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Mark Zuckerberg Says Fake News on Facebook Affecting the Election Is a 'Crazy Idea' (fortune.com)

A lot of questions are emerging about Facebook's role in this year's election cycle, especially given the proliferation of sensationalistic and even outright fake news stories, and CEO Mark Zuckerberg has responded. From a report on Fortune: "I think the idea that fake news on Facebook -- of which it's a very small amount of the content -- influenced the election in any way is a pretty crazy idea," he said on Thursday at the Techonomy conference in Half Moon Bay, Calif., just two days after Donald Trump was elected president, according to media reports. "There have been hoaxes on the Internet, there were hoaxes before," he said. "We do our best to make it so that people can report that, and as I said before, we can show people the most meaningful content we can."

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  1. Show us the data by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To be blunt, what Zuckerberg "thinks" is irrelevant.

    He is in a position to obtain and have analysed the data - not just about whether the fake stories and lies are a "small proportion" of FB's content, but just how much that "small proportion" gets liked, reposted and commented on. Being a small proportion is meaningless if it is influential. And it is the influence that these fake stories have, not the quantity of them, which is important.

    One could also say that The Washington Post reaches only a small proportion of the world. But Zuckerberg considered it worth buying.

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    1. Re:Show us the data by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be blunt, what Zuckerberg "thinks" is irrelevant.

      He knows its irrelevant because they tried to bias the content against trump and for hillary, and it still didnt work.

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    2. Re:Show us the data by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since the same fake news in the rest of social and conventional media were visible, then you are saying "It is up to the people accusing the 'media' to show that the fake news influenced the elections."

      And frankly, despite the horror and pain this will cause, if the media had been honest (and the DNC not been complicit in primary vote and convention rigging), Hillary would not have been nominated. And Trump would not have been nominated either. Part of a pretty big influence.

      But, fortunately, this has worked our remarkably well. An unindicted felon has been denied access to the most important and powerful position on Earth, a businessman not beholden to destructive political and global interests has been elected, and the right people are angry. They should be angry. Their expressions of anger prove they are dangerous and must be called out and denied power.

      Facebook etc. were complicit in the attempt to elect a President such as Hillary Rodham Clinton. That they ultimately failed does not diminish their intentions, nor effort, but it does point out that they have interests of their own. You decide if those interests are aligned with yours, or if those interests work against you.

      You decide.

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  2. No, not fake news by bickerdyke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fake news on facebook did not effect the election. It was the people stupid enough to believe them.

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    1. Re:No, not fake news by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fake news on facebook did not effect the election. It was the people stupid enough to believe them.

      I have several friends who are Trump supporters, and a lot of them posted some of the most ridiculous stuff from non-credible news sources (think "less credible than InfoWars"). I wouldn't call any of them geniuses, but I wouldn't call them stupid either. Were they gullible and guilty of wishful thinking? Sure, but definitely not stupid.

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    2. Re:No, not fake news by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is a demonstration of the gulf between Left and Right in America, and actually in the entire world.

      The mainstream Left is absolutely convinced of their correctness. Their leadership I will not grant such standing, for I believe the leadership of the Left is merely seeking power at the expense of the rest of us.

      The Right is also absolutely convinced of the correctness of their intentions. They differ primarily in that they do not react to rejection with rioting, fires, and threats of murder. They regroup, attack each other as the cause of failure, and fail to respond to the Left's absolute dominance of education, media, and culture.

      But the Right has a different goal, and theirs permits individual liberty. The Left does not intend this, but conformity is the necessary goal to achieve a collective power structure.

      Great times.

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    3. Re:No, not fake news by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The mainstream Left is absolutely convinced of their correctness.

      Which is why they doubled down on the candidate they knew would win.

      A woman president, how can she lose! We don't need an independent socialist, he's not a real democrat anyway. I know we're right, ignore anyone that says otherwise.

  3. Facebook affected the election. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As did E-mail, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, Snapchat, IRC and I bet a Usenet server somewhere too.

    Welcome to the Internet where people can share any information, real or not.

    As it always has been, as it will be going forward.

    The DNC had the opportunity to control online discussion but decided to correct the record against Sanders supporters..

  4. Zucks is crazy by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Zucks is crazy if he thinks fake news couldn't have impacted the election.

    Maybe it didn't change who got elected, but it probably did affect a handful of voters. There are some stupid people out there, and some intelligent people who get fooled, and some average people out there who might be impressionable.

    Nonetheless, I guarantee you some people voted differently based on fake news they read. It might not have been a large %, it might not have impacted any state or federal level elections; however, some small local elections on a knife edge where just a handful of votes make a difference... maybe it did.

    Even if someone recognizes a fake news story as fake when they read it, if it is pillorying someone, it might make that person subconsciously think slightly less of that candidate, and less likely to show up to vote. (even if it didn't do enough to make them change who they would vote for).

    We're all impacted by what we see, read, and hear. Even if one article doesn't change our mind, reading 20 (some of which might be fake) could. I'm sure both presidential candidates lost votes because of untrue stories.

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  5. I thought Americans had freedom of speech... by bogaboga · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...Yes, freedom of speech which includes the freedom to say what may certainly be irrelevant, inaccurate or plain wrong to a particular situation.

    has anyone ever followed the State Department's press conferences? I am sure that for those who have, its provision of "nonanswers" to difficult questions exposed the hypocrisy and utter disregard for the ordinary American.

    One regime we support is "allowed" to humiliate some human beings, but if the regime isn't what we support, we condemn and sanction!

    The trouble is, we then brag about it and preach! Americans looked through the BS and elected who they did.

    FB should ask those who are complaining to go chew on some carrots if they're looking for how to get their mouths busy in a way.

  6. So, Zuck... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Mr. Zuckerberg,

    I was considering purchasing a bunch of ad impressions and various social-media astroturf to promote my product on your 'Facebook'; but I hear that it is 'crazy' to believe that Facebook has any influence on audience beliefs or behaviors.

    Please clarify.

    Sincerely, Your Customers.

  7. Re: Click Bait by Entrope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll make you a deal: You can be pissy about misleading news coverage on Facebook after you call out the rest of the media for not pointing out that "if you like your insurance/doctor, you can keep your insurance/doctor" were obvious lies.

  8. Clearly you are wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He is hiding his income and taxes

    Keeping private is not "hiding". Are you "hiding" your phone number? No? Post it then.

    He clearly hates non-white
    That's not what his black employees say, nor just that mesh with him picking Omarissa years ago to win The Apprentice (which also meant he would have to work with her).

    non-straight non-male people

    Trump is the most pro-gay GOP candidate there has ever been, far better for the LGBT community than Hillary would have been.

    As for women, well if Trump hates women so much why did he keep hiring them to lead his campaign, including the last one that led him to victory?

    He incites violence.

    Sorry I'm having trouble seeing the Trump violence over Portland burning, and the fake protestors the DNC hired to mess up Trump rallies.

    He knows next to nothing about anything.

    And yet he still won, so obviously what he does know is how to find and hire the right people who do know how to accomplish things.

    That he's a child molester?

    Claimed just before the election, and we are supposed to believe that.... meanwhile Hillary was covering for Bill having sex with under-age females for decades. Don't see you very against that you monster.

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    1. Re: Clearly you are wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And his VP is most anti-gay. Just wait.