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Newsweek Website Attacked After Report On Trump, Cuban Embargo (talkingpointsmemo.com)

After Newsweek published a report titled "How Donald Trump's Company Violated The United States Embargo Against Cuba," the site found itself on the receiving end of a "massive" denial-of-service attack that managed to shut down the site for several hours. TPM reports: Editor-In-Chief Jim Impoco noted that the attack came as the story earned national attention. "Last night we were on the receiving end of what our IT chief called a 'massive' DoS (denial of service) attack," Impoco wrote in an email to TPM. "The site was down most of last evening, at a time when Kurt Eichenwald's story detailing how Donald Trump's company broke the law by violating the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba was being covered extensively by prominent cable news programs. Our IT team is still investigating the hack." Later Friday afternoon, Impoco emailed TPM that in an initial investigation, the "main" IP addresses linked to the attack were found to be Russian. It should be noted that it is possible to fake an IP address. "As with any DDoS attack, there are lots of IP addresses, but the main ones are Russian, though that in itself does not prove anything," he wrote. "We are still investigating." Eichenwald tweeted Friday morning: "News: The reason ppl couldnt read #TrumpInCuba piece late yesterday is that hackers launched a major attack on Newsweek after it was posted."

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  1. Putin has Trump's back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a bromance.

    1. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by swalve · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope. All we are being asked to believe is that he is a petty, vain man with lots of money. That explains just about everything.

    2. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by AaronW · · Score: 1

      It could very well be. From TPM: "As with any DDoS attack, there are lots of IP addresses, but the main ones are Russian, though that in itself does not prove anything," he wrote. "We are still investigating."

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    3. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by poity · · Score: 1

      DDoS is not the way a nation state conducts counter-propaganda. It makes no sense strategically since Russia has far more effective resources in RT and various online outlets from which to publish much more impactful hits. It also makes no sense tactically since the sudden absence of some information only highlights the existence of that information.

      This points to non-state actors, and unwise ones. It might have been some Trump fans. But it also could have been some other individual or group that Newsweek has recently exposed or embarrassed.

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    4. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      DDoS is not the way a nation state conducts counter-propaganda.

      You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that thugs are smart.

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    5. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      In other words, he's better then your average politician. And far better then Hillary. Who of course is not only petty, vain, with lots of money but has decades of lying through her teeth and massive international fuckups that were either created by her, or created under her watch that have directly impacted large parts of the world.

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    6. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Just look at the tweets he wrote yesterday about the former Miss World model who called him out on sexism. Unhinged is the right word, the guy has no self control.

      Can you imagine what he will do when faced with negotiating with Merkel or some other female foreign leader? I suppose it's a good thing if you want America to be isolated.

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    7. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Once again, we're being asked to believe that Trump is at once totally stupid and really good at The Cyber.

      No, the AC is asking you to believe Putin considers Trump a useful idiot. Which he probably does, whether you think he's right or not.

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    8. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      How does it feel being a fanboi of such a dick?

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    9. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He called her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping", both sexist and racist. He clearly was not referring to her contractual obligation.

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    10. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by alfredo · · Score: 1

      It's not Donald, it is Russia acting in his stead. Russia also influenced the Ukraine elections. Russia has a history of backing far right candidates.

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    11. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by quax · · Score: 1

      Nope, all we have to believe is that he has some fans who are really good at the Cyber.

    12. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Calling someone "Miss Piggy" is more a symptom of being a "speciesist" than a sexist.

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    13. Re: Putin has Trump's back... by alfredo · · Score: 1

      I am more than aware of the US meddling in other countries (former Army Spook). Trump wants to expand his empire to Russia, and he depends on the loans from the Russia Oligarchs. He has also shown interest in lifting sanctions currently on Russia. He has been critical of NATO, claiming they are not paying their fair share. He's also sided with Russia over The Ukraine.

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    14. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      No, not a bromance. That brings entirely unwarranted (if slight) hints of masculinity to the relations between Putin and Trump's haircut.

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    15. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Why don't you tell me since you seem to be projecting so hard.

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    16. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      There is no projecting involved, you clearly are a fanboi.

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    17. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Do you understand what racism is? In this case he is calling her "Miss Housekeeping" because of a racial stereotype that Latina women are usually found in hotels working as maids. Do you honestly think he would have said that if she was not Latina? If you do, you are even stupider than I thought.

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    18. Re: Putin has Trump's back... by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      In the case of Ukraine, Russia is right. Crimea is Russian and was Russian for hundred of years. People living in Crimea consider themselves as Russians, not as Ukrainians. Also, the rest of the country should have been partitioned. I am extremely critical of NATO, mainly for its political positions. I also think sanctions on Russia should be lifted, Russia is not the enemy, I'm strongly against helping Muslim extremists in Syria, I believe Assad should stay in power, I was against the intervention in Libya, against the support to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, etc.

      Basically, I'm strongly against the whole foreign policy of Obama, and Clinton will continue that policy. Clinton is a warmonger and although my military service was the best years of my life, I don't like much the idea of soldiers and civilians dying for petty political games.

    19. Re: Putin has Trump's back... by alfredo · · Score: 1

      Texas was Mexico for hundreds of years, Israel was Palestine for maybe thousands of years. Since the 16 hundreds, my Euro ancestors were Prussians, Polish, German, and Russian.

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    20. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Do you understand what insults are? I guess not. And no, that's not racist. Well I suppose it is racist, if you're a special snowflake and see a person doing a particular job and assign a race to it. Nice ad-hom though, always a great hallmark of the left. FYI your comment doesn't fall into the insult category either.

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    21. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You really are a special kind of idiot, aren't you? He clearly called her "Miss Housekeeping" due to her race.

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    22. Re:Putin has Trump's back... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      How are either of those about a specific race? You can't just say racist about anything you like, it has to actually be a negative comment about a race.

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  2. potential backfire by VernonNemitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The more that Americans perceive that Russia thinks that electing Trump will be good for Russia, the more likely Americans might also think that electing Trump might not be so good for America.

    1. Re:potential backfire by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      What if Putin is counting on that to make sure Hillary wins?

      ooooooooh

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    2. Re:potential backfire by wasted · · Score: 1

      So, if we get WAAAY deep into conspiracy theory, perhaps Clinton faked the email security ineptitude to give her plausible denial, and her IT folks have control of many Russian computers (or are spoofing IP addresses) to perform a DDoS that makes it look like the Russians support Trump.

      I don't know that even an electric monk would believe that Clinton's staff faked email security ineptitude, though.

    3. Re:potential backfire by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      What if you're a pro-Trump troll that's trying to convince Americans that Putin knows that he's disliked by Americans and therefore endorses Trump so that Americans vote for Hillary, so that Americans votes for Trump? Wait, this is getting a bit too complicated...

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    4. Re:potential backfire by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

      The more that Americans perceive that Russia thinks that electing Trump will be good for Russia, the more likely Americans might also think that electing Trump might not be so good for America.

      That was my thought also, but in the context of a false-flag operation arranged by the Dems to bring further discredit down upon The Donald. You'd think that seeing him constantly step on his own dick would be enough to convince people not to vote for him, but there are lots of voters who still imagine his presidency would be good for them. And they're the same kinds of people who still carry the old Cold War grudge and have a hate on for them Russkies. I wouldn't put it past Democratic strategists to take advantage of that, if they thought they could get away with it.

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    5. Re:potential backfire by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Putin wins no matter who gets elected. Nobody is seriously considering getting in his way.

      What is amusing is that Trump is getting finance from Russian banks because others don't trust him. Another thing that is more depressing than amusing is that Trump does not see Putin for what he is or just doesn't care.

    6. Re:potential backfire by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It got too complicated once Trump did the birther thing and then understood that he could game the media enough to run for President.

    7. Re:potential backfire by dbIII · · Score: 1

      My money is on a few annoyed script kiddies doing their attack of the week got annoyed by the same thing at once.

    8. Re:potential backfire by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Yes, domestic. What nation with all the Bear code news, all international ip ranges been watched and well understood would even need to try this?
      Discovery is an issues and junk or fake data been offered as a honeypot is a risk.
      US sites and all access is well tracked by the NSA, GCHQ with in the US and at all international access to US networks.
      Data flow in or out, or access to a site would be discovered by the NSA, methods understood and protective methods worked on.
      Most nations just use their generations of tested, trusted and well placed human spies rather than risk moving around vast amounts of data created as US digital bait.
      The internet belongs to the NSA, GCHQ and NRO. No data flows domestically or as international data in or out without their tracking it.

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    9. Re:potential backfire by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The internet belongs to the NSA, GCHQ and NRO. No data flows domestically or as international data in or out without their tracking it.

      Indeed, but from various leaks it appears the NSA at least can't find their arse with both elbows so while they have stuff on a disk somewhere what are they going to do with it? They couldn't even spot the "Arab Spring" happening until they saw it on Fox.

    10. Re:potential backfire by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      That would be State or CIA, MI6, front foundation or NGO funding :)
      Tempora shows the day to day totality of tracking everything even on a more limited UK budget. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      The ability to reconcile any data movements domestic origins would be trivial over days or longer.
      The long term view seems to be to track the skill set of any other nations ability to enter a US/UK network and note the tools used and any live searches done in such events.
      Why anyone with access would use a database live for a search and risk all with logs kept or a realtime admin?
      Other nations just seem to use insiders to walk out with bulk data to sort later or the digital bait is so open anyone with a network connection is transversing diverse US networks.
      The other option is just the random use by corporate interests, criminal, other "friendly" nations, ex staff, former staff, cults, individuals looking around or gaining skills.
      Tools used seem to be well understood by the US security contractors, so must be in a few different hands globally if such detailed info can pass quickly to the waiting media.

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    11. Re:potential backfire by quax · · Score: 1

      Let's see. Enough nukes to wipe out the planet, largest standing army in Europe. Supporting a hot war in the Ukraine, propping up Syria's Assad, which caused millions of refugees to migrate into Europe which is destabilizing the EU.

      Yeah, clearly why would anybody care about Russia ...

    12. Re:potential backfire by quax · · Score: 1

      Since I don't live in the US Iran would be hard pressed to kill my kids on American soil.

      The US is very inept in its foreign policy but it is foolish to buy into the Kremlin storyline hook, line and sinker. Neither the Ukraine situation nor the Syrian conflict is as simple as you paint it, and the US involvement is much more remote than you seem to think.

      It is very easy to tap into strong Anti-American sentiments, and to blame everything that's gone wrong on the USA, and Putin's propaganda is very good at that. I bet you even buy into their assertion that MH17 was shot down from Ukraine controlled territory.

    13. Re: potential backfire by quax · · Score: 1

      It's not a matter of their ruthlessness, but the gathered evidence, which strongly implicates that the plane was shot down with a Russian provided Buk.

  3. The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are authoritarian followers, that fight anybody that disagrees with them with violence. They are irrational and dangerous. They are unable to find a middle-ground with others. This is the same type of people that are responsible for countless mass-murders throughout history and have establishes countless totalitarian states. These people are the enemy of anybody not in their camp. And they destroy nations.

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    1. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by arbiter1 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Um you just comfused Hillary fans with Trump fans. Its Left side that has been the Violent one's at every turn. Look at the BLM that support's Hillary. Looting, Arson, Destruction. Stop with Leftist Lie's, hiding the fact is Leftist Soro's funded people that are the violent ones.

    2. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by arbiter1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Its only Anti-trump/pro-clinton fools you see stealing sign's outta people's front yards or BURNING them.

    3. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by HBI · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A Kia that I own with a Trump sticker in Baltimore got vandalized to the tune of $2500 in July. I appreciated the new paintjob, since I have a $100 comp deductible, but the person did it to be a criminal douchebag.

      My yard sign has been ripped up 3 times in a Baltimore suburb. I have had dog shit dumped on my lawn 4 or 5 times. Eventually I installed cameras and caught the motherfuckers, who got fined and harassed by the cops, but it was fundamentally a waste of money to deal with the scumbag local Democrats.

      Recurrent theme around here, and a number of the houses in the neighborhood have pulled up their signs to avoid the bullshit. Isn't changing how they are voting, though.

      So yeah, about those Trump supporters...?

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    4. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 2

      I totally agree! Like you said they're just like Clinton fans.

    5. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 2
    6. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I have had dog shit dumped on my lawn 4 or 5 times.

      Dogs will do that.

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    7. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Independent here, not a "Trump fan".

      They are authoritarian followers, that fight anybody that disagrees with them with violence. They are irrational and dangerous. They are unable to find a middle-ground with others.

      You're describing Hillary's followers here.

      This is the same type of people that are responsible for countless mass-murders throughout history and have establishes countless totalitarian states. These people are the enemy of anybody not in their camp. And they destroy nations.

      Again, you are clearly describing progressives and their policies. In fact, Hillary herself, as SoS, has literally authorized mass killings, aided and supported totalitarian regimes, viciously attacked her political opponents, and destroyed nations.

      Trump and his followers may be uneducated and stupid, but Hillary and her followers are smart, violent, and vicious.

    8. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      A Kia that I own with a Trump sticker in Baltimore got vandalized to the tune of $2500 in July.?

      I am doubly sorry to hear that.

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    9. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      Independent here, not a "Trump fan".

      They are authoritarian followers, that fight anybody that disagrees with them with violence. They are irrational and dangerous. They are unable to find a middle-ground with others.

      You're describing Hillary's followers here.

      .

      Because authoritarians follow charismatic leaders...

      Just saying repeating what someone else says doesn't make it true, no matter where you claim your loyalties lie (or in this case loyalties you disclaim).

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    10. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The really gold standard of stupidity is that some Trump supporters think that there is a sizeable population of 1%-ers who are quaking in their boots at the thought of a Trump presidency.

      These dumbfucks actually think that Trump will bring about change that will be against the desires of the wealthy.

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    11. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I doubt this is true, because this is the internet. And if it is true, then I still don't care. Both parties are obviously stupid. One owns a kia and lives in Baltimore and is stupid enough to put a trump sticker on their car. The other is an A-hole for actually doing the vandalism.

      Trump voters should understand that other than pretending to be worth a billion dollars, being a racist isn't socially accepted anymore. So you kinda had 'some' retribution coming to you. But I would have preferred it if it was more along the lines of public shaming of you being a Trump supporter than anything else, thereby ruining your standing with normal people. #SorryNotSorry I really don't have any sympathy for bigots and/or those who support them.

    12. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      She's not necessarily better than Trump. She's just more personable and presentable. She also receives plenty of sexism, which makes her plight endearing in that manner. None of that makes her more or less dangerous to liberty.

    13. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Eventually I installed cameras and caught the motherfuckers, who got fined and harassed by the cops...

      Your troll would have come across as more credible if you had managed to avoid the temptation to feed your ego with that embellishment. Harassed you say, golly.

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    14. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It seems that Trump supporters just kill dogs over yard signs: http://www.newsy.com/videos/co...

    15. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1, Troll

      Because authoritarians follow charismatic leaders...

      Authoritarians follow leaders advocating authoritarian policies, like Hillary does.

      Just saying repeating what someone else says doesn't make it true, no matter where you claim your loyalties lie (or in this case loyalties you disclaim).

      Honey, I've been saying that Hillary is a lying, authoritarian, corrupt, incompetent bitch since long before Trump even entered the race.

    16. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trump, the best president that money can buy. The best. 100 percent.

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    17. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when you advertise a preference for hateful politicians. You get what you deserve.

    18. Re: The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 1

      To make America great again, and #business.

    19. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 2

      She isn't the one trying to restrict people's rights and put up border walls and calling minorities criminals. She hasn't advocated any war crimes or assassinations that I know of.

    20. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 1

      Authoritarians follow the leaders who appear to fit with their beliefs. They choose leaders who promise to be bullies and curbstompers on their behalf. Charisma has nothing to do with it.

    21. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They are the same idiots who fell for the tea party. They are the conservative version of occupy wall street. Petulent simpletons falling for the myth of the simple solution.

    22. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      She is trying to restrict people's rights (she's a hardcore authoritarian). She fully supports the border wall (there's video evidence). She has called black people far worse than criminals (there's video of that as well). She has committed war crimes, not just spoken of them. I don't think she's had people assassinated despite the funny Republican body count crap, but I discount most of the ridiculous Dem-Rep vs Rep-Dem fighting.

    23. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      I don't have youtube here. Try Gôgil

    24. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Uh, the video is right there. I do have access to Google, I'll see if I can do a super freaking simple search for your lazy ass.

    25. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1
    26. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      You are incorrect. This hasn't been true of the left probably ever, but definitely not in a generation or two.

      It has always been true of the left and progressives; and, of course, the left and progressives have always denied it too and are fooling themselves into believing that the authoritarian policies they are advocating are not, in fact, authoritarian.

      How about an example to support your tired talking points?

      There are plenty of books; von Mises "Socialism" is a good start.

      Face it, nobody gives a shit about your conservative nonsense.

      What rock are you living under? Left wing ideologies have failed all around the world, and the majority of Americans rejects both "the left" and progressivism. For that matter, so does much of Europe.

    27. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      Authoritarian leaders are not the least consistent about policy. That's why scholars have had so much trouble characterizing fascism as an ideology, because it's not an ideology. It's a disease of ideology; it's politics rotting from the head down, like a fish.

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    28. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      Charisma has everything to do with it, and policy nothing to do with it. An authoritarian leader can contradict himself on policy and his followers won't care.

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    29. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So if he catches the little sub-human piece of filth that tries this, and beats them half to death, I guess we can say the same thing: "they got what they deserved", "consequences for their actions", and all that, right? Or would you be crying in a fit of hypocrisy, claiming they're the victim?

      This thread is just more evidence of the lefties being violent, non-thinking thugs. Last time commies like this got into power, there was a holocaust. If she gets her (really her puppet-masters') way, it'll be war with Russia.

      Some gravy on top: here's a corrupt little democrap who was caught committing election fraud since the Clinton campaign apparently can't win an honest election.

      The Hillary compaign: lie, cheat, steal, defraud. If confronted: Lie some more, buy off those in charge. Corruption is always the order of the day. It's pathologic.

      List of countries destroyed by Hillary. Next up on that list if she gets elected: America!

    30. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

      While that may be true it doesn't by magic turn Trump into a Prince even if he acts as if he is as entitled as one.
      He's a scumbag that should not be trusted near taxpayers money. You don't have to play the "lesser of too evils" game.

    31. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by yuriklastalov · · Score: 3, Informative

      You don't seem to understand. It's bad to say Islam causes terrorism because not all Muslims are terrorists. It's good to say all Trump supporters are authoritarian, fascist bootlickers because some Trump supporters are authoritarian, fascist bootlickers.

      Also, it's not a double standard when your ideology is actually the one favored by the universe itself, possessed and composed of only truth and fact. For the Trump supporters out there, that means the modern American Progressive movement is based entirely on truth and fact, and it is the only ideology which is so comprised.

      Suck it, conservative scum, the left is TRUTH, the left is FACT, the left is LOVE. I hope you all die horrible deaths at the hands of those you hate so much.

    32. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      While that may be true it doesn't by magic turn Trump into a Prince even if he acts as if he is as entitled as one.

      Indeed, it doesn't.

      You don't have to play the "lesser of too evils" game.

      Well, you can vote for Johnson.

      But between Hillary and Trump, Trump is the lesser of two evils. Why? For the simple reason that he is so politically inept and powerless that he can't get anything done. Hillary, on the other hand, is a skilled politician who would wreck this country if she managed to implement only a fraction of her stated agenda.

    33. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Authoritarian leaders are not the least consistent about policy.

      Just like Hillary then.

      That's why scholars have had so much trouble characterizing fascism as an ideology, because it's not an ideology. It's a disease of ideology; it's politics rotting from the head down, like a fish.

      Indeed: fascism and socialism are actual, working policies, they are the propagandistic use of a particular set of grievances and empty promises. And, again, those overlap strongly with Hillary's promises.

    34. Re: The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1

      If Trump has a Youth, it would have to be /pol/, and the Brown Shirts certainly aren't remembered for their dank memes.

      In any case, it's the left that have the gangs of violent youth these days. Just wait until Trump wins in November and the Antifa becomes a thing in the US. Gonna be great.

    35. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I'm voting for candidate A, because A claims to be able to fix the country! Candidate B also claims to be able to fix the country but you can't trust liars from that party.

    36. Re: The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by cunina · · Score: 2

      Fighting fascism with censorship and intimidation? That's like fighting obesity with onion rings.

    37. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Trump is the lesser of two evils. Why?

      I thought I was being very explicit that there is not much point making that comparison. It's about choosing someone suitable and not the lesser evil.

      Hillary, on the other hand, is a skilled politician who would wreck this country if she managed to implement only a fraction of her stated agenda.

      Yes, yes, women wrecking the joint and all that - even though I think she is slime unfit for office aren't you going a bit far beyond ridiculous with the "wreck this country" line?

      Are you pushing the line of "Hillary is bad too so vote for Trump?" Yes or no?

    38. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      How's Trump's underage rape trial going?

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    39. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      So you are trying to make a case that Hillary Clinton has "build a wall at the Mexican border" as a campaign plank. Nice try, crank.

      Unlike Clinton, Trump is actually guilty much of what he is accused.

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    40. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Holy fuck are you that naive? Antifa? Environmental groups? Anti-abortion protesters? Hell anti-"right-wing" protesters? No-platforming? Violent protests? "Anarchists for *insert socialist/marxist ideology here*"? Safe-space bullshit? Anti-speech zones, violent altercations at "free speech" zones? I can think of a dozen cases in the last 5mo where leftists have violently attacked people for not following the right kind of ideology. Or attempting to get them fired from a job. Hell in 5 minutes on youtube you can take your pick of violent leftists attacking people all in the name of their ideology while screaming it's really those right-wingers that are violent!

      The left has been teaching violent tactics as a part of social disruption since the 1960's.

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    41. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      What's the difference between Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party? The media had it out for the Tea Party since day one. What's the other difference? The tea party actually got many of their candidates elected.

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    42. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ultranova · · Score: 1

      They are authoritarian followers, that fight anybody that disagrees with them with violence.

      Authoritarians who want Trump to rule with an iron fist, or anarchists who want him to bring it all crashing down? And then there's likely to be the occasional idiot who actually takes anti-Hillary propaganda seriously.

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    43. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      I thought I was being very explicit that there is not much point making that comparison.

      Yes, and you were wrong, get it? We effectively have a choice between two candidates.

      Yes, yes, women wrecking the joint and all that - even though I think she is slime unfit for office aren't you going a bit far beyond ridiculous with the "wreck this country" line?

      I have no problem voting for a woman. This has nothing to do with "women", even though Hillary likes to use her gender to detract from her political problems.

      Are you pushing the line of "Hillary is bad too so vote for Trump?" Yes or no?

      No, not at all. I think Hillary is eminently qualified and skilled. The problem with Hillary is what she actually wants to do, and the fact that (unlike Trump) she actually has the skill and the power to implement her program. Nixon was also qualified and skilled, but that didn't make him a good person to vote for.

    44. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by atgaaa · · Score: 1

      Non violent Trump supporter here. I see Hillary as the authoritarian (private mail server), irrational(shameless liar) and dangerous(Benghazi) candidate in this race. She is dishonest, corrupt, dangerous and petty. Worse she corrupts others.
      She is everything we do not want in our government. I want my government to work for the people, not for themselves.

    45. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      Fascism and socialism are entirely different in their nature. A fascist can a capitalist in the morning and a socialist in the afternoon as long as it suits his purpose.

      It's the polar opposite of being doctrinaire; the doctrinaire extremist fits the occasion to the theory; the fascist fits the theory to the occasion.

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    46. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 2

      Fascism and socialism are entirely different in their nature.

      Actually, they are almost identical in their nature: they are both fiercely anti-capitalist, they both advocate a supposedly temporary period of totalitarian government in order to achieve their goals, and they both promise to take from the rich and give to the poor. They mainly differ in some details, such as their beliefs about race, religion, and nationhood. In practice, they both lead to poverty, violence, oppression, police states, and economic collapse.

    47. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by hey! · · Score: 1

      Fascism is only opportunistically anti-capitalist, which you would know if you studied its history in various places as well as over time. It flirted with socialism particularly in the early 20th century because that was seen by many as the wave of the future, but when it managed to gain power it purged, sidelines, or even outright murdered the socialists in its ranks.

      Your view is very parochial in any case; social democracies like Sweden are much less like the fascist regimes of the early 20th Century than, say, Russia is under the United Russia party, which (surprise) is made up of former socialists who are now crony capitalists.

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    48. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by HBI · · Score: 1

      Yes, they got told that they'd get arrested next time, rather than a $250 littering ticket. I don't really care a lot if you believe it - it is accurate as stated.

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    49. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Fascism is only opportunistically anti-capitalist, which you would know if you studied its history in various places as well as over time.

      Fascism has large, privately owned corporations, but it is not in any way "capitalist". And the difference between fascism and socialism is fairly small in practice, because in socialist countries, the people who get to be in charge of large state-owned enterprises really act pretty much the same as owners of big corporations in fascism.

      And, of course, what Hillary, Sanders, and the American "left" propose is not a socialist economic model (public ownership of the means of production), but a fascist economic model, namely private ownership of the means of production with strong public regulation and strong taxation of profits and "unearned income". So, even if you take the view that socialism is preferable to fascism, the American "left" is not in any way socialist. In fact, they are going down the same route as the progressives and fascists of the early 20th century.

      social democracies like Sweden are much less like the fascist regimes of the early 20th Century

      Sweden is neither fascist nor socialist. Sweden, like most of Europe and the US, is a democracy with a capitalist/free market economic system, and some social welfare components. In fact, social expenditures per capita and government services in the US are higher than in nearly all of Europe, so the US is, if anything, more of a social welfare state than European countries.

    50. Re: The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Better a rational criminal like Clinton than a disconnected-from-reality extreme narcissist with delusions like Trump.

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    51. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by HBI · · Score: 1

      The woman who threw the dog shit bag in the video also made some rude gestures until she realized she was on camera. And she is one of the local democrats.

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    52. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You are confusing Hillary and her followers.

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    53. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And that is really funny, because Trump is a card-carrying member of the 1%-ers. He will never ever do anything against them.

      Anyways, regardless of who makes it, the US will lose big-time. I just think the risks of a really big catastrophe are just quite a bit smaller with Clinton, because at least she is a rational criminal.

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    54. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      You are confusing Hillary and her followers.

      Really? Where? I thought I was pretty careful to refer to Hillary and/or her followers as necessary. You're welcome to point out where you disagree.

    55. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. This has time and again happened throughout history. There are no simple solutions that work. Either the have massive negative side-effects or they do not work outright.

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    56. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Well, it is more like we have candidate H which will likely not make things massively worse and will likely not destroy the country and the planet. Then we have candidate T with basically the same characteristics, although we cannot be so sure about the destruction-angle. It really is a choice between the plague and cholera, with one being somewhat less bad. What is going to be the real problem in the long run is that both have large factions among their followers which are utter scum. A country with so many people of this type does not have much of a future.

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    57. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      The Tea Party lives in a fantasy world and promises things that cannot be delivered. They are also completely bereft of any morals or ethics. Sure, what they said spoke to many people of the same defective nature and that got their candidates elected. But anything built on their view of the world has no long-term future and that is what makes them a massive problem. On the other hand, the future looks pretty grim anyways, so perhaps the Tea-Party may just an indicator of the problem.

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    58. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Difficult to say. In some sense, if Trump makes it all crash without nuking the planet or worse, that may be preferable to the slow decline that Clinton represents. On the other hand, the slow decline is much, much safer as Trump may actually nuke the planet, maybe even only because he does not understand how things work.

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    59. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I do not disagree on anything you say. But a cold hard look at Trump shows that he manages to be a lot worse. (which is quite an accomplishment.) He is a narcissistic con-man with an extremely simplified view of the world, no personal morals, and a lose cannon because he actually does not understand things when the get even a little complicated.

      I would much rather have a rational criminal in power, than anybody even remotely like Trump. That said, both candidates are extremely bad choices.

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    60. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      No, I said nothing about campaign. You should know everything a politician says during a campaign is a lie. That's her genuine opinion as she clearly stated.

    61. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      You should know everything a politician says during a campaign is a lie. That's her genuine opinion as she clearly stated.

      An opinion may change, not at all the same as a promise. What is your point?

      As far as lies go, lies do matter. Trump is off the end of the scale and disqualifies himself by that measure alone.

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    62. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      I know, they both have far and above "disqualified" themselves. That has absolutely no meaning to the real world. It sucks. Neither should receive votes.

    63. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      they both have far and above "disqualified" themselves.

      Clinton is disqualified only according to the Trump campaign, otherwise such arguments do not survive the harsh light of fact checking. Trump is quite another matter.

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    64. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Not true. Look at the kinds of things Obama had to say about Clinton in 2008. She only has his support because they're all sleeping with the same international organization (Democrat party). When people criticize Clinton, people always bring up Trump to try to change the subject. They're both terrible options. Don't vote for them.

    65. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Your argument re disqualification of Clinton is entirely rhetoric, devoid of facts.

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    66. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      So you don't believe the things that Obama said about her in 2008? I have liked Obama. I wish people like you could get on board. I know he's black, but give him a chance. I trust his assessment of what he said about Clinton before it served his party to change his story.

    67. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Actually, they are almost identical in their nature

      Actually, it shows you're throwing out a couple of Big Words you've heard, with nothing approaching an understanding of either term.

      they both advocate a supposedly temporary period of totalitarian government in order to achieve their goals, and they both promise to take from the rich and give to the poor. In practice, they both lead to poverty, violence, oppression, police states, and economic collapse.

      Which is false, false, false, false, false, false and false, respectively.

    68. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Actually, it shows you're throwing out a couple of Big Words you've heard, with nothing approaching an understanding of either term.

      Honey, I'm a older gay man who grew up in Europe, in part in a socialist country, in part in a formerly fascist country, in part in a social welfare state. My life depended on knowing what those terms mean. If you don't understand what I was saying, I suggest you go back and read up on your history, instead of listening to the self-serving crap and propaganda that US and European "left wing" politicians try to peddle.

    69. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Yes, and you were wrong, get it?

      No I was very certainly correct - that really is my opinion.
      You do NOT get to tell me what I am thinking about even if that petty bullying tactic gets you some "wins" in childish mass debating games.

    70. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      No I was very certainly correct - that really is my opinion.

      You didn't state it as your opinion, you stated it as fact. And as fact, it is wrong: there is very much a point to making that comparison.

      if that petty bullying tactic gets you some "wins" in childish mass debating games.

      We're not having a "debate"; I'm simply telling you in no uncertain terms that you are confused and need to reexamine your assumptions and beliefs. Hopefully, a bit of rudeness and disrespect will shake you out of your bubble of ignorance and like-minded idiots.

    71. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

      You didn't state it as your opinion, you stated it as fact

      Bullshit. I know you like to pick on the kiddies but sometimes that shit just does not work.

    72. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      First of all, you stated it as absolute fact, not opinion:

      I thought I was being very explicit that there is not much point making that comparison.

      Second, I didn't dispute that you hold that view, I am saying that the view itself is wrong. You'd be surprised at all the (morally, factually) wrong opinions and views you likely hold.

    73. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Stated as fact? Put down tha banjo son an go help yaw sister/wife wit da moonshine.
      English - do you fucking speak it?

    74. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      You still have not mentioned a fact. Trump toady much?

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    75. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Your beloved Trump is a terrible candidate. As bad a choice a Clinton. I provided references when requested.

    76. Re: The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by HBI · · Score: 1

      Oh fuck off, AC. I said "Baltimore area". It's Harford County. It's a Republican area, like most of the suburbs are.

      The smell of retarded asshole fills the air near your post.

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    77. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Wow. So what's your excuse then? Here I was, assuming you were just another redneck who grew up on Limbaugh and Fox News, but you have first hand experience with actual socialism? So how much work did you have to do to get yourself that divorced from reality - a power drill to the side of the head, enough hallucinogens to kill a herd of elephants, or both?

      Because it takes a powerful level of willful dumbfuckery to equate fascism and socialism the way you just did, with anything beyond a preschool education.

    78. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      They are the same idiots who fell for the tea party. They are the conservative version of occupy wall street. Petulant simpletons falling for the myth of the simple solution.

      The funny* part is that the GOP / Kochs lost control of this rabble, as evidenced by Trump winning the nomination.


      * Not funny ha-ha, more like funny, here comes Idiocracy.

    79. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Because it takes a powerful level of willful dumbfuckery to equate fascism and socialism the way you just did, with anything beyond a preschool education.

      I didn't equate them, I pointed out commonalities:

      they both advocate a supposedly temporary period of totalitarian government in order to achieve their goals, and they both promise to take from the rich and give to the poor. In practice, they both lead to poverty, violence, oppression, police states, and economic collapse.

      :

      They do differ in some respects: fascism tends to be nationalistic, racist, and associated with a warped version of Christianity, while socialism/communism tends to favor pan-nationalism, suppression of racial differences, and atheism. Support in both cases is from an odd mix of working classes and urban elites and intellectuals. There has historically also been a significant back and forth of voters between socialism and fascism. Mostly, it's people with chips on their shoulders that vote for either kind of party, and people with chips on their shoulder come from all walks of life.

      Here I was, assuming you were just another redneck who grew up on

      There is another commonality among fascists, socialists, and other assorted worshippers of totalitarianism: they all stereotype and demonize people who disagree with them.

      These two quotes from you summarize the discussion nicely:

      It's the polar opposite of being doctrinaire; the doctrinaire extremist fits the occasion to the theory; the fascist fits the theory to the occasion.

      Actually, it shows you're throwing out a couple of Big Words you've heard, with nothing approaching an understanding of either term.

      I think your pomposity juxtaposed to your ad hominems nicely summarizes your position, and your level of ignorance.

    80. Re:The nature of the Trump-fans is pretty obvious by swalve · · Score: 1

      It has to be proof of some ancient curse along the lines of "may your prayers be answered".

  4. The Effect by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    Trump, Putin, and Streisand! A match made in...

    *HURK*

    Sorry, sorry, i don't think i can finish that thought. And now i need to go get some brain bleach.

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    1. Re:The Effect by Streetlight · · Score: 1

      At first I was thinking the folks who perpetrated the DoS attack generated the SE (Streisand Effect) having the unintended consequence of drawing many more views of the Newsweek article then would otherwise occur. Then I thought maybe that was the purpose of the DoS attack. Draw your own conclusions.

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    2. Re:The Effect by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Logs or it didn't happen?

  5. Correlation? by ichthus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did Newsweek publish any other stories that day (or that week)? Is there a definite correlation between that publishing of that story and the DDOS?

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    1. Re:Correlation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Can you really be that obtuse?

    2. Re:Correlation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This story was being picked up by cable news. Whereas, before this, when was the last time you heard Newsweek mentioned?

    3. Re:Correlation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I came here to say this as well. Remember when we used to have a thing called the "Slashdot Effect"? Why attribute malice when it very well could be that their servers were incapable of handling the load? For all we know they have a clueless IT department.

    4. Re:Correlation? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Did Newsweek publish any other stories that day (or that week)?

      No, the only thing that Newsweek published all week was a story about Trump. Not many people know this, but Newsweek is down to 1 employee who is both the journalist and webmaster.

      Is there a definite correlation between that publishing of that story and the DDOS?

      There is definitely a correlation between the two. They happened on the same day. That's a correlation. You could even say that Newsweek gets hit by DOS attacks any day they post a piece by Kurt Eichenwald about Trump breaking the Cuban embargo.

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    5. Re:Correlation? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      Good point. It could have been Brad or Angelina's minions. Or they did a story on Justin Bieber's new girlfriend and all the Beliebers couldn't handle it.

      I mean, it could have been anybody.

    6. Re:Correlation? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Did Newsweek publish any other stories that day (or that week)?

      Trump's Castro Connection was the front page story.

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  6. I for one am shocked by barakn · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... just shocked that Trump supporters don't believe in the 1st Amendment right to free speech. I truly thought they had the Bill of Rights tattooed on their thighs.

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    1. Re:I for one am shocked by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      Obviously you're kidding as he's clearly against the 4th, and only semi-supports the 2nd. His position on the 1st has been made clear with his desire to censor the internet.

    2. Re:I for one am shocked by swalve · · Score: 1

      Oh, they do. But they also believe that rights are only for some people.

  7. We get the government we deserve by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    In before the first post saying that a DDOS attack is actually free speech.

    Meanwhile, the orange tweaker-in-chief is up at 3am rage-posting about some chick that wouldn't sleep with him 15 years ago.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/09/3...

    I think God's just fucking with us now.

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    1. Re:We get the government we deserve by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      I think God's just fucking with us now.

      Well, there's something we agree on.

      I'm starting to question my own reality now.

      Did I actually die a few years ago?

      Is this some twisted, abstract kind of hell?

      Or are these two really the best we could come up with?

      I keep thinking "This is the stupid shit I've ever seen, it can't get worse", then something else comes along that shatters that notion.

      Take this picture taken in a college sociology class, for example:

      http://imgur.com/a/oC4D0

      (I have several pictures of this, if anyone is interested)

      Paying to go to college to learn about memes and pepe.

      Please, wake me up. I want to go back to the good old days of photoshopping monkey faces onto Bush.

    2. Re:We get the government we deserve by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      If four or five years ago you'd been in a creative writing class and written a story detailing this election and Trump's role in it, it would have been panned as "ridiculous", "unrealistic", "pure nuttery" and "impossible"....but here we are.

      If you'd written about a presidential candidate who bragged about being able to shoot people in the middle of the street with without losing a single voter, the teacher would have told you that the scene was childishly unbelievable in the extreme.

      If you'd written that the candidate ran on a platform of wanting to deport 11 million people, you'd have been laughed out of the room.

      If you wrote a scene where the candidate publicly trashed a widely-respected war hero, the book would end about two pages later with him going down in flames.

      I mean, maybe we are living in a simulation, because this just doesn't seem like reality to me.

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    3. Re:We get the government we deserve by riskkeyesq · · Score: 2

      Let's just agree that we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.

    4. Re:We get the government we deserve by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking maybe I've got a new sig...you don't mind do you?

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    5. Re:We get the government we deserve by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Maybe the Matrix is close to needed a reboot.

    6. Re:We get the government we deserve by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I can improve on it: "Anyone can grow up to be president, and you don't even have to grow up to do it."

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    7. Re:We get the government we deserve by swalve · · Score: 1

      Certainly better than what you have now.

    8. Re:We get the government we deserve by swalve · · Score: 1

      Huh? What are you talking about?

    9. Re:We get the government we deserve by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The citizens get the democracy they deserve.

    10. Re:We get the government we deserve by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      "Mommy, I want to grow up to be president!"
      "Don't say that, now go wash your mouth out with soap!"

  8. Trump's a D-Bag, but... by eepok · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Trump's a D-Bag, but if there's literally no evidence that the DDOS came as a RESULT of the article (only that it came after the story), then why are we strongly insinuating causality?

    There's no need for that. Trump's already shit stain and everyone knows it. There's no need to jump to conclusions and tie him to something that he may not be associated. Because if it turns out that he's NOT associated, this will just be conspiracy theorist and Trump pariah bait.

    1. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      Also there are fanatics on both sides. An action attacking negative news on the public figure doesn't mean it was carried out by the opposing team.

      There is a good chance a fanatical supporter was involved, but it doesn't eliminate the leadership or a sympathetic friend either.

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    2. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Have you actually seen the candidates? Looked at them, considered their backgrounds, seen their flaws, without comparing them to each other? Compare them to some of the more solid citizens you know, not another psycho power-mongering politician. I have and I wouldn't hire either of them to clean my septic system, much less for the office of president of the US.

      I think it is exceptionally safe to say that any of their "supporters" are in fact "fanatics." They would have to be in order to generate the suspension of disbelief and maniacal myopia necessary to support either of them. Their flaws are like something straight out of bad fiction, and yet here they are, the first runner up and the winner of the most "powerful job on the planet."

      And to think, many of you are worried about global warming destroying the planet in the next 100 years. HA! The fucktard you elect next will probably end it in less than 8.

      Thanks America.

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    3. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it is exceptionally safe to say that any of their "supporters" are in fact "fanatics." They would have to be in order to generate the suspension of disbelief and maniacal myopia necessary to support either of them. Their flaws are like something straight out of bad fiction, and yet here they are, the first runner up and the winner of the most "powerful job on the planet."

      Hillary is a run-of-the-mill politician. Far from the worst by any stretch of the imagination of someone who actually understand politics. Trump is a run-of-the-mill attention-whoring media animal. Also far fro the worst of the genre.

      Meanwhiile, your shrill denunciations are pretty extreme.

    4. Re:Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      why are we strongly insinuating causality?

      Because of the temporal correlation. Surprised I should need to explain that to you, or did you feign ignorance.

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    5. Re:Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      why are we strongly insinuating causality?

      Because of the temporal correlation. Actually, suspecting rather than insinuating.

      There's no need for that.

      There is a need for that, it is a healthy process of investigation. From the article: "the main IP addresses linked to the attack were found to be Russian." Again, this is just correlation, but it certainly does present the appearance of Russian meddling in American politics in favor of Donald Trump. If so, it amounts to state-sponsored cyber-terrorism. Better to err on the side more public scrutiny rather than less.

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    6. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      There is a good chance a fanatical supporter was involved, but it doesn't eliminate the leadership or a sympathetic friend either.

      In fact, given that "the main IP addresses linked to the attack were found to be Russian", the sympathetic friend theory looks like the winner. However, if the Trump campaign fails to denounce it, then by implication it condones it, and is therefore complicit.

      That said, the strategy is idiotic. I could not imagine any more effective way to get the story trending, as it deserves.

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    7. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Hillary is a run-of-the-mill politician. Far from the worst by any stretch of the imagination...

      Wait, no, there is something truly exceptional about Hillary Clinton: she is a woman. As such, she is on the brink of making history. I also think she has a decent shot at turning in a better than average performance as chief executive. I suspect we will see a considerably more assertive stance re Russian adventurism, for one thing. If not then I suppose I would hope for a quick segue to the next impending historical event, a hispanic CiC.

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    8. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by swalve · · Score: 1

      So quoting the man is an attack piece now? He is accused of light treason. That's something that ought to be investigated without calling it attack at the outset.

    9. Re:Trump's a D-Bag, but... by swalve · · Score: 1

      We all know the difference between Slashdotting and DDoSing. Don't be an idiot.

    10. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of this happening in Russia. Anyone anywhere displeases Putin and there's a hack or DDOS soon after. So it's likely either Trump fans are learning from the Putin fans, or else the Putin jugend are involved.

    11. Re: Trump's a D-Bag, but... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The average "I don't follow politics or world events but I love reality TV!" voters are going to be voting in force.

  9. Alt-Right SNAFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They complain that their 1st Amendment rights are violated (on non-gov websites) when others react to the things they post meanwhile they shut down entire sites with messages they don't like.

  10. DDoS counter-measure? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    Given that DDoS attacks seem to be becoming more accessible, what counter measures are there and can anything in the design of the Internet Protocol be modified, in a non-breaking way, to reduce the risk?

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    1. Re:DDoS counter-measure? by swalve · · Score: 1

      Start blocking subnets and whole continents if necessary.

  11. Re:Donnie poo pays Russian hackers by barakn · · Score: 3, Funny

    This -1 score was brought you today by the letter E... and by paid Russian trolls http://www.businessinsider.com...

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  12. Re:"Hackers" == "Foreign Nationals" by mADneSs · · Score: 1

    Maybe he's just really, really hungry?

  13. who knows what is going on by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    Alternatively, Newsweek may have simply screwed up their servers and decided that blaming it on "Russian hackers" was going to give their story more credence. Or Hillary or her supporters may have engineered such attacks, for the same reason. You can't believe anything these people say.

    1. Re:who knows what is going on by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Nice website you got there. Shame if something should "happen" to it.

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  14. Re:FUD by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Trump controls Isis?

    You mean, he bought them out? No wonder their wages were cut

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  15. Who cares? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    Seriously, who cares? The embargo has more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese. Any American who wanted to go to Cuba just had to go via another country, and they've worked out a scheme with Cuba to prevent it from ever showing up on your passport:

    But that’s not the only way. For decades, despite the embargo, some Americans have been visiting Cuba by way of indirect flights through countries such as Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas. These trips require less paperwork and can cost less than half the official option. An official, state-approved trip from the U.S. can cost between $4,000 and $5,000 for a week. A package including a resort stay and round-trip flights through Canada or another country will cost about $1,290 (or $1,500 Canadian), according to Krytiuk.

    Typically, American travelers book flights to Cuba through a Canadian city or Caribbean hubs such as Nassau, Bahamas, or Cancún, Mexico. From there, every traveler going to Cuba is issued a tourist card for the passport. Upon arrival, Cuban customs agents remove one half of the card, and take the other half upon departure -- leaving no official record of the visit in a traveler’s passport.

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    1. Re:Who cares? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Seriously, who cares?

      Not you, apparently. But law abiding people do.

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    2. Re:Who cares? by swalve · · Score: 1

      Visiting Cuba isn't necessarily violating an embargo. My understanding is that an American citizen can go there if it is for a legitimate purpose and no money is spent on anything beyond basic food and lodging. Paying for a room and a meal? Fine. Buying trinkets and cigars? Not fine.

      Regardless, what you claim has nothing to do with Trump. He is accused of doing business with Cuba through a front company. There is no question but that such activity would be highly illegal.

    3. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He is accused of doing business with Cuba through a front company.

      Did you read the cited article? I did. As I understood it, he was not doing business, but instead making business contacts to get a leg up on competition if the embargo were to be dropped.

      Which isn't to say that it was legal or right or anything, but it sounds like making a mountain out of a molehill.

    4. Re:Who cares? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Seriously, who cares?

      Not you, apparently. But law abiding people do.

      Most countries see the embargo as a violation of the UN charter and international law. So no, it's the people who are obeying the stupid embargo who are violating international law - which is why ALL other countries except Israel violate the illegal embargo. The ONLY countries voting in favor of the embargo 23 years running are the US and Israel.

      The only people benefiting from the embargo are the politicians who are sucking up to the anti-Castro voters in Florida's Little Havana.

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    5. Re:Who cares? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      First, you obviously didn't read the article. The trip was for negotiating business deals once the embargo is lifted. There are plenty of US businesses doing that today, and I don't see you or any other kool-aid drinker getting your panties in a twist about it. You are insulting people's intelligence with your claims.

      Canada has caught US customs pre-clearance agents trying to stop US citizens from going to Cuba. Such interference is a violation of the treaties between Canada and the US, same as any other activity by Americans that runs against Canadian law American exceptionalism - that laws should apply to everyone except America and American businesses - has led to many stupid wars. Now that Putin is doing the same thing in Syria, you get all "oh this is so wrong." It's no more wrong than when you do it.

      If you hadn't set the example, maybe Russia wouldn't have tried to do the same crap.

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    6. Re:Who cares? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Most countries see the embargo as...

      What "most countries" see (according to you) does not trump American law. If you disagree then feel free to act through the channels available to you in a functional democracy, but do not flout the law.

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    7. Re:Who cares? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Most countries see the embargo as...

      What "most countries" see (according to you) does not trump American law. If you disagree then feel free to act through the channels available to you in a functional democracy, but do not flout the law.

      Actually, it does trump American law. Governments around the world, including all functional democracies except Israel, have been pissing openly on the embargo

      . Try to prevent a citizen of any other country from going to Cuba - that's all but 1 other country that obey the embargo. And of course, since we're all about ignoring the embargo, we won't stop anyone from going there, your law be damned. We do it all the time - there are enough Americans ignoring the embargo that it's a fairly big business for some travel agencies. And with no stamp on the passport, how are you going to catch anyone when they re-enter the US? You're not. It's a law that the rest of the world is quite happy to help Americans ignore.

      Where do you think that Cuba gets its hard currency for foreign exchange from? Some of it is from the more than 12,000 Americans who go to Cuba via 3rd countries. That's tens of millions of dollars.

      As for other countries, !.5 million people go to Cuba every year. That's a few billion more bucks. We all also trade with Cuba. So much for your POS embargo. Even Americans don't observe it.

      While we're at it, Cuba has 1.5% of the population living below the poverty line, compared to 14.5% of Americans. And it has lower infant mortality than the US as well. And Constitutionally-guaranteed free medical care for everyone, including free dental. All this despite the embargo.

      In 1976, Cuba's healthcare program was enshrined in Article 50 of the revised Cuban constitution which states "Everyone has the right to health protection and care. The state guarantees this right by providing free medical and hospital care by means of the installations of the rural medical service network, polyclinics, hospitals, preventative and specialized treatment centers; by providing free dental care; by promoting the health publicity campaigns, health education, regular medical examinations, general vaccinations and other measures to prevent the outbreak of disease. All the population cooperates in these activities and plans through the social and mass organizations."

      And

      In 2005, Cuba had 627 physicians and 94 dentists per 100,000 population. That year the United States had 225 physicians and 54 dentists per 100,000 population;

      More doctors, more dentists, all paid for by the public at large. Image how much better they'd be doing today without an embargo?

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  16. Trump and thugs by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Imagine what he'd be able to accomplish as commander in chief.

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  17. Re:IRS by swalve · · Score: 2, Informative

    That IRS thing was determined to be non partisan after all. There was an increase in enforcement of 501c3 orgs, but it happened more or less equally to both sides.

  18. Or 100 other stories they ran this week by raymorris · · Score: 2

    It's also *very* possible that the attack has absolutely nothing to do with that particular story. The site an probably a hundred stories or more just in the past week alone. So far I've heard zero evidence that the attack has anything at all with that particular story or any story about any political jerkoff.

  19. Re:IRS by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

    Even though the IRS itself admitted that they were being partisan (slow-rolling conservative applications)....?

  20. Re:Hillary vs the World or Trump vs America? by swalve · · Score: 1

    You clearly don't understand either candidate.

  21. Re:Awful by swalve · · Score: 1

    Very true; such political ratfucks have been almost solely the domain of the GOP since 1960.

  22. Re:IRS by swalve · · Score: 1

    It wasn't partisan as much as it was profiling. They knew that most of the nonsense filings were centered around a few keywords.

  23. IMHO the embargo was unconstitutional. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    IMHO the Cuban Embargo was an unconstitutional usurpation of power by the Federal Government.

    Think about it: Telling US citizens that they can't go to some place the government doesn't like because they're forbidden to spend US currency there (or spend other "hard" currency they bought with US currency), and going there requires spending money? Shades of the Iron Curtain and Catch-22. (If the US government wants to forbid such a thing and have even a chance of finding a Constitutional authorization, they need to DECLARE WAR against Cuba - and then actively fight it.)

    If a law is unconstitutional, it doesn't exist, and hasn't from the moment of its passage. Why should The Donald obey a non-law?

    But even if you don't believe the law is unconstitutional: The hypocrisy of anti-trump forces zinging him for dealing with Castro just floors me. These are the people who have made - and still make - heroes and heroines of Castro, Che Guevara, Bill Ayers, Angela Davis, and "Hanoi Jane'" Fonda, and a virtue of "Civil Disobedience" to laws they don't think are right, politically correct, or convenient. Do they REALLY think Trump's supporters would be swayed by this argument from THEM? B-)

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    1. Re:IMHO the embargo was unconstitutional. by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      Lots of people break laws they disagree with, whatever.

      What we take issue with are hypocrites who secretly break laws they actively promote and expect others to follow.

      Political crooks like that will promise, pass, and campaign for the thing, while doing it on an industrial level in the down-low.

      Less competition means more for them, and they're okay with using big government to put you little guys away for the same shit they do.

      And you compared this to anti-war activism... man get a clue.

    2. Re:IMHO the embargo was unconstitutional. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      What we take issue with are hypocrites who secretly break laws they actively promote and expect others to follow.

      Political crooks like that will promise, pass, and campaign for the thing, while doing it on an industrial level in the down-low.

      Less competition means more for them, and they're okay with using big government to put you little guys away for the same shit they do.

      You mean like Joe Kennedy, right?

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    3. Re:IMHO the embargo was unconstitutional. by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      Sure, why not.

  24. Just compromised machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    selected mainly due their location. This is so blunt, stupid, and clumsy, that you couldn't even attribute it to the Americans themselves. Anyone who does this sort of thing has access to tens or hundreds of thousands of compromised computers and devices on the Internet, all over the world. You CAN NOT infer who the attacker is from looking the geo-location of the IP.

  25. nationalist american haxx0rz by KingBenny · · Score: 1

    they do exist ... in a separate unique separationist way , wOMGz 8-o ... white men can hack WOMG

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  26. The Mandarin Candidate? by gridsleep764 · · Score: 1

    It may not be proof, but how many people are looking at Donald Trump as the Bolshevik Candidate?

    1. Re:The Mandarin Candidate? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      It may not be proof, but how many people are looking at Donald Trump as the Bolshevik Candidate?

      Don't know how many, but they're right-wing, red baiting, partisan fools.

  27. His 10-year-old son is The Cyber Kid by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Haven't you seen the debate?
    His kid has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable.

    Sadly, that means he's gonna turn into somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.
    Like the rest of us here.

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  28. There WAS that story about edible food wrappers... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    It wasn't the front page story or anything, nor was it publicized anywhere... but I'm sure there are SOME people out there feeling iffy about eating their TwinkiesTM AND the wrapper they came in.

    Iffy enough to DDOS Newsweek?
    Well... their TwinkieTM COULD be thirty-five feet long, weighing approximately six hundred pounds.

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  29. Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Truth isnâ(TM)t.

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    1. Re:Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Truth isn't.

      Yep, "truth is stranger than fiction", as they say. And in this case it definitely is.

      "President Trump". Holy fuck.

      He's a crank, a liar, a con man, and a draft-dodging, narcissistic demagogue. Just wait until he appoints Sarah Palin as Secretary of State and puts Jared Fogle in charge of Child Services. He'd put Hulk Hogan on the one dollar bill and then declare war on Hawaii. He'd annex Canada and pass a law making it illegal to look at the Moon. Then he'd tell the FBI to remove the letter "e" from the English language and burn any book that had page numbers. Thinking about stuff would be punishable by death and Meliana would be declared Queen Emporer of Jupiter. And all that would be on his first day in office. But day 2 is when the crazy stuff would start.

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  30. Before or after they faked the Moon landing? by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Alternatively, Newsweek may have simply screwed up their servers and decided that blaming it on "Russian hackers" was going to give their story more credence. Or Hillary or her supporters may have engineered such attacks, for the same reason. You can't believe anything these people say.

    Was that before or after they faked the Moon landing, setup Oswald as a patsy, sprinkled the chemtrails, harped on the HARP, put the autism GMOs in the vaccines and hidden the evidence of the secret Nazi cities on the Moon by destroying Twin Towers with fluoride in the water?
    Or did it all happen at the same time?

    Inquiring minds would like to know.
    Like for example - your psychiatrist. Or whoever is prescribing them meds you're off again.
    Paranoid delusion.
    Not a laughing matter. Well... mostly. Sometimes. With some people.
    With others it's fucking hilarious!

    Get it? I said hilarious. Hillary...o...US.
    It's a secret message encoded in the English language by the Masonic Lizard People of the New World Order.

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    1. Re:Before or after they faked the Moon landing? by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      You think it's more likely that Russian hackers conspired with Donald Trump to keep Hillary from becoming president by starting a DDOS on Newsweek? That is the nutty conspiracy theory.

      The more realistic theories are that Newsweek screwed up or that some random hackers with a botnet attacked Newsweek for some reason.

      So, you start taking your meds and come down to reality, because you're obviously a conspiracy nut right now.

    2. Re:Before or after they faked the Moon landing? by Jzanu · · Score: 1

      No, Trump just conspired with Russians to boost his personal profits and screw the USA as a whole. Again.

    3. Re:Before or after they faked the Moon landing? by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      No, Trump just conspired with Russians to boost his personal profits and screw the USA as a whole. Again.

      By running a DDOS on Newsweek? Are you fucking kidding? How is that supposed to "boost his personal profits"? DDOS attacks are ineffective in suppressing information. Your conspiracy theory makes no sense whatsoever.

      If Trump were conspiring with the Russians, the Russians could simply release a lot more of the dirt they have on Hillary; and if you are naive enough to think that they don't have any dirt, then they could still fabricate a bunch of believable lies about Russian dealings with Hillary and leak those.

      But the sad fact is that Russia probably prefers dealing with Hillary, a politician who has shown herself to be highly corruptible by foreign governments. It's Hillary that has "screwed the US as a whole", again and again, in her official capacity as SoS and Senator.

  31. In mainstream. A few days after Julian Assange sto by raymorris · · Score: 2

    I have no doubt this story got the most attention in the mainstream press. The attack was also a few days after a Julian Assange story, for example, and Clinton/DNC stories (we know hackers have an interest in the DNC.) Might some hacker respond to a Julian Assange story? Maybe. There's simply no evidence at all as to what the hacker's motive was.

  32. Shhhh, don't tell them by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    they never bother reading it so I've just been drawing squiggles on them and charging $500 bucks for a high detail tattoo.

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  33. Why? by HBI · · Score: 1

    To throw a huge fucking monkey wrench into the machinery of the oligarchy in Washington, that's why. I'd prefer a better instrument, but you use what is at hand.

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  34. People today don't know what fascism is by HBI · · Score: 1

    Anything they don't agree with is fascism. Call me when someone is setting up concentration camps and we can talk.

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  35. What DDOS attack? by golodh · · Score: 1

    Come on! Just because Mr. Trump started chewing out that website by email doesn't mean there's a DDOS attack going on. Mr. Trump is just a Great Emailer like he's Great at everything else.

  36. Re: Sure Marxist by gweihir · · Score: 1

    I disagree strongly. Trump has an excellent record as a first-rate con-man. You know, those that rip you off and then vanish to let you pick up the pieces. My guess would be he will do the same as president.

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  37. Remember 10 days ago? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    You may recall 10 days ago, on Sept 20th, Krebs suffered a major DDOS. It's widely believed that was in retaliation for writing about a professional DDOS company on Sept 8 and Sept 12. He wrote about people who do DDOS for a living, and twelve days later he got hit.

    > Days later when the cover story was something else?

    Yeah, twelve days later, in the case of the most recent major attack, and that's from someone who was already set up to do DDOS. If someone else decides to do a DDOS, it might well take them two weeks or more to get the botnet reserved and paid for and coordinate everything.

    Since it takes a major professional DDOS company twelve days to coordinate and launch an attack, that's evidence that these attackers probably did NOT manage one just a few hours after the Trump story. In all likelihood, they aren't hundreds of times faster than VDOS and friends, so they would have need more than 12 days, not less than one day.

    1. Re:Remember 10 days ago? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Grasping. Heres a fact.

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    2. Re: Remember 10 days ago? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Notice how his mouth looks like a sphinter.

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  38. Not illegal - loans not donations in that case by dbIII · · Score: 1

    If Trump was getting campaign financing from Russia it would be ILLEGAL

    Borrowing money from Russian banks is not illegal.
    It may look bad politically since most of them have close ties to Putin, but there is nothing illegal or even immoral about it.

    It only gets illegal if those debts are "forgiven" in exchange for something and the loans get turned into bribes that way, but that has not happened (and may never happen).
    It's just a very funny thing since it's an action that's pretty well the opposite of the line that Trump has been pushing.


    As for evidence, it's been widely reported but it's not illegal.
    Here's one (from a google search) that cites the Washington Post but it's turned up everywhere - check whatever news source you use:
    http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/yes-the-russians-have-been-funding-donald-trumps-presidential-campaign/25479/

  39. You misspelled oolooney there... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    You think it's more likely that Russian hackers conspired with Donald Trump to keep Hillary from becoming president by starting a DDOS on Newsweek? That is the nutty conspiracy theory.

    BTW, that's a nice canard.
    Not that I'm judging your propensity towards aquatic fowl or its food, but no one is claiming that Putin and Trump actually conspired - just that the Trump is an useful idiot for Putin and Palls.
    No... Wait... YOU ARE THE ONE CLAIMING THAT!
    Cause that's how you looney brain works. Conspiracies everywhere.

    Oh... and BTW... Speaking of "more realistic theories"...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...

    Oh... Looney, Looney, Looney... Whatever would we do without duck fuckers and fish rapers like you?
    Who would we laugh at? Cats? I don't THINK SO...

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    1. Re:You misspelled oolooney there... by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Oh... and BTW... Speaking of "more realistic theories"... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07...

      I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between "Newsweek" and the "DNC", or between "accessing E-mails" and "DDOS attack".

      I have no doubt Russia tries to access the E-mails of all US officials. I have no problem with them trying, it's the job of spy agencies. It's the responsibility of US politicians to make their systems secure, and they shouldn't whine and complain if their dirty laundry gets aired by the Russians.

      Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens

      The sad thing is that you will never understand how apt that quote is as your signature: you are so stupid, you don't even recognize it.