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Payback? Russia Gets Hacked, Revealing Putin Aide's Secrets (nbcnews.com)
Ukrainian activists have compromised 2,337 messages in the Microsoft Outlook accounts of two assistants to a top aide of Vladimir Putin. An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes NBC News:
A Ukrainian group calling itself Cyber Hunta has released more than a gigabyte of emails and other material from the office of one of Vladimir Putin's top aides, Vladislav Surkov, that show Russia's fingerprints all over the separatist movement in Ukraine. While the Kremlin has denied the relationship between Moscow and the separatists, the emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
"This is a serious hack," said Maks Czuperski, head of the Digital Forensic Research Lab of the Atlantic Council, which has searched through the email dump and placed selected emails online. "We have seen so much happen to the United States, other countries at the hands of Russia," said Czuperski. "Not so much to Russia. It was only a question of time that some of the anonymous guys like Cyber Hunta would come to strike them back."
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that the U.S. "had no role" in the breach -- but when asked if the material was authentic, replied there was "nothing to indicate otherwise."
"This is a serious hack," said Maks Czuperski, head of the Digital Forensic Research Lab of the Atlantic Council, which has searched through the email dump and placed selected emails online. "We have seen so much happen to the United States, other countries at the hands of Russia," said Czuperski. "Not so much to Russia. It was only a question of time that some of the anonymous guys like Cyber Hunta would come to strike them back."
A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News that the U.S. "had no role" in the breach -- but when asked if the material was authentic, replied there was "nothing to indicate otherwise."
Breaking news!
Reports state that Vladislav Surkov has been seen en route to Siberia.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
I approve of governments hacking each other and sharing each other's dirty little secrets with the public. Adversarial systems work well in the service of justice and honesty.
I hope someone hacks Merkel's and May's E-mails too and publishes them. Unfortunately, the Germans are likely too careful to let that happen.
Guess wikileaks must not be mentioned or that would be the headline. So much for the MSMs theory about Russians influencing the election, huh?
Good article, except when it affirms who shot down MH17.
I know we heard various things on this, but I seriously doubt we can ever be certain about who shot down an aircraft over a region in civil war. The only valid interesting question here is why did we had commercial planes flying there at all?
Emails seem to be from 2014, so I would not say this is conclusive evidence one way or the other about Russia and WikiLeaks.
I would expect WikiLeaks to show up in Russian emails regardless of their involvement. If I was Putin, and not involved in the hacking, I would be delighted to receive credit for mucking up US politics. I can easily imagine Putin bragging or laughing it up with his cronies over email.
And CNN has one big hard on! Wolf is said to be walking around like Ron Burgundy.
This is my fault.
I am sitting at my computer killing time because the glue is drying on one of my projects (you can see my work at www.allyn.com)
And suddenly I felt like I had a fire hose aimed at me with a full blast of high pressure water! Only it was not water. It was russian data.
My computer decided to hack for me even though I did now want it to and now I am diluged with russian excrement; ie; data that I don't give one whack about.
I only wanted to wait for my project's glue to dry.
Please, data, don't come to me. I don't want you. Now get out of my office and off my land.
Thank you!
Most Respectfully Yours Mark Allyn Bellingham, Washington
Why do we not just go back to dial up. Inet for the plebs and limited call id / password and encrypt key with a dongle to just get into the dial up network.
Apply this to all important systems. Power plants / government etc. do not need to be on a world accessible network connection and so on.
when asked if the material was authentic, replied there was "nothing to indicate otherwise."
Since there is technical proof that the podesta mails are authentic, it would be good if those agents could say the same about them too. You know, to shut up the false doctored emails BS.
emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine,
yes, because youll need the assistance of the country to which your people wish to defect in order to achieve anything. its unfortunate that the country split like this, but NATO isnt entirely faultless in this. by encouraging aggressive expansion contrary to post world war 2 agreement it gave a lot of crimeans good cause to be afraid.
which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
and done an excellent job to prevent western powers from expanding NATO into an oil producing country rich in natural resources. the difference is a hacking group in the Ukrane exposed what everyone knew to be true: logistics, supplies, tactical and political guidance was coming from the kremlin in order to secure a defecting minority province. this was the pretext similar to both the US wars in Iraq...liberation and the support of a minority anti-government group. In the case of the US hack, the american people were made to know that which they had no idea. American voters were shown that Bernie Sanders had absolutely no chance of a fair election, and that the political party loyal to clinton was doing everything from influencing coverage at sites like Facebook to outright spinning at major news outlets to cover up an email scandal that for any other american would have been a multiple life-term felony (chelsea manning for example)
Good people go to bed earlier.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html?
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With NATO funding a neo-NAZI coup on Russia's doorstep I am not surprised at all that Russia is funding the opposition.
Now what? Both USA and Russia signed protection treaties. Pleas tell me Russia is gona nuke itself willingly now that they have Satana 2.
So a close aide of russian president Poetin is actually using a microsoft cloud service for emailing about highly secret volatile stuff ??!!11?!!!!!
What the actual f*ck ?! This is of a stupidity that i have difficulty in believing....
The NBC article cites some of what, no doubt, NBC took to be the juiciest and most scandalous bits. I quote:
'There is a list of casualties in the Donbass region of Ukraine sent from a high-ranking separatist official, and a list of candidates for office in a sham election. One email notes that the individuals with asterisks next to their name were "checked by us" and are "especially recommended." Days later, those same names were announced as having been "elected."
'There are expense reports and a proposal for a government press office in Donetsk, scene of some of the fiercest fighting -- a three-person operation for separatist propaganda, with an editor, reporter and webmaster'.
Ooooh, a list of casualties in Donbass! That certainly proves Russian culpability beyond a shadow of doubt. Unless it just shows that the government of Russia was concerned about the number of Russian-speaking civilians of Russian descent who were being killed by the illegal Kiev regime. (If you don't agree that the regime is illegal, please note that "president" Petro Poroshenko has publicly admitted as much: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...).
A list of candidates in "a sham election". Well, the word "sham" was certainly added by the Ukrainians or NBC. The election was perfectly legitimate, in a region of Ukraine where the reggime had ceased to pay salaries, pensions and benefits and which its armed forces were bombarding (a war crime). It's hardly surprising that the local people decided to hold their own elections. "[W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security". Sound familiar, at all? Read the rest of the Declaration of Independence, with its long list of grievances and accusations against King George III - and I think you will find that it amounts to a hell of a lot less than the residents of Donbass have suffered at the hands of the Kiev regime.
As for the Russians saying which candidates they vouched for and approved of, it's hardly surprising that the Donbass voters were happy to accept that advice. Russia, after all, was (and is) their only hope for survival when the Kiev regime was doing its level best to exterminate them.
Expense reports! Perhaps the most eagerly sought-after secret information in the world of spies and spooks. (Unless of course Russian officials don't cheat on their expenses).
And plans for a press office in a foreign country where there is fighting going on! Thank goodness the USA never funds press offices or other media initiatives in foreign countries where there is fighting - like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria... or even Ukraine. (Are there any American press offices or media personnel in Ukraine? Does a camel have fleas?)
Definitely far more damning than some emails showing how the agents of a supposedly democratic party worked to change the results of a presidential election. Let me know when the people in Moscow whose emails were stolen are indicted by the FBI, as Mrs Clinton is about to be.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
... for using Outhouse. No wonder Mr Putin has asked that all Russian government systems be moved to open source as soon as possible.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
Then he collected a massive amount of shit so he fired off this defensive tweet:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/760095370185674752
Zero evidence has been presented that Russia is "guilty" of anything, just a series of assertions from the fine people that lied you into a million lives and trillions of dollars lost in Iraq. But American Exceptionalists seem eager to get fooled and fooled again.
AE response 1: but but what about Syria and Ukraine? Neither situation would exist if not for America's policy of regime change, and it's not like the U.S. would do nothing if the USSR had engineered a communist coup in, say, Mexico.
AE response 2: you're just a Putin lover! Yeah, you guys said the same thing about Saddam and anyone who questioned your bullshit about WMD's and "ties to Al Queda". So why don't you skip that part and go complain that anyone who talks about Hillary's incompetent corruption is only trying to get Trump elected.
Anyone else read that as Putin's aids secret, or was it ju$ ,ou*(*
no carrier.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
We know how Podesta got hacked. It was spear phishing. Someone sent him an email claiming his account had been accessed from the Ukraine with a bitly link to "reset" the password. Anyone could've done a hack that simple. The same orgs also lied to us about other things like the WMD or the yellowcake, so relying on secret evidence from them won't do much.
Even so, I don't really care if Russia did it. The emails are accurate and we know that because the DKIM signatures validate. Hillary is angling for war with Russia by creating a Syrian no-fly zone so the rebels we armed can fight the democratically elected government of Syria, which is a Russian ally. One might reasonably think that Hillary's efforts to expand the draft and to set up a no fly zone there to shoot down Russian planes do not bode well for peace. Maybe if we were working with Russia we could actually broker some kind of peace agreement instead of trying to start WWIII against Russia.
If they had compromised 1,337 messages.
Rookie mistake.
I watched the video you quoted. It clearly has been manufactured by some of these lazy Kiev people. First, I can see a four-engined plane crashing. MH17 was a B777 with TWO engines. WTF ?
Secondly, your Hollywood presenter with the bad haircut claims Putin is a "KGB man and a hardcore communist" or something quite similar. That is also patently wrong. Yes, he is an ex KGB man and a patriot, but he denounces communism on a regular basis. He called Lenin a "guy who put a bomb under Russia".
All the other "evidence" could easily be doctored or "is kept secret to protect sources and methods". In other words, useless evidence for a real court case.
Ukraine has a history of shooting down civil airliners "by accident" and maybe this was just one more case like this.
NATO started the fire in Kiev by the coup d'etat staged by New York and Relatives, including Merkel. 50 Russians were burnt alive in Kiev. And the guy in the video (probably one more relative of Merkel and Soros) calls the Russians "terrorists". In my book, Russia protects their people and interests against the lazies of Kiev who have some New York Relatives.
Ukraine shot down an Israeli airliner in 2001 "by training accident". Kiev is too stupid to cordon off an area where they use live missiles of the soviet Union - known to be the most lethal SAM systems ever made. Ask McCain.
Russia and Ukraine (and transitively NATO) have been on a low level war for some years now.
I would not be surprised to learn that all the emails have been faked by Kiev.
LOL..
US said there was nothing to indicate otherwise. Sounds like when they went to Iraq to find the weapons of mass destruction.
This looks like one of the amateurish Kiev fake works. Why don't they simply put the entire "2.3 GB file" online as a torrent or the like ?
The answer is: Because it does not exist. All that exists are a few select fake emails.
Kiev is a bunch of pathetic losers, completely helpless without disciplined and hard working Russians. Like the Greek, the Kievians are lazy bloodsuckers. But unlike the Greek they are wholly stupid bloodsuckers. I doubt Ukrainians could make a frying pan by themselves.
All their soviet-time "achievements" were made by Moscovite discipline and hard work. Just look at how their aircraft industry rots to death.
You Murricans and Englishmen support and arm the modern-day Nazis of Riad and Ankara. Those who (covertly via their support of ISIS) kill helpless prisoners for the "sin" of not being Sunni Mohammedics. Or sell them off as whore-slaves. Cut off their extremities and the like.
Under Assad not all was perfect, but surely he made sure different tribes and religions could live side by side, often one house next to the other !
And you have the temerity to criticize Russia for blowing these bastards to hell ???
Karma will deal it to you Rotten Anglos !
I start to understand the Iranian rhetoric and I am not Russian. It does not matter who I am, what matters is the truth, which you can read above.
I expect no less from a government that shot down an airliner because they thought they'd get NATO involved in a war with Russia. Fuck Ukraine. Long live Novorussia.
Not a surprise.
Still a very one-sided way to look at it. Last I checked history, the seperatists didn't start the falling apart of the Ukraine, it was the right-wing extremist behind the Maiden movement, who escalated the protest into civil war and then took control of the government. There seem to be interesting ties to several western governments, but I'm not sure we will ever learn the truth.
That Russia supports the seperatists is basically the worst-kept not-quite-secret of the world.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
I enjoy reading the comments on /. But over the last few months it spins off in the direction of red vs blue, regardless of subject. It resembles a monkey cage at feeding time.
Speaking of "spies doing their jobs", I think it calls for an obligatory Terry Pratchett quote: