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Vladimir Putin Is Replacing Microsoft Programs With Domestic Software (bloomberg.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: Moscow city will replace Microsoft Corp. programs with domestic software on thousands of computers in answer to President Vladimir Putin's call for Russia's authorities to reduce dependence on foreign technology amid tensions with the U.S. and Europe. The city will initially replace Microsoft's Exchange Server and Outlook on 6,000 computers with an e-mail system installed by state-run carrier Rostelecom PJSC, Artem Yermolaev, head of information technology for Moscow, told reporters Tuesday. Moscow may expand deployment of the new software, developed by Russia's New Cloud Technologies, to as many as 600,000 computers and servers, and may also consider replacing Windows and Office, Yermolaev said. Putin is urging state entities and local companies to go domestic amid concerns over security and reliability after U.S. firms shut down paid services in Crimea following Russia's 2014 annexation. The plan poses a challenge to the likes of Microsoft, SAP SE and Oracle Corp. in the country's $3 billion software market. Adding to pressure, Putin's internet czar German Klimenko wants to raise taxes on U.S. technology companies to help Russian competitors such as Yandex NV and Mail.ru Group Ltd.
can unintentionally do the right things: kick Microsoft's, SAP's et al.'s ass.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
...domestic software replaces YOU, mr. Nadella ?!?
They're going to lose the revenue from both of the Office licenses used by the Russian government...
Once the average Russian gets tired of their homegrown software crapping out on them they'll be begging for their Windows 98 workstations back.
Let it be called KremLinux and all is forgiven!
The only surprise here is that Moscow was using Microsoft software at all. That sounds insane.
All in one, just great!
Now he is accused in uninstalling windows and installing Linux?
Let me foresee what will happen... Putin will replace Microsoft programs with ripped off open-source software with minor UI and major back-doors updates;
Then, with great patriotic pride, will pronounce the motherland's major step towards cleansing itself from western spying and corruption.
themselves,
Would you feel comfortable if the White House, Wallstreet, DOD, DOJ, Police, Universities and Congress ran a complete Chinese software stack? Chinese routers, OS, Firewalls, Office, Mail, antivirus, etc etc.?
Why are other peoples sig's always more witty ???
Microsoft probably works with every government they sell their software into as far as spying on their citizens etc. (it only makes business sense since these guys control market access and Microsoft has never been a company to quibble over morals) - so I'm sure Microsoft and Mr. Putin's Russia were great partners up till now.
Now Putin may be wary that Microsoft gives preferential treatment to the NSA (since we know they worked closely with them before thanks to Snowden) etc. or he may just be doing this for domestic consumption (he appears to do alot of this) since their economy is in a tailspin.
This is called investing in your country and people. America, its government, and its corporations should take note.
It makes perfect sense to remove the same systems you target in other countries from your own server farms and run proprietary systems that are less widely known and understood.
I am not interested in articles about life extension advancements.
I mean, really.
What if they ran on a set of hardware manufactured in China? That would be even worse!
All countries should do this. Use open standards to exchange information with other countries/businesses and develop their own software. Having local operating systems/programs helps expand local computing knowledge and lessens the likelihood of data theft via back doors etc.
As an added benefit people would be forced to start exchanging data in open formats or their partners/customers simply won't be able to read the data.
I's a healthy idea.
Hello, my name is Vladimir Putin. You may have seen my face, usually on the evening news, but not to worry; most of what you hear is true. Especially from that Snowden. I was shocked when I found out that your government does a lot of --how you say it, "dirty work" or "dirty laundry"? -- without asking for any of our help in these matters; your government firmly believes they are experts in these matters. Personally I have this to say: In Soviet Russia, Snowden is welcome to stay and ski. And here in Soviet Russia we tell Clippy to take a fucking hike, back to Redmond on that Microsoft horse it rode in on. Would you believe I asked to be their spokesman? Can you hear me now?
WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
I wonder where the servers will be housed?
All of those links are talking about different things, they're not five updates on the same story. So let's look at them in chronological order:
First link (2007): Announcement of Linux to be installed in every Russian school.
Second link (Jan 2009): Russian gov't working on an official OS for the whole country.
Fifth link (May 2009): The proposal for the national OS is temporarily shelved due to lack of support from the legislative branch.
Fourth link (Nov 2009): A follow-up to the first link, where the plan to deploy Linux in every Russian school faces some difficulties. This article is terribly vague and there's no follow-up to this one, so it's hard to say just how bad it was; it could've gotten right back on track next year for all I know.
Third link (2010): Putin declares Russian federal gov't will move to Linux. Doesn't seem to be related to any of the previous articles, except perhaps as an official clarification of the second.
Today's article of 2016: Moscow City in particular is beginning their migration to Linux.
Come on Putin, as long as we're rebuilding the Soviet Union, bring ternary computing back for a second go-round!
Just saying... reinventing the wheel is hard and bug-prone.
Russia has domestic router manufactures
So the end of the communism did not end the shortage of toilet paper?
For our non-Soviet friends: TP was in notorious short supply during the final days of the communist rule, which led to a lot of amusing anecdotes and jokes like:
Party Speaker: Comrades! In 5 years, everyone will have a car! ... the toilet paper?
Listener: And when are we going to get toilet paper?
PS: And comrades! In 10 years, everyone will have his own little house!
L: But
PS (outraged): KISS MY ASS! (literally: lick me in the asshole)
L: As usual. For themselves, the party has a solution, but for us...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Why not invade Redmond? It seems customary practice in Russia to take what you want by force.
I'm sure some jerk could argue that Alaska was once Russian. That Washington isn't hat far away from Alaska. That Russia never sold Washington to the US. And that therefore...
What a bunch of idiots. Regardless of the technology (I don't particularly like MS') you should know that coming up with an operating system, a desktop and usable applications is not an easy task. What's the Russian version be like? A ripoff of ?
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
For the slow of understanding: Irony Alert.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
The GPL allows you to create modified version of the program without releasing the source, so long as you don't distribute. If they keep all the software inside the Russian government, they haven't distributed. So I don't think this can be called a rip-off.
> In Russia, we wipe with TPP
I thought most other nations used WIPO*.
* World Imaginary Property Organization
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
It seems only fair to me. Since Linux is named after Linus, the Russian version should be named after Putin.
Not to use backdoored software.
Each process will have standard putin and standard putout. You can redirect the latter to /dev/siberia if you do not want to see it (ever again).
In the U.S., the software is the *ONLY* thing not made in China.
That's because it is made in India.
The Russian government should develop their own distro and should call Vladimix.
Joke aside, it makes sense that that Russian government would want to, and should, switch away from Microsoft Windows; ensuring one's data security is important.
Bearded Dragon
Damn, someone please do this. make LFS, link /dev/null to /dev/siberia in your build environment and s/null/siberia/g on every package. PLEASE. I know there are nutjobs among you good folk who are crazy enough to do this.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion. -- Spazmania (174582)
Except that Linus is the first name, while Putin is the family name. So it should be more like Vlad the Compiler.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
To be fair, in my 30 coding career, some of the top programmers I've ever studied and worked with were Russian. Their skill was just vastly, disproportionately better than any other peers and colleagues. No idea why. I'd actually look forward to Russian made software! Except for all the pesky back doors.
https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
Sounds a bit like my home stdio.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
....oh..wait...darn...they are in...Redmond, WA!
4wdloop
From a hardware perspective (which can easily hide/mask mal intent) almost all of the hardware we purchase is difficult to trust. Add in the firmware added by the NSA for things like phones etc, and the saying only trust a source if you see the code. The same applies for hardware. I wish we could have open source hardware in more abundance.
The Russians have some excellent programmers, but they both work on malware for the mafia.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
When the Russian OS crashes - it will be the Tsar Bomba.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Putin is a protectionist ...
Trump is a protectionist ...
Clinton is a protectionist ...
People! What is going on?? Why do we have to pay more for locally created products? That's a large part of why we overthrew the British government in the first place.
can unintentionally do the right things: kick Microsoft's, SAP's et al.'s ass.
While it's a good first step, Russia should do the world a service on the OS front by backing efforts to make ReactOS a full fledged OS. Have 2 flavors - a win64 version that's fully compatible w/ Windows 7, and a win32 version that's fully compatible w/ XP. Make sure that Classic Shell runs on it, or better still, make it a part of the shell so that people can pick whichever UI they wanna work in.
During Soviet times, I used to spell it as CZAR - Communist Zenithal Authority in the Republics
Uh, Russia hasn't been Communist now in some 25 years. Expansionist, maybe, but certainly not Communist
I could see Russia, but why would China, Iran or any Islamic entity want Trump to win? China would stand to lose big if they can no longer sell to the US, and if Trump follows through on his extreme vetting moves to stop hostile Muslims from coming into the US, ISIS and AQ have no reason to rejoice either. The last 3 have probably just said it hoping to apply reverse psychology on the US voters
> invade nations all over
The EU is not the USA. Although some EU governments are willing henchmen of the USA government when they invade other countries.
Actually I play more chess than checkers.
When has foreign policy paid any attention to the American voter?
Americans are very similar to the British, with the world being 'disconnected from us', so foreign policy has only attention in a presidential electorate when a lot of American lives are at stake, eg. the Vietnam War.
Well, Putin is a moron as well as Trump, and Putin is not afraid of Trump as a president because he knows well that Trump will have a lot less power towards 'pressing the red button' than any previous US president had.
Reagan was initially thought as not being a threat to Russia because many thought he was not really educated, and a moron. This turned out to be false because he had a lot more experience that he had learned from, and a political focus that few outsiders had expected, so he turned out to be a great US president of recent times.
Trump shows none of those things, except being held up by his father, moving along with mafia connections and in general not getting the financial results he could have had with the environment he was in.
Trump looks like a financial failure if you ask me, and soon he will also be a political failure.
And I am not even in the race to decide it, as I can't vote the 8.Nov.
I don't why I continue to reply to Cowards, and this will be my last.
What makes you think that Putin is not also a dork?
Have you seen any of the situations he is trying to create, showing that he is actually a superman?
Trump won the republican primaries because a lot of Americans are so fed up with politicians that has no connection with the lives of regular Americans, so they saw Trump as way to protest that. Trump has the most support by 'angry white low waged trash' that has little education and knowledge about the world surrounding them.
Using the Putin card doesn't favor Trump, because Putin is in himself a moron, and he is rather seeing a moron like the politically inexperienced Trump in office than the the experienced Clinton, that Putin knows he can't wind up his little finger.
Putin knows more about what Clinton is like, but he doesn't like it because he know she is strong. Compared to the little experienced Trump that may throw fits, but won't otherwise know what he is doing and therefore a much easier target than Clinton.
In all of this I am not saying that Clinton is the perfect president candidate, but compared to Trump, there is no comparison. Trump is not anything that he claims and he is everything the moron that the opposition claims, about a financial and political failure.
Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz would have been more regular and respectable Republican candidates that I could have supported, compared to Trump.
Trump is in himself a failure, in every way!
plays in to this. Very curious indeed.
"Moscowâ(TM)s government has already switched Cisco Systems Inc. technology for city surveillance cameras to local software"
Leaks also cover the CIA intercept of Cisco gear en route to places by NSA for spyware installation.
This seems to be about national security more than the money despite their claim.
What makes you think that Putin is not also a dork?
Have you seen any of the situations he is trying to create, showing that he is actually a superman?
Did you miss how he rather masterfully seized Crimea with very little bloodshed, while the western powers were unable or unwilling to do anything about it? He's not a superman, but he's no idiot either.
Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz would have been more regular and respectable Republican candidates that I could have supported, compared to Trump.
Ted Cruz is a religious loon whose views are even more right-wing and extreme than Trump's. Even other Republicans in Congress hated him with a passion. Jeb was about as establishment as you can get, and rode on his brother's legacy which only hurt him. But primaries these days tend to choose polarizing figures it seems, so someone "safe" and rather middle-of-the-road like Jeb had no chance.
To the morons going on about chess vs checkers: Being a competitive chess player does not indicate increased ability in areas other than playing chess. If you think you are smarter than average it isn't due to your chess playing prowess, it is due to other factors/advantages in our genetics or more-likely upbringing.
Only I can judge you.
If you think you are smarter than average it isn't due to your chess playing prowess, it is due to other factors/advantages in our genetics or more-likely upbringing.
An upbringing playing Chess?
"Well, Putin is a moron as well as Trump..."
Putin is not a moron.
The thing is typically if you are brought up playing chess you are surrounded by a family that does things that families (or a parent) that plays chess do. Like eat well, read to/with their kids, converse on various current topics, discuss history, etc. So the chess happens to be one of many things but as we like to say around here "correlation does not imply causation". In this case, playing chess isn't the reason people are more able at intellectual pursuits, it just happens to be one of many things they have been breast fed since young. In cases where youth chess clubs are established in "the hood", the kids can and do excel at chess but that doesn't translate necessarily into broad academic achievement, other than the effect that it can have in their belief in their own ability to achieve.
Only I can judge you.
The US started doing that years ago. Tables, ipad, phones, in fact almost nothing runs windows in the US anymore. Just some desktops. Even they are moving to the cloud. Won't need microsoft windows much longer.