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Microsoft Joins the Linux Foundation (techcrunch.com)
Microsoft today said it is joining the Linux Foundation as a high-paying Platinum member. Linux Foundation executive director Jim Zemlin said, "This may come as a surprise to you, but they were not big fans," describing the two's previous relationship. From a report on TechCrunch: The new Microsoft under CEO Satya Nadella, however, is singing a very different tune. Today's Microsoft is one of the biggest open source contributors around. Over the course of just the last few years, it has essentially built Canonical's Ubuntu distribution into Windows 10, brought SQL Server to Linux, open-sourced core parts of its .NET platform and partnered with Red Hat, SUSE and others. As Zemlin noted, Microsoft has also contributed to a number of Linux Foundation-managed projects like Node.js, OpenDaylight, the Open Container Initiative, the R Consortium and the Open API Initiative.ArsTechnica has more details.
Drink the koolaid and ascend to the mothership!
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Could they maybe see their way to helping out the WINE project?
Until that happens, I'm not really going to congratulate them.
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Systemd dotnet, with an integrated personal digital assistant
I keep saying it, MS wants out of the OS business. They want to build 'cloud' and charge you by the minute. Developing server/desktop OS is not the business they want to be in.
Theres good reason to be cautious, Microsoft doesnt exactly have a spotless record of playing nice with FOSS, but recent behavior , that is microsoft realising it can still make silly money selling Azure and various microsoft software packages to the linux world means that so far its been a pretty good citizen.
Now, I wonder if they'll eventually give us Office for linux. That'd make a LOT of suits happy.
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Anyone reminded of IBM?
Yep, the year of the Linux desktop is near - the last year. Muahahahaha...
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It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Microsoft never opened sourced the parts of .NET that would help most end users like WPF. Much of Microsofts open sourcing is of things that are already open source in the Linux ecosystem, and would not result in damage Microsofts products. Linux is dominate on servers, so Microsoft open sources server code, but does not open source desktop code where Microsoft is still dominate. The Ubuntu Windows thing is designed to hurt Linux by giving people a reason to not run Linux, instead allowing them to avoid Linux and run Linux apps on Windows, this will weaken the Linux user base and the Linux kernel. Another shrewd move by MS, and it also shows how stupid Ubuntu must be for participating in this and what a bunch of incompetent suckers Ubuntu is. If Ubuntu were really competent they would have done the reverse which is to have Windows apps run on Linux which would have been an advantage for Ubuntu.
Microsoft considering its conniving should not be allowed to join Linux Foundation. The Linux foundation charter should be amended to ban companies like MS who sell competing OSs.
Devil here. Just wanted to confirm that, yes, it's cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.
It's not that surprising. As Microsoft moves towards being a service company, they care less and less about keeping their own source closed or sabotaging open source projects. You can use Azure to run Linux just as easily as Windows. Why should Microsoft care, they get paid anyhow.
I doubt they'll ever open source their core product like Office, but if open sourcing their tools or contributing to open source projects makes it easier for people to use Microsoft services, that's money for Microsoft that isn't going to someone else.
They'll never be as open source friendly as some would like, but at least they're a lot less hostile. Since they got rid of Ballmer who was the obstinate type that kept trying pound square pegs into circle holes, they've been a lot more willing to accept that not every single part of a solution needs to be something from Microsoft.
Where's that guy who's sig predicted that Windows would one day be a Linux distro?
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This year: - Trump became president elect - The cubs win the world series...playing the INDIANS no less! - Apple stops having growth - Microsoft joins the Linux foundation If we have too many more things happen my head will explode and melt away. What's next? The discovery of real Unicorns?
*NOW* the adoption of systemd makes sense!
Call me paranoid, but I'd NEVER allow ANY MS software on any Linux machine *I* control. Just like using Windows 10, you can't audit who/what the OS is talking to, and what its sending to the "mothership".. In the case of MS porting Office to Linux, I would have the same concerns. For all we know, they'd put the "spyware" aspects of Windows 10 into Office for Linux so they could collect everything from Linux users also. To put it bluntly, I trust MS as far as I can throw them, which, being 66 years old, isn't *very* far.. I used/supported MS products for close to 20 years as a sysadmin, but decided I was done when I retired in 2010. Now its 100% Linux on my personal systems..
THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
Microsoft is completely done selling operating systems and software the way they were previously. Everything they're doing is 100% dedicated to getting people over to Azure, spending money by the hour forever rather than getting a one-time license payment. The company I work for is building a huge new project in Azure and it's amazing how much money Microsoft makes just by keeping data centers running on their services from failing...the bills are thousands per month and we're a tiny customer.
If they can make that much money just keeping the power and Internet flowing, why not outsource the development of operating systems to Linux? In that case joining the Linux Foundation makes sense. Windows Server 2016 is probably going to be the last "boxed" release of server software from them -- the push is to move workloads to Azure Service Fabric and rebuild everything as microservices anyway. All of their products are moving to the "Azure first" development model -- release everything to Azure first, then box it up as of a certain date and ship it to customers who want to pay for on-site licenses.
In about 10 or 15 years, Microsoft will be where IBM is now -- they will have an assured stream of perpetual revenue coming from customers who aren't locked into a particular OS, but are locked into them as a service provider. (True, you can switch cloud providers, but did I mention they're making it insanely easy for Microsoft customers to migrate in from the on-premises world?)
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Note that rapture index - record high 189 - 10 Oct 2016
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Step 1: Join
Step 2: Destroy from within
Seriously, does no one in the Linux organization see any problem with this? Microsoft pays money (peanuts to them) and can now influence Linux? Microsoft is capable of every dirty trick in the book. They have a habit of betraying "business partners", even I.B.M. They are the people who, through a Windows "security update" modified the eeprom on my notebook's NIC so that it wouldn't work in Linux and put code in Windows so that they could reinitialize it properly. When you make a deal with the devil you're not bringing him closer to your point of view, you can only expect to sink to his level.
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Yep:
1) Add incompatible extensions.
2) Don't document the standard ways of doing things, just their way.
3) Noobs who don't know any better write a lot of code that only works on Microsoft Ubuntu.
4) Companies that think they're using a common standard end up as chained to Microsoft's Linux as they were to Microsoft's web browser IE6.
At step 1 they can also rely on their typical bugs to introduce incompatibilities. It's amazing how they've always been able to weaponize their incompetence.
OK, so that is why it is so cold here in the UAE now, only 24 Celsius - someone must have left the door to hell open.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
"Microsoft today said it is joining the Linux Foundation as a high-paying Platinum member
In other news, cancer said today that it's joining your body as a parasitic member to your lifespan.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
...will it help with the global warming?
They're not really being open source, I mean in spirit I don't believe so.
What it is, is the crap they're pulling on windows is pissing off a lot of people. People are getting sick of it, and it's showing as anyone more technically inclined if they are able to for software reasons are drop microsoft like a bad habbit. Turning off updates, refusing to switch to windows 10 etc.
So they need to attack the opposition and alternatives, so that you can't except their datamining traffic system that they use to sell your personal data. If they can get everything integrated with windows so people find it more useful, everything in one place, to eventually start to promote the windows with linux to reduce usage of pure linux or to influence it's development to include parts of windows into linux distros so they can keep their greasy hands in everything.
It's the same strategy as anything else. Like all the telco companies in Canada. They snuff out any competition that is small enough or disrupts their price fixing, then all set their prices to roughly the same with the same service that's overpriced, so you have no alternative and it's a non issue.
If another company crops up that provides a better alternative they'll work hard to shut them down so they can keep being greedy.with overpriced services and tactics that invade your privacy.
I predicted something like this 10+ years ago in a /. post.
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Of course they joined. Since systemd Linux is pratically part of the family. ...
FLAMEWAR in 3 .. 2 .. 1 ..
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.” In 2004 and 2005 these were the mottos of Linux. On TVLinux, I stated that Microsoft will embrace Linux. People told me I was crazy.
I told you this would happen!!
The secure boot spec is revised as computer manufacturers want to be able to remove the option - as it reduces support costs.
You don't have to like it (I sure don't) but not understanding an issue before complaining is foolish...
The only important stuff on from the Linux Foundation is the LSB, and I see it mostly as a "Do everything the redhat way".
What evil could they do inside there? The real evil should be inside the kernel development community, and nobody is screaming against MS submitted patches.
Did they shell out a full $37? Showoffs!
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
Sounds like a vast right-wing conspiracy to me.
Trump did to the republicans and democrats.
Nice knowing ya.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
When they contribute serious resources to the Samba and Wine projects in a sincere effort to create truely seemless interoperability, port visual studio and other MS development tools, and then use those capabilities to make the open and closed .net implementations and have true feature parity I'll take notice. Oh and get rid of their anti-competitive attempts to own the browser. Nobody should own the browser, period.
Call me paranoid, but I'd NEVER allow ANY MS software on any Linux machine *I* control. Just like using Windows 10, you can't audit who/what the OS is talking to, and what its sending to the "mothership"
No, but I'd be much less concerned about an app... you can run it with any kind of restricted user or SELinux policy, firewall it, run all sorts of process and network monitoring and so on... sure you can't control the code but you can isolate the potential harm pretty well. You can't do much about Windows 10 though, it 0wns you.
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Remember the days of Bill Gates as a Borg on every Microsoft story here? Remember the days of MS being written as "M$"? Remember the days of every geek worth their salt on Slashdot loathed Microsoft? My my, times have changed. I for one, welcome it.
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Typical Microsoft.... They will embrace Linux then extend it with their own proprietary cr@pola like they have done with everything else.
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Microsoft's Silver Light is compulsory to run NetFlix on Linux. If there is any good will sought-after, Microsoft should end that situation.
This is otherwise known as "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer".