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Newly Published WikiLeaks Emails Show Clinton Campaign Communicated With State Department (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: A State Department official appeared to coordinate with Hillary Clinton's nascent presidential campaign hours before the former secretary of state's exclusive use of private emails was first detailed in a news account last year, newly released hacked emails show. Emails from the files of Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta show that the department official provided Clinton aides with the agency's official response to a New York Times reporter in advance of the newspaper's March 2015 report that Clinton had used a private email account to conduct all of her work-related business as secretary. The stolen emails were released Wednesday by WikiLeaks, part of a massive trove of emails released by the document-leaking group on a daily basis since last month. WikiLeaks has indicated it intends to leak emails stolen from Podesta's account every day through the election. In a March 1, 2015 email, State Department press aide Lauren Hickey told Clinton's spokesman Nick Merrill and two other advisers that then-State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki had "just cleared" a reply to the Times. Hickey provided the agency's response to the Clinton aides and also appeared to agree to a change requested by the campaign, saying: "Yes on your point re records -- done below." It is not clear what specific change was requested and made. State Department spokesman John Kirby said Wednesday that the department would not comment on alleged leaked documents. But he said the department's effort to "provide accurate information to the media" about Clinton's tenure at the agency has "at times required communicating with her representatives to ensure accuracy."
We didn't need another leak to let us know how corrupt the Clintons are.
They promise equality, deliver an oligarchy of media, government and business elites.
Everyone but them ends up poor.
The society descends into third-world status.
Maybe, just maybe, we should stop basing politics on feelings/desires and focus on what works.
But then we would be Rightist.
Alternative Right.
Not really clear that there's anything here. A news organization always checks with the subject of an article before running the article-- this is standard procedure, and it's also standard procedure to correct errors of fact that are pointed out-- it is desirable to do this BEFORE an article runs.
I think they're stretching on this.
this Email Says: Weiner
- The DOJ warned her ahead of interviews
- The DOJ has obstructed the FBI at every turn in its investigations
- The State Department massaged the messages to the media in collaboration with Clinton's help
- The State Department made deals with the FBI to declassify classified Clinton emails
- CNN provided Clinton with the primary debate questions ahead of time (but not Bernie, of course)
- The DNC favored Clinton to the detriment of Bernie at every opportunity, including paying consultants to cause violence at Trump rallies but put the blame on Bernie supporters.
Yes, these are all proven facts.
So much crap is going down right now.... where to even start.
There's a straw donor program that just got busted as well as a voter fraud ring in Indiana.
We have the DOJ giving the heads up which you can read here. This was forwarded by one Peter Kadzik, who you might remember as being put in charge of the reopened investigation. Conflict of interest much? Podesta says he's a "Fantastic lawyer. Kept me out of jail." His son wants to help Hillary's campaign. Plenty of other emails of them having lunch, parties, etc. together too, incidentally.
An African-American church was burned down and people are raising money to repair it.
Well, not really State Department issues, so much as SecState issues. The issue being that she violated security in serious ways (ways that would have gotten me put in jail back when I was in the military)....
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Not really clear that there's anything here. A news organization always checks with the subject of an article before running the article-- this is standard procedure, and it's also standard procedure to correct errors of fact that are pointed out-- it is desirable to do this BEFORE an article runs.
I think they're stretching on this.
While that's certainly true, it's also misdirection. A news organization checking the subject of an article isn't the point.
It's that the government agency fielding the request gave the campaign a heads up, and took direction from the campaign about the response.
That's collusion between government and the Clinton campaign.
Are you comfortable with government agencies checking with a campaign (of their choosing) during an election?
I'm not.
Not really clear that there's anything here. A news organization always checks with the subject of an article before running the article-- this is standard procedure, and it's also standard procedure to correct errors of fact that are pointed out-- it is desirable to do this BEFORE an article runs.
I think they're stretching on this.
While that's certainly true, it's also misdirection. A news organization checking the subject of an article isn't the point.
It's that the government agency fielding the request gave the campaign a heads up, and took direction from the campaign about the response.
That's collusion between government and the Clinton campaign.
Are you comfortable with government agencies checking with a campaign (of their choosing) during an election?
I'm not.
And just to be clear, according to the Wikileaks document, this happened *after* she had left the state department and was running her campaign.
She was, at the time, a citizen with no government authority or privilege.
Comey was made an offer he couldn't refuse. Podesta is the Consigliere. Anyone else that did what she did would be serving serious time.
But the middle of an election campaign isn't the best time to run this through the media grinder, every interesting tidbit end sup looking like a fresh scandal.
Good point. Too bad she lied at every step, deleted evidence at every step, colluded with the DOJ to bury this investigation, and then lied more about it. You are right, it shouldn't be coming up now, but the ONLY person responsible for it still going on is Clinton herself. If the DOJ didn't try and bury the Clinton Foundation investigation, they would be done now. If Clinton didn't have to delete 33,000 emails, there would be no new ones that the FBI is currently looking at.
So, the way I see it Clinton is the only one responsible for it still going on. She refused to testify to Congress for like 18 months because of a "head injury" that she won't answer questions about either. Yep, this would all be 18 months further along if she didn't fake being sick.
I would feel bad, but she lied under oath to Congress, and not under oath to the citizens of the US. She lied to the families of those killed while working for her as well. Someone who can do that doesn't deserve respect.
right here.
Call me a troll all you want, but my God, if this is the worst we can dig up on Hillary after 20 years of non-stop character assassination then she's practically Christ (Obama gets to be God, since we haven't found jack on him).
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Navy machinist Kristian Saucier took some selfies aboard ship and is in prison for it right now. Saucier didn't send the pictures to anyone. Having the classified information (pictures of the interior of the ship) on a non-secure device is a crime, and Saucier is in prison for that crime.
Clinton instructed her staff on how to send classified information "remove markings and send insecure". She intentionally instructed staff to do what Saucier did (have info on an unsecured device) AND more- also Clinton had it sent over the public internet.
Yes. Lets make America more like Jordan. Next.
'cause apparently the entire Obama administration has made it a priority to fund, support, and defend the Clinton Crime Family.
First off, Trump is an asshole. Second, if this was a Republican candidate you would be calling for their arrest and commending Wikileaks for their brave whistle blowing. But hey, agenda at all cost, right?
The relevant law is: 18 U.S. Code 1924
Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material (18 USC 1924) is something that Hillary would likely have been charged with if she had not been protected by her cronies. The fact is, they allowed her claim that she didn't know what she was doing was illegal to stand in as absence of a clear motive. I find it really hard to believe that someone who has spent 30 years in the Federal Government has no knowledge of Section 18 of the criminal code! David Petraeus plead guilty to that charge and got a little probation and a $100,000 fine. For one count. However, Hillary (and others on her staff) might be guilty lots and lots of instances.
She and some staffers may also be guilty of 18 USC 1623, False Declarations Before a grand jury or court--which carries up to 5 years--for lying under oath about said intent to commit the crime of removing classified documents and storing them. There is also 18 USC 1001, Fraud and False Statements which might come into play if she lied. Really, I think it's quite embarrassing as a citizen to live in a country that claims to practice justice in the court, but clearly does not. When you get passed all the political spin and commentary and drill down to the actual criminal code, it is hard to imagine a reality in which Hillary and her staff did not get convicted of SOMETHING. Let alone not even indicted! It just goes to show how deep the corruption goes.
Here's TFL (the fucking law)
18 USC 1924
18 USC 1623
18 USC 1001
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
Know a Radio Room officer who went to jail when a TS document found its way into a trash can instead of the burn bag.
HE didn't even handle the damn document. He was just the officer in charge of the space.
So, yes. The rules are quite different depending on who your friends are, who you are and how much financial influence you can wave around.
Folks go to jail for far less than what Hillary has pulled which is the biggest problem with the whole damn thing.
Why the fuck is she treated any different than anyone else ?
just get it over with so I don't have to see Drumpf's face and hear his voice constantly on every goddamn website I go to, including this one.
If Trump wins, I hear that people sometimes go on long voyages on freighters to the South Seas. Some of those ships are completely out of range of common modern communications networks for weeks and weeks. You might book yourself passage on one. They have a limited number of passenger compartments and are working ships, not luxury liners. You might like the isolation.
I hope if you ever find yourself under criminal investigation while running for office, that the investigating agency provides you with inside information advantageous to your campaign as well. Totally normal stuff.
I remember what happened when someone accidentally emailed a document that was marked Top Secret. It wasn't. It was generated on an unclassified machine. But someone had forgotten to configure the classification level somewhere, so all documents generated had a "TS/SCI" banner stamped on the top. Even though they were just junk test data.
I'm not entirely certain what happened to the guy who sent the email - I'm not sure if they kept their job - but the entire network was down for the cleanup.
And, again, that was the cleanup involved in something that was merely MARKED Top Secret, despite not BEING Top Secret.
I don't even want to SEE what would happen if someone leaked actual classified information.
Do we really want another 4 years of this shit? Then again, is Trump any better? WTF peeps. Don't look at me, I live in California and the nominees were settled long before I had a say.
Why the fuck is she treated any different than anyone else ?
Because she's better than your sorry asses in every way and is having the FEMA camps prepped and is distributing those hundreds of millions of rounds of hollow-point ammo the Feds have been buying up to DHS and other domestic security forces even as we speak. Keep running your mouths against Clinton and you won't make it to the camps alive. Think of your families and STFU.
If Trump wins,
Seriously, if Trump wins, do you really think he's gunna stick to it? Once he sees he can't just bully and bluster his way to get shit done in our political system, I bet money he resigns and let's Pence deal with it. Even if he doesn't publicly resign, behind the curtails, Pence will be running this show. Trump has no clue how to work in government.
Like I said, I don't care. If Trump wins, it'll definitely be as entertaining as this entire election as been.
You are going to blow the narrative!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
And here's a great video to go along with your reading of that law. The FBI Director is on the stand here, under oath, being grilled about their handling of this case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I don't believe you've taken a very close look at what's been revealed. Building personal fortunes of $ and power out of access to, and abuse of, strategic controls of OUR government is at the core of Clinton Inc. This is not a new thing for any of us old enough to remember when Bill was Gov of Arkansas. "Slick Willy" goes waaay back.
The FBI director's conclusion was that there was insufficient evidence of intent, not that there was no intent. That infuriated enough of the lower ranks involved that the Weiner laptop was brought into the fray and it now appears that Comey has the evidence of intent he was missing before.
All this is subject to what bombshells drop tomorrow of course...
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
FBI Sources Believe Clinton Foundation Case Moving Towards "Likely an Indictment"
Progressivism: Parasites helping parasites to help themselves - to other people's stuff.
With what? Food stamps?
lucm, indeed.
I mean except all normal Americans. We will either end up with a Douche or the Turd Sandwich. Both are dirty lying greedy spotlight whores. Hillary is Stalin and Trump is Hitler. One's in the pocket of the Russians and the other is Owned by the Chinese. The American people can get nothing good out of this train-wreck of an election. I feel sorry for us all.
The FBI has the devices of most people currently under investigation. Weiner's cache of 650,000 emails is most likely a full dump of every Clinton email received given the number. If you don't understand the reason for holding those you have no sense of being part of a criminal conspiracy and the need to protect yourself from other party members.
There are plenty of facts to be had to indict not just Clinton, but a large number of people from the Democratic Party, numerous PACs, the DOJ, the State Department, and possibly members of the executive staff. The fact that the DOJ has been actively suppressing information is being undermined by Wikileaks, and pressed by the members of Intelligence agencies who have integrity.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Look it up in the schedule? This is the DOJ interviewing a witness to a crime.
They don't normally send agendas to private citizens through third parties regarding what they'll talk about.
Yours is the first visible comment that I would classify as sane. Maybe my memory is shot, but I seem to remember rational political discussions not so many years ago, and in general Slashdot had more than most other venues. This time around, Slashdot is FAR crazier than average.
Right now I think there are two hypotheses: (1) Computer-induced insanity, and (2) Hacker attack.
The first hypotheses is based on my old suspicion that too much computer use could be bad for mental hygiene. Actually expressed that theory at least 30 years ago, but the evidence looks more and more clear. Perhaps mostly related to the propensity of people to believe what they want to believe, but now the "personalized" searches make it possible to get infinite amounts of evidence for any insane thing you like. However, my next book is The Shallows , which (per secondhand reports) is taking a different approach to the problem.
The second hypothesis would involve capture of dormant accounts, and Slashdot might have become a favored target precisely because of the technical bias. Great test site for state-sponsored hackers, and yes, I am thinking of the Russians in particular.
Perhaps Slashdot will recover after the election, but it's sad to see things in such a state.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
You sound like the spoiled (and uneducated) brat. Trump isn't a politician, which is part of his attraction by many Americans who are sick of politicians. Pull your head out of your bum.
If Vladimir Putin wanted to influence American politics, why didn't he just make a donation to the Clinton Foundation?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
I don't agree. I think it's always good to have the specifics to hand. It's helpful to be able to point out salient details and understand more about context regarding why powerful people make the decisions they do. Historically, it will be more valuable in ways we don't yet know just as having old newspapers scanned and OCRed turns out to be helpful. If Clinton becomes the next US President, I suspect people will continue to find interesting connections to (then current) policy choices and something she told the banks but wouldn't tell the public (like how a lot of Syrians are going to die in her Syrian "no-fly zone"). It's already been helpful to put her alleged support for women into proper context by showing how she's the more dangerous of the two major party candidates with regard to women. Trump will use ugly language and he may grope women in arms reach (as he is alleged to have done to about a dozen women that we know of), and this is certainly bad for those women and their families. But it's not murder. Clinton will kill many more women halfway around the world (possibly including Americans like Obama did in the drone war against the al-Awlaki father and son pair of men). That's objectively worse.
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Right, because Russia doesn't have real assets in place to get their hands on security briefings and have to rely on manipulating a (notoriously unpredictable) candidate for President into funneling them secrets in the middle of the most scrutinized election in American history?
Makes perfect sense.
Even the New York Times which openly opposes Trump admits the FBI has looked into Russia-Putin-Trump ties and found NOTHING.
This is the same sort of big bold lie that the Democrats spread last election cycle about Romney being a tax cheat, which after the election Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) admitted was a lie but successfully helped torpedo Romney. Reid had told that lie on the Senate floor where he knew that the press would run with it but the Constitution would prevent him being prosecuted for libel or slander (he knew most Americans were too de-educated to know that he was gaming the system to fool them).
The Democrats are far better at being evil in election cycles than the feckless GOP. Every damn election cycle, Gloria Allred calls press conferences and announces that she is representing some poor young female "victim" (often multiple "victims") of a Republican and then after the election *POOF* they all scurry away never to be seen again (remember all the women she trotted out as "victims" of Herman Cain?). Keep voting for the dirtbags that the dirtbag propagandists tell you to vote for! It's been working really well, hasn't it?
I suspect there's a reason why all the super-rich in both parties and on Wall St who've been getting fat-and-happy are backing team Hillary with their money, their votes, and their activism - and there's NOTHING in it for the declining middle class or the stagnant lower class.
Know a Radio Room officer who went to jail when a TS document found its way into a trash can instead of the burn bag. HE didn't even handle the damn document. He was just the officer in charge of the space.
Smells like bullshit to me, frankly.
Fuckups happen which classified information. Everyone who works around it knows this. People have lost their jobs if the fuckups are serious enough but generally, they're sent to extra training because the people in charge of the rules aren't total fucking morons. If you make the consequences for screwing up too severe then people will attempt to hide things which only makes it worse.
Maybe rules are different in the military from civilian life, but I doubt they're that different.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
So, yes. The rules are quite different depending on who your friends are, who you are and how much financial influence you can wave around.
All these 'low level flunkie sent to prison for the same thing' anecdotes that people trot out to compare to clinton... most of their fates were sealed because they confessed to committing a crime when they were questioned.
As they say, rule 1 for talking to the police is don't talk to the police. The biggest predictor for the outcome in a lot of these cases is that they talked to the police and made a confession to a crime before they even spoke to a lawyer.
There is obviously a correlation between wealth and legal representation. But the *causal* element, and primary predictor is legal advice not wealth -- keep your damn mouth shut and get a lawyer even if you aren't rich... and suddenly the so called "special rules that apply to clinton and keep her out of jail when lesser fools end up in jail" largely apply to you too.
If the police have to prosecute one case based on complicated technical evidence, and another based on the fact that the defendant confessed to the crime ... well guess which lawsuit is more likely to prevail? Guess which one is more likely to even proceed.
If you hand the prosecution your conviction on a silver platter, you'll be prosecuted and convicted. It's that simple.
Hello USA, tech support here. It appears that your political system has hanged itself. Both of your candidates (and thanks to the broken two-party system, none of the others have a chance) are total crap and they both belong behind bars, not into the White House.
Try to find the reset button and press it.
Seriously, can't you just jail those bastards and restart the whole election process? Keep Obama for one more year while you elect someone who is not a clear and proven criminal?
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You are correct that she has no say as the classifying and declassifying information not owned by State. (Which generally means produced by State, but not exactly multiple departments frequently produce documents or other artifacts containing the same information.
You're talking to people who know a little bit about the topic, so making shit up only makes you look foolish. There's a well-defined process for declassifying information, involving multiple people. Emailing it to your buddies is not how that process works.
Deus Ex isn't an instruction manual, but damn if at times thing's don't get ... weird.
Om, nomnomnom...
We won't.
Apparently some have not gotten the message yet
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Again. This is nothing. She and her aides WERE the State Department at the time. Of course her input was needed. It's amazing how people make so much about boring everyday shit with the Hillary but completely ignore the horrible or completely stupid things every other Presidential candidate has said. She gets shit on for doing her job, or being a politician, or being upset she was cheated on. All normal shit. None of the other candidates know shit about foreign policy in a very delicate time internationally. Trump is a narcissistic sexual assault machine who makes the average bro blush. Johnson is an airhead that looks like a deer in headlights whenever he is interviewed. Jill Stein is an anti-vaxxer, need I say more? How is this even a decision to be made? One person running for President is qualified. I'm sorry you don't lover her but the others are just a complete disaster.
Time makes more converts than reason
It's not entertaining anymore. Trump is a one-trick pony and his trick has worn thin at this point. Narcissistic man-child is only entertaining in small doses and we ODed a long time ago.
Time makes more converts than reason
Here in the US, most political positions are package deals. If you're for universal healthcare, you're also for amnesty and vice versa. God forbid we accept one and reject the other.
This is why Trump is pretty important. He's rejecting certain traditional positions and accepting others.
This!!! Absolutely this! While I'm generally on the Right (forget neocon/alt-right/whatever other brand there is), there are some Democrat positions that I'm willing to not just consider, but also support. Like on Trade Deals, I'm w/ Trump, but his policy was anathema to the GOP until last year - only Pat Buchanan ever had that position. On abortion, I'm for it being legal in the first trimester, no questions asked (as long as both parents approve) but it being outlawed in the third. While that violates the NARAL orthodoxy, it also violates those pro-Lifers like Walker, Cruz, Rubio and Huckabee, who believe that it begins at conception and wouldn't allow even rape/incest exceptions. On Foreign Policy, I'm for withdrawing from the Middle East and banning Muslims. The first part is more compatible w/ the Democrat position, while the latter is not Republican - it's just Trump's position (supported by the base, but opposed by the party pooh baahs, who don't risk getting killed at random places like San Bernardino, Chattanooga, Orlando, Boston, et al)
The best example of the opposite of what you mentioned is Cruz. I understand his principles on his foreign policy, his opposition to amnesty, et al, but he then goes ahead to do a blanket embrace of all the party signature issues to make himself a purist. Like there was no reason for him to oppose the Commerce Department losing its oversight of ICANN (particularly given that he would abolish the department itself if he had his way). But there he is, opposing ICANN going 'international' just b'cos the 'US loses control of the internet' - something it doesn't have.
To use a food analogy, it's like going to a food court and picking out any combination of things you like, and going to the table. Contrast this w/ getting an assorted plate, where you get something like 6 different items, of which you may not like 2 or 3. It would be nice if we could in politics select candidates who have different viewpoints on different topics, and we then get to support the one whose combination most matches our own.
If you have a small enough population in a large, resource rich country, it will work pretty well, no matter what. For the same reason that Libya worked pretty well under Gadaffi, despite having a command economy
Hmm... that doesn't sound like a bad idea. One could even circle the globe that way. Get away from all this shit for just under 80 days. Maybe write a novel or something.
Superman will not be happy about that.
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Keep you irrelevant comments to yourself, asshole. Talk civil or fuck off.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
You mean the same FEMA camps that were alleged to be used by Obama on people who were registered gun owners? Grow up and quit sucking Alex Jones' tit of conspiracy propoganda.
It is relevant, but apparently an expat from the European Zimbabwe is too stupid to understand it.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Why does that even matter?
On the other side you have an awful businessman, an awful man, and a really shitty plan that will bankrupt your country and only serve to make the rich not pay a bit of taxes (if they bother to pay taxes at all).
This is presented as if it's some big surprise. Did you know: everything Hilary did that she's being reamed for is something her colleagues had told her to do, and that they had done themselves in the past?
NO? Well now you do.
"Colluding with a foreign nation against the interests of America (Saudi Arabia/Qatar)"
So is that the next target for Putin? Destabilize the middle east oil supply? I know you lot don't get to see the big plan, but you'll be given a list of astroturf from the Kremlin
WHAT. THE. FUCK. Are you seriously saying that Saudi Arabia does not work against US interests? Have you seen their promotion of Wahhabism and Salafism, responsible for much of the jihaddi violence throughout the world? It's no coincidence that the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. The Crown Prince seems friendly the US, but most of the country is in the hands of ultra-conservative nutjobs. I trust Iran more than Saudi Arabia.
and it now appears that Comey has the evidence of intent he was missing before.
And you have evidence of this intent, all the sudden? I take it you have personal access to Comey or the laptop and e-mails that are in the FBI's hands, then?
Even they don't know what is/was in the e-mails, as they didn't have a warrant. How in the hell do you know that they magically have intent?
Most of the right's accusations are based on half truths. When one digs deeper, usually one finds more nuance.
For example, often people would come up to the Clintons and state, "We gave a donation to your foundation. By the way, could you please look into doing/changing X for us?"
It would be rude to say "no". One wouldn't get anywhere in life beyond a cubicle if they blew people off like that. Thus, the Clintons gave the same response as any non-autistic person would: "Sure, we cannot make any promises, but we'll look into it."
The Right finds that in leaked messages and shout, "Look! Collusion! Evil!"
SpinJob
Table-ized A.I.
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
Is that how you were able to get a ticket to the USA?
By the way, I am from Germany, dumbass.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Sweden is not in the NATO, dumbass.
Doesn't matter if it was or not. NATO would have gone absolutely ape-shit if the USSR had invaded.
Hell, the US funded a violent, bloody war in Afghanistan despite no one caring about that country.
Burning man 2.0.
Pay no attention to the ashes and the fact nobody ever leaves.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I love the fact these scumbags are down to the 'Nixon defense'.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
No. Their fates were sealed by mishandling classified evidence, which we know for a fact Hillary did as SOS, over and over and over and over again. Intent doesn't matter, the story presented by your defense attorney doesn't matter. All the government has to prove in court is that you were responsible for classified information, and you mishandled it.
If Hillary Clinton were Hillary Johnson, a low level official at the State Department that set up an unsecured, unauthorized server and proceeded to send top secret materials through it - she might get released from prison before she died behind bars of old age.
Wait, you're linking to a "Hillary says she's innocent" piece and treating it credibly? Nixon said he wasn't a crook, so he must not have done anything with that Watergate fiasco.
Oh! I just got a BINGO on my government conspiracy scorecard!