Microsoft Is Redesigning the Paint App For Windows 10 (theverge.com)

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Microsoft Is Redesigning the Paint App For Windows 10 (theverge.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Friday October 7, 2016 @07:00PM from the stick-figures dept.

Microsoft is redesigning the Paint app with Windows 10 in mind. As mentioned in the leaked video posted by Twitter user WalkingCat, the "ability to create in 3D" is one of the biggest new features in the works. The Verge reports: A launch video notes that the new "Paint Preview" app includes all the familiar features of the regular version of Paint, but Microsoft is adding in 3D object support. Paint Preview users will be able to create 3D objects, and annotate them freely. Microsoft has a range of markers and art tools to help artists create objects, and brushes that can be used directly on 3D objects. All of the tools appear to be pen- and touch-friendly, with an interface that mixes 3D models, 2D images, stickers, and community tools for 3D content. Microsoft appears to be testing early "alpha" versions of the Paint app, and the videos indicate it could be ready to be released publicly soon. The timing of the Paint videos come just hours after Microsoft revealed it's planning to hold a special event in New York City later this month. Microsoft is widely expected to unveil a new Surface device at the event, with rumors suggesting it will be an all-in-one desktop PC.

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But by alzoron · 2016-10-07 19:04 · Score: 4, Funny

If they make Paint better then I can't blame my bad drawings on my refusal to buy or download a decent program.
1. Re:But by negRo_slim · 2016-10-07 19:11 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Don't worry it doesn't sound like they are making it better at all.
  
  Layers > 3D content
  
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2. Re:But by freeze128 · 2016-10-07 19:12 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Don't worry. We all understand that as technology improves, and programs start to do amazing things, there will still always be people with no talent.
3. Re:But by colincarter41 · 2016-10-07 19:17 · Score: 1
  
  Adding too many features will confuse user, hope Microsoft will make it easy of use, so even a child can use paint app.
4. Re:But by flyingfsck · 2016-10-07 19:23 · Score: 2
  
  Now, all the MBAs will think they can do CAD.
  
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5. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:02 · Score: 0
  
  You will have to start doing ASCII art with notepad as the new Paint will be a separate download and one needs to pay a monthly lease for using it.
6. Re:But by OolimPhon · 2016-10-07 20:37 · Score: 1
  
  ...so even a child can use paint app.
  But that still makes it too difficult for Marketing.
7. Re:But by AHuxley · 2016-10-07 20:45 · Score: 1
  
  16 bit support and layers with a nice GUI?
  Photoshop version history
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  
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8. Re:But by nnull · 2016-10-07 20:47 · Score: 1
  
  Why not? They already think they can fix machines.
9. Re:But by Kjella · 2016-10-07 22:49 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Hand an artist a pencil and he'll do amazing things. I have a friend that can do a fantastic touch screen drawing in less than a minute just to send a Snapchat joke. Sure using MS Paint instead of Photoshop would be like running with a lead vest, but I don't think you're fooling anyone by blaming the tools. It'd be like blaming poor code on the lack of an IDE, would anyone here buy that? No. Unless you're talking to a PHB, in which case you can blame whatever you want.
  
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10. Re:But by donaldm · 2016-10-07 22:52 · Score: 1
  
  16 bit support and layers with a nice GUI? Photoshop version history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  
  That is nice but you do know that you have to pay for the product unless you are the type of person who likes to have that jolly green parrot on their shoulders. Me I will stick to The GIMP since I don't have to worry about a parrot doing it's business on my shoulders.
  
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11. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 00:02 · Score: 0
  
  If you work with graphics for a living, Photoshop is worth the money, or you can do as I have done and make your employer purchase a copy for you. GIMP, on the other hand, is garbage. Let me rephrase that. "GIMP is PURE FUCKING GARBAGE." The worst graphics program I've ever used and that includes classics on the old Commodore Amiga like Deluxe Paint, Brilliance, DCTV, and ImageFX. Not just because GIMP has a terrible UI and lacks essential features like adjustment/style layers and script-free automation, but because GIMP is the slowest in its class. I'm not just talking about how long it takes to start up or the lack of graphics acceleration leading to having to watch re-positioned layers slowly redraw. I'm talking about every applied filter often taking twice as long. Even the undo feature is slow. Not to mention it's a memory hog.
  The real alternative to Photoshop for those on a budget? Paint Shop Pro, which is awesome and completely blows GIMP out of the water in every way.... is still just 80 bucks. Can't beat that.
12. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 00:27 · Score: 0
  
  It'd be like blaming poor code on the lack of an IDE, would anyone here buy that?
  Because they have first-hand experience with it, and so know that without an IDE, it's easier to make mistakes and harder to track them down?
13. Re:But by SeriousTube · 2016-10-08 01:09 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Or paint.net which is free and actually has an easy understandable gui.
14. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 02:31 · Score: 0
  
  Looks like we found ourselves the PHB!
15. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 02:43 · Score: 0
  
  I'm sure the improvements will include all kinds of tracking "features" as well.
16. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 02:56 · Score: 0
  
  Wrong. If you work with graphics for a living, Photoshop is a minor part of the toolchain and probably the least used program. Most anything could be used in its place, such as Gimp or Paint.net.
17. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 04:13 · Score: 0
  
  This update isn't likely to make your shitty drawings better, it's more likely to let you create shitty drawings while wearing your Hololens device, IMHO.
18. Re:But by omtinez · 2016-10-08 06:46 · Score: 1
  
  The best part? paint.net was made by a Microsoft intern as a summer project. I have no idea why Microsoft did not choose to take over the project and ship it, even if it was alongside of paint.
19. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 08:11 · Score: 0
  
  You sir are an idiot then.
20. Re:But by nnull · 2016-10-08 08:29 · Score: 1
  
  And this is the sad thing about photo editing applications in linux.
  
  Krita takes a step forward, but it still has stupid details that annoy the crap out of me, like you know, PRINTING? Krita's excuse for this is, I quote, "We also removed the print and print preview options; printing in Krita has never worked well, and after porting to Qt5 broke completely.". Yeah, that makes PERFECT SENSE! Then trying to put text into an image, what FUN!
  
  So guess what I do? Vmware and Photoshop, because image editing or anything art related in linux just sucks ass and has sucked for 15 years or more. So I just laugh at people who claim that they use Gimp all the time, because I can't even use Gimp for simple photo manipulation because it's just dog slow for high megapixel images that even camera phones now have. The time it takes Gimp to wake up with some simple manipulation (Layers? lol), I'm already done doing what I want in vmware -> photoshop.
  
  I like and I do want to continue to use linux, but there are simply certain software that the opensource community has not been able to match or beat the commercial alternatives. That and the fact that there is no commercial development for said software for linux just hurts the community even more. I hope that changes.
21. Re: But by Billly+Gates · 2016-10-08 11:29 · Score: 1
  
  Why can't someone port paint.net which is open source and MIT licensed to mono?
  
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22. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 12:03 · Score: 0
  
  And you sir are not a graphics artist. Photoshop is used for touchup work only. It fulfills a minor role in the artistic process that can easily be accomplished with Gimp, Paint.net, Photo-Paint, PaintShop Pro or the like.
  Of course you'll just hurl insults because you don't know what you are talking about.
23. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 12:08 · Score: 0
  
  That is basically what Pinta is, however Paint.net hasn't been open source for quite some time now because the author doesn't understand that it's ok for open source software to be modified, forked and developed by people other than him.
24. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 13:37 · Score: 0
  
  Nope, He is not and i can confirm that when working with Pixel, Vector or Sprite graphics, any editor capable of exporting to the desired format will do.
  It's all about preference and availability.
  You have access to Photoshop, you were either taught or self educated in the use of it, and as a result you have a preference for it.
  You yourself are indeed a idiot.
25. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 15:07 · Score: 0
  
  Wow, just wow. You know you can't trust a thing that is in Wikipedia when you see an outright lie like "first cross platform software" for a version of Photoshop made in 1992. Cross platform software existed at least a decade before then in reality.
26. Re:But by arglebargle_xiv · 2016-10-08 20:42 · Score: 1
  
  They should just take Paint.NET, rename it Paint for Windows 10, and be done with it. And as you point out, adding a 3D option to a piece of crap is about as useful as filming a crap movie in 3D. Or, as one t-shirt pointed out, "if you can't make it good, make it 3D".
27. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-09 04:05 · Score: 0
  
  I assume you dutifully paid for your Photoshop and OS-in-VM licenses.
  Otherwise your comments would be equivalent to somebody complaining about
  regular cars and then steeling a Ferrari or whatever to have the presumed
  better driving experience.
28. Re:But by MercTech · 2016-10-10 09:19 · Score: 1
  
  And they will probably drop support for my most common use of MS Paint; saving a window screen print to a jpeg to document errors in the OS.
  
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Paint is a joke by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 19:14 · Score: 1

Use "Paint.net" instead. Microsoft made the most pathetic and basic paint program possible when they had the programmers available to make photoshop-league art tools. If they thought paint was an expectable tool to ship then frankly, I don't want to hear about any so-called improvements that they're going to make on it.
1. Re:Paint is a joke by Dracos · 2016-10-07 19:27 · Score: 0, Flamebait
  
  Paint, Notepad, cmd.exe. Super basic tools on Windows have always been pathetic, because Windows is not meant to be productive right out of the box.
2. Re:Paint is a joke by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2016-10-07 20:22 · Score: 1
  
  When people buy an appliance rather than a computer, they get what they get.
  
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3. Re:Paint is a joke by Calydor · 2016-10-07 21:40 · Score: 2
  
  You know, if Microsoft was specifically selling MSPaint as an image editor, then you would have a point. But it is a basic tool to perform basic tasks from the people who made the operating system. If you want advanced features, then you go and buy something like Photoshop from the guys who make a living making an image editor.
  
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4. Re: Paint is a joke by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 23:41 · Score: 0
  
  Had they intended to make it productive out of the box they would have been sued by even more industry cockroaches than they already were.
5. Re:Paint is a joke by drinkypoo · 2016-10-08 00:40 · Score: 1
  
  Paint, Notepad, cmd.exe. Super basic tools on Windows have always been pathetic, because Windows is not meant to be productive right out of the box.
  Often those programs are pathetic because their source code or big pieces of them are used as examples. I don't know if that ever happened to MS Paint. But you don't want to throw effort at them in that case.
  
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6. Re:Paint is a joke by Mashiki · 2016-10-08 02:09 · Score: 1
  
  Considering that cmd.exe is technically depreciated and is meant to be a "last line" when everything else breaks, that doesn't really make much sense does it. The world moved on from command.com in the early 00's when 16bit went bye-bye from modern OS's.
  
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7. Re: Paint is a joke by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 02:46 · Score: 0
  
  Now that they use offshore and H1-B Indians for everything, pathetic and basic is all they're capable of in terms of software development.
8. Re:Paint is a joke by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 03:46 · Score: 0
  
  What about PaintBrush? Windows 3.1 forever!
9. Re:Paint is a joke by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 03:54 · Score: 0
  
  Here's for those of us with a foggy memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL6kjj_EaDc
10. Re:Paint is a joke by tsa · 2016-10-08 07:44 · Score: 1
  
  16 bits ought to be enough for everybody.
  
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11. Re: Paint is a joke by Billly+Gates · 2016-10-08 11:31 · Score: 1
  
  Hey I know this is slashdot where using old win32 tech and bashing ms is cool, but PowerShell is a worthy and modern CLI.
  In many ways nicer than bash as it's object oriented and digs into azure, VMware esx, and wmi.
  
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12. Re:Paint is a joke by Mashiki · 2016-10-08 22:40 · Score: 1
  
  16 bits ought to be enough for everybody.
  That moment when you remember that 16 kB expander cartridges were a thing.
  
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Better replacement already available by saiful76 · 2016-10-07 19:16 · Score: 4, Insightful

There's already a better replacement available: Paint.NET http://www.getpaint.net/ This tool is almost equivalent of what Notepad++ can do compared to Windows Notepad.
1. Re:Better replacement already available by wonkey_monkey · 2016-10-07 21:45 · Score: 1
  
  That's a replacement for the old Paint. It doesn't do what the new Paint can do.
  
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2. Re:Better replacement already available by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 22:48 · Score: 0
  
  You're right, it does more.
3. Re:Better replacement already available by drinkypoo · 2016-10-08 00:38 · Score: 1
  
  That's a replacement for the old Paint. It doesn't do what the new Paint can do.
  The new Paint is a new thing and shouldn't be called Paint. Paint.NET is the clear successor to Paint.
  
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4. Re:Better replacement already available by Hognoxious · 2016-10-08 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  They should bring out Paint Classic.
  
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5. Re:Better replacement already available by Billly+Gates · 2016-10-08 08:30 · Score: 1
  
  Unix port?
  It is open source and part of it was able to compile in Mono under Linux. What happened? Slashdotters would take it more seriously if they could run it on Linux. I wonder if it uses some proprietary .NET SDK that is not in Mono.
  
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6. Re:Better replacement already available by Bathroom+Humor · 2016-10-10 09:26 · Score: 1
  
  There is Pinta, which aspires to be a unofficial port of paint.net. But it is slow coming, and many features aren't present that are in paint.net. But it's WAY better than almost anything else, aside from Gimp (but it's way easier to pick up and use).
Wow by fph+il+quozientatore · 2016-10-07 19:22 · Score: 0

Paint redesigned? Wow! What a great time to be alive. These are truly the killer features.

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1. Re:Wow by mwvdlee · 2016-10-07 19:44 · Score: 1
  
  They could have changed it 10 years ago and nobody would have noticed.
  
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2. Re:Wow by thegarbz · 2016-10-07 22:50 · Score: 1
  
  You jest, but what is needed in all computers when you first unbox them to make them useful?
  Steam + Office + some kind of image editor.
3. Re:Wow by thinkwaitfast · 2016-10-08 01:06 · Score: 1
  
  I've never used any of those. How about a development environment. Even gwbasic.
4. Re:Wow by tepples · 2016-10-08 02:22 · Score: 1
  
  Without an image editor, how do you make icons for the graphical application that you make in the development environment?
5. Re:Wow by DMFNR · 2016-10-08 03:55 · Score: 1
  
  REM Like this?
  SCREEN 7
  FOR y = 1 TO 16
  FOR x = 1 TO 16
  READ z
  PSET (x, y), z
  NEXT
  NEXT
  
  And a whole bunch of DATA commands?
6. Re:Wow by thegarbz · 2016-10-08 04:59 · Score: 1
  
  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most people are not developers.
7. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 07:05 · Score: 0
  
  Most developers aren't developers.
8. Re:Wow by driblio · 2016-10-08 07:37 · Score: 1
  
  I see what you did there!
  Some people noticed. Things like png support and proper resizing have made it a vastly more useful quick tool post-XP.
9. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 12:19 · Score: 0
  
  No thanks. I prefer my systems to remain clear of DRM platforms like Steam and shitty productivity suites like Office.
RootkitRevealer: resume development of this tool by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 19:23 · Score: 0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"RootkitRevealer is a proprietary freeware tool for rootkit detection on Microsoft Windows by Bryce Cogswell and Mark Russinovich. It runs on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 (32-bit-versions only). Its output lists Windows Registry and file system API discrepancies that may indicate the presence of a rootkit. It is the same tool that triggered the Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal."
Last release - 1.7 / November 1, 2006; 9 years ago
You are out of paint buckets... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 19:24 · Score: 0

You can use the paint bucket tool again in 15 minutes.
To skip the wait, watch a 30 second ad for the new Microsoft HoloLens (legal disclaimer: no actual holograms involved) or purchase a Paint PRO license for only $9.99/yr to unlock unlimited paint buckets and two new innovative line widths: 7 pixels and 12 pixels!
1. Re: You are out of paint buckets... by BlytheBowman · 2016-10-07 20:52 · Score: 1
  
  The sad part is, they will probaly do this. In about 10 years, expect crap like :::clicks shutdown computer::: "You are out of shutdown passes. You can pay $30 a year for unlimited shutdowns, or watch this 3 minute ad to shut down your computer for 'free'."
simple fix by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 19:27 · Score: 0

I'm using the Win-XP MSPaint.exe on Windows 7. A rare Microsoft program that actually does what you ask it to.
I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Indy1 · 2016-10-07 19:33 · Score: 5, Insightful

Not like there's a billion other things that 10 needs fixed.
The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
20+ years of bloat keeps stacking up higher and higher.
But M$ decides they need to reinvent the wheel..er paint. Genius idea there!

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1. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by hcs_$reboot · 2016-10-07 19:57 · Score: 1
  
  Well, otoh there is probably only one or two engineers assigned to that task...
  
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2. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:11 · Score: 1
  
  In corporations of Microsoft scale, nothing new is done by one or two people. First there will be a three layer management staff with their assistants and yes-men and each manager will get at least seven underlings. After two years of re-inventing the wheel and countless useless UX experiments the corporation will lay off the staff and buy a horribly expensive startup company that has powerpoint slides of a similar software. After company merger, they will lay off the staff from startup and start from phase one again.
3. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:24 · Score: 0
  
  Every time they've tried to fix things recently they've just succeeded in adding confusing bloat (eg control panel was ok, then they added charms and spread settings all over the shop so now we have a horrible mess), so we should probably be thankful when they decide not to "fix" important things.
  That said, I suspect I'm going to miss having a nice, simple, functional and free paint program. Paint: it's been good to know you, you will be missed.
4. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:55 · Score: 0
  
  Hang on... aren't there dozens upon dozens of far better graphics applications than MS-Paint?
  Oh, but its Windows 10, so next month, or the month after, MS-Paint will be the ONLY graphics app allowed, ALL others will be forced off and uninstalled without any user input.
  Hmm, I'm starting to understand their strategy here... and a pattern emerges...
5. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 21:06 · Score: 0
  
  Who's paying for this?
6. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 21:07 · Score: 0
  
  Unpopular opinion, but I haven't any issues with the GUI. Is bashing W10 still the cool thing around here?
7. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by hcs_$reboot · 2016-10-07 21:13 · Score: 1
  
  So you're telling me that "paint" was made by more than 1 engineer?
  
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8. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by hcs_$reboot · 2016-10-07 21:16 · Score: 1
  
  Your windows licenses.
  
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9. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Misagon · 2016-10-07 21:42 · Score: 1
  
  Well, otoh there is probably only one or two engineers assigned to that task...
  That would still be one or two more engineers than quality assurance of Windows updates.
  
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10. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by thegarbz · 2016-10-07 22:49 · Score: 1
  
  That's quite interesting since what you're talking about is either not broken or by design.
  
  The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
  The only problem is the jarring differences between the settings and control panel. The rest of the GUI is pretty much windows 7 with some weird tiles no one uses in the start menu.
  
  Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
  ... agreed.
  
  Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
  I assume you mean the inability to control it. This is by design. Throwing resources at a system that is broken by a policy decision won't do anything because effectively Windows Update is finished according to what they want. They need a conceptual change before they throw programmers to fix a problem.
  
  20+ years of bloat keeps stacking up higher and higher.
  Now this one is absolute garbage. Most of the bloat in Windows 10 is new. If anything the last 10 years has shown each successive version of windows getting a substantial re-writes using less resources and running overall leaner. Even with the *new* crud Windows 10 uses far less resources than it's predecessors and the benchmarks show improvements in software for end users, I/O, and Network traffic as a result too.
11. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by donaldm · 2016-10-07 23:09 · Score: 1
  
  Unpopular opinion, but I haven't any issues with the GUI. Is bashing W10 still the cool thing around here?
  The Windows 10 GUI is fine although IMHO not as nice or as customisable as my KDE desktop. What I don't like, are all the so called privacy features that are "on" by default unless you do something about them and even then are you really sure you have locked down Windows 10 especially after the latest mandatory update?
  
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12. Re: I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 23:44 · Score: 1
  
  You do realize this is not an iOS discussion right?
13. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 03:06 · Score: 0
  
  "Windows Update continues to be horribly broken."
  The update mechanism is broken and fails to work on all systems. There are many times when it just hangs.
14. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 03:59 · Score: 0
  
  I'm pretty sure they have a few teams working on that other stuff.
15. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by ConceptJunkie · 2016-10-08 05:11 · Score: 1
  
  Whereas I'm sure there are 500 designers involved in the "flat UI" look, doing everything in their power to make Windows 10 look like Windows 2.
  
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16. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Hognoxious · 2016-10-08 09:53 · Score: 1
  
  Shut the FUCK up, Lennart.
  
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17. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 11:08 · Score: 0
  
  Not like there's a billion other things that 10 needs fixed.
  The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
  Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
  Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
  20+ years of bloat keeps stacking up higher and higher.
  But M$ decides they need to reinvent the wheel..er paint. Genius idea there!
  Are you mentally ill?
18. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 11:09 · Score: 0
  
  Not like there's a billion other things that 10 needs fixed.
  The GUI is a confusing cluster fuck.
  Windows "Apps" are a joke, and need to be killed.
  Windows Update continues to be horribly broken.
  20+ years of bloat keeps stacking up higher and higher.
  But M$ decides they need to reinvent the wheel..er paint. Genius idea there!
  Are _you_ mentally ill?
19. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-09 18:16 · Score: 0
  
  no, its just very popular because windows 10 actually is a colossal cluster fuck. its internally inconsistent. its contradictory. its over-complicated. theres like 7-8 separate windows GUI frameworks being used at THE SAME TIME.
  its a mess.
20. Re:I guess they don't have any thing better to do by WallyL · 2016-10-10 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  So you're trying to tell me that it had any engineers work on that piece of software?
Reminds me of a classic forum thread by ace123 · 2016-10-07 19:40 · Score: 2

Lightwave vs Notepad: http://web.archive.org/web/200...
This was back after XP came out and Notepad was starting to experience some feature creep in XP Notepad, like the view menu or the ability to edit unicode files. I don't think anyone expected one of the classic windows apps like mspaint to actually get 3d support.
How is it possible by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:13 · Score: 1

How is it possible that one of the biggest software companies in the world makes such a useless app like paint always was.
At Last by AashishPahwa · 2016-10-07 20:17 · Score: 1

I'd been waiting for this update since ages
Layers or bust by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 20:18 · Score: 0

Download GIMP and call it a day. Open source/free photoshop basically.
1. Re:Layers or bust by OolimPhon · 2016-10-07 20:39 · Score: 1
  
  Now imagine a Microsoft version of GIMP...
2. Re:Layers or bust by nnull · 2016-10-07 20:47 · Score: 2
  
  I can't. They're both horrible.
3. Re:Layers or bust by tepples · 2016-10-08 02:25 · Score: 1
  
  Does GIMP remain horrible after having turned on Windows > Single Window Mode? If so, what's the most horrible thing about it?
Thanks! by aglider · 2016-10-07 20:48 · Score: 1

This huge enhancement will bring me back to Windows. Paint was the only part to holding me back!

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Reinvent, eh? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 21:23 · Score: 0

Let me guess, Paint 10 will require 3 weirdly named services to run, one of which you can't disable and will regularly remind you that some dick pics need annotated.
The future is finally here.
1. Re:Reinvent, eh? by ConceptJunkie · 2016-10-08 05:13 · Score: 1
  
  Don't forget the zero-day exploits. That's still a thing with Windows, isn't it?
  
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The important question by dnaumov · 2016-10-07 21:32 · Score: 1

Why would I want to touch the screen of my Windows computer with a pen/stylus? I prefer my hands not getting killed with pain, thank you.
1. Re:The important question by wonkey_monkey · 2016-10-07 21:47 · Score: 1
  
  No-one's forcing you to.
  
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2. Re:The important question by thegarbz · 2016-10-07 22:49 · Score: 1
  
  Why would I attach a mouse to my tablet when I have a perfectly good stylus to take notes with? I prefer my text to be legible, thank you.
3D Printer Driver Not Installed by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 21:37 · Score: 0

Would you like to search the web for it?
Seriously though, this could be a cool toy when 3D printers become more consumer friendly and cheap enough to play around with. I imagine they'll include a bunch of sample drawings that you can print into Microsoft branded toys for the kiddies.
Watch them do a Soltaire on Paint... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-07 21:54 · Score: 0

Microsoft fucked up Solitare. Let's watch them do it to Paint. let's see:

1. Now shows Ads. http://www.pcworld.com/article...
2. Now only basic features unless you pay Microsoft for premium version http://www.newsweek.com/solita....
3. DLC!
4. "Telemetry" (sounds so much nicer than "spyware") sends whatever fils you open and whatever you paint to Microsoft "so we can improve our product."
5. Includes Windows 10 TOS: "We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary." https://www.schneier.com/blog/... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...
Surface and Paint by zifn4b · 2016-10-07 22:44 · Score: 2

Based on the video, it looks like the only reason Microsoft is interested in re-vamping Paint is to make a more compelling reason to use Surface.

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1. Re:Surface and Paint by thegarbz · 2016-10-08 05:15 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Which is interesting given they ship a surface specific program already.
2. Re:Surface and Paint by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 11:35 · Score: 0
  
  Surface? I see HoloLens written all over this.
Just as you thought ... by yakumo.unr · 2016-10-07 22:55 · Score: 1

... the UI couldn't get any more unusable for the occasional bits of minor work most people ever actually fire paint up for instead of getting hold of something better.
Killer App by jfdavis668 · 2016-10-07 23:19 · Score: 1

Microsoft has been looking for a killer app to get people to move to Windows 10 and Surface. They may have just found it. Way to go.
Typical Corporate Misstep by alternative_right · 2016-10-07 23:31 · Score: 1

Humans in large groups make terrible decisions because they are both risk-averse and prone to follow pleasant illusions.
Paint does not need a redesign; it needs fixes to the broken parts of its interface, and basic capabilities like smart select and layers.
Microsoft should also realize that people like it, much like Notepad, because it is a light app. Users love things that are simple, work right the first time, and are always fast because they are not bloated.
In fact, the best advice anyone could give Microsoft about Windows is to worry less about new features and more about making it like a Volkswagen bug: user serviceable, simple, well organized, and light and fast.
Anyone else remember MinWin? That is what we were all hoping for with Windows 10. It should not require an i7 to get decent performance on the desktop.

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1. Re: Typical Corporate Misstep by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-09 01:11 · Score: 0
  
  It doesn't require an i7 but - dammit! - it does need an SSD. Dunno why that have to write all that telemetry out to the fs ever 2 ms when there's a live internet connection...
2. Re:Typical Corporate Misstep by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-09 20:44 · Score: 0
  
  bang on. everything you said is exactly right. couldnt have said it better myself.
They still have Paint? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 00:01 · Score: 0

Didn't even know they still had Paint. Must be buried in the mess of Windows 10. Yeah, fix Paint and everyone will want Windows 10.
Just like calc? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 00:01 · Score: 0

They redesigned Calc for windows 10, its 2000 times slower, cant be started with calc via de start menu search (when you use a non english version of windows, you need to typ your local language). Has big bulky buttons.....
Its a total mess, and i am sure they *** this version of paint as well.
Where do I sign up? by Hognoxious · 2016-10-08 03:12 · Score: 1

Downloading it now! Because it was nothing but the poor quality of the paint app that was keeping myself and billions of others away from Win 10.

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Love the hair by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 03:52 · Score: 0

Beside the point, but I really like the hairstyle on the woman in the video. Bold and unusual.
but... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 04:09 · Score: 0

Does it run on NetBSD?
That is the real question....
Don't MS use version control? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 05:09 · Score: 0

Just roll everything back to Windows 2000 and try again. Everybody would be happier!
Microsoft, just use the Gimp and be done with it. by emil · 2016-10-08 05:37 · Score: 1

You could add a bit of new-user wizard polish, but otherwise, why are you bothering?
So? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 07:12 · Score: 0

enough said
How about Notepad? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-08 11:25 · Score: 0

Whilst I and everyone else uses Notepad++ or another text editor (which I'm sure 90% of the replies to this comment will contain), could you just get regular old Notepad to support non-CR line breaks? In 2016? Is that too much to ask?
Windows 10? by Cidtek · 2016-10-08 16:51 · Score: 1

What does "for Windows 10" even mean?
Paint.Net by Anonymous Coward · 2016-10-09 01:07 · Score: 0

Just retire Paint and replace it with that particular fres alternative.