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Cable TV Companies Could Lose Nearly $1 Billion in the Next Year From People Ditching Their Subscriptions (businessinsider.com)

Nathan McAlone, writing for BusinessInsider: Cable TV companies could lose nearly $1 billion to people cutting the cord over the next year, according to a new study by management consulting firm cg42. The firm estimates that 800,000 cable customers will ditch their subscriptions in the next 12 months. Cg42 expects each customer to be an average loss of $1,248 annually, and losses to approach $1 billion over the year. Cg42 also found that the average cord-cutter saves $104 per month by canceling. Some in the industry have argued that cutting the cord doesn't actually save you money if you subscribe to a bunch of streaming services like Netflix, HBO, and so on. But that point of view neglects the reality that many cable subscribers pay for those streaming services already.

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  1. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by Snufu · · Score: 2

    Or perhaps you use landline internet, the other monopoly?

    1. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by drpimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your assumption is many have switched to a new corporate overload but most may have just cut their bill substantially by dropping the TV out of their package. The real question is ... when are they just going to up the price of internet and include it all for that same bloated price and we are back to square one.

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    2. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yip, Same boss because once things start shifting the Cable TV companies will acquire Netflix/Hulu/youname it.

      I'm surprised Comcast hasnt gone after Netflix already.

      Either way, a bit of coax connected to your house is far more valuable than the twisted pair, or even fiber - DOCSIS 3.1 = 1gbps, that pretty much just smoked anyone's business model to deploy fibre to the home. Since they own the cable that seemingly has endless bandwidth potential, it doesnt matter what is going over it, so long as there is a subscriber on the end end of it coughing up $50+ a month for it.

    3. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by surfdaddy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Problem is that the way many companies price things, you don't save that much by cutting the TV. I have TWC and it's only like $20 cheaper/month if I cut TV and keep high speed internet. What we really need is a lot more competition, but the last mile problem is monopolized. I expect sooner or later somebody (Google, others) will find a way to solve that, as there is way too much money to be made by disrupting that last mile. It might end up being wireless last mile with other frequencies, mesh networks, etc. Or low orbit satellites.

    4. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by drpimp · · Score: 2

      Interesting. I just cut mine (5 boxes + movie channels) and I cut my bill by $120. Calculating the offset of other content providers I am at a net gain of about $80 so it's a win for my situation.

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    5. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Problem is that the way many companies price things, you don't save that much by cutting the TV. I have TWC and it's only like $20 cheaper/month if I cut TV and keep high speed internet. What we really need is a lot more competition, but the last mile problem is monopolized. I expect sooner or later somebody (Google, others) will find a way to solve that, as there is way too much money to be made by disrupting that last mile. It might end up being wireless last mile with other frequencies, mesh networks, etc. Or low orbit satellites.

      Interesting, I'm cutting the cord, but I'm not counting my internet into the equation.

      I have a business internet connection at home, I need it for work, so I'd have it regardless of any other need.

      I have a business connection from Cox Cable for $69/mo....it is an old one that is grandfathered in. But nothing is bundled with it.

      But I use AT&T Uverse, U200 package for TV and with it in 2x rooms, it was about $113/mo.

      I've set up an OTA antenna that pulls in all my local channels. I hooked that into a Tivo Roamio OTA box for DVR, and I also have a couple of Tivo Minis for the office and bedroom TVs...and that streams the live and DVR'ed stuff to all rooms I need.

      For what I call my "cable channels" that I would miss, like news (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc) and other entertainment like TCM, FX, TBS...all the ESPN's...I subscribed to Playstation VUE streaming, which runs on the Amazon FireTV (new version with better hardware) and have a box for that on each TV. The Playstation VUE system has a DVR like functionality built into it too, for show you "like" it records and keeps for at least 28 days. I liked this feature plus the better channel selection than SlingTV gave.

      I got the 70+ channels package from VUE and is about $35/mo.

      I was already streaming Netflix and have Amazon Prime.

      So, I dropped my bill from $113 to $35 a month. I'm quite happy.

      I've been trying to watch all the DVR content off my Uverse box and have almost done that. Likely after this weekend, I tell Uverse to take their equipment back and just enjoy what I have which I love so far.

      I fiigure in about 8 or so months roughly, I'll break even on my equipment.

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    6. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by PRMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is very misleading. They say, "$20 a month". Then you get your bill and it's $60 because of HD fees, cable box fees, taxes, other unknown fees, etc. And then when your 1-year promo is over it jumps to $100 a month.

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    7. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The numbers seem way off (and prove false) in the summary.

      If the average cord cutter saves 104/month, then the cable companies are losing more than that (as the average cord cutter is at the very least paying for one replacement content provider).

      I currently pay 102/month, 65 (internet), 12 (hulu), 10 (netflix). I'm contemplating dropping netflix and HBO, and to watch thos shows with people I know (I do that primarily anyway). With Cable, I'd be at a similar price, Internet + Very Basic cable (broadcast channels) + HBO, around $95.00, add in netflix, I'm at $105,Hulu has some original content I like, but I would probably not pay for it just to avoid ad on new content, and just stop watching Casual and Difficult People.

      So effectively, I save nothing nothing not having cable, but I don't have to deal with a remote, or their stupid box, or navigating their miserable on-demand, and I get recent broadcast fad free.

      I suspect the typical person saves $25/month dropping cable though (having only one of netflix, hulu, hbo).

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    8. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm surprised Comcast hasnt gone after Netflix already.

      They have, and been caught. The whole Net Neutrality thing was over this very concept. The example was that the location of the Peering nodes were deliberately not upgraded an thus Netflix traffic was impacted. Netflix went so far as to say that they would pay for all the equipment needed at all of the peering locations, and even install CDN points INSIDE Comcast's network to help prevent the congestion problems for Comcast's Netflix customers. Comcast said no thanks.

      Comcast has a vested interest in both Broadcast and Cable TV, and Netflix has a direct impact on both. Comcast is not going to help Netflix even if Netflix does all the work.

      However, since this is all being done on the Network side, it is hidden (obfuscated) to the customer. All they know is Netflix streaming "sucks" a lot of the time, while Comcast streaming almost never does. The customer doesn't see it as a Comcast problem, they see it as a Netflix Problem.

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    9. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by operagost · · Score: 2

      Same here, although that may be because I don't-- can't-- bundle, because I have Comcast Business internet. I'm planning on dumping the TV account and buying the Elite tier on Vue. I would still have access to the few shows I really watch (some require Elite), but save $60 a month. I would only be giving up the ability to save shows indefinitely on their cloud DVR, and CBS, which I could get with an antenna (I already own a good one). Oh, and History, which would suck but I can get Sling if I'm not happy with watching the shows on the web site, yet still pay $40 less than with Comcast.

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    10. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by tattood · · Score: 2

      I'm surprised Comcast hasnt gone after Netflix already.

      They have, and been caught. The whole Net Neutrality thing was over this very concept.

      I think by "gone after", he means attempt to buy the company to help recover their lost revenue from cord cutters.

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    11. Re:Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss? by JustSomeProgrammer · · Score: 4, Informative

      My bill dropped about $100. I didn't change my streaming services because that was how I preferred to consume content even when I had cable so for me don't really factor into the equation. Besides my streaming services together are about $50 a month. (I have 4.) My bill was around $170. Cutting cable dropped it to $70. Just to provide a counter anecdote to your anecdote. As long as you're continuing to get any level of cable at all there additional fees you're paying that with just internet you don't have to. I also decided to buy my own cable modem which will end up only paying off if I stay subscribed for a year, but it is unlikely that I won't use internet for more than a year. You pay rental fees on your cable box, your cable modem, and there's taxes involved. Oh and I decided to increase my internet package or it would have been only $60 a month.

  2. Saving Money by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately a great number of us don't have any alternative once we cut the cord.

    Sure, I'm not paying $80 a month in cable bills any more- but I'm still paying $50 for the data (no option- they have a monopoly on connections fast enough to stream). So- then I add Hulu, and Netflix (the wife has Amazon from a student account). Bang- I'm right back to the price I started with.

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    1. Re:Saving Money by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I will say though... other than sports being harder to watch, I'm much happier with having Netflix and Hulu than I was when I had cable. I like being able to pick what I want, rather than reality TV shows being on every channel and that's my only option. History Channel reality TV, discovery channel reality TV... ARGH!

      Streaming is fragmenting though. Yahoo is stealing some shows from Hulu. CBS is going solo. BBC is launching their own separate channel. Soon it will be more expensive to cut the cord because streaming is fragmenting so badly.

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    2. Re:Saving Money by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Informative

      *if* you didn't already use those services.
      I found that my kids and I almost never watched broadcast TV, but we used Netflix (and Amazon Prime to a much lesser extent) more than TV. It was so bad that we lost the remote control and no one cared. so I turned it all of, data only. Totally worth it. The only real difference is now when a series I really like hits one of the streaming services I don't get enough sleep because I binge, rather than DVR and watching (roughly) when it was broadcast.
      -nb

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    3. Re:Saving Money by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2

      cable internet has been in the $50 to $100 range since it came out in the late 90's. don't know what you expect. The only reason dial up dropped in price was because the would drop everyone who stayed connected more than 20 minutes to free up the port for someone else

    4. Re:Saving Money by Ranbot · · Score: 2

      I will say though... other than sports being harder to watch, I'm much happier with having Netflix and Hulu...Streaming is fragmenting though.

      If haven't already, you might want to check out the Playstation VUE service (works on a few other streaming units too), because it might make your fragmentation of streaming complaint go away, including sports. If VUE was associated with any brand other than Playstation there would be a lot more attention.

    5. Re:Saving Money by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2

      I went 100% data something like 10 years ago. Then Comcast called me up and said "hey, we'll throw in basic cable for $5/month more", so I said "fine" and took it. We didn't watch much - the kids watched Disney Channel when they were much younger but that was about it.

      Then I moved and went back to a data-only plan, which went from $50/month to $70/month for some reason, I think because it got faster.

      Anyway, fast forward two years and last month Comcast called me up and said "hey, for another penny each month we'll throw in basic cable plus a premium channel *and* take you up to 300Mb/sec". I said "Sounds good, I don't need the cable". Long story short, they literally wouldn't upgrade my cable speed until I'd connected the stupid cable box to my tv and turned it on.

      The only good to come of it (besides the ass-kicking speed) is that when it started crapping they sent a tech out who finally figured out what I'd been telling them for two years - there's a problem in the wiring between my house and their office.

      Anyway, the point is that they would not increase my speed without forcing me to get cable. At least I'll be able to get netflix on the comcast box thing soon, although I also need amazon prime and youtube to get even close to replacing a roku.

    6. Re:Saving Money by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Many do, they just think that they "need" all those channels. OTA TV is free, with an initial cost of $20 for an antenna and $10 for coax.

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    7. Re:Saving Money by CaptnCrud · · Score: 2

      Makes me feel lucky I have sirius xm (due to living in the boon docks and having a long commute). I get the premium service so that includes all sports. Even though my car had a sirius capable radio I opted for the free portable car player.

      Now I can just bring it in when I want to listen to games, it includes streaming but why hit my data when I can just plug it into my stereo at home. I actually like listening on the radio, I find I actually "do" stuff while enjoying the game.

      Its not cheap though...280 bucks a year...but not "that" bad if you use it all the time. Between that, netflix and digital antena im set.

  3. "Lose?" by ShaunC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They won't lose any money, they just might not make as much. No company is entitled to continued steady profits.

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    1. Re:"Lose?" by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2

      not really

      internet is probably more profitable than TV since they don't have to pay for the content. i've read they have to pay out something like $30 per account per month to rebroadcast all those channels.

      with internet you lay the wires, install the hardware and just pay the debt off over 10 years or so along with operational costs

    2. Re:"Lose?" by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They won't lose any money, they just might not make as much. No company is entitled to continued steady profits.

      That's communist talk there, mister. We paid good money to your elected officials to see to it that our profits continue. How dare you suggest that we are not then entitled to the representation that we paid for, fair and square.

      Regards,

      Your Friends at Comcast

    3. Re:"Lose?" by Obfuscant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They won't lose any money, they just might not make as much.

      This. The fine article is using the same kind of "lose" where a tax cut that leaves money in the pockets of the workers becomes a loss to the government. Or a 10% hike in funding for an agency or program when they asked for 20% is a "10% cut". It's starting with the assumption that the money belongs to the government or agency being funded (or the cable company) and if they don't get it for any reason it becomes a loss.

      It becomes obvious when you look at the "loss" number ($1248/yr) and the "also found" (amazing discovery!) $104/month that the cord cutters save. Funny that -- a $104/month loss to the cable company is exactly what the customer was paying. I wonder if this "cg42" outfit realizes it is implying that cable companies are non-profits were these numbers true? (I.e., if my paying you $104 per month offsets your $104 per month loss, then you are making no profit!)

    4. Re:"Lose?" by asylumx · · Score: 2

      Ya this is the same thing that went through my head. If the number of customers reduces to a point where the revenue doesn't cover the operating costs, then they are losing money. Until then, they are just not making as much.

    5. Re:"Lose?" by DidgetMaster · · Score: 2

      My thoughts exactly. I have to laugh whenever someone quotes how much the government 'lost' when taxes are reduced. They try to make it sound like you stole something from Uncle Sam just because you were able to take a new deduction or invested in a municipal bond.

    6. Re:"Lose?" by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I have always had an issue with this phrasing.

      If company X makes less money than they did last year, they count it as a loss.... I don't really understand how that works.

      Anyway, to stay on topic...

      I used to pay for cable... but all it is anymore is reality TV interspersed with 10 minute blocks of commercials.... for $100/mo.... thanks... but no.

      Of course, that bundled $100/mo also included the Internet connection. So really, the cable was costing me around $40/mo.

      I am not a sports guy, so I don't have that to worry about and between Amazon Prime, Hulu ad free and Netflix I am at about $35/mo and don't really lose out on much media. I call that an upgrade, even if it costs about as much.

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    7. Re:"Lose?" by CCarrot · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's communist talk there, mister
      communist talk would be 'you are required by law to buy 100 dollars a month' to make sure all the people who make tv shows stay employed.

      So...the BBC model, then?

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  4. The content producers did it to themselves. by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if they stopped putting huge ads with flashing animations and sound overtop of the content, it would actually be worth watching some of their content.

    At least that's why I cancelled my cable subscription.

    1. Re:The content producers did it to themselves. by CCarrot · · Score: 2

      Maybe if they stopped putting huge ads with flashing animations and sound overtop of the content, it would actually be worth watching some of their content.

      At least that's why I cancelled my cable subscription.

      ^^^ THIS!

      Oh my god, the trend towards advertising for the next show while I'm already watching a show on your damned channel drives me fucking insane! I realize it's an attempt to circumvent timeshifting via PVR, but that doesn't mean that it's right to do so. There are some channels that I simply refuse to watch anymore because of this, and if anything were to encourage me to cut the cord, it would be this practice. But...football (sigh).

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  5. Re:They'll just raise the rates for everyone else by Dutchmaan · · Score: 2

    Just like they do every year to make up for cord-cutters.

    I think they call that slitting your own throat.

  6. Good. by iCEBaLM · · Score: 2

    Good.

  7. They could easily fix it but they dont want to by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they let people only pay for the channels they want rather than force them to buy a whole package of useless crap, far fewer people would be cutting the cable.
    The cable companies have known for years that people want this, but they remain too greedy/arrogant to provide what their own customers actually want, so the market is rightfully killing them off.
    At some point they will finally be forced to deal with their own egos just to survive, but by then it will already be way too late for them, because most of their market share will have already moved to other sources such as Netflix, Amazon etc. that already do a much better job of meeting individual needs affordably.

    1. Re:They could easily fix it but they dont want to by crow · · Score: 2

      Yes, they could, but their strategy is to continue with the current model and lock people in with unique content. For now that means sports, as they've lost out on everything else while they were sleeping.

      If they really wanted to copy the competition, Comcast would create their own channels and fund high-quality programming that isn't available elsewhere.

      I think they're waking up now, but I don't think they know what to do about the situation, so they're digging their heels in.

    2. Re:They could easily fix it but they dont want to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The cable companies have known for years that people want this, but they remain too greedy/arrogant to provide what their own customers actually want...

      Actually the production companies like Disney (ESPN, ABC, etc) usually require them to carry the other channels. So if you don't want sports too bad, you're getting ESPN. Cable and satellite companies don't have much leverage here. They can refuse to carry it, or package it differently, and then get their rebroadcast rights pulled. I expect this will happen to streaming as well. It's a lot like beer - the major brewers require stores to stock all their varieties of the same beer, pushing out the microbrews as much as possible. You don't get to carry one and not the other 10 that taste exactly the same.

    3. Re:They could easily fix it but they dont want to by avandesande · · Score: 2

      They probably use this channel leverage in their advertising contracts. "You will be on X,Y and Z channels all subscribed by 1.2 gillion users"

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  8. Ancient Aliens by HBI · · Score: 2

    Every time they say "Ancient Alien theorists" on that show, I want to box my ears. I suppose it sounds better than "crackpots".

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    1. Re:Ancient Aliens by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      I'd like to know why people laugh so much at "ancient alien theorists" or anyone who believes that stuff. Personally, I don't, because the evidence is just way too flimsy, however, what I question is why they get derision, while the large majority of humanity who believes in one of the main religions does not. Why are everyday Christians and Muslims not called "crackpots" too?

      Which "theory" is more plausible? Ancient aliens visited the Earth and had some kind of hand in humanity's development, OR there's a supernatural being who talks to ancient peoples with burning bushes and orders some tribes to commit genocide against other tribes and doesn't want us eating pork? At least the first one has some sort of scientific plausibility. There's no evidence aliens exist, but there's a LOT of stars and planets out there, and if we evolved on this one, it's possible a civilization evolved somewhere else, and it's remotely possible they visited here. Again, there's no evidence for this really, but it's still more plausible than some angry deity magically parting the Red Sea, killing all the firstborn in Egypt, causing "miracles", "angels" existing and having something to do with us even though no one can produce any evidence for it, the Earth being 6500 years old despite all geological evidence to the contrary, etc. Yet people who believe all this stuff are never dismissed as "crackpots", only "devout" or even "normal", depending on the extent of their beliefs (the 6500yo Earth people are generally considered extremists most places except the USA).

  9. Cable Companies LIE to keep you... by zarmanto · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cord cutter, here. If you're thinking of joining me by switching down to an internet-only service, you need to know this: Your cable company is going to lie to you. They're going to tell you all kinds of stories about how they don't actually offer internet-only options, or about how it's actually less expensive to have a bundle than it is to go internet-only. Don't believe them. There is exactly one way to get the full truth out of them: Tell them you're cancelling. As soon as they transfer you to the retention department, someone who actually knows what they're talking about will happily give you that internet-only connection you're looking for, and most likely at a reasonable price, too... at least, for the first year, anyway.

    Sidenote: Obviously, this only works if you have at least one other viable broadband provider in your area. If you live in one of the many broadband monopoly areas... well, in that case, you have my sympathies, because you are well and truly screwed.

  10. Re:More channel choice is needed by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

    Why can't ESPN be it's own $8-12 /mo package?

    Take a look at Playstation VUE's packages (no, you don't have to have a playstation to use it, I'm on the latest version of Amazon FireTV):

    I get the Core Slim package for about $35/mo..has all the ESPN channels, and the SEC Channel.

    This is part of my cord cutting package.

    Just FYI...the VUE application is too much for the PS3 unit if you do have one...the guide just doesn't work well. And on the Roku 3..the Guide is not a true guide like on the Amazon FireTV. I'm guessing the Roku 4 is good too since it has more hardware, but I've not tried it yet.

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  11. Re:More channel choice is needed by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

    It is a shame that Sling is just terrible.

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  12. Meanwhile, here in Europe ... by stasike · · Score: 5, Informative

    I live in Europe.
    I pay 16Euro per month for 70Mbit/s Internet connection.
    A "landline" is included in the price - IP telephony device included - with 20 free minutes to landlines here in my town and free calls within provider network and reasonable prices for calling cellular providers or out-of-town numbers.
    AND, included in that 16Euro/month package, I get some 100 cable channels, with 15 most popular channels having an archive - ability to play, and skip adds for any program from the last 20 days.
    I pay about 7Eur per month extra for package with various Discovery channels, History channel and cartoon channels for my kids (cartoons being the main reason I keep the extra package, because most documentary programs air various reality shows 95% of the time)

    This is what you get when you do not allow companies to create artificial monopolies for the last mile.
    I live in town and 5 different providers have fiber optics cable leading to my apartment building. People living in small distant villages have more limited choice, but they still can get ADSL for some 10Euro/month for uncapped contract, plus satellite package for TV for some 10Euro/month for about 100 channels.

    1. Re:Meanwhile, here in Europe ... by MooseTick · · Score: 5, Informative

      We get it. Internet is cheaper in Europe. Everything else is more, but you get fast cheap internet.

      In America, gas is only €0.47/L. as opposed to €1.23 in Paris or £1.12 in London.

    2. Re:Meanwhile, here in Europe ... by JeffOwl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We didn't let the companies create the artificial monopolies, our government created them.

  13. Data Point by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    Paid my cable bill last night: the broadband chunk of the bill is now ~$20 higher than the (now sports / entertainment tier-free) TV bill.

    Over the last few years, the rate of increase of the broadband part has out-paced the TV rate increases for... reasons?

    Bottom line: Big Cable will get their monthly three-figure pound of flesh even after everything is TCP/IP-based.

    Plus, they need the cash to pay their right-wing prostitutes for banning community-owned broadband systems.

  14. Cg42 wins maths by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cg42 expects each customer to be an average loss of $1,248 annually, and losses to approach $1 billion over the year. Cg42 also found that the average cord-cutter saves $104 per month by canceling.

    And after further investigation, Cg42 has discovered there are 12 months in a year.

  15. Cable already owns Hulu by tepples · · Score: 2

    Same boss because once things start shifting the Cable TV companies will acquire Netflix/Hulu/youname it.

    Hulu LLC is owned by Disney, Comcast, Fox, and Time Warner. All four companies own broadcast TV networks (ABC, NBC, Fox, and half of CW respectively) as well as mid-tier cable TV networks. Comcast is also a multichannel pay television provider.

  16. What happened to the original concept of cable TV? by SuseLover · · Score: 2
    You were supposedly "paying" for no commercials TV.

    Now even the damn "Premium" pay channels i.e showtime, hbo have ommercials.

    WTF?

    Now they're double & triple dipping the f'n ad revenues.

  17. Same AC, added point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I forgot to mention the pricelessness that is realizing your kids have absolutely no idea what a "commercial" is. I am proud when they are utterly confused (then totally frustrated by) commercials when forced to endure them. That could, even more so, be the nail in Cable TV's coffin during the next generation.

    It could also backfire and kids take commercials seriously due to being naive, leading to an even poorer next generation...

  18. Can't lose what you never had by Dracos · · Score: 2

    Cable will lose subscribers, but they won't lose the money those subscribers haven't paid yet. It's like trying to Chicken-Little the fact that cable will "lose" revenue from subscribers that die in the next year.

    The fact is, the TV market is changing and the providers continually refuse to adapt. If cable rates increased at less than 6 times the rate of inflation, that would help save their asses.

  19. I guess I'd phrase it differently by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Cable companies raked in at least $1bn last year from people who really didn't need to be paying them."

    Feels a little different that way.

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  20. Re:Rising prices and declining content by nealric · · Score: 2

    The brain drain from the main cable channels is kind of amazing. Discovery went from serious science documentaries to endless loops of shark attacks. TLC went from educational content to vapid reality TV. A&E went from broadcasting operas to vapid reality TV. History went from serious history documentaries to "When Aliens Attack Part VIII!" CNN Headline went from a short form summary of the top headlines to murder mysteries. The main 24/7 cable news channels have lost all semblance of journalistic integrity. No wonder all the commercials are targeted at the 65+ crowd. There's essentially nothing on broadcast TV left worth watching unless you are a sports fan.

  21. Re:They'll just raise the rates for everyone else by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh, is that what Bernie thinks? The numbers that I see are that people who earn less than $250k have no change in their taxes, and that people who earn more than that have several new brackets they would fall into. There's a small case where people making between $464,851 to $499,999 would actually see their taxes fall by a couple percent, otherwise the new tax brackets for the highest earners ($10 million or more) would go from 39.6% to 52%. If you also include the proposed 2.2% medicare flat tax, then that raises everyone's taxes by 2.2% more and brings the highest earners to 54.2%.

    So anyway, where is your 90% number coming from? I'm curious about your source for that one.

    Haha, no I'm not, I'm kidding, I know you're full of shit and just wanted to call you on it.

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    "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
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