Score: 2

      "Well sure - but if it doesn't increase the monthly bill, what's the point in even making the things?"
      -Generic Executive

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    2. Re:Pebble by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Looks like you have no idea about Android Wear watches, but really really wanted to write something. They connect over Bluetooth as well, although some have WiFi so the user can still get notification even if the mobile phone is not in the proximity. And as for the price, the monochrome Pebble costs the same as a LG W100. Pebble Time Round has about the same price as LG W150 or the first generation Motorola Moto360 but both can do more than the Pebble watch.
      Still, the good old MOTOACTV is a better smartwatch than the modern ones.

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    3. Re:Pebble by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      I think Pebble got this right. I don't think of mine as a "smart watch". It is an auxiliary display for some apps on my phone, with some buttons to send some basic commands back to the apps. It does this very well, and that is all I need it to do. If you still have to carry a phone anyway, there is not much point in making the watch any smarter.

    4. Re: Pebble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had a Pebble for some years. It's not real pretty, but it does the basics well, if not much what Android Wear can do, and the battery life is great.

      But Pebbles *do not* use e-ink screens, and I wish people would stop spouting this. It's an ordinary transflective LCD, just like digital watches have had since the 70s.

      Annoyingly, the Pebble company keeps describing them with the highly-misleading term "e-paper", which means only "low power display". They never call it "e-Ink", which is the trademarked name of the completely different electro-phoretic display used by Kindles, yet invariably (and I'm sure intentionally) people get confused by the two.

    5. Re:Pebble by dublin · · Score: 1

      Of course, you can do what I do and wear one of the excellent Seiko 5 watches (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=seiko+5 ), generally regarded as the best watch value on the planet, and frequently making lists of best watches under $500, even though they're an order of magnitude cheaper than that! On top of that, it will still be a good, fully functional device many years from now, which is definitely not true of ANY smartwatch. (Let's see you try to get replacement batteries in 10 or 20 years, even on the off chance your iPhone 12 still supports it...)

      These things really are a marvel of modern engineering and manufacturing techniques: A $53 watch with simple, clean lines that has an excellent automatic (no batteries, no winding) day-date movement with sweep second hand, a crystal back that lets you see the works working, and a really nice NATO-style nylon strap with stitched leather trim. The one I had last year kept ridiculously good time (like a quartz watch - my current one is only very good), but it got torn off while sailing in Lake Travis. Yes, when Seiko says it's "water resistant" to 10m, they mean it - swimming, sailing, caught in a downpour - no matter. Seiko doesn't sell the 5 series here in the US, but you can buy them here through Amazon, and they'll even extend the warranty to the US for you. (No real risk because the things just don't break...)

      Sure, if I was made of money I might buy a Bremont and a JLC Reverso, but I'm hard on watches, so it's nice to know that even a total loss will only set me back the cost of a few drinks...

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  8. Watches are about style, not function by xtal · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Apple got this right, and it's showing.

    Very few products appeal to my wife in the technology sphere, and the Apple Watch was done of them.

    Android watches remind me of the 80's digital watches.

    Taking a time-out, ha ha, is probably a good idea.

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    1. Re:Watches are about style, not function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Really? Because Android Wear watches tend to look like actual watches people would wear, while the Apple Watch looks like a miniature iPhone prop someone decided to strap to their wrist for some reason.

      But you might be right - by making the Apple Watch distinctive, instead of functional, Apple has made it into a piece of jewelry people wear to show off that they're the type of asshole who owns an iPhone. Being ugly but identifying is probably more important to Apple than being stylish and functional.

    2. Re:Watches are about style, not function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This, pretty much: Apple sells fashion accessories, not tech products.

    3. Re:Watches are about style, not function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So really what you're saying it's about being able to show off.

      Na, wearable in general are over hyped pointless kiddie toys. No useful wearable has been invented yet. Combine function (lack there of), battery life and microscopic screen size, nope... i wouldnt waste the $$$.

    4. Re:Watches are about style, not function by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      No they didn't. Apple charges too much. That's why smartwatches aren't selling well

    5. Re:Watches are about style, not function by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Style is all about overpriced stuff people can't or won't buy because of the price tag. That's the whole pint of designer labels.

    6. Re:Watches are about style, not function by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Because Android Wear watches tend to look like actual watches people would wear

      You should probably tell that to consumers then, because they don't seem to be buying and wearing very many of them, hence this article.

      The OP was right, most consumers wanted a fashion accessory that could do some smart things.

    7. Re:Watches are about style, not function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Galaxy Gear Classic. Looks like a watch, and I have a classic sort of watch face on it. Most people don't know it's a smartwatch unless they see an alert go off on it.

    8. Re:Watches are about style, not function by dublin · · Score: 1

      To each his own, but I think the Apple Watch is butt-ugly, and one of the clumsiest of Ives' designs.

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  9. Not enough bang for the buck by wardrich86 · · Score: 2

    Smartwatches are awesome. I'd love to have one... but the cost just doesn't justify what you get. It falls into the same pit as the Apple products. Spend a lot, get a little. If they could manage to make a good watch for say $100 or so, I'd be all over it.

    1. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me it's about size more than price. Maybe once the new Na/Lion batteries come out next year they can reduce the size somewhat. I wish they would move away from stand alone watches and focus on a simple "display" approach that is more like a dumb terminal and rely on the smart phone for all processing.

    2. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'm in a similar situation. My limit is $200, but I want the battery of the bigger ones in the size of the smaller, and the stylings of the nicer ones.

      I'd pay $200 for a 2nd gen moto 360 of the smaller size if it had the battery.

      But they're both $300 and I'm not confident of the battery.

      Just adding that I'm less concerned about the price than you, but still too expensive.

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    3. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      I have too many, so I could sell you a lightly used LG W100 for, say, 50 euros, but the shipping cost is probably prohibitive.

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    4. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      The 2nd gen Moto 360's are like $400+ in Canada.

    5. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by lord_mike · · Score: 1

      If you're worried about the battery, buy a Pebble. The battery lasts a good week. Even more if you shut it off at night like I do. It's also significantly less expensive and is very open to developers.

    6. Re:Not enough bang for the buck by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'm skeptical that the e-ink will be satisfying on the interactivity with my cards.

      Also, I don't need a weak's battery, I need 20 hours.

      And last I looked, the pebble steel wasn't under $200 either.

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  10. Independent Smartwatches by jmhysong · · Score: 1

    I don't see the point of a smartwatch that requires you to carry your phone around all the time. If a smartwatch could operate independently then I think it would be much more useful. While I don't think a watch would need 4G service, the addition of free 3G, like Amazon has for the Kindle, would be a game changer.

    1. Re:Independent Smartwatches by doconnor · · Score: 1

      If you are such a Luddite that you don't have a smartphone on your person at all times, then a smartwatch probably isn't for you.

    2. Re:Independent Smartwatches by d0rp · · Score: 1

      There are actually some "smartwatches" out there that are in fact standalone phones, which makes much more sense to me than something that has to be paired to your existing phone, though they all appear to be of dubious quality. Here is one example: https://www.amazon.com/Eversho...

    3. Re:Independent Smartwatches by jmhysong · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm a Luddite because I see no point in buying a smartwatch so I can save the 5 seconds it would take to look at my phone instead of the watch.

    4. Re:Independent Smartwatches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would seriously recommend sprint training - I can get my phone out, unlocked and functioning at it in under 2 seconds!

      Okay, I admit it - I've been using performance enhancers.

      I agree with you btw.

    5. Re:Independent Smartwatches by lord_mike · · Score: 1

      Well,, they still function as a watch when not connected, so you aren't totally tethered if you are interested in what time it is.

  11. someone please tell unicef about gravataí by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    enfia a merda da empreza do teu pai no teu cú samanta filha da puta. não quero saber do teu esquema de pedofilia aqui em gravataí. pega essa merda de grupo rbs e enterra junto com a aquela merda da tua mãe.

  12. I want an Android Flava-Flav clock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh boooooyyyyyeeeeeee!

  13. They lack a killer feature by danbob999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still don't get why I should want one. I still have to carry my phone anyways. And it can show me the time just fine, so I don't even need a watch.

    1. Re:They lack a killer feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a Fitbit earlier this year to make sure I wasn't going to kill myself playing aggressive VR games, and it works as a 'smart watch' too. I couldn't see any reason to want one as a smart watch, but health monitoring made buying one worthwhile. And we're only going to get more and more of that in the future.

      What annoys me about it is having to recharge it every week, rather than replace the battery every year. That alone is going to put off many people who still use watches.

    2. Re:They lack a killer feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost - The paradigm needs to shift. It's not that you have to carry something else, it's that the something else is the critical part that you still need to worry about. What is needed is for the storage, processing, networking and radio communications to happen on the wrist with a minimal interface; and secure bluetooth-like connections to external interfaces such as touchpads, keyboard and monitors, PC applications, microprojectors with gesture recognition, smart TVs, etc. For daily use you might carry a touchpad similar in size to a phone, but for lightweight travelling you could leave that at home and rely on a friend's interface device, or a mall booth.

      The devil of the detail is making the dumb interfaces secure with per-device security trust options.

    3. Re:They lack a killer feature by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Notifications and fitness tracking. If you are the kind of person who doesn't like their notification sound going off at high volume* then they are a good alternative. If someone can invent a good heart rate monitor with good battery life that would be nice too, for people managing illness and weight as well as fitness buffs.

      * Why can't they make it so that the notification/ring sound volume is proportional to ambient noise?

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    4. Re:They lack a killer feature by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      There is already the vibrating and the silent mode (with LED notification). I don't need a second device. Fitness tracking, maybe. But they already sell heart rate monitor watches without Android and they run just fine, with longer battery.

  14. First Post Haiku by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    First post!

    Time twixt see and post
    Is longer than others clicks
    You came in third place

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  15. LG Urbane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really like my LG Urbane. The one feature I wish it had that it doesn't is NFC. Their new version has it, but it isn't running Android Wear.

    Now, I admit, I probably wouldn't have bought one for myself. However, I was gifted one and I quite enjoy it. I suppose free is a great price-point for things like this. Maybe if they could even get into the $100 range, they'd be a bit more popular.

    1. Re:LG Urbane by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      The Urbanes do look great. And they're too expensive. $100 is the sweetspot for a smartwatch and its limited featureset.

    2. Re:LG Urbane by I4ko · · Score: 1

      Are you bonkers? Why does it need NFC. I refuse to buy newer models of things I like because they have NFC. Which in practice works for definitions of near meaning 10m.

    3. Re:LG Urbane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that I can tap my watch to the payment terminal to buy my burrito at lunch instead of taking out my phone.

  16. Smartwatches by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For whatever it's worth (exactly one anecdote), I really like my smartwatch (it's a Gear Live, square face, fairly early vintage.) Picture here.

    It puts text, email, slack and other notifications right where I can see them without having to reach for anything, turn it on, etc. That alone is worth a lot, as most things can be ignored until later, but for the ones I want to know about and respond to immediately, I can. Timers are very useful, I use them for many things from timing aquarium water top-offs to cooking and reminding me to let the dog back in. The watch faces are very clever and pretty, and I like them a lot, even though I answer to no one and very rarely care what time it is. The tracking of my heart rate and steps is nice too, as I need to pay attention to my health. Doesn't hurt to be able to ask it questions, either. All of this is either nearly or completely hands-free. For instance, rotate wrist so the watch is up, it wakes up. Then say: "Ok google, set a timer for five minutes." Easy. Awesome. Super-useful.

    This stuff is quite practical (even the time... most people need to know, even if I don't.)

    Just like any gadget, it's not for everyone, I'm sure. But I really don't think you can put a smartwatch in the general category of "doesn't make sense." Instead, put anyone who says that in either the "doesn't make sense for me" category, or in the "I don't understand smartwatches" category, for which you can, if you like, lay the responsibility for at the watch manufacturer's feet -- specifically, marketing. Most smartwatch ads I've seen haven't been very... smart.

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    1. Re: Smartwatches by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Reason I bought a smartwatch initially was for the GPS and compass features for outdoorsy stuff, and I never wore it for anything else. But after a while I noticed how useful it was when apps started showing different notifications. Like for example, it shows which direction I need to turn next while using google maps navigation, which is useful in case I missed what the voice said, and I can skip crappy gangsta rap songs easily while using play music without having to take my eyes off the road.

    2. Re: Smartwatches by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      I didn't think about / know about using it to control music playback. There are lots of songs I'd just as soon skip. Super. Thanks. :)

      Gangsta rap:

      There are two kinds of music I absolutely despise: rap, and country. Also country-rap. Which some have called c-rap, and with which appellation I wholeheartedly agree.

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    3. Re:Smartwatches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree. There's definitely enough useful stuff they can do. I think it's a bit more complicated than they're making it sound though, and they're blaming one general, and mostly invalid, complaint.

      There's no way I'd wear a multi-hundred dollar smartwatch (or activity tracker) that wasn't durable and waterproof. That reduces the field of options quite a bit.

      As opposed to phones, these watches don't come for "free" along with my cellphone plan. Most people aren't shelling out $600 cash for their phones. They get a huge discount when signing their contract, and/or it includes some monthly thing so they get the latest one every year, or something like that. Relatively few people buy their phone outright. The price of a smartwatch, which is basically just an accessory for your phone, seems prohibitively expensive - it's more than they shelled out for their phone.

      If one is shelling out that much to own something, they're going to want it to keep working. It's questionable if any of them will be maintained for very long:
      * iWatch - doesn't work with android, so you're buying into that ecosystem.
      * android wear - vice-versa, and Google drops things left and right, which is a bit scary.
      * Tizen(samsung) - I think they're the only ones making those. That's quite a gamble.
      * Pebble - I think this idea is the best, but they're facing an uphill battle on all fronts. Slap an eink display on any of those others and, though it still won't be a pebble, it'd steal enough of their market to seriously hurt pebble.
      * almost-smart-watches (higher end fitness trackers) - these can do much of what the others do, but not quite enough. Ex. why can't the samsung gear fit 2 display a map WHILE doing things - it can only display it after you finish. These are treated as second class citizens to full blown smartwatches - they don't get the integration that's needed.
      * dumb BT controller watchers - these can be found for super cheap, and it shows. They're just too crappy and buggy to deal with.

      I think we'll see a resurgence down the road. For now, as people gradually buy them, they're unlikely to replace them very quickly.

    4. Re: Smartwatches by L4m3rthanyou · · Score: 1

      C-Rap... very nice.

      I also prefer to spell "Country Music" without the "o". :)

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    5. Re: Smartwatches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering one of the leading c-rap acts just finished a "dig your roots" tour... I think they know they're just trolling. Actually most country is along those lines, which explains why the fans are so into Donald Trump.

    6. Re: Smartwatches by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I thought c-rap was short for Christian rap...

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    7. Re: Smartwatches by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      No, that would never fly. That is taking the Christ out of Christian...

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    8. Re: Smartwatches by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Some rap is good, like MC Hammer and Coolio. What I can't stand is any music that has no rhythm.

      Modern rap is mostly some derp taking about how he's "pimpin the hoes" or holding up a 7-11.

      Modern r&b and modern hip-hop basically sound like that same shit these days as well, it's as if all three genres have become the same. If I wanted to listen to people with no rhythm talk about how they want to fuck the world, I'd watch C-SPAN.

      As for country, pretty much the only singer I listen to is Johnny Cash.

    9. Re:Smartwatches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that Android Wear does work with iPhone. Only the iWatch is locked to a specific ecosystem. Even the Tizen doesn't require a Samsung phone.

    10. Re: Smartwatches by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Actually, I love the heavy bass and drums behind a lot of rap music. If they would just shut the heck up, I'd enjoy most of it thoroughly.

      But... no. Sigh.

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  17. Fun, not useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They aren't useful, but are fun and if you like a watch, you might like wearing a smartwatch.

  18. Solution looking for a problem by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Smartwatches still have yet to make a significant impression on consumers as a must-have device," said Ramon Llamas, an analyst at IDC.

    They mostly are a solution looking for a problem. Smartwatches are useful in some very particular circumstances, mostly where it is inconvenient or ill-advised to carry a smartphone. Those circumstances are not widely applicable in most people's every day lives and therefore there is limited market need for smartwatches. Relatively few people of my generation and those younger wear a watch routinely. People want to wear fewer devices, not more so at best it tends to replace a watch for those who were already prone to carrying one. For the rest of us it actually ADDS a device to carry when the trend it actually to carry less. My smartphone replaced my point-and-shoot camera, my PDA, my calendar, my MP3 player, my laptop in some circumstances and oh yeah it makes calls. Plus it can do everything a smartwatch can do except be small.

    1. Re:Solution looking for a problem by perpenso · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches also have heart rate sensors. So that is probably the first area to explore where they go beyond a smartphone. The second area may be when you are separated from your phone.

      Haptic feedback is another partial differentiator, it can tap you on the wrist to get your attention. Partial because a vibrating phone in your pocket is also haptic. But if the phone is say mounted on the dash for turn-by-turn directions then that watch haptic feedback is nice, you don't have to turn down the stereo to avoid missing a voice alert.

      Another place where I found a smartwatch useful is as a controller for smartphone based presentations. I can plug the smartphone into the multimedia system at the podium and be free to walk around a little and control things from the watch.

    2. Re:Solution looking for a problem by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      They mostly are a solution looking for a problem. Smartwatches are useful in some very particular circumstances, mostly where it is inconvenient or ill-advised to carry a smartphone.

      Wait, what? If it's inconvenient, I get that. But ill-advised? If it's ill-advised to carry a cellphone, it's just as ill-advised to wear a smartwatch. If it's a clearance issue, it has all the same issues. If it's a theft issue, it's on display on your wrist and it's actually more of an issue.

      My smartphone replaced my point-and-shoot camera, my PDA, my calendar, my MP3 player, my laptop in some circumstances and oh yeah it makes calls. Plus it can do everything a smartwatch can do except be small.

      That is the real problem. If you already have a smartphone, the only thing it can't do that a smartwatch does is signal to other people that you have too much money so you waste it.

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    3. Re:Solution looking for a problem by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches are useful in some very particular circumstances, mostly where it is inconvenient or ill-advised to carry a smartphone

      No, smartwatches are not where it is ill-advised to carry a smartphone.

      They're because the user bought the WRONG smartphone for their lifestyle. As in, they got awed by the massive 8" screen that they went out and bought it, then realized that it was completely useless to them - they can't stuff it in their pocket in easy reach, so it goes in their bag. THey can't carry it in one hand and must use both hands to do anything, etc.

      And instead of returning it and buying something more reasonable (wah wah I must have my 8" screen!) they buy a smartwatch instead which lets them do everything they bought their phone to do. Without having to deal with digging it out of their bag and manhandling it.

      In Asia, its worse - I've seen people who can't even hold their giant smartphones with both hands - it's just too big. They could buy a smaller one, but that 8" screen is their life, and going to a 6" screen means such a down grade.

    4. Re:Solution looking for a problem by ickpoo · · Score: 1

      I thought pretty much the same: smart watch is stupid, doesn't offer anything I don't already have, ... Then I received an Android Wear watch for my birthday, I really like it, I really like that notifications appears on my wrist and that my phone doesn't do anything at all, and, I really like have the time right there on my wrist. I'll definitely replace my current Android Wear watch with another when this one either fails, or the state of the art has moved far enough ahead that it would be worth it. I'm hoping that there will be bunches of sub $100 Wear watches on the market in a few years, doesn't appear to be happening yet, but I think it will.

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    5. Re:Solution looking for a problem by tsqr · · Score: 1

      wah wah I must have my 8" screen!

      Somebody makes a phone with an 8" screen? Can you cite the make/model? According to this, the largest smartphone on the planet has a 7" screen, but then the list is over a year old.

  19. Garmin's about all I need by n9uxu8 · · Score: 1

    So, I have a Garmin Vivoactive gps watch which I use for tracking running and biking. Aside from sports functions, it's waterproof, I get about 2 weeks from a charge and fits my wrist perfectly. More importantly, it does the only two things I need from a smartwatch: 1) It allows me to put my phone on silent and vibrates and displays any notifications coming in. A silent phone is a golden phone, and I don't have to pull out my phone in a meeting if a text or call comes in. A quick glance at the wrist is all I need. 2) It lets me select which notifications I receive on my watch as I don't need notifications every time @whomever posts a picture on twitter or I get an email in my gmail box. I get only those notifications I want in a timely manner. Other than that, I can't think of anything for which I'd use a smart watch (though my desires do not necessarily line up with someone else's), so I certainly have no need to buy a new one each and every year.

  20. Integrate, Integrate, Integrate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung is missing a huge amount of potential by not using the sensors in a smartwatch as a controller/input device for use with their GearVR.

    It could be a revision of the Nintendo Power Glove, with far more possibility. Anybody remember Hiro Protagonist's "House" in Snow Crash?

  21. Fitbit partnership needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fitbit still sells a ton of units. If an Android wear maker partnered with Fitbit to make a fitbit app-compatible watch with heart rate info, they'd sell very well. Fitbit has big market recognition and have 25% of the wearable market.

    I imaging Fitbit has features they'd like to add that could be done through Wear.

  22. Found two other useful things ... by perpenso · · Score: 2

    Smartwatches are mostly useful for looking at notifications and deciding whether I need to act upon that information or if I can just make a mental note and swipe right. It saves me time picking up and/or unlocking my phone to see a notification. There's not really any compelling smartwatch apps that wouldn't be more useful as a fullscreen smartphone app.

    The watch can control a presentation being played from your smartphone. This allows you to travel real light.

    The tap on the wrist during turn-by-turn directions is nice. You don't have to turn down the stereo for fear of not hearing a reminder on the phone.

    When thinking about what could be compelling I'd start with what is unique for the watch. The first thing that comes to mind is that the watch has a heart rate sensor, so something utilizing that would go beyond "I don't have to reach for the phone". Secondarily when might a person have the watch but not the phone.

  23. Some watches are about function by perpenso · · Score: 2

    Watches are about style, not function

    As a scuba diver and a private pilot I disagree. :-)

    1. Re:Some watches are about function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watches are about style, not function

      As a scuba diver and a private pilot I disagree. :-)

      But wouldn't you prefer that your diving watch be a vastly more complex battery hogging mini-computer that you need both hands to operate? No? What's wrong with you?

    2. Re:Some watches are about function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watches are about style, not function

      As a scuba diver and a private pilot I disagree. :-)

      But wouldn't you prefer that your diving watch be a vastly more complex battery hogging mini-computer that you need both hands to operate? No? What's wrong with you?

      You are describing the dive computer, the $90 analog watch is the backup to that. :-)

  24. Correction by ilsaloving · · Score: 0

    Smartwatches still have yet to make a significant impression on consumers as a must-have device,"

    Correction:

    Smartwatches have yet to be anything more than grossly overpriced novelties with stupidly poor battery life.

    I'm actually interested in the Pebble, cause you can get up to 10 days of use out of it per charge, which is 9 days more than pretty much everything out there, short of actual normal watches.

    1. Re:Correction by lord_mike · · Score: 1

      Pebble is very nice... very useful, very open, very extendable, and much cheaper as well!

    2. Re:Correction by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

      LOL I got modded flamebait.

      Someone either hates their Pebble, or disagrees that watches should have more than a day of battery life. :P

  25. Ill-advised by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Wait, what? If it's inconvenient, I get that. But ill-advised? If it's ill-advised to carry a cellphone, it's just as ill-advised to wear a smartwatch

    You can swim with a lot of smartwatches. Not so much of a good idea with smartphones - even IPXX rated ones. There also are places where smartphones are prohibited for security reasons or where they might prove socially problematic but where smartwatches would be acceptable.

    If it's a theft issue, it's on display on your wrist and it's actually more of an issue.

    A smartwatch is generally a LOT less conspicuous than most people's smartphones. Less valuable too.

    1. Re:Ill-advised by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      A smartwatch is generally a LOT less conspicuous than most people's smartphones.

      Most people's smartphones are in their pocket when they're not using them, not waving around at the end of their arm. That makes it conspicuous at all times, when the phone isn't.

      Less valuable too.

      However, thieves aren't necessarily stupid; they can know that most smartwatches are communicating with a phone in someone's pocket, implying a potential two-fer. Also, a stolen phone may be IMEI-disabled after theft, decreasing its value. This is less of a concern with smartwatches.

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    2. Re:Ill-advised by tsqr · · Score: 1

      There also are places where smartphones are prohibited for security reasons or where they might prove socially problematic but where smartwatches would be acceptable.

      Any place a smartphone is a security issue, a smartwatch is probably a security issue as well, unless you're referring to a generic non-DoD "no cameras allowed" policy and the watch doesn't have a camera. It's the ability to communicate wirelessly that's the problem, not just the camera. The DoD made my company remove a clock from one of our SCIFs because it used WiFi to get time sync.

  26. Corner cases by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Smartwatches also have heart rate sensors.

    There are a few corner cases where smartwatches are advantageous but these have been insufficiently explored to date. Smartwatches have two primary uses. 1) a highly portable data-logging sensor suite and 2) a compact display for compact messages. These are useful things but for most use cases a smartphone can serve the same purpose AND have a lot more capabilities besides. The corner cases where a smartwatch makes a big different don't apply to most people most of the time and so it should surprise no one that they haven't been taking over the world sales-wise.

    Haptic feedback is another partial differentiator, it can tap you on the wrist to get your attention.

    As you say smartphones can do this too. The fact that there are some corner cases doesn't generally make a good case to buy a smartwatch unless those corner cases are super important. I would argue that your example is not a particularly big problem.

    1. Re:Corner cases by perpenso · · Score: 1

      I am not claiming any compelling uses, merely useful ones. I am however arguing that compelling cases are likely to come out of areas where the watch has sensors a phone does not (heart rate), or when a phone is not immediately accessible (remote control of phone, various sporting activities, etc).

      Today the only reason I feel justified in owning a smartwatch is that I am a developer.

  27. How about smart (sun)glasses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'd be somewhat handy to project text messages in front of someone, probably when they are out jogging or something and otherwise don't want to stop to check their phone. (Wouldn't bother with video on the device since all those wearable TV headsets sucked.)

  28. Apple has won. by grub · · Score: 0

    Yet another market Apple has won. Cheaper watches will sell but Apple will get the lion's share of the profits, just like they do in the phone market.

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  29. Lower the price point by Codeyman · · Score: 1

    I use moto360 religiously. Some places where it shines:
    - You can ignore notifications and phone calls much faster. Don't have to shuffle with your phone.
    - Weather/pedometer information are great.
    - More sticky calendar reminders.

    Some things that are lacking:
    - Dedicated gps. I know that the new apple watch has it, but I'm not sure how good the battery life is. I use a Garmin watch for running, but the battery sucks for longer runs. Not sure if Apple has nailed it.
    - Pricepoint: Make these watches sub $150 and it'll sell like hot cakes (I got the 1st generation for that that amount when the 2nd generation came out).

    People don't want another device to get distracted with, the proponents of the watch use it to avoid distraction. Make it cheaper, with gps, and waterproof and people will get it.. no matter the brand or the OS.

  30. fitness tracker alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife and I both have Garmin fitness trackers which do many of the things smartwatches do at a lower price. Depending upon model:
    - watch functions - date, time, alarm? check
    - accelerometer features - step counts, sleep tracking? check
    - smartphone notifications - phone, SMS, emails? check
    - bluetooth music player control? check
    - optical heart rate monitor? check
    - built-in GPS? check
    - multi-day battery life? check

  31. Title by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    The title does not appear to be English. The words are all English words, but the title makes no sense at all.

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  32. Utterly wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    There are a few corner cases where smartwatches are advantageous but these have been insufficiently explored to date.

    FitBit disagrees with you.

    You may think of a smartwatch as something that has to have a display with time, but why?

    The real name should be something more along the line of "TechBracelet" and humanity has explored them and already find them very useful.

    Why do you doubt that over time the fields in which they have already found to be generally useful, will expand further...

    Can't believe I am reading a response like that on Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Utterly wrong by dublin · · Score: 1

      Not to slam fitness wearables, but the market research shows that 2/3 of them wind up living in a drawer within six months. They're just not all that compelling for most people (yet?)...

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  33. Someone gave my a Galaxy S2 Smartwatch by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    Someone gave my a Galaxy S2 Smartwatch. It was neat for a few days. Once the novelty wore off, it seemed like nothing more than a solution looking for problem. I don't think smartwatches any sort of critical mass appeal. They are really nothing more than an overpriced status symbol. Smartwatches will be remembered as a failed innovation after something new and actually useful comes along.

    Oh, my S2 ended up on Craigslist.

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  34. I love my Motorola 360 v2 by Ingenium13 · · Score: 1

    I love my second gen Motorola 360. Having used it daily for a year, I don't think I could go back to not having one. It's just so convenient to have it buzz on your wrist when you have a notification, and to be able to glance down at it and see what it is. Honestly that's mostly what I use it for. I don't use any apps on it or anything, it's really just for notifications. The heart rate monitoring is neat, but I rarely look at the data in Google Fit.

    It's also stylish (I have the black one with black metal band, https://smile.amazon.com/Motor...), I've had many people comment on it that they really like it. Or sometimes people ask "Is that an Apple watch?" knowing that it isn't, but more curious what it is since it doesn't look like a traditional smartwatch.

    However, because it serves its purpose well, and is still in style, I can understand why they didn't release new ones this year. There's just no reason to upgrade yet. It still performs fast, I get 24 hours on a single charge (with the screen set to be always on, I can double this if I turn off the screen), and it has all the features I need.

    1. Re:I love my Motorola 360 v2 by dublin · · Score: 1

      Let me know when the batteries last a week or a month and I'll think about being mildly interested... (Another reason we need full color e-ink!)

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  35. Just a bit lame by Stonefish · · Score: 1

    Smart watches are a bit lame. People who wear them are a bit lame as well and generally fit into the
    1 I'm a fanboy/girl
    2 I'm trying to look smart
    3 I'm trying to look like a newage technical person
    4 All of the above.
    Whereas something like Google glasses might actually be useful.

  36. Needing the dofull by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

    Three of the top Android Wear smartwatches maker

    Garbage.

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