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Uber's Self-Driving Truck Went on a 120-Mile Beer Run To Make History (businessinsider.com)

An anonymous reader writes: In the arms race to build self-driving vehicles, Uber-owned Otto just reached a landmark milestone by completing the first-ever commercial cargo run for a self-driving truck. On October 20, the self-driving truck left Fort Collins, Colorado at 1 a.m. and drove itself 120 miles on I-25 to Colorado Springs. The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps, moved to the backseat alongside a crowd of transportation officials to watch the historic ride. 2,000 cases of Budweiser beer filled the trailer. "We're just thrilled. We do think this is the future of transportation," James Sembrot, senior director of logistics strategy at Anheuser-Busch, told Business Insider.

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  1. like in the movie? by k6mfw · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't RTFA, I guess this turn was able to outsmart Buford T. Justice.

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    1. Re:like in the movie? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      But, it should have been Coors beer....and a black Trans Am running blocker!!!

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    2. Re:like in the movie? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      WHERE ARE YOU, YOU SOMBITCH?

    3. Re:like in the movie? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      And a trip from Texarkana to Atlanta.

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    4. Re:like in the movie? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

      2,000 crates of Budweiser? They weren't risking much it it flipped over. Nobody's going to cry over that.

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    5. Re:like in the movie? by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, it wouldn't be the first time someone made a Black Self-Driving Trans-Am...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    6. Re:like in the movie? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      You know...having the TA be self driving would take 99% of the full out of it....

      But there's ONE plus I can think of....

      If it were self driving, you'd not have to pull off to the side of the road to "jump Frog"......

      ;)

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    7. Re:like in the movie? by mrbester · · Score: 1

      Thought that was bootlegging

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    8. Re:like in the movie? by SargentDU · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. But why wasn't it Coors? Isn't that brewed in Colorado?

    9. Re:like in the movie? by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      2,000 crates of Budweiser? They weren't risking much it it flipped over. Nobody's going to cry over that.

      HA! Exactly what I was thinking. Of all the beer they could ship, that was the worst beer made in Colorado –good reasoning if there was an accident.

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    10. Re:like in the movie? by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

      You know...having the TA be self driving would take 99% of the full out of it....

      I'm not sure if you meant fun, fuel, or fdlsadjfaldskfj. Since none of them make sense, I guess it doesn't really matter.

    11. Re:like in the movie? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Budweiser has a very large brewery in Fort Collins. Right off I25.

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    12. Re:like in the movie? by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      I also refer this movie as a tutorial for proper use of CB radio. I'm old enough to remember when a license was required to use CB but with the craze during 1970s, the FCC threw in the towel and declared it license free. In fact those that have the FCC paper copy of their CB license is quite exclusive, like being a member of a club no longer able to join. Some predict GMRS may go either license free or the freq allocated to some other use.

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    13. Re:like in the movie? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Budweiser has a very large brewery in Fort Collins. Right off I25.

      And there is a large feedlot right next to it, where they collect the piss.

    14. Re:like in the movie? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      You know...having the TA be self driving would take 99% of the full out of it....

      I'm not sure if you meant fun, fuel, or fdlsadjfaldskfj. Since none of them make sense, I guess it doesn't really matter.

      Yep..I mean FUN....damned fumble-fingers....

      Yes, fast cars are FUN to drive. Self driving ones will take a lot of the pleasure out the lives of us that buy cars that are meant to be enjoyed any time you take them on the open road....

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    15. Re:like in the movie? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      I also refer this movie as a tutorial for proper use of CB radio. I'm old enough to remember when a license was required to use CB but with the craze during 1970s, the FCC threw in the towel and declared it license free. In fact those that have the FCC paper copy of their CB license is quite exclusive, like being a member of a club no longer able to join. Some predict GMRS may go either license free or the freq allocated to some other use.

      Yeah..I put one in my car a few years back..found out a few things have REALLY CHANGED.

      Apparently nowadays, if you refer to someone as "good buddy"...it has homosexual connotations..

      :(

      Sigh....

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    16. Re:like in the movie? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      Time for smokey and the bandit 2020?

    17. Re:like in the movie? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      Buford doesn't get out of bed for Budweiser, I'm guessing. He's definitely the sort to chase after Coors to great comedic effect, however, for anyone out there who doesn't get the reference (shame on you!).

    18. Re:like in the movie? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Oh whatever you snobs.

      Budweiser is a good beer.

      Every microbrewery seems to think that massive amounts of hops is the only way to make a beer. I am sick of it.

      Give me a good old American pale ale any day.

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    19. Re:like in the movie? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Same here a lot of what people call 'good beer' feels like it is burning a hole through my stomach and the carbs make me nauseous. Nice draft pilsner is just fine.

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    20. Re:like in the movie? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      And there is a large feedlot right next to it, where they collect the piss.

      The GTA V beer is spoofing Budweiser's anthem, I wonder why... of course they also say it's German but I think they got it confused with Bismarck, North Dakota or something. They might be responsible for World War I, World War II, blood, sweat, tears and gas chambers but bad beer is simply inhumane.

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    21. Re:like in the movie? by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1

      Except that Budweiser is not a pale ale, it's a pilsener. Pale Ales have flavor, pilseners are just bitter, and thin and taste the same going in as they do coming out.

    22. Re:like in the movie? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Thought that was bootlegging

      Only if you take it east of Texarkana, TX.

      I never did understand that one back in the day....of course now you can get Coors most anywhere, but it was a fact that you couldn't get it further than TX.

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    23. Re:like in the movie? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      In ost countries, (american) Budweiser would not even be classified as a beer.

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    24. Re:like in the movie? by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      Darn. In that case, give me a good old America pilsner then :)

      And as far as the tastes the same coming out as going in thing. I'll take your word for it.

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    25. Re:like in the movie? by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

      The only time I would like a self-driving vehicle is taking a long trip. You would be able to take a nap and rest up before you reached your destination. Otherwise, I'll drive.

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    26. Re:like in the movie? by CWCheese · · Score: 1

      Puttin' The Snowman outta business....

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    27. Re:like in the movie? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

      ... Of all the beer they could ship ...

      No kidding. Ft Collins has some top craft and micro-brews and they sent a truckload of piss. OTOH, it was going to rabid religious zealot-ville, aka Colo Springs, so maybe ... no harm, no foul?

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    28. Re:like in the movie? by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Budweiser is a good beer.

      Good: no, drinkable if you're pressed: yes; if you follow the 1516 german beer purity law you'd need to be grossly incompetent to produce unpalatable swill. Thus, no rice additions and, especially, no urine.

      I'm talking about actual Budweiser rather than the toxic liquid from AnB InBev, of course.

      If you're looking for good beer, though, you need to look elsewhere.

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    29. Re:like in the movie? by DNAgent · · Score: 1

      They used Bud because if if it wrecked, burst into flame, and burned down to the ground nothing of value would be lost.

    30. Re:like in the movie? by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      Right - Coors from Texarkana to Georgia

      Geez - these young people just don't understand history!!

  2. To be fair, a pretty easy run by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    As anyone who has driven I-25 from Ft. Collins to Colorado Springs, it's all wide highway, and the average speed is around 4 MPH.

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    1. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by lostinbrave · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhm I have never experienced 4 mph except in metro Denver, and the slower speeds in traffic are where more accidents happen anyway and there are more problems. And yes I used to make the drive fairly often.

    2. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by DirkDaring · · Score: 4, Funny

      He was clearly exaggerating. It's more like 7 mph.

    3. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Key is "used to", anytime I've driven North or South of Denver in the past year anything south of Ft Collins or north of Colorado Springs is a crawl pretty much any time of day... stop and go on a freeway around highway 64 at 10am on a weekday. Ugh.

      Obviously the post was a bit tongue in cheek, but not by much!

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    4. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by taustin · · Score: 1

      From my experience, that's because Colorado keeps all highways torn up all the time, and Colorado drivers are required to come to a complete stop to examine each and every orange cone, individually.

      However, I did notice that nobody stopped to observe the pickup truck that was dripping fire and smelled like fireworks. That, apparently, is not noteworthy is Colorado.

    5. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention there was no traffic on the road that late at night, and more importantly, you don't learn anything scientific from doing this (and afaict, they don't even claim to have learned anything), it's just a publicity stunt.

      And Uber has been doing a lot of these kinds of publicity stunts lately. My theory is that they are trying to pump up their valuation for an IPO (or another round of funding or whatever).

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    6. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No traffic on the road. Including human freight drivers. Imagine how nice logistics will be when we can render them obsolete just like the cabbies.

    7. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by slashdice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It was probably embarrassed. I mean, would you like to be seen with budweiser?

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    8. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      As anyone who has driven I-25 from Ft. Collins to Colorado Springs, it's all wide highway, and the average speed is around 4 MPH.

      That average hides a deeper truth, that I-25 driving consists of two states: going 80 MPH, and being at a dead stop.

    9. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Not to mention there was no traffic on the road that late at night, and more importantly, you don't learn anything scientific from doing this (and afaict, they don't even claim to have learned anything), it's just a publicity stunt. And Uber has been doing a lot of these kinds of publicity stunts lately. My theory is that they are trying to pump up their valuation for an IPO (or another round of funding or whatever).

      Well, it's obvious that post-SDC somebody will be operating this huge fleet of self-driving taxi/transport vehicles. At some point it's just about being the most hyped company to get the funding to ride the bubble like say Amazon did. Sure, they lost 96% of their share value in two years when it popped but those who never got on the hype bandwagon mostly lost everything and are nowhere to be found. To be honest I don't really mind a SDC bubble where everyone goes crazy because it will also accelerate change, the dotcom boom/bust might not have been good for investors but the transition from offline to online went pretty snappy.

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    10. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Well, it's obvious that post-SDC somebody will be operating this huge fleet of self-driving taxi/transport vehicles

      But it's not obvious SDCs will be here any time soon.

      Sure, they lost 96% of their share value in two years when it popped but those who never got on the hype bandwagon mostly lost everything and are nowhere to be found. To be honest I don't really mind a SDC bubble where everyone goes crazy because it will also accelerate change, the dotcom boom/bust might not have been good for investors but the transition from offline to online went pretty snappy.

      That's an interesting point. Bubbles aren't the worst thing.

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    11. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      You know, this is a detail I hadn't thought of before.

      There will still be trucks making deliveries during the day, but the bulk would be fine going at off-peak hours. For safety or fuel-efficiency or whatever. They still need someone to load and unload still, so it's not like all the logistics are freed up.

      But you know what this means? The poor people that still drive their own cars are going to see bumper-to-bumper semi-trucks all the damn time at 2am when the bars get out.

    12. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

      ...the pickup truck that was dripping fire and smelled like fireworks

      Ummm. Yea, sorry about that, dude. Tossed a roachie in the back without checking it. Lost the whole truckload of Durban Poison and full bud shatter. Boss was piiiissed.

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    13. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Now THAT deserves +5, Insightful if anything does.

      P.S. for non-natives, the 80MPH includes in town where the speed limit is 55... until of course the traffic makes you stop as stated.

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    14. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Around 40% of freight is night-only runs as it is. It's increasing as more places allow double-tandem 80ft trailers.

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    15. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Uber's version of "self-driving" certainly seems to be a lot less practical and a lot more publicity than others. They don't even try anything difficult.

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    16. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yes lol. All their cars still have steering wheels. If it isn't upper-management who is trying to fool investors, then it is the director of the research program trying to convince his/her boss that they are getting their money's worth.

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    17. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by stub667 · · Score: 1

      I think that the driver moving away from the wheel while transport officials watched and not getting arrested is a pretty big deal. It might not be a technical hurdle they overcome, but is it a milestone on the legislative and psychological side. We have years worth of these 'publicity stunts' that need to happen before the general public lets autonomous vehicles on the road without supervision.

      Its going to be just like the aviation or space industry, where no politician wants to have their name associated with the headlines about the first fatality. A majority of politicians need to believe there is 0% chance of it affecting their re-election, which isn't going to happen so it needs to be buried in committees and red tape.

    18. Re:To be fair, a pretty easy run by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Your points definitely are something to consider. This is my follow-up reasoning on the topic: there have already been fatalities involving self-driving cars, and many states already have laws allowing them, so I don't think it will be a problem.

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  3. Self driving cars don't have to be perfect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... they just have to be better than humans. And sadly, in many areas they already are - give it a few more years for the remaining rough spots.

    1. Re:Self driving cars don't have to be perfect... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... they just have to be better than humans. And sadly, in many areas they already are - give it a few more years for the remaining rough spots.

      One important difference:

      When humans screw up they're usually not worth suing.

      When self-driving cars screw up there's a large, wealthy company to try to sue.

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    2. Re:Self driving cars don't have to be perfect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The entire point of car insurance is to make humans worth suing.

    3. Re:Self driving cars don't have to be perfect... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      The entire point of car insurance is to make humans worth suing.

      Actually the point of car insurance is to make sure you can afford to fix or replace my car when you hit it.

      Large underwriters with throngs of lawyers they keep deliberately chained and underfed to increase their viciousness actually decrease the likelihood you'll win a law suit.

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  4. Beer? by tdknox · · Score: 2

    It was Budweiser. I wouldn't call that beer.

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    1. Re:Beer? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      From TFA: "Eventually, Otto started adding dummy trailers, eventually filling them with dummy beer"

      So you're not wrong...

    2. Re:Beer? by Zephyn · · Score: 1

      Agreed. When they're driving 2000 cases of Fat Tire down from Fort Collins, you'll know they have more confidence in the system.

    3. Re:Beer? by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call Fat Tire beer either.

    4. Re:Beer? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      It's all just yeast shit anyway.

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    5. Re:Beer? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      They considered better quality beer to big a risk to transport with the unproven technology. Crashing and spilling Budweiser wasn't considered much of a risk.

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    6. Re:Beer? by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      It's all just yeast shit anyway.

      In that case, wine is also yeast shit, and spirits are distilled/concentrated yeast shit.

    7. Re:Beer? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Thank you for playing.

      Mt Dew for the win.

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    8. Re:Beer? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Is one of those words "Foster"?

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    9. Re:Beer? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Sugar shit?

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    10. Re:Beer? by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      Sugar shit?

      Nah...Sugar is too expensive. It's all high-fructose corn syrup backed by US gov't subsidies!

  5. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps,"

    Seems like an important missing piece of functionality

    1. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What they're claiming as self-driving is lane keeping with self-adjusting speed.
      When the thing manages to overtake / rejoin a lane in a safe manner, that will be news.
      When it'll be able to turn around at an (unplanned) stop and take an alternative road by itself, that will be news.
      Going in a (semi-)straight line with constant speed is just the very first step of a very complex problem.

    2. Re:Hmm... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      For trucks especially, they need to safely change lanes when there are issues on the shoulder, not just slam on the breaks if something is in front of them.

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    3. Re: Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why not? That's what human drivers do.

    4. Re:Hmm... by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking. How long do these humans have to train their replacements before they're jobless?

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    5. Re: Hmm... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You would need 1 caretaker driver on board to handle the end points.

      Not sure what you mean by "end points", but couldn't the trucks stop at something like a rest area on the edge of town and the human gets on there and take it the last few miles - sort of like how it works with ships & pilots?

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    6. Re:Hmm... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the functionality that's missing is what's missing from the human drivers.

      Merging can be a smooth operation, just like operating a zipper. But too often a dick jams it up.

      Take, for example, some clueless person coming on the highway who cannot make up their mind to speed up and go ahead of you or slow down and drop in behind you. Then there's the idiots who take it as a personal insult if anyone should be ahead of their supreme greatness and drop in from the fast line right ahead of you just so they can get off one car length sooner, even if you yourself weren't exiting.

      That's even before you get to the distracted drivers.

      So instead of a seamless progression of vehicles politely making small adjustments to keep everything flowing evenly, you have clots of Goofy-on-the-highway and the inevitable accidents.

      There are actually likely to be some effective algorithms that can help with this, but it's not something done lightly.

    7. Re: Hmm... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Why not? That's what human drivers do.

      Touché!

    8. Re: Hmm... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's not a bad idea. Although in Florida, they've been closing rest stops down over the years.

      A variation of that might be the truck weighing stations. Because they're not handling automotive traffic, there would be less of an issue with other vehicles.

    9. Re: Hmm... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      With automated interstate driving, you could send a truck from NYC to LA in about 1 day.

      I have no idea how you think a truck can go across the country in 1 day. Sure, some guys recently did the Cannonball Run in just over a day, but that was at high speed and with plenty of tricks to not be stopped by police.

      Google maps shows the time as 41 hours, and that assumes no traffic and traveling the posted speed limit. From my recent perspective of having driven large amounts of miles while on vacation (4,100 this month and 3,600 in May), I can guarantee you need to add a few hours to whatever Google says, especially since these trucks will still be limited to the posted speed limit.

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    10. Re: Hmm... by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      You would need 1 caretaker driver on board to handle the end points.

      Not sure what you mean by "end points", but couldn't the trucks stop at something like a rest area on the edge of town and the human gets on there and take it the last few miles - sort of like how it works with ships & pilots?

      Exactly. Someday a driver wouldn't have to stay on board the entire time. The relatively easy and predictable interstate driving could be delegated to the computer (which can drive continuously without ever getting drowsy or distracted). A driver familiar with local roads would hop on to handle the more complicated driving between the pick-up/delivery end points and nearest interstate entrance/exit ramp.

    11. Re:Hmm... by swalve · · Score: 1

      Right, but it is the part of driving that is tedious for the humans. Kind of like autopilot on airliners. Let the humans do what they are (currently) good at, and let them read a book for the boring parts.

    12. Re:Hmm... by swalve · · Score: 1

      Also, as more and more drivers become automated, they can do things like leaving the right lane open for easier merging.

    13. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Jobless is the entire point.

      The belief that a job is somehow the point of human existence is a ridiculous idea. Sooner or later we'll move to a more or less jobless society, where your worth isn't based on how many hours you spend filing TPS reports.

    14. Re:Hmm... by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, we're very far away from a jobless society. Every time we've automated things, we've invented new jobs for people and are actually employing far more people than we did before the automation.

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  6. "Budweiser"??? Why didn't they ship beer? by sehlat · · Score: 1

    Inquiring mind wants to know.

    1. Re:"Budweiser"??? Why didn't they ship beer? by sehlat · · Score: 1

      Simple answer: They thought the truck might crash and they didn't want to waste real beer. With a rating of "awful" on Beer Advocate, Budweiser is fine to waste.

      Good point. If they shipped, say, Guiness or Carlsberg and the truck crashed, there would be people stumbling around in a daze mumbling "The horror. The horror."

  7. Legality by captaindomon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps, moved to the backseat alongside a crowd of transportation officials to watch the historic ride."
    Slashdot: Is that... Leeegal?
    Emperor Uber: I'll make it legal!

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    1. Re:Legality by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      "The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps, moved to the backseat alongside a crowd of transportation officials to watch the historic ride."

      What struck me most about this is not that there was a driver in this autonomous vehicle. That's normal. It's that he got in back with a CROWD of officials. In a truck like that, a "crowd" is what, ONE or TWO?

    2. Re:Legality by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I got the impression that hey went into the back with the officials to then watch the historic ride on a monitor. If that isn't a commentary on society today, I don't know what is.

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    3. Re:Legality by HeckRuler · · Score: 2

      Stuff a postal worker in there and I believe they can ram a firetruck and still have right-of-way.

  8. The future of transportation is no employees? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    What a future!

    1. Re:The future of transportation is no employees? by balbeir · · Score: 1

      The future is deplorable

  9. One of the best quote from Humans Need Not Apply by JcMorin · · Score: 2
  10. did it drive like most truckers? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and decide to pass another truck at 0.001mph in order to block all traffic for 10 miles?
    Honestly if you are not passing by at least 4mph dont pass. they should let cops ticket truckers for passing without using their gas pedal.

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    1. Re:did it drive like most truckers? by JeffOwl · · Score: 1

      If you want to get pedantic... On the highways in Colorado (65MPH two lanes in your direction in our example), if there is a vehicle in the right hand lane doing the speed limit, and you are in the left hand lane, also doing the speed limit, you are by definition not passing and are in violation of the law and can be cited. The law in CO does not allow for running in the passing lane slower than other traffic, even if you are doing the speed limit.

    2. Re:did it drive like most truckers? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      Honestly if you are not passing by at least 4mph dont pass. they should let cops ticket truckers for passing without using their gas pedal.

      Uh, have you ever been behind a truck going up a long hill? You know how they slow down? That's because they have the "pedal to the floor" and yet the engine pulling that much weight can only manage so much going up a long incline.

      Now, put that same truck on a straightaway where they're stuck behind some idiot or they're forced to get out of the right lane to avoid some idiot who doesn't know how to merge on an on-ramp or whatever. But then the road suddenly starts to slope up A BIT. Doesn't have to be a lot to make acceleration on a truck that size quite slow if not non-existent.

      Couple that with a guy in a car in the right lane who starts going up the incline and starts pressing down the accelerator a bit more, and suddenly the truck can't even keep up, let alone pass.

      I've never driven a semi. But I've driven large trucks a couple times. It's a MUCH different experience than driving a car. Heck, it's even a different experience than driving a mid-size moving truck, which might still be able to accelerate up a hill.

      Obviously some truckers do stupid or annoying things sometimes. But having been in a situation myself on the highway when I thought I was going to be able to pass, but then the truck just couldn't accelerate because of a mild change in slope... I have an appreciation for the problems truckers have to deal with. It's easy in most cars to accelerate another 10-15 mph to pass reasonably fast; in trucks this may only be possible to do quickly going downhill.

      A final note is that when driving a vehicle that large, quick changes in general are harder and potentially dangerous. Thus, truckers often don't like to change lanes as much and they tend to go at constant speeds when possible. So, depending on the exact situations you're talking about, in some cases it may not have been that the trucker was even trying to "pass" but was simply trying to drive in a reasonable consistent fashion (rather than a lot of car drivers who tend to be a lot more aggressive and needlessly maneuver around a lot).

    3. Re:did it drive like most truckers? by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      Even better is when they do that going uphill at 35mph.

    4. Re:did it drive like most truckers? by zvar · · Score: 1

      To be pedantic, it's fuel (diesel) not gas that semi's use.
      But what is happening is you have trucks in which both are governed to a max speed by the company to save to money on fuel. While both are governed to 62, one might be set to 62.3 and another set to 62.5. Yes, it is very annoying and one of the most debated topics on a truckers forum I'm on is who should back out to let the 4 wheelers pass.

  11. We're just thrilled! by swb · · Score: 5, Funny

    "We're just thrilled. We do think this is the future of transportation," James Sembrot, senior director of logistics strategy at Anheuser-Busch, told Business Insider.

    "I have a bonus target that kicks in when I cut our labor tab by $2 million, this will easily help me get there by eliminating a bunch of Teamster hacks and their pension contributions," Sembrot added.

    "Wait, is your recorder still running? Can we cut that last part out, I want to keep the focus on how AB-InBev is embracing new technologies, that last part is kind of off the record."

    1. Re:We're just thrilled! by operagost · · Score: 1

      So you're saying that AB is swinging left with Amy Schumer commercials hawking their lousy beer "to people of all genders", while undermining the pet leftist cause of giant labor unions? Diabolical.

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    2. Re:We're just thrilled! by slashdice · · Score: 1

      You could get a job as a drug mule.

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    3. Re:We're just thrilled! by psmoot · · Score: 1

      "I have a bonus target that kicks in when I cut our labor tab by $2 million, this will easily help me get there by eliminating a bunch of Teamster hacks and their pension contributions," Sembrot added.

      If they keep cutting costs, maybe Bud will get cheap enough to be worth drinking. Nope, thought about it, it won't.

    4. Re:We're just thrilled! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Teamsters aren't above using, ahem, "persuasive" techniques on human drivers who don't toe the line. Don't be surprised to see a lot of slashed tires, cut brake lines, etc. on these new robotic rigs.

      We saw how well that worked for the Luddites.

    5. Re:We're just thrilled! by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I think that there is a Walmart greeter position with your name on it.

      Welcome to Walmart, I love you...

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    6. Re:We're just thrilled! by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      It is not exactly the cheapest beer on the shelf as it is.

      Personally, I'm a Hamms man myself. Or Old Style if I want to change things up. Both are cheaper than Bud.

      I drink Bud when I want to feel classy.

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    7. Re:We're just thrilled! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      and if you go to jail / prison then you get a doctor that does more then the ER and takes medicaid

  12. Machine learning's got a lot to figure out. by SolemnLord · · Score: 1

    Normally I just go to the liquor store a few blocks away.

    1. Re:Machine learning's got a lot to figure out. by SolemnLord · · Score: 2

      That would be a great joke if the summary didn't mention it was Budweiser. :(

  13. The driver by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    "The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps,"

    Uh, what? So the truck was able to go in a straight line in Colorado? Has anyone been on I-25?

  14. Maximun Overdrive.... by tekrat · · Score: 2

    When these self driving trucks need fuel, will they take a truck stop hostage???

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  15. good for humanity, bad for truckers by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1, Funny

    My heart sank a little reading that headline. We've all known it's been in the works for a few years now. It was just a matter of time. Of course, as long as they still need somebody in the cab....

    Now that we're ramping up the Misogynerd Narrative again (all those evil assigned males chasing the cisfemale hunnies away from programming careers!), I was thinking about maybe polishing off my CDL and giving long haul another shot. Why the hell would I want to be an evil assigned male programmer who hates women because of the gender she was assigned at birth when I could instead be just another lady driver? Granted, there's a creeper here and there, but I'd rather deal with creepers than feminists who think there's some grand conspiracy to make it so you need a dick before you can get a compiler to work.

    Here's a question for our resident SJWs. I've met way more lady drivers than womyn-born-womyn programmers. In fact, I don't know any womyn-born-womyn programmers because they refuse to put in the work to create a lasting understanding of the subject matter. I've known some womyn-born-womyn who can fake it for a few months, but none care to actually grok it. (Now, transfemale programmers, I've got binders full of 'em! Well not really but it just goes to prove that the problem isn't the body part between women's ears and sure as hell not some "all men" conspiracy; the problem is the cisfemale entitlement complex.)

    Once all the jobs that womyn-born-womyn have been doing like factory work, truck driving, phone answering, and yes HR and accounting, are automated and all that's left are tech jobs, how do you suppose womyn-born-womyn are going to support themselves? What kind of welfare system do you propose that a.) will prevent "misogynerd" faggots like me from getting a sex change to qualify for; b.) will allow womyn-born-womyn to continue to be able to live independently; and c.) will keep womyn-born-womyn able to continue refusing to learn programming?

    We could just go to basic income, but then misogynerd tranny programmers like me would qualify! And think about all the other assigned males who'd qualify! And what the hell would happen to the cisfemale entitlement complex if that happened?!

    1. Re:good for humanity, bad for truckers by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      Clearly, you have a lot going on inside...

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  16. Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Self-driving tech is still at a point where cars are having accidents (some even fatal) , and requires car drivers to be in the driving seat and have their hands on the wheel.
    For them to have a fully loaded semi on the freeway and the driver to get in the back seat was blatantly irresponsible. This experiment should never even have been legal.

    1. Re:Should never have been allowed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Right, because you have lots of evidence showing human drivers are safer? I doubt very much that the tech is worse than Jane Q. Driver (more women than men drive) with her 100IQ, and her high fructose corn syrup riddled reflexes. The average person in the US is 30 pound overweight and pre-diabetic meaning they have piss poor reaction time. Even a buggy AI should be able to drive better than them.

    2. Re:Should never have been allowed by chrysrobyn · · Score: 4, Informative

      For them to have a fully loaded semi on the freeway and the driver to get in the back seat was blatantly irresponsible. This experiment should never even have been legal.

      According to TFA, they've been preparing for this one run for 6 months. Mapping it out, training the AI on the dynamics of loaded trailers, sending humans down the road to see when the safest time is, etc. You can bet more than a few lawyers were consulted during the course of this work between two companies.

      AI cars have such a low safety requirement, they're going to have to swerve around them to avoid tripping over it. In cars, they have soccer moms with screaming kids and middle managers gabbing on cell phones, distracted driving accounts for half of the traffic out there. In the case of a commercial trucker, we're talking overtired and bored. An AI with an adequate vision system can easily out perform the most distracted drivers on controlled roads in perfect weather. We talk about self driving cars as though they only win the safety game with 0% accidents, but if safety concerned moms and wealthy business people buy them, I think tail end of the safety curve is going to get chopped off, bringing the averages up. Hell, I'd chip in for a retrofit on a BMW I keep seeing on my commute.

    3. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Urgh. IMHO BMWs are SO overpriced and overrated. The ride is usually stupidly hard. The assumption is that this is done to increase handling, but it is really not necessary to do that. Look at Jags or Ferraris, they don;t ride as hard as BMWs but handle just as well if not better.
      And like nearly all German cars, BMWs are about as soulless and interesting to look at as a doctors waiting room.

    4. Re:Should never have been allowed by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I agree. It should never be allowed because of [insert guesses about a system I know nothing about]

    5. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Because some mystery company has secretly come up with a fully safe autonomous system that is better than everything else out there including Tersla, but no-one has heard about, and decided to only put it on a semi? Yeah right whatever dude.

    6. Re:Should never have been allowed by j-beda · · Score: 2

      Urgh. IMHO BMWs are SO overpriced and overrated.....

      I think you missunderstood the parent. chrysrobyn was saying that there was a BMW often seen on their commute that is very poorly driven and that chrysrobyn would contribute money to get it retrofitted as an AI driven vehicle since even with the current flawed AIs, the AI would be a better driver than the current human driver.

    7. Re:Should never have been allowed by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Right, because you have lots of evidence showing human drivers are safer?

      The onus is on the company 'changing things' to prove that their change will not cause issues, not the other way around. Very few 'Jane Q. Drivers' would ever be able to pass a long haul truck license test. Having quick reflexes is a very small part of driving, in fact the whole point of driving is to anticipate what will happen. Unless in exceptional circumstances, if you need reflexes then you are doing something very wrong.

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    8. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      >> Right, because you have lots of evidence showing human drivers are safer? I doubt very much that the tech is worse than Jane Q. Driver...

      A qualified truck driver is ipso facto OK to drive a rig on the road. Take my chances that they are better than some new, unproven system? Damn right I would.

      > Even a buggy AI should be able to drive better than them.
      Then you clearly don't know shit about safety-critical software.

    9. Re:Should never have been allowed by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      The one I heard of was the Google car's fault.. it changed lanes into a bus because of a sand bag in the road.

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    10. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Ahhh.. OK, now THAT makes sense.
      I read it as he was dreaming of owning it and having it retrofitted an autopilotted vehicle.

    11. Re:Should never have been allowed by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      You made a lot of assumptions.

      Try to not do that

    12. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      You're being an arrogant twat.

      Try to not do that

    13. Re:Should never have been allowed by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      Would you like me to list all the assumptions?

      "For them to have a fully loaded semi on the freeway and the driver to get in the back seat was blatantly irresponsible. This experiment should never even have been legal."

      1) You have zero knowledge of what their system does and you ASSUME that they were "blatantly irresponsible"
      2) You have zero knowledge of what the legalities are or what they did to ensure that their experiment was approved and legal.

      Any other questions?

      Chew on this a bit, a couple of days ago a bus smashed into the back of a semi doing 5mph on I-10 near Palm Springs. 13 people died.

      "Some 400,0000 trucks crash each year, according to federal statistics, killing about 4,000 people. In almost every case, human error is to blame. "

      Humans have shown a remarkable amount of blatant irresponsibility behind the wheel, to the tune of about 30,000 killed and hundreds of thousands seriously injured every year every year in the US. I applaud Otto's safe and legally authorized trial of their Level 4 autonomous truck system. Look up what Level 4 is.

    14. Re:Should never have been allowed by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      The onus is not on me or anyone else to prove their system isn't safe, the onus is on them to prove it is.
      YOU chew on that.

    15. Re:Should never have been allowed by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      No because you're making baseless comments without knowing any of the details of a test which among other things several officials who do know something about it felt comfortable enough in to take part.

      But while we're dissing Tesla it's worth remembering all those people who died as a result of Tesla's self driving feature, ... both of them, and how this system came out AFTER those incidents. Interesting thing about something happening in an industry after an incident where you can fix problems based on prior information ... they get fixed. Unlike say drugged up truckies high on whatever to get them through the shift, a problem that has been known about for 20 years and no one has been able to fix yet.

      I know which truck I'd much rather be in, ... dude.

  17. retraining by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, ALL those truckers will get retrained as software developers and ALL of them will then get hired as software developers and make more money in the automation field!

    Isn't that what everyone thinks?

    1. Re:retraining by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      The old ones will retire. The young ones will find something else to do. The ones that are too young to retire, but too old to be software engineers will continue driving the trucks we will still need because we aren't going to replace 100% of the trucks on the road with autonomous ones overnight. Just like the blacksmiths, buggy makers, and COBOL programmers that came before them that were replaced with something better.

    2. Re:retraining by plopez · · Score: 2

      The young ones will find something else to do.

      Like cook meth.

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    3. Re:retraining by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > Just like the blacksmiths, buggy makers, and COBOL programmers that came before

      Robots are labor made out of capital.

      These are not the same circumstances as before. The need for unskilled manual labor is evaporating. Unlike blacksmiths and buggy makers, there are practically no more equivalent paying jobs available for people with the qualifications necessary to be a long-haul trucker. As in you don't even need a GED to drive a truck but you can still easily make $40K/yr.

      Furthermore there are about 7 million long-haul truckers right now. That is an enormous number of people to put out of work. We aren't going to put them out of work "overnight" but it is going to take less than a decade to eliminate 90% of them and that's close enough to "overnight" to wreck serious havoc. The coal industry lost about half a million unskilled jobs over 20+ years and that killed entire counties. This is going to be a blood-bath. If Trump were running in 2028 he'd win on that discontent alone, no racism necessary.

  18. That's exactly how it SHOULD work! by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

    And that's exactly how it should work! Should we also get rid of our computers and go back to armies of accounting and payroll clerks? Armies of shipping and receiving clerks?

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    1. Re:That's exactly how it SHOULD work! by stinerman · · Score: 1

      You are correct, however the concern is what happens when large parts of the workforce become essentially unemployable. Increased productivity and free trade are good things, but they do create winners and losers. We need to be more mindful of the losers and help them adjust to the changes.

    2. Re:That's exactly how it SHOULD work! by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

      Yes, but that conversation will never happen until it after it becomes a big issue. Many people simply can't fathom a world in which there is not enough work to go around.

      And that world is coming much faster than we realize. I hate to say it but population control is probably going to be a reality at some point too.

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  19. Dummy Beer by niaxilin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Eventually, Otto started adding dummy trailers, eventually filling them with dummy beer to understand how the truck would react when it was fully loaded.

    So they filled the dummy trailers with Budweiser?

  20. You should be less impressed... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    because they actually just sent the truck on a local beer run down the street. This is what happens when you hire the lead engineer behind Apple Maps to design the navigation system. ;)

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  21. The next step in automation by Camel+Racer · · Score: 1

    Now if only Uber/Otto can automate the drinking of Budweiser

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    1. Re:The next step in automation by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Now if only Uber/Otto can automate the drinking of Budweiser

      That will be great. Then humans wont have to drink it anymore.

  22. Re:Zero Risk by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Let's do something nice on Slashdot for a change: a Colorado breweries love-in!

    I'll start: GREAT DIVIDE. Probably my favorite from that state, right now. (Maybe because it's not distributed in my state, so I treasure it like I treasure other hard-to-gets.)

    Avery and Oskar Blues are other near-favorites. Steamwork (though I'm not sure they package). Ska can be good.

    What's yours? I wanna go on another CO shopping trip in a few weeks. Help me out.

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  23. Re:Congratuations on hauling water by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

    So you managed to haul a few canned cases of water down a hill.

    More like a steady uphill from start to finish...

    Fort Collins - 5,003 ft (1,525 m)
    Colorado Springs - 6,035 ft (1,839 m)

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  24. Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Self driving trucks aren't the right answer for long distance shipping. Sure, it becomes cheaper and safer in the longer term to have trucks drive themselves. But it won't reduce the overall traffic levels, lower the pollution from so many trucks, or reduce the damage to the roads by the vehicles. More trucks will still be needed in the future as more and more goods are transported. It will be lowered because each truck will be on the road more.

    We need to go back to railroads for deliveries between large cities. From there then trucks, either with a driver or self driving, can take the goods from the rail yards throughout the city and to the smaller cities nearby. It would mean further reliance on shipping containers but they are a proven technology. Drivers would become local from long haul. This plan would get many large trucks off of the highways which would make them safer, reduce maintenance costs, and drop the need to expand them.

    For larger companies such as Walmart instead of loading a truck at their warehouse to go to a specific store or two they would load a container. The container would be taken to the closest rail yard. The rail company would have trains going to nearby cities leaving at regular times instead of waiting for the train to reach a certain size. The container would reach the destination city at a certain time and the company would have a local driver there pick it up and drive it to the proper store(s). This would be instead of having one driver go directly from the warehouse to the store.

    I thought about this one night when I was going from Toronto to Ottawa on the train and most of the traffic on the highway was large trucks. They were all going to the same places (Kingston, Ottawa, Montreal, etc). If most of that cargo could be shipped by train it would be better for the environment, the highways would be safer, taxpayers would save money on the highways, and companies could save even more on delivery costs.

    1. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      But it won't reduce the overall traffic levels, lower the pollution from so many trucks

      Actually that's precisely what they're ultimately going for. Scania's first test of a semi-autonomous platooning system where the front truck is driven and the rest follow by computer showed a 12% reduction in fuel and emissions. The Volvo team measured a 10% reduction in the trailing truck and a 4% reduction in the leading.

    2. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      So you get a 10% reduction if you are able to platoon them. It won't be always be able to possible to do this. Competing companies (will Walmart lead a Target truck?), trucks not on highways, traffic jams, etc. Put the goods in containers and the containers on trains you get about a 50% reduction in emissions plus all of the other benefits I mentioned.

      You can still have the driverless truck for the short haul part of the trip. I'm call for changes to the longer part of the trip. Ships between continents or for very far distances. Trains between far cities. Trucks for the last city or to the smaller city or town. Use the most efficient transport when possible.

    3. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      Do you understand that trains are already used for shipping? Your premise suggests that, somehow, shippers aren't smart enough to pick trains when they make more sense.

      If trucking can be made to operate even more efficiency that is a winning proposition even if trains exist.

    4. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by PPalmgren · · Score: 1

      Trains are used when they can be and are the preferred method for shipping domestically. Time-sensitive cargo and cargo going outside of rail hubs is what's being handled by trucks. It doesn't make any sense to build a railroad or run a train to Bumfuckistan, Colorado, population 600.

    5. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      will Walmart lead a Target truck?

      Walmart? Target? What kind of a place is the USA where retailers do their own shipping? I've never seen Walmart written on the side of a shipping container. Normally it's something like Merek with yet a different company's name on the front of a truck. The kind of trucks you're talking about account for a tinsey portion of freight.

      Put the goods in containers and the containers on trains you get about a 50% reduction in emissions plus all of the other benefits I mentioned.

      Yes except the ability to get goods where they need to go in the time they need to get there. Or do you think that trains which also represent the lowest cost inland shipping are some unused resource that companies wilfully ignore? There's are reasons lots of things travel by truck, and the two biggest ones are that train tracks don't exist, or where they do exist they are at capacity.

    6. Re:Wrong Answer for Long Distance Shipping by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I wonder how much more use our rail system would get if we laid down a second set of tracks between major cities were there is only one set currently? I suspect that a big part of the delivery speed problems with rail shipping currently is that a line can only handle traffic in one direction at a time. So as it stands a train can't just leave when it's ready, it has to wait for the track to be clear of oncoming traffic first. By doubling the amount of rail we could quite possibly more than double the throughput.

  25. Thank you Slashdot by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

    I came into this thread expecting to see an Imperial buttload of Smokey and the Bandit related comments. The denizens of Slashdot did not disappoint. :D

    That said, can it really be considered a beer run, when all the truck did was deliver beer flavored water?

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  26. It wasn't even beer! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    It was Budweiser, so it's grossly inaccurate to call it 'beer'. The closest description I'll accept for that swill is 'beer-like beverage', and then only if I'm in a really good mood. Really, there ought to be a law about what you can and can't call 'beer' in this country. The only thing worse than Budweiser, is PBR. Even Coors is better than either one of those. Hell, I'd rather get roaring drunk off oilcans of Fosters Lager than drink even one Budweiser.

    Damnit. Now I want a Newcastle.

    At any rate.. this is hardly a 'win' for self-driving vehicles and so-called 'AI' in general. You're literally leaving a bad taste in everyones' mouth, driving a truckload of Budweiser around. This would have been a good time for the thing to crash; it would have gone a long ways towards proving that 'AI' is capable of being sentient -- as well as showing it's capable of having Good Taste.

    1. Re:It wasn't even beer! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      The closest description I'll accept for that swill is 'beer-like beverage',

      Something almost, but not completely, unlike beer?

  27. Why does the driver move? by ZipK · · Score: 1

    The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps, moved to the backseat

    How is the demonstration any more compelling with the driver in the back seat? It's more daring, but assuming the driver sits front left and doesn't touch anything, it's no less compelling.

  28. Re:Zero Risk by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Let's do something nice on Slashdot for a change.

    This goes against everything Slashdot stands for.

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  29. the driver is an 1099 and uber will not pay bail! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    the driver is an 1099 and uber will not pay bail or court costs! also under the NDA the driver will be sued big time if he talks to the cops or the courts about any think that does done in the truck.

  30. Will uber e-beer delivery app to age checks? boot by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Will the uber e-beer delivery app to age checks? boot leg? pay taxes? comply with states beer laws?

    If they try there we are not a taxi line with Liquor they may be looking some hard time and or big fines in a criminal court of law and not a forced arbitration one.

  31. In the near future.... by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

    phone rings

    Colorado Springs: Hi, this is Bob a Colorado Springs distribution center
    ABI dispatch: Hi, Bob this is Murphy at dispatch

    Bob: Hey Murph, how's the wife.
    Murph: doing well Bob thanks for asking
    Murph: say Bob, that last truck we sent hasn't come back yet, you guys still unloading?
    Bob: well that is odd Murph, haven't seen a truck today let me check the lot ... nothing here from you since yesterday!
    Murph: !.....

    meanwhile at UC Colorado Springs
    pan back from automated budwiser truck
    Skolnick: Wormser, Poindexter great job!
    Booger: diabolical smile Let's Party!

  32. Re:i read the article and have one question by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

    Budweiser.

  33. Not the First by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Not the first, not the biggest, not the most difficult.

    Read this instead http://qz.com/656104/a-fleet-o...

    A week of driving, trucks from several manufacturers, 2000 km Stockholm to Rotterdam across 4 borders.

    Uber don't have a clue what they are up against. 120 miles? F**king amateurs.

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    1. Re:Not the First by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      I suspect Uber really only thinks it's a marketing gimmick that's good for their brand name. But I don't see how it isn't counter productive long term when people invariably realize the headlines were all hype.

    2. Re:Not the First by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Were these fully autonomous,

      The Uber one wasn't fully autonomous either.

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    3. Re:Not the First by mjwx · · Score: 1

      TFA is just wrong, wrong, wrong. Not the first, not the biggest, not the most difficult. Read this instead http://qz.com/656104/a-fleet-o... A week of driving, trucks from several manufacturers, 2000 km Stockholm to Rotterdam across 4 borders. Uber don't have a clue what they are up against. 120 miles? F**king amateurs.

      Yes, but this is Uber, posterboy of publicity. Because it's Uber it's new and fresh (regardless of how many people have done it before).

      My question is, did they sell the pisswater (sorry, as a UK resident it is against the law to call Budweiser a beer) for $2 a bottle off the street and call it "beverage sharing".

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  34. Re:i read the article and have one question by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

    wtf is "dummy beer"?

    That is a generic name for many types, such as Budweiser, Coors, Keystone, Miller, etc.

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  35. How does it handle weather? by plopez · · Score: 1

    Lake effect storms? Snow Chi Mihn (google it)? hail storms? Etc.

    Other than that I was deeply disappointed about the lack of pizza.

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  36. Almost squared by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The driver, who has to be there to help the truck get on and off the interstate exit ramps

    So it's almost self-driving.

    Then again, its cargo is almost beer.

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  37. means more if it's Coors by swschrad · · Score: 1

    well, it IS an old movie...

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  38. Correction by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Uber's Self-Driving Truck Went on a 120-Mile Beer Run To Make History^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Publicity

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  39. Re:Zero Risk by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

    Let's do something nice on Slashdot for a change.

    This goes against everything Slashdot stands for.

    This goes against everything the Internet stands for.

  40. The most common job in the US about to die out by hublan · · Score: 1

    http://www.npr.org/sections/mo...

    Flip the chart to 2014.

    There's going to be a lot of disaffected out-of-work folks in the future.

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    1. Re:The most common job in the US about to die out by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 2

      http://www.npr.org/sections/mo...

      Flip the chart to 2014.

      There's going to be a lot of disaffected out-of-work folks in the future.

      Precisely..

      To add to the quote from the headline... "We're just thrilled. We do think this is the future of transportation where we can save a shit ton of money by firing all the truck drivers that are working for us now".

      Just need a minimum wage scrub riding along to load and unload the truck.

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    2. Re:The most common job in the US about to die out by naughtynaughty · · Score: 1

      Are you still upset that street lights no longer require someone to light them every night?

      Similar to getting rid of dangerous gas street lights, the self-driving trucks will be both safer and less expensive.

  41. Re:After several accidents and lawsuits this will by j-beda · · Score: 1

    There are too many variable that can cause a crash. There will be a crash, and when it happens, lawsuits will ensue. After enough loss is suffered then sel;f driving trucks will be no more.

    Actually, that's how it is supposed to work. Eventually though, if they can cut down the accident rate enough, it will become less expensive than human drivers, and then that's pretty much the end for human drivers.

  42. In other news... by Macdude · · Score: 1

    In other news, the remake of Smokey and the Bandit is gonna suck!

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  43. Uber would not get off that easy they may have by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Uber would not get off that easy they may of been forced to have a full code audit in court and may of been at the very least had many people who worked on this maybe facing accessory changes even more so if they erased or tried to erased logs or did not comply with discovery to get info maybe even the source code to the system. And no they can't hide under a system of contractors / sub contractors.

    As for the civil case they may of needed to pay off the victim big time to keep the case out of court. As the #1 it would looked real bad for them to try to come up all kinds of bs in a case + the victim likely would of had a high profile legal team on there side.

  44. Re:The ripple effect of automated truckers by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    they will still need to stop for fuel.

  45. Re:They missed their chance. by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    in general it is illegal to buy alcohol in one state and resell in another.