"But I think that each contact stolen should be the definitions of "theft" in this case."
If you're going that route, why not say each data element stolen could be a theft. That means if you had a work address, home address, cell #, phone #, birthday, and email address, that would equal 6 "thefts".
This is bad, but you have to cut it off at some point. If I steal your bicycle, you can only get me for 1 theft. Not 152 for each part. Or 1x10^150 for each atom.
"without ability to turn off, mute, or skip on infotainment"
And next someone will figure out how to cram a paperclip into the speaker and "disable" it. Bonus points if they then complain its not working and ask for a refund.
"For example, the PlayStation developer signup form [playstation.com] currently requires each developer to be a corporation or LLC with its own tax ID, an office with a static IPv4 address, and a domain name with website and email under that domain. SIE declines to do business with sole proprietorships, and many ISPs offer a static IP only to offices in commercially zoned areas, not to home offices."
Those are excuses. An individual can form a LLC or Corp C/S with tax ID for a few hundred dollars. You can get a static IP and domain name for $25/month (not at your residence, but that isn't required).
And an individual can make games and make money. Many "phone" games are made by individuals. Most are duds, but it can happen. It doesn't take a team to write classics like Tetris, Pac-Man, etc. Even Minecraft was originally written by one person. And he ended up selling it for billions!
Yes. Latency is not a factor for every download. Its not like one file downloads, then you have new latency, then another file, then more latency, etc. Once the initilal push/pull starts, its just up to the bandwidth.
I'm also not sure why he says there will be more packet loss either.
"This means a web page will load if the conditions are good or will load eventually but it might stall and fail a lot of times."
This can be an issue with any connection type.
And why will youtube work "fine at 3 AM or 4 AM" and not the rest of the day? Is this due to bandwidth issues, interference from the Sun, or some other reason?
I'd agree. Luckily, the average satellite latency is about half that. And if it isn't found to be usable in that capacity, it could cut tons of terrestrial bandwidth usage so most traffic moves via satellite and leave lots of room for the few applications that need to move fast. Image the speed we could get back if all that Youtube, Netflix, Pandora, Facebook, Roku traffic were moved via satellite.
Is latency a real problem for anyone except a subset of gamers? Web surfing, email, netflix, VOIP, etc should all work fine. Sure, a ping will be 638 ms, compared to 30 ms, but that is still just a half a second. If you can get high speed, almost no one would notice the difference.
And I do agree, "It is impossible to completely prevent a data breach". Its like trying to prevent a burglary or an assault. You can make it more difficult, but you can't stop it 100%. Multiple US Presidents have been shot, and they have arguably the best security money can buy. That said, if the President was assassinated and the Secret Service were found to be negligent, heads would roll.
If you read the proposed law (https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019.4.2%20Corporate%20Executive%20Accountability%20Act%20Text.pdf) it "establish criminal liability for negligent executive officers of major corporations" who "has the responsibility and authority to take necessary measures to prevent or remedy violations."
So, if a corp has been found to be negligent in its handling of data, they aren't just fined, but the executives responsible can be sent to prison. She isn't an IT security expert. Neither are those executives. Still, there are industry standards. We would hold executives who manage our water supply responsible if it were sub-standard and they failed to correct the situation.
She passed the bar in 1976. That was before many people on here was born. She has taught at several universities including the University of Pennsylvania Law School as a full professor and Harvard Law School.
You may not agree with her politics, but you are being dishonest to call her incompetent.
"So you're going to strap yourself into a box on wheels that has no controls for you to use to control it (except maybe a big red "STOP" button that may or may not work) and trust your continued existence to whether or not it fucks up because it's shit?"
People do that every time they get on a bus or airplane or any vehicle that is controlled by another entity. The biggest difference is those usually don't have a "big red "STOP" button" and nearly all accidents are user error, not AI or a hardware issue.
" I sure as shit hope you don't vote for the party that wants the government to solve even more of your problems..."
Like building a wall? or locking more people up? or being hard on drugs? or telling women how their health care should go? or making sure you can sell guns to anyone?
You're right. I won't be voting for a government that will solve those problems.
"It can't be that the police can check it's records, a doorman will tell them just the same."
Doormen don't usually work 24/7 and timestamp every entry to the second. Also, they generally don't remember who came/went perfectly for years after an event.
Just like its ok for police to see you walking around public, but most people wouldn't like them recording every movement for posterity.
So if I'm up for my 3rd strike and have no options, I might as well go balls out. No need to reserve myself and not kill cops/children/little old ladies/Chihuahuas/etc. If I get caught I'm getting executed, so no reason to restrain myself.
You know 30% of jobs now require some state "certification" to perform (https://capx.co/5-jobs-that-inexplicably-require-a-licence-in-the-us/). You have to get a license to sell used cars, cut hair, teach, serve alcohol, sell real estate, drive a school bus, and even apply shampoo in 5 states. Guess who is almost always blocked to "protect the public"? With that the case, it shouldn't be a surprise that someone that got caught doing something stupid at 19 can never recover and be a productive member of society. They are being set up to fail over and over.
"It's a pretty good idea to run new apps in an environment where you can monitor network traffic and see what they are sending."
Yeah. Everyone should do that the next time they install and/or update any app. It makes sense and we all love and know how to analyze network traffic. I'd also add waiting at least a year before using the app on a live device just in case it waits a while to exfiltrate data.
Or, we can all use burner phones and rotate them monthly so its harder to be tracked. That would literally be an easier solution than isolating, monitoring, and analyzing network traffic for each app and determining they are not doing anything suspect.
So I can see this being an issue when you tell the cashier your email address and they enter it in wrong. Then when you need to return the defective product, you suddenly realize you never got the receipt. Now, you could hold up the line until you see it show in your inbox, but I've had mail be delayed 30+ minutes when there are issues in the pipes I can't be aware of. This is just going to lead to abuse from criminals and legitimate grievances from non-tech customers.
If they are presumably moving people from India, I would think they could plop them down in Mexico and it would be a lot cheaper. They could...
pay them less that in US or Canada but more than India
have them in the same time zone
only be a few hours or less away by air
minimal employment laws compared to US/Canada
dangle US employment as a carrot
There are probably other benefits I'm not even thinking of.
"- Lose sales to people outside your ecosystem/who hate DRM"
I'm no DRM fan, but do you honestly think that population of people is greater than 1% of fans who would have otherwise made such a purchase?
I am a Bond fan, but I have neither purchased or pirated a movie. I just wait about 30 minutes and one will invariably be on TBS or some other network.
I'm surprised there aren't hotels that offer free rooms to people who allow cameras to watch them. They get to be exhibitionists, pervs get to watch them, and hotels make money. Its a win win win.
"not seeing any real issue here that isn't readily solvable with known tech"
Sure, they could desalinate ocean water with known tech. That has been possible for over a century. The bigger issue is can they do it and not have water cost much much more than it does today.
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"But I think that each contact stolen should be the definitions of "theft" in this case."
If you're going that route, why not say each data element stolen could be a theft. That means if you had a work address, home address, cell #, phone #, birthday, and email address, that would equal 6 "thefts".
This is bad, but you have to cut it off at some point. If I steal your bicycle, you can only get me for 1 theft. Not 152 for each part. Or 1x10^150 for each atom.
"without ability to turn off, mute, or skip on infotainment"
And next someone will figure out how to cram a paperclip into the speaker and "disable" it. Bonus points if they then complain its not working and ask for a refund.
"For example, the PlayStation developer signup form [playstation.com] currently requires each developer to be a corporation or LLC with its own tax ID, an office with a static IPv4 address, and a domain name with website and email under that domain. SIE declines to do business with sole proprietorships, and many ISPs offer a static IP only to offices in commercially zoned areas, not to home offices."
Those are excuses. An individual can form a LLC or Corp C/S with tax ID for a few hundred dollars. You can get a static IP and domain name for $25/month (not at your residence, but that isn't required).
And an individual can make games and make money. Many "phone" games are made by individuals. Most are duds, but it can happen. It doesn't take a team to write classics like Tetris, Pac-Man, etc. Even Minecraft was originally written by one person. And he ended up selling it for billions!
Yes. Latency is not a factor for every download. Its not like one file downloads, then you have new latency, then another file, then more latency, etc. Once the initilal push/pull starts, its just up to the bandwidth.
I'm also not sure why he says there will be more packet loss either.
"This means a web page will load if the conditions are good or will load eventually but it might stall and fail a lot of times."
This can be an issue with any connection type.
And why will youtube work "fine at 3 AM or 4 AM" and not the rest of the day? Is this due to bandwidth issues, interference from the Sun, or some other reason?
I'd agree. Luckily, the average satellite latency is about half that. And if it isn't found to be usable in that capacity, it could cut tons of terrestrial bandwidth usage so most traffic moves via satellite and leave lots of room for the few applications that need to move fast. Image the speed we could get back if all that Youtube, Netflix, Pandora, Facebook, Roku traffic were moved via satellite.
I'm ok with this as long as they don't do more than 3236. Because we all know, 3,236 satellites ought to be enough for anybody.
"Bandwidth is easy. Latency is hard."
Is latency a real problem for anyone except a subset of gamers? Web surfing, email, netflix, VOIP, etc should all work fine. Sure, a ping will be 638 ms, compared to 30 ms, but that is still just a half a second. If you can get high speed, almost no one would notice the difference.
"I'm tired of these lefty politicians telling us how to run our legal system. Leave it to the cops and soldiers!"
You know, 3 of the last 4 presidents never served either. And the one who did was in the Air National Guard and never saw combat.
"Elizabeth Warren has never served in combat in the military"
At her age and gender, she wouldn't have been allowed to.
And I do agree, "It is impossible to completely prevent a data breach". Its like trying to prevent a burglary or an assault. You can make it more difficult, but you can't stop it 100%. Multiple US Presidents have been shot, and they have arguably the best security money can buy. That said, if the President was assassinated and the Secret Service were found to be negligent, heads would roll.
If you read the proposed law (https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2019.4.2%20Corporate%20Executive%20Accountability%20Act%20Text.pdf) it "establish criminal liability for negligent executive officers of major corporations" who "has the responsibility and authority to take necessary measures to
prevent or remedy violations."
So, if a corp has been found to be negligent in its handling of data, they aren't just fined, but the executives responsible can be sent to prison. She isn't an IT security expert. Neither are those executives. Still, there are industry standards. We would hold executives who manage our water supply responsible if it were sub-standard and they failed to correct the situation.
She passed the bar in 1976. That was before many people on here was born. She has taught at several universities including the University of Pennsylvania Law School as a full professor and Harvard Law School.
You may not agree with her politics, but you are being dishonest to call her incompetent.
The real question, is will AI ever become just plain "I"? If so, what would that require?
"So you're going to strap yourself into a box on wheels that has no controls for you to use to control it (except maybe a big red "STOP" button that may or may not work) and trust your continued existence to whether or not it fucks up because it's shit?"
People do that every time they get on a bus or airplane or any vehicle that is controlled by another entity. The biggest difference is those usually don't have a "big red "STOP" button" and nearly all accidents are user error, not AI or a hardware issue.
" I sure as shit hope you don't vote for the party that wants the government to solve even more of your problems..."
Like building a wall?
or locking more people up?
or being hard on drugs?
or telling women how their health care should go?
or making sure you can sell guns to anyone?
You're right. I won't be voting for a government that will solve those problems.
"It can't be that the police can check it's records, a doorman will tell them just the same."
Doormen don't usually work 24/7 and timestamp every entry to the second. Also, they generally don't remember who came/went perfectly for years after an event.
Just like its ok for police to see you walking around public, but most people wouldn't like them recording every movement for posterity.
So if I'm up for my 3rd strike and have no options, I might as well go balls out. No need to reserve myself and not kill cops/children/little old ladies/Chihuahuas/etc. If I get caught I'm getting executed, so no reason to restrain myself.
You know 30% of jobs now require some state "certification" to perform (https://capx.co/5-jobs-that-inexplicably-require-a-licence-in-the-us/). You have to get a license to sell used cars, cut hair, teach, serve alcohol, sell real estate, drive a school bus, and even apply shampoo in 5 states. Guess who is almost always blocked to "protect the public"? With that the case, it shouldn't be a surprise that someone that got caught doing something stupid at 19 can never recover and be a productive member of society. They are being set up to fail over and over.
"It's a pretty good idea to run new apps in an environment where you can monitor network traffic and see what they are sending."
Yeah. Everyone should do that the next time they install and/or update any app. It makes sense and we all love and know how to analyze network traffic. I'd also add waiting at least a year before using the app on a live device just in case it waits a while to exfiltrate data.
Or, we can all use burner phones and rotate them monthly so its harder to be tracked. That would literally be an easier solution than isolating, monitoring, and analyzing network traffic for each app and determining they are not doing anything suspect.
So I can see this being an issue when you tell the cashier your email address and they enter it in wrong. Then when you need to return the defective product, you suddenly realize you never got the receipt. Now, you could hold up the line until you see it show in your inbox, but I've had mail be delayed 30+ minutes when there are issues in the pipes I can't be aware of. This is just going to lead to abuse from criminals and legitimate grievances from non-tech customers.
If they are presumably moving people from India, I would think they could plop them down in Mexico and it would be a lot cheaper. They could...
pay them less that in US or Canada but more than India
have them in the same time zone
only be a few hours or less away by air
minimal employment laws compared to US/Canada
dangle US employment as a carrot
There are probably other benefits I'm not even thinking of.
"Here in BC, a person can spend up to about $40/month on health premiums."
Most Americans would wet their pants to only pay $40/month for health premiums.
"- Lose sales to people outside your ecosystem/who hate DRM"
I'm no DRM fan, but do you honestly think that population of people is greater than 1% of fans who would have otherwise made such a purchase?
I am a Bond fan, but I have neither purchased or pirated a movie. I just wait about 30 minutes and one will invariably be on TBS or some other network.
"Prime numbers have to be greater than 1 so 1 is not a prime."
According to your definition. Like most terms, there is no king to give the definitive definition. To me, prime is a cut of meat.
Also, remember that math is just a mental contruct that allows our human minds to interpret the universe around us.
I'm surprised there aren't hotels that offer free rooms to people who allow cameras to watch them. They get to be exhibitionists, pervs get to watch them, and hotels make money. Its a win win win.
"not seeing any real issue here that isn't readily solvable with known tech"
Sure, they could desalinate ocean water with known tech. That has been possible for over a century. The bigger issue is can they do it and not have water cost much much more than it does today.