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NSA Chief: Nation-State Made 'Conscious Effort' To Sway US Presidential Election (aol.com)
The head of the US National Security Agency has said that a "nation-state" consciously targeted presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, in order to affect the US election. From an AOL article:Adm. Michael Rogers, who leads both the NSA and US Cyber Command, made the comments in response to a question about Wikileaks' release of nearly 20,000 internal DNC emails during a conference presented by The Wall Street Journal. "There shouldn't be any doubt in anybody's minds," Rogers said. "This was not something that was done casually. This was not something that was done by chance. This was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily. This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect." Rogers did not specify the nation-state or the specific effect, though US intelligence officials suspect Russia provided the emails to Wikileaks, after hackers stole them from inside DNC servers and the personal email account of Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta. At least two different hacker groups associated with the Russian government were found inside the networks of the DNC over the past year, reading emails, chats, and downloading private documents. Many of those files were later released by Wikileaks.Further reading: Quartz and MotherJones.
I am tired of the military-industrial complex requiring a boogie man to support their funding.
Hillary didn't lose due to Wikileaks. She lost because she promised absolutely nothing other than to be not Donald Trump.
Donald Trump promised to bring back jobs lost to off-shoring. He promised to bring back the parts of America that are hurting.
Hillary Clinton promised to say one thing and public and other things in private. She promised to continue the status quo of the elite ruling over us with little to no input from the public. She lost because her selling point was "first woman president!" and not policy.
She lost for a thousand reasons.
Wikileaks is not one of them.
They inadvertently did the job that our own media should have been doing, if it hadn't been entirely co-opted by the ruling party.
The lying media should be ashamed of itself, but isn't.
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The US has been mucking around influencing foreign governments for many, many decades. Kinda sucks when someone does it to us.
After reading some of the emails released, I am not sure the DNC could spell GPG let alone get it installed and use it correctly.
As far as I am concerned the only thing that is important was were the e-mails faked. If the were not than all said nation state really did was give us a better informed public.
Did they maybe not do the same to the other side? Who cares so what? Its not like all sorts of world leaders, and international organizations, didn't make their opinions known about who they wanted to be the next president. Should we image those acts and the resulting media coverage don't impact US elections?
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Just so I'm clear about your statement, you are saying it was incumbent upon the "lying media" to hack into the computer systems of one or all candidates (fair and balanced), breaking untold number of laws set forth by the computer fraud and abuse act, and disseminate the findings of which to the viewing public?
That's an interesting point of view.
I'm sorry, but your opinion seems to be wrong.
Unfortunately chances are we are dealing with Putin's proxy in the White House. Just the facts:
1) Trump had no interest in changing the GOP platform presented at the Republican convention, with one exception, he pulled all the hawkish lingo that condemned the Russian intervention in the Ukraine.
2) His second campaign manager Paul Manafort spent considerable time in the Ukraine working for the former president, and Russian asset, Viktor Yanukovych. He had to step aside when this connection became too much of an obvious liability to the Trump campaign.
3) The Russian deputy minister confirmed that they were in contact with the Trump campaign through-out the election process.
4) According to a CNN report, a Kremlin advisor admitted they coordinated with Wikileaks.
5) Trump has considerable business interests in Russia and visited the country often.
6) Trump exhibits considerable sexual appetite.
7) Russian "political culture" perfected the art of compromising politicians with embarrassing material, they even have a word for it.
8) Mother Jones reported that a retired Intelligence officer came forward, alleging that this is exactly what has been done to Trump.
But i sincerely think it made little to no difference in the result. The Dems are certainly trying to pin what's probably their worse election in history to the CIA but the sad truth is that Clinton was never a good candidate. She certainly was qualified for the job though, but that has little to do with what ends up appealing to the voter.
If she weren't running against Trump her number would've been way worse. And this is fucking Donald Trump we're talking about.
People are wanting to audit the presidential results, people are also claiming that Russia swayed the election...
Almost without exception, all of these same people are against stronger voterID laws. Just how do you think elections really get rigged anyway? You can spend vast amounts of money to sway someone and fail (see: Hillary) which is why real election tampering creates the votes it needs.
No other nation but the U.S. has such laughable weak authentication around voting. If you want to see results get more and more whack, by all means block voterID laws...
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The United States has been making "conscious efforts," one way or another, since at least the 1960's if not earlier. Unless the US has some super-special unique privilege among nations, then any nation can play in any way it pleases.
Have to agree. Hillary put me off with all the saber-rattling about no-fly zones in Syria and pushing all the news blaming Putin for the email hacks. Whether or not he had anything to do with them, she was still going to have to negotiate with him as POTUS.
China was a big supporter of Bill Clinton:
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The Snowden leaks showed us that the NSA uses lying, misinformation and subterfuge as its three main weapons. They have zero credibility and anything they publicly state are lies until proven otherwise.
Ain't that what one of them did w/ Trump's tax returns? It was only legal to release w/ his approval, yet they went out and did it anyway. So if they can do that, why not hack into Clinton's server and try and retrieve her deleted emails? Other than being in the tank for her?
The relevance here is lost on me. Are you saying that Putin and Trump are both actually Robin Williams?
I'm not sure how to take this statement. Apparently the NSA is good enough to detect a "hacker" and yet powerless to stop it. So if this was an example of "cyber-warfare" are we to expect that the US is completely open and vulnerable, since no counter-measures can be taken? It seems that "the enemy" is so good that they can get in, do damage, get out and get away with it.
Or MAYBE... this guy is just making all this shit up and John Podesta, who uses a GMAIL account - was simply phished. "I was hacked" is the usual excuse to try and hide your own bumbling incompetence when something like this happens. Risking a diplomatic incident to try and distract from your own or your colleague's incompetence is monstrous.
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Metaphorically the Russian bear is drunk as fuck, covered in puke in the gutter and babbling incoherently about 'former greatness'.
Former Soviet Republics should be ashamed of themselves for not being able to stand up to Russia. Sure the Ruskys have nukes, but their conventional forces would lose to Texas in a fair fight.
A large percentage of Hillary supporters are also morons. But well indoctrinated morons.
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It's Russia's fault that Debbie Wasserman Schultz rigged events in the DNC in favor of Hilary over Sanders
Releasing those emails a week before the election so that the FBI could start another investigation into them probably swung it for Trump. Turned out that there was nothing there though, mostly just duplicates and nothing really related to Clinton.
In other words, they released nothing but innuendo and triggered an investigation. How is that not corrupt and deliberately misleading the public? And in what way did the media lie about it? Seems more like they wouldn't shut up about it even when it turned out to be nothing, all the while damaging her campaign.
You live in a strange fantasy land where the mainstream media is somehow in the Democrat's pocket while also helping them to go from a near certain win to a loss. They lapped up Trump's campaign too, giving him massive amounts of free publicity every time he said something stupid or outrageous. They were actively helping him, playing into the hands of an obvious demagogue who fed off controversy and being deliberately offensive.
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I know one superpower that has intelligence service in the business of swaying elections and causing civil wars and fighting in them. it isn't Russia's
Another way to look at it is in addition to activists groups, corporations, billionaires, we now have nation stations lobbying for candidates.
If it takes a foreign nation hacking in our nation to make sure the Truth gets out, then so be it.
So John Podesta's fell for some phishing attack that allowed some hacker to access his account which happened to contain a treasure trove of incriminating emails from lots of people in the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media....and somehow that means that only one side was targeted??? I have the feeling that if some prominent Republican had also fallen for it and there were a lot of embarrassing emails in their account (i.e. not just yoga lesson schedules and wedding plans), that WikiLeaks would have ZERO hesitation in releasing them to the whole world. We have no proof that the hackers didn't try to get emails from everyone in both campaigns, but only Podesta fell for it.
Quoting Opinion pieces on left wing rags hardly establishes facts. Trump has the Ms. Universe pageant in the US more often than not, so I guess he's pro US. Then again, they voted a Japanese model Ms. Universe in 2007, so I guess he's a Japanese puppet.
Your argument is stupid, which says much about the author. Keep reading those left wing rags though, it's great for your mental health to live in an echo chamber.
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She promised to be someone with three decades of experience in Washington, someone with strong financial and political ties to Wall St. who didn't tweet weird xenophobic shit at all hours of the day and night.
That's one disqualification.
Whereas with Donald, I quite lost track.
The Russian intervention in Ukraine?
Russians gave Ukraine a low interest loan and a cheap rate on gas. The west wanted Ukraine to take on IMF loans with crushing austerity measures. The assistant secretary of state, Victoria Nulan, is on video bragging (in front of Chevron banners) about the billions spent to bring the country "the future it deserves" to mold Ukrainian politics to American Exceptionalist liking. And then you asshats have the chutzpah to claim that Russia was trying to influence the presidential election in the United States.
The IMF side couldn't win at the ballot box, so they started a goddamn coup against the elected government, even after early elections were agreed to. You think for a nanosecond that the United States would sit with its thumb up its ass if Russia overthrew the duly elected government of Canada or Mexico?
Dumb.
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