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Clinton Campaign Considered Bill Gates, Tim Cook For Vice President (theverge.com)
WikiLeaks has been releasing thousands of emails over the past couple of weeks belonging to Hillary Clinton's campaign chair John Podesta. One of the more interesting tidbits revealed from the email dump was the list of potential running mates considered by Clinton's campaign. The Verge reports: Clinton's vice presidential candidates, while not altogether surprising, include some vaguely interesting choices like Bill and Melinda Gates, Apple CEO Tim Cook, and General Motors CEO Mary Barra. In the mail, Podesta says he has organized the list into "rough food groups," one of which includes all the people mentioned above. Xerox CEO Ursula Burns and Starbucks CEO Howard Shultz are also in this "food group," along with Michael Bloomberg. With just under 40 names on the list, it's not immediately obvious how close any of these people came to actually being asked to take on the role (Tim Kaine is on the list).
Everyone else is covering that story to death. The "food groups" the nominees are in are their race, gender & wealth if you're wondering. Sanders is their very last choice, all by himself. So why not release this story instead, which almost nobody is covering right now?
https://slashdot.org/submissio...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Larry Ellison could have been on that list (shudder!)
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
For people like Bill Gates and Tim Cook, vice president would be a very real step down from what they do presently.
Yes, I'm saying the CEO of Apple and a retired billionaire turned philanthropist have more power than the second highest ranking elected official in the United States. Because the position isn't worth a warm bucket of piss.
Why can't we just fucking vote already?!?!?! Get it the fucking hell over with you goddamned!!!!
I need pain pills. Can I just spend from now until the 8th high on pain pills? Pretty please?
Everyone else is covering that story to death. The "food groups" the nominees are in are their race, gender & wealth if you're wondering. Sanders is their very last choice, all by himself. So why not release this story instead, which almost nobody is covering right now?
https://slashdot.org/submissio...
An excellent choice, monseur.
Might I also recommend https://slashdot.org/submissio...
or perhaps https://twitter.com/wikileaks/...
I'll spare you all a click because there's nothing to see here unless you're interested in their "food groups" and which they thought they needed. Here's the full list of VP ideas put forth listed by the category they all appear to fit into (which is not, in fact, listed in the email, just to be clear about that):
Hispanic Men
Rep. Xavier Becerra, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Secretary of Labor Tom Perez and Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar.
Women
Sen. Tammy Baldwin, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Sen. Claire McKaskill, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, Sen. Debbie Stabenow and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
White Men
Sen. Michael Bennet, Sen. Sherrod Brown, Sen. Martin Heinrich, Sen. Tim Kaine, Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Sen. Chris Murphy and Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack.
Black Men
Columbia, S.C., Mayor Stephen Benjamin, Sen. Cory Booker, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, former Attorney General Eric Holder, former Gov. Deval Patrick, Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx.
Military Leaders
Gen. John Allen, Adm. William McCraven and Adm. Michael Mullen
Rich Businesspeople
GM CEO Mary Barra, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Xerox CEO Ursula Burns, Apple CEO Tim Cook, Microsoft founder Bill Gates, philanthropist Melinda Gates, Coca-Cola CEO Muhtar Kent, Rockefeller Foundation President Judith Rodin and Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz
Other
Sen. Bernie Sanders
1. former stockbroker, investment advisor, and financier Bernie Madoff
2. owner of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant Charles Montgomery Burns
3. elderly Scottish anthropomorphic Pekin Scrooge McDuck
4. A large slightly moist burlap sack of cash marked "campaign finance reform or whatever"
Good people go to bed earlier.
She is a black version of Carly Fiorina with a dash of "diversity" -- one who did irreparable damage to a once powerful Fortune 500 company, who has a reputation as a liar, who insisted a stupid acquisition with Affiliated Computer Services was the right thing to do, and who is hated by her employees. My God -- I have absolutely no problem with a black woman, but why *that* black woman?
Is anyone else disturbed by the apparent ramifications of this? Perhaps those lizard people "conspiracy theories" of have more credence than we were led to believe.
Big relief to find that he is not on the list. Also, Cowboy Neal.
Don't worry, I actually covered that in a comment to my own submission, which is the first post on this story.
Also, let's linkify that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
And this kids, is how the Corporate Government started to shamelessly show it's ugly face in this Continuum space time.
Just because you want someone doesn't mean there's a snowball's chance in hell of them going along with what you'd like.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
As an Australian, I came across this Clinton body count website recently...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
Scrolling down the list of journalists and agents investigating the Clintons who have committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head twice, or shooting themselves and stuffing themselves in a duffle bag, etc. etc...as cliche as it is to say, it blew my fucking mind.
How many Americans know about this shit? Hardly any it would seem.
The picture it paints is that these people are basically the mafia or worse.
I've known for a long time (since watching the mainstream US media blatantly blacking out Ron Paul of the last presidential race) that the American federal election system is a farce, but holy shit...I really feel sorry for you guys. And in extension I feel really sorry for the world.
These people think their so smart controlling elections and keeping the common man from having any real choice or power. Eventually it's going to blow up in their face. The whole point of democracy is to let the peasants feel like they're having their say. When the people feel powerless and oppressed, that's when revolution happens.
We get it, Hillary doesn't grok email. Can we move on yet?
Your original comment is right fucking here you faggot: https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9786933&cid=53102973
It hasn't even been downmodded.
You do know that unless you're logged in you're looking at a copy of the conversation that's a few minutes old?
Because the evidence is junk.
First the "investigative" video is by James O'Keefe, who is infamous for dishonestly editing and framing videos to create the false appearance of criminal behaviour. And yes, you're allowed to shoot the messenger when the messenger is lying.
As for the woman Zulema, even if she was a Clinton supporter or even worked some aspect of the Clinton campaign (they must have thousands of paid staffers) that doesn't mean she was part of a Clinton conspiracy to frame Sanders supporters for violent protests. People who work in politics sometimes care about politics too, and they're more than capable of attending a protest on their own.
Oh, and I don't know what she has to do with the violent protests anyway, the video is of her at a peaceful (though disruptive) protest on a highway!
Huh.
Scott Adams has a blog post on attacking the source, and claims it's almost always a "tell" for being guilty.
I don't know about those sorts of things, maybe this is the statistically improbably case where a non-guilty person attacks the messenger.
Then again, you don't cite any sources, show independent reviews of the evidence, or even any rationalization. Just "the evidence is junk".
Was that on purpose?
Right. Part two of "James O'Keefe Does His Typical Hit Jobs".
For anyone who doesn't know his past, he made his name with the "ACORN videos", which led to investigations of the organization - and consequently, the videos. The results? From the Wikipedia summary:
The internet is not a series of tubes. It's more like a net. Or a network of computers. Or an internet.
Maybe, just maybe, because James O'Keefe has a near decade long history (eg, the ACORN smear in 2009) of distorting at his best and being a deceitful liar at his worst?
Tim on the campaign trail:
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I'm not *suprised* the Dems lumped candidates into buckets based solely on race and gender, rather than perhaps QUALIFICATIONS FOR JOB, but I do find it interesting and illustrative.
Exactly how does one use their genitals to perform the job of vice president? Whether or not a potential candidate has a penis is apparently the #1 most important consideration; does the SIZE of their penis matter?
I would hope that if someone like Paul Ryan was making the list his categories would be something like:
Legistlative Experience
Executive Experience (govt)
Executive Experience (private sector)
Foreign Policy Experience
Sounds a lot like those planned parenthood "selling dead babies" videos.
What is it with the nuts on that side of the political spectrum? Is it that they believe the bullshit about "the mainstream media" being all lies and they think that gives them license to outright lie too because fairness?
I think you misunderstand. This is just more proof that the bitch is corrupt. Really, any news story about email and clinton proves shesabitch. You don't even need to read the email, or the story for that matter.
No, musings about possible VP running mates who might have been, in place of the oddly smarmy Kaine ... that's not in the "more interesting" category. The endless parade of internal back-and-forths that reinforce our understanding of the insider-based, corrupt, incestuous affair that is the Hillary Industrial Crime Campaign Power Acquisition Complex ... THAT is the "more interesting" aspect of what's being exposed over the last few weeks. Obviously her breathless supporters across most of the wider media outlets are pretending they haven't seen or heard of any of that, not even once, in the decades that she's been carrying on as she has. But some pointless conjecture about Gates or Cook (neither of whom would have touched the gig with a ten foot pole) is exactly the sort of distraction her camp is hoping people will bite into, so they're not spending time boning up on just how corrupt her operation is.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Business is not politics. There's little reason why (once you've got over the low bar of being able to put your shoes on) being good at one should make you good at the other.
War isn't politics either. Arthur Wellesley - brilliant general, repressive asshole prime minister. Grant - OK general, a tad genocidal with the Indians.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
apparently always voted for president and vice president based on who had a penis, and that makes it logical for all women (and metrosexuals who want to impress the ladies) to rush to the polls to cast a vote for the candidate with a vagina.
Funny thing, that... I'd always spent so much time studying the issues, looking at their records, thinking about their positions, weighing the relative merits of the things I agreed with them on and the things I disagreed with, and thinking about the long-term impact of the candidates on the nation and the generations to come. What a fool I've been! All I had to know was: what's dangling [or not] between the candidate's legs (face-palm) when I think of all the time I've wasted over the years...
Sadly, millions voted for Obama to have the "first African American President" without regard to his thin resume, and so now history will forever record that the first African American President was former coke-head community organizer with lots of obnoxious swagger but who disastrously DOUBLED the debt while driving poverty and unemployment UP (look at the record low labor participation rate). There are many fantastic and far more capable and proven African Americans (politicians, former military officers, scientists, academics, CEOs, etc) who would have been FAR better as the first one in the White House.
Is Hillary REALLY the woman who should be our FIRST woman president???? REALLY??? There were only 150,000,000 to choose from... yeah, the Trumpster's not the best male in the country either, but he's not trying to go down in history as the first male president (First oompaloompah, perhaps, but nobody in the future will point to him and say "you should be like that person").
Again, the left attacks the messenger when the truth comes out and shines the light on their nefarious deeds. They never attack the message because you cannot attack the truth and win.
Nobody's listening to your noise and distractions anymore, shill. Hillary, her campaign, the whole DNC, and all of the people who still support her after what's come to light are absolute scum that are in the same sphere of degenerates as child molesters.
You are an affront to all that is good, decent, and honest. A vile, stinking, cesspool of disease and rot.
I so wish for there to be a hell so that the lot of you may burn in it for all eternity.
O'keefe does indeed edit the tapes to get the meaty bits into a short package for most users... just like all TV news people do every day with everything they air.
Unlike all those other "journalists" however, he puts the raw videos online so everybody can see what he edited. It's a clever left-wing talking point to yammer on about him editing his videos, with the implication that the editing means everything in the videos must be ignored.
It was also clever to have a Democrat AG prosecute him for document forgery (using a fake driver's license) to gain access to people in the abortion industry who were being very clever about who they were talking to about selling baby parts. That made it so the left has another phony talking point: "he's a felon, don't trust him!". Interesting that I cannot recall any "journalist" ever being prosecuted that same way for that same offense - the 60 minutes crew would never had a show.
> Ghere are many fantastic and far more capable and proven African Americans who would have been FAR better as the first one in the White House.
> Trumpster's not the best male in the country either, but he's not trying to go down in history as the first male president (First oompaloompah, perhaps
Orange IS the new black.
He uses in-person meetings, phone calls, paper documents, and a Boeing 767.
He also tweets to the general public, of course.
Hillary, on the other hand, needs ten people to help her tweet. LOL
Unless George Clinton of the Parliament-Funkadelic is picked for VP, I don't think I'll be voting this election.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
I love this - you clown liberals LOVE to bring this "O'Keefe edited the videos" bull crap up as reason to ignore what he brings forward, but CONTINUE to watch NBC and MSNBC who have, on MANY occasions over the years, edited videos and audio to make people look much worse. You hang on to NBC/MSNBC nuts like they're gospel. You liberals really are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. Grow up and stop putting on blinders because your team was caught raping the rights of others. Willfully ignoring facts to justify criminal activity means you're part of the problem.
We've already got Clintongate, and if we get into a war with Russia we're all cooked.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Fruits and Vegetables.
I'll bet Bill Gates could have set up a secure personal email server...
I'm not *suprised* the Dems lumped candidates into buckets based solely on race and gender, rather than perhaps QUALIFICATIONS FOR JOB, but I do find it interesting and illustrative.
While your criticism is valid I don't see why you single out the Dems.
It's not like Trumps supporters even care if he is qualified. (Since even an inbred redneck should be able to see that he isn't.)
The main "quality" appears to be that he is a racist asshole and for some reason some people believe that they will burn less when everything crashes and burn.
I'm not *suprised* the Dems lumped candidates into buckets based solely on race and gender, rather than perhaps QUALIFICATIONS FOR JOB, but I do find it interesting and illustrative
The concern trolling is adorable but misplaced.
All this shows is that one guy grouped people based on the obvious political signalling implications of each pick, which is pretty much the main effect of a VP pick in the general election. There's no reason they would have gone forward with an unqualified candidate based solely on gender (such as certain nominees named McCain).
I would hope that if someone like Paul Ryan was making the list his categories would be something like:
Legistlative Experience
Executive Experience (govt)
Executive Experience (private sector)
Foreign Policy Experience
I would hope I get a T-Rex for my birthday. I think I have a better than you.
Paul Ryan would choose his pick the same way every other nominee does, to balance the ticket and improve his general election chances. Qualifications matter only if they pass a minimum bar, after that no one really cares.
McCain chose Palin because he needed a wildcard to beat Obama (he forgot about making sure she was over the minimum bar).
Obama chose Biden to be a safe white guy with lots of experience to balance the cool black guy with relatively little experience.
Romney chose Ryan because Ryan was respected by the Tea Party (which was very dubious of Romney).
Trump chose Pence to reassure the GOP that Trump would be under adult supervision.
In 2020 Ryan is liable to choose someone like Marco Rubio, a Hispanic who can repair some of the damage done by Trump and start flipping some culturally conservative Hispanics to the Republican column.
I stole this Sig
It doesnt. Those are obviously candidates that would target specific demographics. VP doesnt have to go after women votes (Clinton has that covered), looks like they decided on a VP that would most appeal to white population.
Isnt it obvious with Bernie being in a category of his own?
Are you sure the only difference between men and women is the genitals?
Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
No CEO in their right mind would say yes to a huge pay cut.
I always thought Bill Gates might run for President. I don't really know what his political leanings are, though I assume he's most likely Democrat. He has name recognition, and I bet the "average" American would give him a lot of props as a leader.
My own view of him is tainted through some of the things Microsoft has done, but I don't think he'd be any worse than our current crop of candidates.
Why no mention of this on 'Climatedot'? Too truthful for you?
I'm not *suprised* the Dems lumped candidates into buckets based solely on race and gender, rather than perhaps QUALIFICATIONS FOR JOB, ...
The word "qualifications" in your case has a very broad meaning. You need to understand that those categories are set for "strategic" in order to help making decision. Once you understood, then categorized candidates into groups of expecting people to vote can be seen as a "qualification" as well. If you are talking about those who can get jobs done while in the office, then you will never find one in politics because you should know why...
Also, I highly doubt that Republicant part would differently strategize their plan. It is about politic after all. Those list you gave could possibly be in Democrate's plan as well, but they do NOT play a major roll right now. If they could not get elected first, what's good to have those plan for? You should already know how majority of Americans vote (and it is very similar strategic to get a job in a big company where you need to get through their HR first). So please do not be "not surprised" that this happened in Democrate party.
> Romney chose Ryan because Ryan was respected by the Tea Party (which was very dubious of Romney).
Romney sought to balance what he thought was the important, difference, political positions on the issues of the day.
> Trump chose Pence to reassure the GOP that Trump would be under adult supervision.
Trump sought to balance on what he thought was the important difference - temperment and government experience.
Clinton sought to balance what she thinks is important - gentals.
> Also, I highly doubt that Republicant part would differently strategize their plan.
We do not have to guess what Republicans *might* do, we *know* what they did.
On choosing Paul Ryan, Romney sought to balance what he thought was the important, difference, political positions on the issues of the day.
With Pence, Trump sought to balance on what he thought was the important difference - temperment and government experience.
Clinton sought to balance what she thinks is important - gentals.
For very long time all presidents were all white men, now we have a black man. We may have a woman for next president. I wonder if future presidents can be someone who is single (not married), someone with different religion than Christian, or with facial hair (I think Teddy Roosevelt was the last with facial hair), or someone that is paraplegic (other than FDR).
mfwright@batnet.com
"binders of women"
Bill sure has enough vices for the job.
I love this - you clown conservatives LOVE to bring this "NBC and MSNBC edited the videos" bull crap up as reason to ignore what they bring forward, but CONTINUE to watch Fox and O'Keefe who have, on MANY occasions over the years, edited videos and audio to make people look much worse. You hang on to O'Keefe and Fox nuts like they're gospel. You conservatives really are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. Grow up and stop putting on blinders because your team was caught raping the rights of others. Willfully ignoring facts to justify criminal activity means you're part of the problem.
FTFY.
> You don't have anything from the FEC, but your claim that you do...makes you unreliable.
So, why don't we read my submission again? Here's a link to it for the lazy: https://slashdot.org/submissio...
Did you see the words the words "FEC records of disbursements to her"? Check where the link points to, it goes to here:
https://beta.fec.gov/data/disb...
See that FEC.GOV in the URL? Can you tell me who runs this site? Yeah, it's the FEC, who you said I "don't have anything from" just now.
That data shows this lady being on the MoveOn.org payroll. You know, the person who faked all that crap at the Trump protests (which is *on video*)? And who bragged about creating violence at the rallies? But that's "nothing" right? Just because a completely independent video shows her acting and blocking the rally with a rented Lexus, creating violence, etc. Normal people would call that "corroborating evidence" of whose payroll she's on.
By all means tell me how the FEC isn't the FEC, how this woman wasn't paid by the people the FEC says she was paid by, or how she's not clearly the same person in the videos. Go look at the FEC data and see who she works for. I'm not asking you to take my word for anything, just to look at the facts in front of your eyes.
Romney reported that "women's groups" brought his administration "whole binders full of women". Who exactly created "binders full of women" and brought them to the state house?
That would be MassGAP, an organization created by and affiliated with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus. The front page of their web site lists the candidates they are endorsing this year. Guess which political party they all belong to? That's right, the binders full of women were created by a bunch of Democrats. Because that's what Democrats DO, that's how they see the world, men vs women, black vs white, us vs them.