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Viewers Only Watch 10% of Pay-TV Channels: Nielsen (usatoday.com)

Chances are if you have cable, satellite or telco-delivered TV service, you aren't watching all the channels in your package. Heck, you probably aren't even watching half of the channels you pay for. Global information and measurement company Nielsen has conducted some research and found that viewers are actually watching, on average, only about 20 of the 200 channels they pay for. What this means is that a majority of us watch less than 10% of the channels we pay our cable, satellite or other provider for. USA Today reports: Back in May 2014, viewers watched 10.6% of the 197 channels they said they paid for, Nielsen's TV Audience Report found. A year later, viewers watched 9.6% of the 208 channels they got. This year, viewers also watched 9.6% of the 206 channels on their pay-TV service. That doesn't mean customers are unhappy with their service. "There is a jump between 'I'm not watching all the channels I pay for' to 'I'm not going to pay for more channels than I watch,'" says Glenn Enoch, senior vice president of audience insights for Nielsen. "What we do know is that people who have skinny bundles are lower-income than the average, so this is more about household income than viewing behavior." Pay-TV companies need to experiment, for sure, because other consumer behaviors in the Nielsen report suggest traditional TV viewing by those under 35 continues to fall, says Colin Dixon, analyst and founder of nScreenMedia.

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  1. Cable Packages, Duh by Strider- · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising. One of the many reasons why I cut the cord.

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    1. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Amen!

      I hope at some point cable providers get screwed over and penalized for inflating not only the cost of bandwidth, but capping it as well.

      Commercial free - a la carte - that's the only way to go. And I'm willing to pay for it.

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    2. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Informative

      Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising. One of the many reasons why I cut the cord.

      Lets see the utter pile of shit there is available:

      Some 50 shows where sassy women sit around and yap and fight with each other.

      Another bunch where people sing more or less the same music to win prizes.

      Stupid dancing programs where professional athletes always win over some star or presidential candidates tramp daughter because they're professional athletes.

      Shows where yuppies pretend to be rednecks and encourage pedophilia

      Shows where superior people pop dozens of larvae out of a clown car vagina, and stand up for one of them being a pedophile.

      Strange shows with really weid looking guys with weird looking hair and stuff, but with wives who are oddly attractive.

      Shows where peope who never met each other sign a contract to marry each other.

      Marriage saving shows for kooks

      Must be a million shows about people in Alaska.

      "Science" shows where humans are stupid, and apparently every advancement in history was made by aliens.

      My better half watches some old reruns and court TV, so I see the ads for the weirdo shows.

      Then there are the commercials Sue this person sue that medicine company, Suee everyone. If you win an annuity in your suit, there's another company that will give you a lump sum if you give tehm the annuity.

      So I'm left with cartoon channel, and The Science channel, and HBO.

      Otherwise, its Youtube science and space/airplane vids. I can't be the only one who watches less than 1% of their crap.

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    3. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by swalve · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's kind of their business model. ESPN costs $7 a month (or whatever), and they give you 15 other channels for free along with it. If they didn't give you those channels, ESPN would still cost $7. Same deal with whatever channel you value.

    4. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is Not the Cable Companies.
      The Content providers demand they take packages or they can't get the few channels they actually want.
      Or You want.

    5. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Wycliffe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is Not the Cable Companies.
      The Content providers demand they take packages or they can't get the few channels they actually want.
      Or You want.

      I have no problem with them including a shopping channel or other junk channel with the channel I want but what I really want is to be able to pay $5 per channel for the channels I want. If they want to give me a bunch of other channels with the hope that I'll watch some commercials, I'm fine with that. What I'm not fine with is paying $20 a month for a bunch of channels I don't want and/or having to pay $100/month to get the 4 channels that I do want. $20/month for 4 good channels should work out good for both of us but until then I will look elsewhere.

    6. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Strider- · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And hence why people are only watching 10% of the channels they're paying for.

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    7. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Wycliffe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's kind of their business model. ESPN costs $7 a month (or whatever), and they give you 15 other channels for free along with it. If they didn't give you those channels, ESPN would still cost $7. Same deal with whatever channel you value.

      I'm ok with $7/channel. I'm also ok with a monthly minimum of $20 or something similar. What I'm not ok with is a $40 base package with none of the channels I want and then having to pay an extra $40 per month to get the 2 channels I do want. That's not $7/channel. That's $40 per channel when I have to pay $80/month to get the 2 channels I really want. It makes even less sense when we are talking directv and dish where assuming I already have the dish, the cost of them providing me a single channel is effectively free. They would be much better off to get rid of half of the channels and only offer channels that generate them a large revenue via either people willing to pay for them or shopping channels, ad revenue, etc...

    8. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and when my cable co dinged my account $7 per month "sports fee" (espn fee) I decided that $84 per year to Disney was stupid.

      snip. bye.

    9. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising.

      Why do you care? As long as you get what you want for a price you are willing to pay, what difference does it make if you also get something else? Just ignore the extra channels. All the channels are traveling through the cable, and arriving at your house, whether you want them or not, so the marginal cost to the cable company is $0.

    10. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      You mean some people don't watch all of those shopping channels??? Damn it if I'm paying for them then I'm damn well gonna watch them!

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    11. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

      There is no way in hell that the cable companies are going to give you for channels that you actually want for twenty bucks a month. They already scam a lot more than that from a lot of people without giving them anything that they want at all.

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    12. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is Not the Cable Companies.
      It's not the cable companies inflating internet only prices to offset the spraying arterial blood loss of cable cutting revenue ? Yeah, no.
      The Content providers demand they take packages or they can't get the few channels they actually want.

      Fuck em.

      Netflix is doing a fantastic job and I STILL pay 7.99 a month. When you don't have sharp eyesight, you can drop the video streaming quality and not really give a crap about it. Or pay 2 bucks more and get it - but ten bucks a month for a la carte and no commercials?

      I'm hooked.

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    13. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you care? As long as you get what you want for a price you are willing to pay, what difference does it make if you also get something else?

      Because we're being forced to pay for crap we don't want.

      "Just pretend the crap doesn't exist and you're paying more for the few channels you want", you might argue

      Problem is, by requiring that I pay for the crap channels, more of the crap will be created because the producers, by being paid, are mistakenly led to believe that their product doesn't suck. I resent that. I want the crap that nobody actually wants to pay for to wither and die so that nobody is forced to pay for it anymore.

    14. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by tsotha · · Score: 2

      People seem to think if you get ten channels for $10/month you should be able to get the one you want for $1. But it doesn't work that way. It's more likely you'll get the one channel for $10.

    15. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by tsotha · · Score: 2

      The shopping channels pay the cable company, at least in my area. That's why getting internet without TV costs $10 more.

    16. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Because we're being forced to pay for crap we don't want.

      You are being forced to pay an extra $0 for something that costs the cable company $0 to provide.

    17. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 2

      Until they get educated on how to get a la carte.

      The only people screwed are the ones that demand instant sports. And I feel bad for them.

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    18. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Cultural enrichment gives bonus virtue signalling points for the creators and broadcaster. But always select from the correct issues. Some issues are so 1970's and just don't get big oppression awards or offer as much gov script support anymore.

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    19. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by rickyslashdot · · Score: 2

      Good Grief - guess you have to be OLD to remember THAT WAS WHAT CABLE PROMISED WHEN IT STARTED - commercial free programming - at a price. THAT lasted about as long as it took the cable companies to split the country into 'covered' areas - i.e. local monopolies. THEN along came the extra windfall profits from adding advertising BACK into the entertainment packages, and you wound up paying for multiple channels with nothing worth watching, but every channel had commercials - - - AGAIN ! But Gee Whiz - you got a HUNDRED CHANNELS - but only about 5 to 10 had anything worth watching - - - and the 'package' was designed to minimize the watchable material to just a few channels, no matter how large a package you paid for - - - just as long as you PAID for a package - that brought in more in advertising revenue than the cost for the package (your cost - not theirs).

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    20. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      They don't. They sell you the channel you want and throw in the 8 channels of dreck to make the package look better to irrational purchasers.

      If you were able to buy just the channels you want it would be the same price, because people are willing to pay that much.

    21. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      $5 seems overpriced for most channels. Netflix is what, $9 for HD, no adverts, on-demand and a much wider selection than most channels. Maybe something like HBO can justify similar prices, but $5 is probably way too much for most channels that also run ads.

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    22. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's kind of their business model. ESPN costs $7 a month (or whatever), and they give you 15 other channels for free along with it. If they didn't give you those channels, ESPN would still cost $7. Same deal with whatever channel you value.

      If that was true, I'd still like an option for "pay $7 for just ESPN without the free channels", so I could express that I don't want them, free or not.

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    23. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      Actually, ESPN costs something like $2 a month PER SUBSCRIBER to the cable company. In other words, in order for ANY of a cable company's subscribers to be able to watch ESPN, the cable company must pay ESPN for ALL of their subscribers. ESPN does the same thing with their premium website..it's "Free", but only if your ISP pays ESPN some amount for each and everyone of their subscribers.
      Or to put it another way, if you have cable TV, you are paying for ESPN, whether you have any interest in sports or not.

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    24. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2

      I don't care, but the fact of the matter is that they do NOT offer what I want at a price I am willing to pay. That is why I no longer have cable TV.

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    25. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      Lets see the utter pile of shit there is available:

      [examples snipped]

      You forgot the biggest, most useless pile of shit ever on TV: ESPN. It's even worse than when the History Channel became the Wrestling Channel, and largely on par with the sixteen shopping channels you just can't get rid of.

    26. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Exactly this.

      Also, how many channels are the HD feed of the exact same thing? Time Warner just adds 1,000 to the channel number and it's HD, but the SD version is still on the cable* taking up bandwidth. And how many channels are reserved for pay-per-view, which millions of people will NEVER use?

      Every cable system is digital now - why aren't we only using the bandwidth necessary for the thing you're actually watching, which would also allow for a la carte channel selection? Oh, I know - because of the bundling racket that ABC/Disney/ESPN, Comcast/Universal/NBC, and their friends enjoy.

      * assuming that they aren't bank-switching with a SDV adapter

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    27. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      That's called "collusion" and it's illegal.

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    28. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      So you are saying that Comcast doesn't fuck over Charter / Time Warner, AT&T / DirecTV, or Dish to carry those 15+ channels you just named? Because there's absolutely no conflict of interest involved there.

      Are you an idiot?

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    29. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      You forgot the biggest, most useless pile of shit ever on TV: ESPN.

      And yet 4 of the top 10 shows on cable TV are on ESPN. For being a useless pile of shit, a lot of people still watch it.

    30. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except that you are paying for the Internet anyway. So it is a sunk cost.

      If you "bundle" with your provider, you will be paying for Internet + cable content.

      Better to just go cheap DSL + Netflix and still come out less than the bundled price.

      Another thing that people don't take into account is time. Time spent watching or skipping through commercials counts for something. You can add that time up and add that to the cost of your cable TV subscription.

    31. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Given that they force you to buy 8 channels of dreck just to get the one channel you want, it's not surprising. One of the many reasons why I cut the cord.

      I can't even do that. The cheapest internet cable I can get comes with TV channels bundled with it.

    32. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by bmxeroh · · Score: 1

      I think the time thing is far more important than most folks realize. I've realized that I can watch quite a bit of high-quality content, and still have plenty of time to actually do something other than sit on the couch all day. It's kind of nice. Honestly I have enough subscription services that my total bill is probably more than what I was paying for cable+internet, but I find the VALUE to be much higher do to the time factor as well as the sheer amount of stuff that I actually want to watch.

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    33. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      As long as you get what you want for a price you are willing to pay, what difference does it make if you also get something else?

      Because we're being forced to pay for crap we don't want.

      I think you might be missing the point of the post that you replied to: you are not being forced to pay for crap you don't want. You decided that you would prefer to pay for crap that you don't want. If you had decided you would rather not pay for crap you don't want, then you wouldn't be paying.

      You shouted "YES, I ACCEPT YOUR OFFER! OMG OMG PLEASE PLEASE, TAKE MY MONEY! YES, YES, HERE'S MY MONEY!!!!" to them while telling us that you're unhappy. (People who aren't as understanding as I am, are probably getting the mistaken impression that you're a two-faced whiny lying bitch.)

      I have a suggestion that might help your situation. Maybe you should stop petting the poorly-behaving dog and sweetly and lovingly saying, "oh, what a horrible bad dog, I fucking hate you," and then making smooching noises and scratching under its collar, followed by "You are the worst dog ever" and then giving it a piece of bacon.

      Say no. Stop paying them. See that money coming out of your account every month? Keep that money. Don't give them money. Terminate the business relationship. (I'm not sure how else to explain this. Anyone?) The shitty bundle is how things are going to be, until you learn how to say no. If you keep saying "yes," they'll keep hearing "yes."

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    34. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      You don't understand how ratings work then. Ratings used to be based on watching diaries that people would write down what and when they watched. Now they usually use a people meters. As such, places like barber shops, bars, restaurants, etc are not included in TV ratings and so underrepresent the actual number of people that might be viewing.

    35. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

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    36. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone?
      Do they at least sign prenups?
      This cannot end well.

      Sorry. I had to. Written on three lines like that it looked so much like a Haiku, but wasn't.

    37. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Except to get the NHL Network, I can't pay $7 on top of my package. I have to go from a 45 channel package that's about the same price as my Internet service without the bundle to a 200-channel package that's about double the price. And yet after we paid $140 a year for NHL on demand streaming, they block out any games that are on NHL Network. So they want us to pay another $1300 a year on top of the $140 and still miss games where our team plays the "local team" 5 hours away.

    38. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Couldn't that be said for every ranking program and channel?

    39. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      It makes even less sense when we are talking directv and dish where assuming I already have the dish, the cost of them providing me a single channel is effectively free.

      The incremental cost of adding you as a viewer from a technical viewpoint is small, but not free. You need to pay your share of the infrastructure.

      But the incremental cost of you viewing that channel from a content viewpoint is whatever the per-sub cost for providing that channel is. It isn't free.

      They would be much better off to get rid of half of the channels and only offer channels that generate them a large revenue

      I think this is called the tragedy of the commons. Do you really want cable and satellite services to offer only those channels that draw the most viewers? This is why broadcast TV has such poor content, you know. Lowest common denominator programming.

    40. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by omnichad · · Score: 1

      The point is that Comcast is the one company that can't blame the "content provider" for their high prices.

    41. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Sure they can. They still need to pay ABC / Disney / ESPN a shit ton of money for their cable properties, including the Disney Channel(s) and the ESPN series of channels, with all the other horseshit bundled channels that come along. And there's a nice fat bundle of bullshit that comes with Discovery and it's family of channels too.

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    42. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      I think this is called the tragedy of the commons. Do you really want cable and satellite services to offer only those channels that draw the most viewers? This is why broadcast TV has such poor content, you know. Lowest common denominator programming.

      I'm not saying only offer one channel that tries to appease everyone. Their satellites support over 100 channels so instead of having dozens of almost identical versions and then HD copies of those same channels why not have each channel specifically target 1% of the population. Then everyone gets a channel that they actually want. The infrastructure is the same but now instead of appealing to the majority you can also appeal to each niche separately. Noone can watch 100 channels at the same time, what you really want is everyone watching one of the 100 channels all the time and this would be much easier to do if instead of trying to get 50 million viewers on 1 channel at the same time instead they focused on getting 5 million viewers each on 100 channels which is a ton more eye balls.

    43. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying only offer one channel that tries to appease everyone. Their satellites support over 100 channels so instead of having dozens of almost identical versions and then HD copies of those same channels why not have each channel specifically target 1% of the population.

      You said: "They would be much better off to get rid of half of the channels and only offer channels that generate them a large revenue...". A 1% channel isn't going to generate large revenues. Supplying only channels that create large revenues is going to lead to the same problems broadcast TV has.

      The infrastructure is the same but now instead of appealing to the majority you can also appeal to each niche separately.

      That was the initial grand view of what cable television would be able to do. And as I already pointed out, the niche channels learned that they could make more money by being less niche and more mainline. The cable companies cannot provide the content that does not exist.

      getting 5 million viewers each on 100 channels

      According to the Census "population clock" there are 325 million people in the US.

      Five million viewers of any channel is a huge number. That's not niche, that's mainstream.

    44. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Time Warner just adds 1,000 to the channel number and it's HD, but the SD version is still on the cable* taking up bandwidth.

      So what? That's not bandwidth you get to use, it's reserved for the cable channels. Your internet is not a cable TV channel. The people who only have SD TVs appreciate getting a signal their TV can view.

      Every cable system is digital now - why aren't we only using the bandwidth necessary for the thing you're actually watching,

      Because it is cheaper to broadcast the digital signals and have the converters know what they can decode, than to have a switched video system. It is much cheaper for the consumer equipment to simply decode the right thing than for it to have to negotiate with a distant head-end for what it gets sent to decode. And if your system hasn't yet encrypted every damn channel, it makes your digital ready TV and VCR possible.

      And how many channels are reserved for pay-per-view, which millions of people will NEVER use?

      Before our system went encrypted for everything, there were about four "channels" (with multiple possible streams) in use for OnDirect. If you had a digital-ready TV you could actually watch other people's OnDirect programs. PPV broadcasts take up just one channel.

      How many cable systems actually have "millions of viewers" on one segment of the cable? Why does it matter in Philly how many people aren't watching PPV in Atlanta?

    45. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      It will take many more people cutting the cord for us to see any changes.

      If you're a content provider, your goal is to make money and you project profits based on the bulk licensing for distributors. You can then make some educated guesses about how best to divide up that money to either add more channels (and up those license fees) or spend more on quality programming. Since we have shows that feature idiots form New Jersey, child beauty pageants, and a family only famous due to a sex tape, we know exactly which way the providers went. Throwing a whole bunch of crap at the wall to see what sticks is easier when you have more channels to fling crap with.

      Once the providers start to see that piling on brain garbage for consumers isn't working, they will have to find better ways to make money. One would hope that they will see what competition like Netflix is doing with their own programming and quality shows like House of Cards, OITNB, and the Marvel properties and realize they should be giving consumers what they want. Quality content at a reasonable price.

      As a parent I'd pay $5 a month for a Toon Disney and Cartoon Network. I'd probably pay another $5 for History, Discovery and G4TV (if it's still around), unless of course they went down the path of "reality TV" instead of actually good stuff. Though I must say being able to pull up the next episode of whatever I'm into at the time is *much* easier than setting aside a particular time of the week to try to catch some show.

    46. Re:Cable Packages, Duh by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      It will take many more people cutting the cord for us to see any changes.

      The change will likely come from outside. Just like the entrenched stock brokers weren't the first ones to offer cheap trading, the entrenched cable networks are not going to be the first ones to offer alacarte. Amazon prime has already started do this a little. They have started adding add-on subscriptions to prime like starz and a few others. I see this continuing to increase. I also wouldn't be surprised if sites like the history channel and cartoon network either started offering stand alone subscriptions or hooking up with sites like amazon prime or roku to allow add on subscriptions.

  2. Got a better deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Meanwhile, I watch about 97% of what I download. Plus shows from Netflix and Amazon.

    1. Re:Got a better deal by sglewis100 · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, I watch about 97% of what I download.

      Agreed.

      "OMG, you're a filthy pirate for downloading our show," wail the production companies' pitbulls.

      Here's an idea: make the programs available legitimately at a reasonable price. No DRM and decent quality, same as the "pirate" sites offer. At a reasonable price. Ad-free, same as the "pirate" sites offer. Sweeten things with higher quality video & audio, 5.1 audio and subtitles to encourage payment as an alternative the free "pirate" offerings. And make it available right away. Withhold the DVDs and/or encumber what limited download options you do offer with DRM and you're just pissing in our corn flakes. Nobody likes piss-soaked corn flakes.

      Reasonable price + ad free = don't go together. Sorry, but the ads are keeping prices down. I get that you think prices are too high, but they'd be higher still if everything worked the way HBO did. Or your programming wouldn't have ads, but would have sponsors, and would be interrupted from time to time for fund raising, if it worked the way PBS did.

      For us, stealing everything just doesn't feel right. Yet we have TV's in places where cable jacks aren't, don't like the bulky cable boxes anyway, etc, and went with Playstation Vue (no Playstation required, you can go with a $40 Roku or Fire TV Stick as a one time per TV purchase). We pay $45, get all the locals (because we're in one of select markets), get just about every channel other than BBC America and CW we care about, the CW now offers their shows free via an app, and have a 30 day cloud DVR so yes, we skip commercials.

      Someone will inevitably say but what if I want to watch it 40 days later??? Yup, that's a trade off we made. If it ever did happen, maybe it eventually shows up on Netflix. Maybe I drop $2 on Amazon to watch it. Maybe it just wasn't a life altering all important thing that I couldn't live without.

      My concern with pirating, besides the ethical and legal issues, is that if it becomes popular enough, there won't be anything to pirate. If nobody paid for anything, they'd stop making it.

    2. Re:Got a better deal by omnichad · · Score: 1

      5.1 Audio is actually sort of worthless for most programming

      Not true at all. And I'll tell you why. Having a center channel for dialogue not only makes it clearer, but it's also directionally correct if you already have a 5.1 system with properly spaced speakers. If you sit off-center with left and right channels only and you have speakers on both sides of the room, your sound will be reaching only one ear.

  3. That's why I'm loving Channels as Apps by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Now that there are apps for most things like HBO or Starz, I really enjoy stations a lot more - I can pick up a station" as I wish, or drop it when I won't need it for a while.

    In any one month I probably pay more than I would with a bundle but then again in some months I hardly subscribe to anything. So I'm probably still ahead and I'm no longer subsidizing channels I find utterly worthless. I'd much rather I spend a little more but all of it goes to the channel I like.

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  4. Almost cut the cord by geek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If it wasn't for my wife wanting to watch The Bachelor the second it comes on I would have cut the cable a long time ago. I literally watch 3 channels and most nights not even that.

    I really can't stomach whats on TV these days. I know I'm older and my tastes have changed but what I see on TV these days is just uninteresting, overly political correct and frankly the actors seem to really suck. On the other hand when I see stuff from 20 years ago the same can be said, but at least then it was cheap.

    Netflix is really no better either. The choices are slim, the shows are mostly junk and the prices will eventually climb to the same as cable, and/or add advertisements. It is bound to happen.

    1. Re:Almost cut the cord by swalve · · Score: 1

      Quit complaining and buy an antenna.

    2. Re:Almost cut the cord by LordSkippy · · Score: 1

      If it wasn't for my wife wanting to watch The Bachelor the second it comes on I would have cut the cable a long time ago.

      Cut! Cut now!

      The Bachelor is on ABC, which you can get over the air. Unless you have one of the very early HDTVs, you've got a digital tuner in your set. You can rig-up a wire clothes hanger into the coax input and pick up free broadcast over the air HDTV, which will be your local stations. That includes ABC, so your wife can watch that crap show as soon as it comes on.

      Cut! Cut now!

      We haven't had cable in almost a decade now. The only channel my wife even misses is Investigation Discovery, and there's a local channel that broadcasts over the air that has similar content.

      Cut! Cut now!

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    3. Re:Almost cut the cord by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      But apparently his wife is

    4. Re:Almost cut the cord by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Over 90 percent of what's on TV doesn't appeal to me at all. But then I'm sure a lot of what I watch wouldn't appeal to most people. One of the few shows I like that a lot of people also like is Game of Thrones. Most of the others struggle in the ratings. Fortunately a lot of marginal shows that would get cut normally manage to make it since there are so many channels. I like Longmire and when it got cut it moved to Netflix so I can still see it. I remember when I had cable briefly back in the 80's there was almost never anything I wanted to see playing on it. Now I have DIrecTV and I have no time to watch all the things I'd like to see. But then I could easily live without it as I did back when my children were young and I just had a rabbit ear antenna on top of a 27" CRT television. I'm fortunate that I have the money to waste on it.

    5. Re:Almost cut the cord by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative

      If it wasn't for my wife wanting to watch The Bachelor the second it comes on I would have cut the cable a long time ago.

      The Bachelor is on ABC, which is broadcast over-the-are to something like 90% of the US population. Depending on your location, getting it might cost as little as $20. I wrote an in-depth tutorial that really walks you through antenna selection and setup:

      http://evilviper.pipedot.org/j...

      I literally watch 3 channels and most nights not even that. I really can't stomach whats on TV these days

      I've always been that way... That's why my favorite slogan is:

      "PBS: Television for people who hate television"

      You'll do better with an antenna, anyhow. Lots of sub-channels with old TV shows and movies, several of which don't even get carried on most cable systems.

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    6. Re:Almost cut the cord by tsotha · · Score: 1

      As soon as we set up an antenna my parents dropped cable like a hot rock. We got them a DVR and my dad, who scoffed at television for decades because he couldn't find anything worth watching, told me he can always find something worth watching now, and has to consciously limit his TV time.

    7. Re:Almost cut the cord by speedlaw · · Score: 1

      When I cut the cord I heard from lots of neighbors who were tired of the $200 plus per month. When I told them an antenna on the house was a one time expense of maybe $150 all in, they all sort of said ... what ? Put up an antenna ? How do I do that ? Run a wire ? and all still pay the $, because the fear of change. I've even demonstrated to a few my homebrew bow tie antenna, which works better than it looks. I'm 40 miles from my transmitters, and today the signal strengths are between 98% and 84%. We are odd in that we have cable and FiOs on my block, making this the one of few places with any competition. I use cable broadband as it is way cheaper than FiOs....FiOs has a huge tax tier that does not apply to cable, and at least in this area, Optimum has always given good response, where fighting with Verizon starts at face palm and goes downhill. I did get a $10 increase in my naked broadband, but with netflix/hulu/skitchy sites overseas, no worries. A lifetime Tivo, bought during cable era does great OTA only duty...and an older Mac Mini streams beautifully, with no issues in 1080p. All in, I'm still way cheaper than six months of my neighbor's CATV subscription, and I don't have to suffer the SA 8300 box There is an inertia

    8. Re:Almost cut the cord by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 2

      Same here. She absolutely couldn't live without "House Hunters" and CNN.

      Then I cut the cable. Told her to get Apple TV, Hulu and Netflix. Total of $30/mo, which
      is half what we were paying Comcast for cable TV.

      Somehow, we have survived. I rigged up an antenna in the attic, so she can get the local news she
      insisted she had to have. I don't think she's watched it since I did it.

      We did watch the first "debate". // Trump? Really? // If the FBI won't indict Hillary, she's guilty of nothing.

    9. Re:Almost cut the cord by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      My wife made us get satellite when MNF moved to ESPN in 2006. She said, "Don't mess with a pregnant woman's football!" It was scary.

  5. If you can't cut the cord by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    Nobody, ever, gets offered the best deal a cable provider has by remaining a constant customer.

    As long as you have a competitive market, trade out as soon as introductory specials fade into the sunset, for newer, sweeter deals with the competition.

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  6. Amazing insight, Nielsen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In other breaking news, the sky is blue.

    1. Re:Amazing insight, Nielsen by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      This has been a complaint since the '80s. Sports fans had to buy "expanded" cable to get channels they didn't want, just so they could get ESPN. Disney Kids only comes with premium, so you have to buy the most expensive package with 200 channels to get that one. And you can't buy HBO with "basic" as well, so those wanting to watch The Sopranos or True Blood or whatever, couldn't get HBO without expanded basic or premium (depending on the company).

      A La Carte channel ordering would not cut revenue, but would break the monopolies by the distribution companies.

  7. On the Web by dcollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meanwhile, I only tend to visit about 20 of the 1 billion sites on the World Wide Web (about 0.000002%), and yet here I am paying full price for my Internet access.

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    1. Re:On the Web by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you tried to sell internet "a-la-carte", the geeks would have you burned at the stake.

      Yeah, and rightly so, because the internet is a huge network with virtually no barrier to entry, and anyone can publish content and anyone can consume whatever content is out there.

      but don't try and sell TV as all or nothing, then you're screwing them over. Dumb fucks.

      You want to use the internet model for TV? Great. One service with every possible channel available, no mandatory equipment rental fees, and then let provider companies compete on how many minutes you can watch per day or whatever for whatever price. If you want to make an analogy between the internet and TV, that's the analogy to make. Don't try to shove the internet into the TV box, that doesn't work. The reason why we love the internet model is specifically because it is better than the TV model. Don't try to make the internet like TV, try to make the old-fashioned TV model like the internet. It's going to go that way eventually once older people die and younger people are raised without ever spending childhoods sitting for hours in front of the TV every night. Instead they'll have spent hours on the internet every day. If you want those people as customers then it's time to throw out the old models and figure out what people actually want.

      I'll be happy to pay money to consume TV shows the way that I want to consume them. In the meantime, I get them without paying the broadcast companies and I don't feel bad at all for the broadcast companies. They haven't earned my sympathy because they insist that I do things their way, they don't understand what I want. Until they figure that out, I'm not worried about them getting my money because I know that creative people will continue to make shows I want to watch. I would sooner buy some merchandise that goes directly to the creators than give money to a broadcaster trying to tell me how to watch everything.

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    2. Re:On the Web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, I only tend to visit about 20 of the 1 billion sites on the World Wide Web (about 0.000002%), and yet here I am paying full price for my Internet access.

      You're paying for the pipe. What you do with it is entirely up to you. Cat videos? Elf bowling? Streaming videos that domestic sellers refuse to sell you? Knock your socks off.

      The cable company, on the other hand, is requiring that you pay for sports and religious programs and foreign-language soaps even though all you're interested in watching is celebrity ballroom dancing. F*ck that noise.

      Why should you be required to support some stupid sports network when you would have zero interest in encouraging anyone to pay people outrageous sums of money to play games or beat one another up? Why should you be forced to pay to support some whack-doodle pimping his/her imaginary friend (who, despite being imaginary, seems to need a continual stream of donations)? They have weekly communal gatherings for that nonsense. Let them practice their little superstitious rituals in the company of the similarly-brainwashed. Let those who want to see it pay to stream it from someplace where it's mainstream. It works well for porn. Why not do the same thing for baseball, hockey, Jerry's Ministry of Perpetual Need and that crazy, long-running soap you can't understand?

      There's what your web connection is for. It's a pipe to use as you wish. The folks across the street can pay for their foreign-language faith healers & elder-bowling. Dude next door can use his pipe to stream his favorite football team's various encounters, whether that means round football or oblong; you don't have to care, because you can support your celebrity ballroom channel.

      Pay for what you want to watch, period. The cable companies are just very-financially-influential buggy-whip makers at the moment. They need to be forcefully shown that buggy whips are no longer desirable or necessary.

    3. Re:On the Web by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      The only problem is that certain companies are working to introduce the cable TV model to the Internet. For example, ESPN has a website which is free to the end user, as long as their ISP pays a fee to ESPN for each and every subscriber to that ISP (something like $0.50 per subscriber per month).

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    4. Re:On the Web by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      You have a classic apples and oranges issue. If you're using the Internet largely as if it were an extension of TV, then you have an obvious problem. If you're equating the Web with the Internet, then you have another obvious problem.

      That's like saying, "I only ever use the bathroom in my house, yet I'm paying the full mortgage price." You don't want Internet access. You want AOL back in the 90's.

    5. Re:On the Web by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Right. And I believe that the only way to watch certain live programming on the internet is if you sign in with your TV account. I understand that's how they want everything to work, but that's not how I want to do it, so I find a way that lets me watch without needing to go through their process. In the end I still get to watch it, but they don't get anything. If they want their piece I'm happy to give it to them, but I'm not going to get a new package for $80/month in order to watch their show. For example, I'll be happy to pay the NFL in order to watch the games live, but I'm not going to pay a TV company for that. A few live NFL games is not worth $80 per month to me, and none of their other offerings let me watch live online. Once they figure out how to unlock their service I'll be happy to send them my money, but they don't want to sell that to me for some reason. I watched part of the NFL game on Monday and in place of the commercials that would normally play, there was an ESPN logo with something like "We'll be back from commercials soon". ESPN doesn't get any money from me for that, I don't see any of the advertising they've sold, etc, but they refuse to sell me a way to watch the way I want to.

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    6. Re:On the Web by Falos · · Score: 1

      You're not paying for people's sites, for webpages, for their pigeonholes. You're not paying for any "channels".

      You're paying for the television itself.

  8. Re:Can't watch TV, it's all pro Hillary by Berkyjay · · Score: 4, Funny

    Trump, is that you?

  9. Re: Can't watch TV, it's all pro Hillary by orlanz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Right, wonder what your back in the days were... Decades of gangs, prohibition, mafia, corrupt jails, corrupt police departments, insider trading, corporate fraud, war on drugs, welfare fraud, Medicare fraud, Ponzie schemes, housing bubble, stock bubble, too big to fail, etc.

    Most of the criminals involved there weren't even touched. Some were even bailed out by taxpayer funds. Or did you mean before 50 years ago... When entire sections of our society were treated less equally?

  10. Not surprising by orlanz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have two cable boxes... Haven't been turned on since they were installed 3 years ago. I had to bundle them with my internet to get the best deal from the provider. And they stop calling you as often to "save me money with the bundle of the month". Now I just get the useless VoIP calls once every 6 months.

    I don't have the time nor inclination to plan my weekly schedule around the times of the shows. I haven't really watched traditional TV in close to 15 years! 10 years ago I even lost the need to have something random in the background.

    I still watch shows about 3-4 hours a week. But on my schedule. I think Hulu was a great detox program. Initially they provided the latest and greatest. Then they went to 1 day delay. Then 8 days. Then 30! A few months after that, I didn't mind watching shows an entire season later or even dropping them.

    Season clif hangers were no more so wasn't addicted to looking at release schedules. The whole water cooler talk had long since died so there was rarely a need to stay up to date on whatever was on.

    Now Hulu became paid only... in between seasons!! So awesome! Haven't even been to the site in months. I am probably bringing the average down, but I think Nielsen is being conservative in their numbers. It probably way worse based on how many just have the TV on and how many only got it due to bundles.

  11. 90% of TV is crap... by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    ...no matter who you are. Eventually our kids will wonder why we used to sit around watching a central TV, just like we wondered why our parents sat around listening to the radio.

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  12. I get HBO on vacation, not worth the money by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    I travel a couple times a year, when I do I get a hotel that has HBO. I don't look for it, the hotels in my price range always have it. What I learn when I rent a hotel room with HBO is I really don't need HBO at home, it just shows the same crap over and over and rarely shows new stuff I might want to see.

    I remember some 10 years ago, dad was in a hospital in OK with heart issues, mom was with relatives close by, and nothing was happening. Sis and I drove from San Diego to Tulsa OK, staying in hotels with HBO, when the Sopranos were going strong. I was getting the DVDs for past seasons from the library, sis hadn't seen any of them so she didn't care when I went from HBO to Movie of the Week.

    Same goes for Showtime. My cable company charges me $180/month for cable, I call them once a year to bitch. They typically throw in Showtime/Skinemax and drop the price to $100. Showtime/Skinemax is nowhere near worth an extra $80/month, most of it I can get from the library a few month later for free.

  13. Let's be honest by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2

    No different than playing 30 of your 300 steam games

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  14. Re:Not SMART enough TVs! by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    NSA Server responds and serves up channels

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  15. Re:In Canada it was far worse by tsotha · · Score: 1

    On the other hand, we wouldn't have Bob & Doug without CanCon.

  16. Not about channel quantity by Dracos · · Score: 1

    Every other study I've seen about TV viewership points to the average viewer's interests encompass a limited number of channels, about a dozen. Stuffing more channels into a bundle doesn't make people watch more of them.

    The business model of cable is mainly based on high viewership channels subsidizing low viewership channels. They need bundling to support all the new dreck that gets made and old stuff that's re-run.

    1. Re:Not about channel quantity by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      Yep, and they only put the ones people actually want to watch in the higher tiers forcing you to buy more to get them.

  17. A matter of time by aglider · · Score: 1

    You only have 24 hours a day, even with 100 channels you cannot watch all of them!

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    1. Re:A matter of time by infolation · · Score: 1

      That's right.

      100 channels for 24 hours = 2400 hours per day.

      Even if you watched for your entire 16-hour waking day, you could only watch 0.66% of your television's output.

    2. Re: A matter of time by aglider · · Score: 1

      Let's say you have 200 channels and you watch 50 channels in 18 hours a day. That's 25% of the channels for an average of 21 minutes each. Then your life is to be squeezed in 6 hours: food, drinks, sleep and ... Slashdot.

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  18. We only use 10% of our brains by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    What do we need all those other channels for?

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  19. Re:No shit. by jonwil · · Score: 1

    As long as there are people being forced to pay for ESPN but who wouldn't subscribe to it if given the choice not to, Disney will continue to force cable providers to bundle ESPN.

    And thanks to the regulatory capture of the US government and all its agencies by the big media companies, there is zero chance of a repeat of what happened to the studios in the 40s where the US government forced an end to the block booking practices (where the studios told theaters "if you want popular films you have to exhibit the less popular crap as well")

  20. DVD-S via motorised dish by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    I have a 1 meter motorised dish which can be pointed at over dozen satellites, thousands of channels and I still only watch a similar number of channels.

  21. It's not a manufactured product! by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    I have a travel pass for the local transport. It entitles me to spend 18 hours on the light rail service every single day. I only use it for 1 of those hours. I book a hotel room. I can be there all day but I only want to use it at night.

    Cable TV is a service just like the others. They don't have to buy some channels and then sell them to you at a profit. They negotiate a cost - for most of these channels it's a pretty paltry cost - and then offer bundles. It won't save them any money not to offer you the channels unless they offer nobody the channels.

    If they had a package with just the channels you watch it would cost... EXACTLY THE SAME! Because you have shown that you are willing to pay that much for those specific channels.

  22. Re: Can't watch TV, it's all pro Hillary by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    Bill Maher (of the HBO show Real Time with Bill Maher) had a great monologue about how regardless of how this election goes, Donald Trump will likely be the last major candidate born in the 40s, with formative years and values stuck in the 50s. When he says make America great again, he's talking about making it like the 50s again.

    Which was great, if you were a straight white male.

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  23. Duh! by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    Why do you think cable companies don;t allow al a carte channel selection? Most of these networks wouldn't exist without the cable forcing them on you.

    1. Re:Duh! by Baloo+Uriza · · Score: 1

      I'm OK with this. I don't need nine different sports networks. But I would like a decent documentary channel that isn't obsessed with retconning reality with aliens...

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    2. Re:Duh! by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      More popular channel subsidize less popular channels, in the bundled model.

      Of course, you could argue that the unpopular channels should just have to compete on equal terms, and either shut down if they don't get enough customers, or change their content to chase the market. That's the free market approach, and it would ensure that only the most popular channels stay in business.

      However, this really screws over people who have more specific non-mainstream interests, or who prefer their entertainment to be a bit more in-depth and less "reality TV".

      That's why we need to have both a commercial TV market competing on market terms, with an a la carte selection, and a solid publicly funded network, where more in-depth, niche and alternative programming can happen, without having to compete in the popularity contests of the commercial programming market.

      We have networks like PBS in the US, BBC in the UK, DR in Denmark, SVT in Sweden and countless others. Unfortunately, a lot of classical liberal and libertarian politicians are trying to defund them and make them compete on the same market as the commercial networks, which is just completely missing the point of why we have public networks in the first place.

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  24. Re:Fringe Area by LordSkippy · · Score: 1

    Not true. It may be true for you, but not for me. I live in the 11th largest city in the country, and the number of stations I could pick up after the digital switch doubled. Half are Spanish language, which you're just as likely to hear spoken in my household as English, but it was that way before the digital switch as well.

    Your mileage may very, but cable is no longer a necessity. Cut it.

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  25. Re:Prove it by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    It must be getting closer to the election - we've almost reached Peak Shilling.

    He violated the Cuba embargo, but it's okay because he stiffed someone on the bill. That's this election's version of "but I didn't inhale."

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  26. Ok,but are these duplicate channels by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what its like in the US,but here in Canada if you get 200 channels you're getting about 60 channels, 30 of which are repeated multiple of times (~5) for different cities. Obviously if you watch CBC Toronto, you're unlikely to watch CBC Ottawa. This would explain this "finding" immediately.

    1. Re:Ok,but are these duplicate channels by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

      Yeah the US is a little different. For the broadcast networks with local affiliate stations (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox, etc.), the cable or satellite provider will generally only provide you with your local affiliate. So if you live in Los Angeles, you will only get the NBC station for Los Angeles, and not for New York or San Francisco.

      The cable stations (CNN, ESPN, Discovery Channel, Disney Channel, etc) have just one version. At most they might have two, an East Coast and a West Coast version with the same content, just time shifted by three hours, but normally you'll get just the one appropriate for your geographic location (though not always, Dish Network provides the East Coast feed even in Hawaii).

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  27. Re:Prove it by tsqr · · Score: 1

    He violated the Cuba embargo, but it's okay because he stiffed someone on the bill. That's this election's version of "but I didn't inhale."

    Hey, why not? It worked for Bill.

  28. Re:Can't watch TV, it's all pro Hillary by tsqr · · Score: 1

    Back in my day, judges and juries decided who commited a crime, not Fox News.

    Back in my day, prosecutors decided who to try, not investigators.

  29. Do the track the use of the Mute button? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    I wish Nielson tracked when people use the mute button because I mute every presidential TV ad, every drug ad, and every ad for Full Frontal with Samantha Bee.

  30. Doesn't even carry the locals by Baloo+Uriza · · Score: 1

    Cox Communications doesn't even offer a plan in Tulsa that carries all of the local channels. We get around 40 channels from a dozen or so transmitters here. But to get all of those channels, some of which end up in Cox's lineup on different premium lineups, it'd cost about what I pay in rent. And that's why I have an antenna...

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  31. Re:Let me watch fewer channels by Baloo+Uriza · · Score: 1

    Get a TiVo. TiVo lets you filter out those channels using the same feature you use to let TiVo know whether or not you get certain channels.

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  32. It's about choices by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Sure, 200 channels and there may only be 1 or 2 of them you are interested in at any given time. But having a wide selection can be nice.

    Obviously the most efficient would be for there to be a single channel that shows exactly what I want to watch at all times. But of course people would complain about the high cost of that one channel versus the relatively inexpensive per channel cost of a 200 channel bundle.

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  33. -1% club by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

    I guess I would be in the negative 1% club since I don't subscribe to cable at all and only subscribe online to HBO during "Game of Thrones" season then swiftly cancel. The only 2 channels I would like to have, HGTV and Comedy, are not available separately, so I simply found alternative sources of entertainment such as Twitch and Youtube, both of which I gladly support (Twitch Turbo & Patreon for individual Youtube channels.)

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  34. Sturgeon's Law by vanyel · · Score: 1

    Sounds about right: 90% of everything is crap, and glad for it - there's too much good stuff to watch as it is...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  35. This is why I've been on OTA for 10 years now by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Got tired of paying for a ton of crap I don't ever watch, just to get 2 or 3 channels I did watch. There's at least a dozen OTA channels I receive with excellent signal strength and quality where I live, and I rarely have nothing to watch waiting for me on my DVR -- and the picture quality is better, too, because cable TV recompresses everything within an inch of it's life.

  36. Comast probably know this already by forrie · · Score: 1

    I believe companies like Comcast already realize this, as their profit margins are significant with this model; hence their resistance to provide "a la carte" programming. I also use a DVR, rarely watching live television -- I utilize only a small fraction of what I'm forced to pay for, if I want access to those channels (ie: extra package costs).