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Guccifer 2.0 Dumps a Bunch of Clinton Foundation Donor Data (engadget.com)
The hacker Guccifer 2.0 today released a large database of information reportedly stolen from the Clinton Foundation. The dump, Engadget reports, includes names, addresses, and emails of both individuals and corporate donors as well as their contribution amounts. From the report: This, of course, isn't the first time Guccifer or his friends at Wikileaks and the Kremlin have attempted to subvert the US political process during this election cycle. Just last month Guccifer released Democratic Vice Presidential nominee, Tim Kaine's personal cell phone number. What's more, nearly half of the country's state voter registration systems have recently come under cyberattack, according to the DHS, though the FBI has not yet determined if those breaches originated in Russia. There are also a number of unanswered questions regarding Republican nominee, Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks. Four House Democrats recently demanded that the FBI investigate the nominee after he "jokingly" suggested that Russia find and release the 33,000 emails reportedly missing from Hillary Clinton's private email server.
And Trump's taxes. 2-for-1 deal!
Table-ized A.I.
I particularly liked:
There are also a number of unanswered questions regarding Republican nominee, Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks
So we're to understand that Trump is running these hacker groups? Hey, I suppose that's better than Hilary who can't even run a secure email server.
I'm also interested in these "unanswered questions"? I suspect the reason they're unanswered is because you haven't asked them. You're just implying that something is amiss about Trump without actually saying what is wrong or making any allegations.
They have a better chance of finding them than our own corrupt / incompetent / paid-for agencies do.
Is sad when you put more trust in a FOREIGN intelligence agency than your own when it comes to matters like this.
"Guccifer or his friends at Wikileaks and the Kremlin"
Just tell us what happened without participating in the propaganda will you? This is embarrassing for all reporters.
I'm so glad that: "Four House Democrats recently demanded that the FBI investigate the nominee after he 'jokingly' suggested that Russia find and release the 33,000 emails reportedly missing from Hillary Clinton's private email server."
I mean, that's the real crime--not what Hillary did. It's very important that the FBI get to the bottom of this--though maybe it will at least keep them too busy to be destroying more evidence that could indict a Clinton.
He implies there is some sort of correlation to banks making donations, and tarp funds being distributed. Does $1000 seem like an appropriate bribe for a billion dollars? And since when does the secretary of state have any impact on where tarp funds are distributed? And what's the freaking point when this money is used for charity anyhow, it's not like they are buying paintings of themselves with it.
(If at first you don't succeed, do it different next time!)
You guys are making lots of fun of this, and maybe it's all false alarm, but then again some foreign intelligence agency might indeed try to massively influence your elections. I wouldn't consider that funny if I were you.
The article has been updated with:
The Clinton Foundation has denied the validity of Guccifer 2.0's claims. Speaking to Politico, a foundation representative said, "Once again, we still have no evidence Clinton Foundation systems were breached and have not been notified by law enforcement of an issue. None of these folders or files shown are from the Clinton Foundation." And, as Buzzfeed Senior Technology Reporter, Joe Bernstein, points out, it's highly unlikely that the foundation would name its own folder "Pay to Play."
If this is the case, all of you people who are still looking to stick a crime on Hillary will have to look somewhere else.
I am so sick and tired of hearing about how Russia is trying to "subvert our election." Annoyed enough to bother logging in and not posting AC.
Yes, we get it, there are nebulous rumors of how the Russians are trying to "subvert our democracy." But it's just fluff: the bottom line is that what Hillary and the Democrats have done is at best unethical, if not strictly illegal.
Who cares who revealed it? If they weren't acting unethically, there would be no issue. But they are, and that's why it's a problem, and trying to bring Russia into this is purely a smokescreen.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
wiped (or had) with a cloth and bleachBit
What the fuck do you people think BleachBit is?
Isn't it what you pour in the bit bucket to get all your ones pearly white?
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
I think it was in Bruce Schneiers most recent newsletter, that there is always the risk of something artificial and damaging being added to otherwise original, authentic material, on the basis that if 99% of it it's true, it would be nearly impossible for anyone to say that other 1% isn't true either. Maybe it wasn't him, but I definitely read it somewhere and it really was interesting food for thought.
Actually she had a duty to preserve all documents related to her job as SoS. Of course, she conveniently forgot that she had any such requirement due to a head injury, of which she is still suffering effects. All of which should keep her out of any position in government for the rest her life, but people like you continue to try to minimize the crimes she has committed.
As for having ANY classified email on her home brew, basement dwelling server is also a crime (she sent and received )
As for deleting her server after it was subpoenaed is ALSO a crime.
If she is investigated for murder, it won't be because of some kid having SIDS in Kansas. There are plenty of murders of people that she was quite familiar with, which might have some relationship to her. Cute though.
Trump has his own issues, and people limited to binary choices rarely choose well. Vote 3rd Party.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
According to the American Institute of Philanthropy, which gave the Clinton Foundation an "A" rating, the Clinton Foundation spends only 12% of the money it raises on overhead. Politifact has a good rundown on this: http://www.politifact.com/trut... . Do some research before making wild claims, don't just go with wisdom from the blogosphere.
Does Trump actually have any criminal convictions? I looked, but couldn't find any in the sea of misinformation out there.
Also, there is a difference between deleting a copy of classified material (to prevent that copy from becoming compromised), and deleting the *only* copy of classified material (preventing our own government from having access to it).
I think the accusation is that she has done the latter. Since she shouldn't have had a private email server to begin with, deleting the emails from the server should have certainly happened eventually, but not while the only copy of those emails resided on that private server.
Deleting all the emails isn't a crime, and if she's "guilty" of storing confidential emails, deleting them is her duty.
WHAT?!!! Uh, NO .
If you ever hold a security clearance, the proper procedure for dealing with classified information leaks will be drilled into you. The very first thing you get taught - repeatedly - is you do not delete classified information if it leaks.
The process is pretty simple: you disconnect from the network, go into "airplane mode" if necessary, and then immediately stop using the machine. You don't delete anything, you don't close any open programs, you immediately call the security people and you let them clean up the mess.
This leaves a paper trail. But it also makes sure that the information spill is known, that how far it leaks is known, and that any potential spill to uncleared individuals is known.
So if Hillary did delete emails with classified information, she - well, broke procedure. I have no idea if it's a law or just an official process. But there's a process and procedure for dealing with classified information leaks, and deleting anything is 100% not it.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
Informing the public about who's paying bribes to which Ruling Party candidates isn't subverting the process, it's benefitting the process.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
When TFA relates to another post (like in this case to Guccifer's "leak"), it would be good to have a direct link to that too.
Specially if TFA is clearly trying to steer people away from information that it is talking about.
1) Obstruction of justice. Doesn't matter whether the emails contain evidence or not. Law enforcement requested them and you destroyed them. This is a crime.
2) Destruction of federal property. The emails belong to the government. You destroyed them. This is a crime.
Pretty sure the IRS is PERFECTLY capable of catching and dealing with people caught cheating with their taxes. This is a non issue.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
No that was perfectly Legal AT THE TIME.
I honestly don;t know the law well enough to have an opinion on whether her use of a private email server was illegal or not. It does seem as if it was against the governments own rules for it's own employees. And despite dancing around it, it seems Hillary has finally also admitted this (without any qualifications).
The FBI director explained his rationale for not indicting her, and it certainly wasn't that she did nothing wrong. My impression was that they have discretion over who they decide to indict, and choosing not to indict Hillary was in keeping with similar cases of treating classified material with negligence (as opposed to intentionally selling the information to Russians, etc.)
It seems to me like there is a legal gray area where someone might have broken the law but because they were not convicted, are not criminals.
Can you cite a source for your assertion that the FBI read all the "missing" emails? I'd be interested to read it.
Actually she had a duty to preserve all documents related to her job as SoS.
She had a duty to delete confidential material. She did as required, and is accused of a crime of deleting documents, when she was required to, by law.
No, she has no such duty. Her duty is to stop using the machine and hand it over to the appropriate security officers to investigate the extent of the leak.
Stop just making shit up. It does nobody any good to just spout lie after lie after lie. I can see why you like her so much, though!
If Trump did not follow the law it would have been prosecuted and we would have a verdict. There is no such thing, and that fact bothers the shit out of people like you who find facts an inconvenience.
From 3 pages of taxes in the 1990s we have gleaned 1 fact, that Trump took a loss. Everything else is speculation. The one troll I saw on a similar post yesterday simply denied facts and claimed that the 90s were some great economic boom. Again FACTS can be used to prove that troll wrong.
Meanwhile, Hillary is guilty of several laws which the FBI has simply refused to prosecute her for. We know that the FBI gave complete immunity to staffers, the guy who setup and ran the Exchange server, and his boss had a secret meeting with the suspects husband and former ex President the Friday before the Monday dismissal. We KNOW that the DNC has been colluding with mass media to promote Hillary and we know that they used their influence to shove Bernie down in the elections.
I have plenty of things I could complain about with Trump too, but with all the media bullshit there is no way my complaint would ever be viewed as valid. Telling a crowd that maybe they can protect their 2nd amendment rights was turned into "Trump claimed Kill Hillary", and Trump satirically saying "maybe Russia can release those emails she deleted" became "Trump claimed he wanted Russia to hack America", and the Russian influence in the DNC and Clinton foundation are ignored, but "Trump loves Putin".
It is so contrived I honestly no longer feel like I'm living in my own Country.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
She has the full force of the Russians bearing down on her, trying to get Trump elected, and they had to resort to faking a leak. If they really couldn't find anything on her, and they don't have any political American overseers or bribes or whatever, Clinton might actually be better than we thought. God knows what would happen if these same hackers rooted around Donald Trump's stuff....
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
You're just making shit up. The problem for you is, her narrative has been that she didn't know any of it was classified -- the "I was too stupid" defense.
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He's mocking both Hillary and Trump. Hillary from when she was playing clueless old lady and 'joked' about wiping her server with a cloth when accused of deleting emails(which of course later turned out to be true), and Trump from thinking Bleachbit was a chemical that destroys hard drives.
Doubt it.
Apparently these aren't actually Clinton Foundation Docs at all, they're from previous hacks. There also seems to be some deliberate bullshit thrown in.
I'm not a fan of the corporate media, but they do tend to be more reliable then shit created by an ex-spy whose country invented Maskirovska.
Every Post in this chain made up a fact to make it a crime.
Stop just making shit up. You Too!
The Investigation was After the fact, not during.
the machine was out of service when it was requested.
The Machine was not requested till later.
If she was smart like the Bush Whitehouse, she would have destroyed the machine.
No telling what was on that one.
You Guys act like she was the only one doing this.
No.
>The timeline is that she was investigeated for Benghazi, and while being investigated, noticed improper emails. She wipes the improper emails, then later there's an investigation into the improper emails. The "evidence" was already destroyed, back before it was evidence.
The evidence was wiped after the state department asked for her emails:
âoeWe learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server,â he continued. âoeWhile it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.â (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/416125/hillary-clinton-defies-subpoena-wiped-her-server-clean-joel-gehrke)
And then after they found an archive of the emails after the subpeona, illegally destroyed the evidence AFTER it was evidence:
"On March 4, 2015, the House subpoenaed all emails from Clintonâ(TM)s personal servers, including a document preservation order.
PRN staff member X had a âoeconference call with President Clintonâ(TM)s staffâ on March 25, 2015, after which â" sometime between March 25th and 31st â" âoehe had an âoh shitâ(TM) moment,â when he realized he had forgotten to wipe clean the PRN server as he had been instructed to do by Mills in December 2014.
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At some point during those six days, PRN wiped the server clean using BleachBit â" despite the subpoena from the House earlier in the same month.
In fact, PRN staff member X admitted to deleting the remaining emails despite being âoeaware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clintonâ(TM)s e-mail data on the PRN server.â" (http://thedailycoin.org/2016/09/04/clinton-email-server-wiped-after-her-subpoena/)
This is direct destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice, so naturally the FBI gave immunity deals to the people responsible, who then turned around and say Hill Dawg had nothing to do with it. It is fantastic (and I don't mean that in the good sense) how this investigation was conducted.
The Clinton foundation has been called "a slush fund by Sunlight Foundation — a "progressive" foundation promoting nonprofit transparency.
Additionally:
Last year, Charity Navigator, a nonprofit watchdog that rates charities, put the Clinton Foundation on its “watch list” as a warning to potential contributors because so much Clinton Foundation money was going to salaries, overhead and luxury travel rather than to fulfilling its stated mission.
Wrong, as Sec State she set's the policies implementing the federal Laws pertaining to the protection of Classified information. But she is not able to just approve her own setup. She set's the policies, the IT and security depts. then implement them.
Stop trying to defend the indefensible. The moment classified information touched her unclassified system it became classified and property of the Government and the responsibility of the Security and IT depts. to clean and clear before returning to her. She broke the law. Her position did not exempt her from the law.
I'm too lazy to compose a creative sig.
No she was not authorized to approve her own email server. This was clearly written down in Obama and previous policy. Before you bring up Powel and his use of AOL he had written permission from outside the department of state to use it, and he was under rules that had changed after he left.
You are also wrong about the "authorized person" what that gave her as secretary of state was control over DoS generated material. She was not authorized to take material from DoD and decide it was unclassified. She was not authorized to decide what to government documents she had to turn over, federal law decides that. Go read US Code Title 18 for more info, don't believe this stuff you copied from hillarys web site and has been disproven in federal hearings.
"This, of course, isn't the first time Guccifer or his friends at Wikileaks and the Kremlin have attempted to subvert the US political process during this election cycle."
1) Not a single shred or iota of evidence has been shown to substantiate a case that the DNC hacks or Wikileaks were the actions of Russia.
2) The leaker is NOT the one interfering or subverting the US political process. Rather, they are merely showing that Hillary and her corrupt cohorts are doing so.
3) Hillary is a sociopath who in the first debate essentially threatened war with a nuclear power over in order to cover up her DNC scandal. Frankly, even Trump isn't that scary.
4) I think every one with half a brain (which probably leaves the poster out) understood Trump's comment about maybe having Russia find Hillary's missing emails was satire, and a jest at her public accusation of the Russians without any provided proof. Guess what, in America that is illegal. In fact, I think the Russian government should file a personal lawsuit against Hillary for slander.
"What's more, nearly half of the country's state voter registration systems have recently come under cyberattack, according to the DHS"
Why is that? Could it be because so many apparently dropped a crap ton of Bernie Sanders supporters from the voter rolls? And hackers are trying to find out how and by whom?
"Donald Trump's, connection to these attacks."
Donald Trump's connection is that he has seen them talked about in the media, and seen a very stupid Hillary accuse Russia of the attacks. That's it...
And the OP is a damnable moron for trying to seek more from it. I mean really, why the hell is anyone more upset about the hacks than the illegal and corrupt actions on the part of Hillary's cohorts? This is like the hacker who retrieved the photos to prove the rape case, but faces 10x the sentence for doing so than the rapists. WTF.
"Four House Democrats recently demanded that the FBI investigate the nominee after he "jokingly" suggested that Russia find and release the 33,000 emails reportedly missing from Hillary Clinton's private email server."
Well gee, considering the FBI is in Hillary's pants as are those four Democrats. I mean, the FBI basically came out and said "We found gross negligence and multiple violations, but because it is Hillary we are not going to prosecute." And this occurred shortly after a chance meeting between the Attorney General and Bill Clinton, which was no frigging change meeting.
Sorry, Hillary and Trump are both unacceptable candidates for presidency.
Trump is an arrogant bigoted asshole.
Hillary is a corrupt lying oligarchist warmonger.
False.
Please point to the word "willful" in the text of the law. Here, I'll quote it for you:
18 USC 793 (f):
Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
I'll give you a hint - you can't be 'willfully negligent' because it's not negligence if you do it on purpose.
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