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Panasonic Invests $60 Million In World's First Laundry-Folding Robot (telegraph.co.uk)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Telegraph.co.uk: Panasonic has invested tens of millions of dollars in a robot that can reduce the time it takes to wash clothes by sorting clean items and folding them into neat piles. The electronics giant will pour $60 million into the startup behind the folding robot called Laundroid, which was first unveiled in October last year. The domestic robot has been a decade in the making and is expected to finally be available to buy next year. Created by Japanese company Seven Dreamers, the Laundroid can fold a shirt in ten minutes and sort clothing into types.
Seven Dreamers is yet to say how much the robot, which is around the same size as a fridge-freezer, will cost, but Panasonic is reportedly funding just 10pc of the project. Consumers place clothes in a drawer at the bottom of the Laundroid, which it then identifies, sorts and folds using a combination of image recognition software, advanced robotics and machine learning. It can fold a range of clothing items, including shirts, skirts, shorts and trousers, according to Seven Dreamers. The company plans to release the Laundroid in March 2017, and will unveil more details at the Consumer Electronics Show in January.

139 comments

  1. Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does it mean a load of shirts? Haha my kids can fold a shirt in 10 minutes.. Including the time spent convincing them

    1. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      My kids can make twenty shirts in that time. Each.

      But then again, they work for a Wal-Mart supplier in Bangladesh.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Haha my kids can fold a shirt in 10 minutes..

      This single task robot has nothing better to do. It is silly to spend money to make it faster just so it can have more idle time.

      Including the time spent convincing them

      If you want to speed up your kids, unplug the router until all the laundry is folded.

    3. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      my kids can fold a shirt in 10 minutes.. Including the time spent convincing them

      I want YOUR kids. Mine are un-bribable. They'd rather starve than do chores for money*. They'd make the most honest politicians ... and maybe the laziest.

      * Actually they sneak out and beg relatives for food, the little worms.

    4. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by samwichse · · Score: 2

      Nope, it really is that slow. The WSJ video states 5-10 minutes for a shirt, or 3-6 hours for a 40 shirt bin.

      Definitely a first-gen product, but hopefully in 10 years, they'll be a third the size and 3-4x the speed (fast enough to keep up with the washer/dryer).

      Apparently it can fold t-shirts, button down shirts, pajamas, towels, and shorts/pants in a mixed load. No mention of dresses in there... most of those get hung up anyway.

    5. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny
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    6. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      my kids can fold a shirt in 10 minutes.. Including the time spent convincing them

      yeah but you are also stuck with kids, dummy.

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    7. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by corychristison · · Score: 2

      In my house we hang mostly everything. Only stuff we do not hang is underwear, socks, and pajamas.

      For my kids I installed a second hanger bar in their closets, so they get twice the hanging space in one closet. Shirts on top, pants on the bottom, dresses wherever they prefer.

      No point wasting time folding, stuffing them in drawers, and getting all ruffled up anyway the next time they go digging for something. Hanging makes it easier to find what you're looking for at a glance.

      I suspect this robot is aimed at commercial applications.

    8. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand the idea of making kids do chores.

      YOU chose to have them and they didn't get a say in it - why should they have to work for you?

    9. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, a ten minute laundry robot means nothing now. Wait for Moore's law to kick in. A couple decades from now our shirts will fly out of the dryer pre-folded with enough velocity to penetrate kevlar armour.

    10. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This single task robot has nothing better to do. It is silly to spend money to make it faster just so it can have more idle time.

      A washing machine has a single task and nothing better to do. So does a tumble drier. Modern appliances speed up and simplify the task of cooking and performing laundry. Labor-saving devices in the home liberated women from a life of domestic servitude. It has been one of the most significant social and economic changes of our time. Nothing "silly" about it.

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    11. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't understand the idea of making kids do chores.

      YOU chose to have them and they didn't get a say in it - why should they have to work for you?

      Because they are not your customers and you are not their servant. They are your children who have to learn that they are not the center of the universe, that the world does not owe them a living, and that there's no way you'll get by in this life without working. Chores are the first act of learning to be a good citizen.

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    12. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      I suspect this robot is aimed at commercial applications.

      I figured the same at first, but this gen is a machine the size of a fridge that can do 1 shirt every 10 minutes. IMO, this model isn't aimed at commercial applications, cause my local laundrymat does drop off wash and fold at about $0.75/lb (including socks!) with one or two active employees doing lots of loads all day. You need to have an employee there, so you might as well have them wash and fold. Something this slow couldn't compete even if there were 10 of them - it'd be way more valuable to put in 5 more washer+dryers and, if needed, hire one more person.

      If this was way faster, it'd be great for commercial stuff. You'd still have to separate the laundry (only put in shirts, pants, whatever it can handle). Heck, make it only do shirts, as long as it was A LOT faster, it'd be great.
      If it was more versatile and cheaper, it'd be sufficient for home use. If you still have to do part of the load by hand, it's not worth it. Wrinkles also set while everything is sitting in a ball in the dryer (or in the drawer for this thing), so speed is still a concern, or you'll just end up with folded but wrinkled stuff.

      Long term looks promising, but I don't see the market for the first gen :-(

    13. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      FWIW, the WSJ article from last October (2015) is where it was noted that it takes 5-10 minutes a shirt. I don't see any quotes on its own site regarding that, and the article from the telegraph doesn't directly mention it, but does have a caption on a photo that says, "The Laundroid robot can fold and sort a pile of clothes in minutes", so *maybe* they've improved the speed?

    14. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      While my kids are "good" in the sense they don't get into trouble in terms of fights, vandalism, etc.; they won't do chores. We tried taking away privileges and gizmos, but they dig in. If we try to starve them, they sneak away and visit relatives or neighbors and make sad puppy-dog eyes so that the relatives feed them, AND give them gizmos to use.

      It's kind of like prisoners: they have all day to think about and discuss escape techniques, and therefore often outsmart the guards: it's a game to them. I honestly don't have the discipline to prevent or work-around all the tricks they've learned; it would consume most of my free time The prisoners won!

    15. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This single task robot has nothing better to do. It is silly to spend money to make it faster just so it can have more idle time.

      A washing machine has a single task and nothing better to do. So does a tumble drier. Modern appliances speed up and simplify the task of cooking and performing laundry. Labor-saving devices in the home liberated women from a life of domestic servitude. It has been one of the most significant social and economic changes of our time. Nothing "silly" about it.

      But if you own a washing machine and dryer, it WOULD be silly to bribe your children to wash and dry clothes by hand, just to avoid using the appliances you paid for.
      The folding machine is no different.

      The only time it isn't silly to bribe your children to wash dry and/or fold clothes manually by hand is if you don't or can't own those appliances. But if you can own any of those, spending more money bribing your kids to do the work of the machines sounds quite silly.

    16. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      yeah but you are also stuck with kids, dummy.

      You can always store them in the dryer when you aren't using them, or it.

    17. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At a five-digit id.... and you still don't know how to deal with people. Your life is half over. Get a grip

    18. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by ArtemaOne · · Score: 0

      Wow, please don't have more children.

    19. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't feel bad I truly believe kids are their own persons just remember when you were a kid. You cannot control them any better than oppressing an adult, so treat them like adults and use natural and not arbitrary consequences. Guide, help, and support as much as you can and the rest is left to destiny. They might make mistakes but so do I as I seem to learn everything the hard way.

    20. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yay! Now women live in corporate servitude instead...

    21. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      > If you want to speed up your kids, unplug the router until all the laundry is folded.

      Darn kids today, spending all their time in the woodshop... get outdoors! Get some fresh air!

    22. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To teach them responsibility, so they can contribute to the family unit and feel like they're a part of it.

      It's obvious you're just a spoiled brat. I think I hear your mom calling to you that your chicken tendies are ready.

    23. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      Forty-eight shirts could be folded in an eight hour overnight. Why spend money so that it can be done in an hour instead, especially if that means possible damage to the clothing? It is no additional drudgery to put those forty-eight pairs away whether done in an hour or eight, it's just decoupled from the time they were washed. Mostly, washed clothes are not put into service immediately.

    24. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Does it mean a load of shirts? Haha my kids can fold a shirt in 10 minutes.. Including the time spent convincing them"

      My Roomba also needs 10 times more for vacuuming than the kids.

    25. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by antdude · · Score: 1

      If you unplug the router, then the adults like parents would freak out. ;)

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    26. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by jandersen · · Score: 2

      This single task robot has nothing better to do. It is silly to spend money to make it faster just so it can have more idle time.

      No, this falls firmsly into the category of silly gadgets, as it stands. There will be people who will buy it, but that is for the coolnes-value, not because it solves a tedious problem. A rfaster version with bigger capacity might be useful in a large laundry, though.

    27. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by jandersen · · Score: 1

      I don't understand the idea of making kids do chores.

      Depends on how you go about it. It is certainly the duty of parents to give their children the best possible introduction to life in a society, and part of that unfortunately involves working for a living. And being gently "forced" to perform useful tasks also gives a child the opportunity to learn, that even a tedious chore isn't all bad - there may be a reward at the end, they may learn a useful skill, they may learn that making a few mistakes isn't the end of the world (and that there are ways to correct problems along the way), they may receive a boost in self-confidence from knowing they have done something that is appreciated and so on. This all depends on the parents - there are some, who can turn any experience into a nightmare for the child by always criticising and punishing.

    28. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you unplug the router, then the adults like parents would freak out. ;)

      You mean like the stuff Americans see in the silly AT&T commercials... "Don't worry, your Internet is on."

    29. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Washing machines haven't really gotten any faster since their invention though. If anything they got slower, as more elaborate programs and modes were added. Typical cycles are what, 1 to 2 hours? Ours has a low energy, low water consumption mode that takes 3.

      It doesn't matter if you can just walk away and come back later. It still saved you having to do that manual labour.

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    30. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      While my kids are "good" in the sense they don't get into trouble in terms of fights, vandalism, etc.; they won't do chores.

      Wow...just....wow.

      What has happened to people having kids and parenting today??!?!?

      When I grew up as a child, there was no such things as "children won't do something". If my parents told me to do something, I hopped to it. If I didn't there were consequences. An ass whooping was the very last resort and rarely happened, especially if being told to do something around the house.

      I was taught very early in life where my place in the family was, and it certainly was NOT top of the heap, making decisions for what was done around the house. No, I would not say for a minute that my parents were overbearing, they were being PARENTS. And their word was the final word in matters in the family and the law of the land.

      I had respect for and still do what they say.

      I'm not saying I never got in trouble and didn't try to do things I wasn't supposed to do. Sometimes I did get away with things and other times I did not and I was punished. The punishment fit the "crime" so to speak, but it was sever enough that I did NOT want to do it again.

      Not sure about you saying your kids would "sneak off"...WTF? One of my punishments when I got older near the teen years was..grounding. When I was home, leaving home was NOT an option.

      From your writings...it sounds like your kids have run of the house and that you are not in control.

      Not sure how you lost it, perhaps you never had it.

      But with kids....you are a parent first, not a friend.

      I'm great friends of my parents now, I love them and do all I can for them, but that only happened as an adult.

      As a child under their roof, while when I did things properly, life was good. But if I were to stray and such, I had the fear of God of them. I was never mistreated, I had what I considered to be a normal childhood, and this was pretty much the same with all my friends at the time.

      It was unthinkinable to say "NO" to may parents then they gave me a command.

      What happened to proper parenting since then? A home is not a democracy....it is a dictatorship with the parents in command, entrusted to teach the children life skills and send them on their way in the world.

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    31. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fool
      Up voted good posts. Will not waste it on this knucklehead.

    32. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All so they can become the CEO of Reddit and blame their failures on everybody else while screeching about how canoes are symbols of genocide. Yay progress.

    33. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand the idea of making kids do chores.

      That's because you're an idiot.

      1. If you want a functioning adult, you have to teach the child things like responsibility, self-discipline, and the value of work. If you want a crybaby moron who is a failure that blame his failure on everyone else (e.g., society, white people, or whatever bogey man they can dream up), then by all means don't make them do anything.

      2. Because they make the most fucking mess. Are you your child's butler? WTF is wrong with you?

    34. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      it sounds like your kids have run of the house and that you are not in control. Not sure how you lost it...

      It's called becoming a teen. A whole new set of aggressive hormones kicks in. They welcome power struggles and have all day to plan, plot, and work around it such that it becomes a war of endurance and attrition.

      I would boot them out, but they'd want that: work in a burger joint and live with a bunch of room-mates to cut costs. Their graduation is more important than winning a nasty power struggle in my opinion.

    35. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I think studies show that women spend nearly as much time on domestic chores as ever.

      Yes, washing without a machine was a long and laborious task, but it may shock you to learn that people didn't wash 1-2 full changes of clothes a day in the time before the washing machine.

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    36. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'd take the punishment.

      It was more satisfying to have personal agency than to not be punished.

      perhaps an asswhooping motivated you, but not everyone is the same, plenty of people are completely unmotivated by asswoopings.

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    37. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      perhaps an asswhooping motivated you, but not everyone is the same

      Indeed. My kids even threatened to turn me in for "child abuse" if I whipped them with a belt. They got WTF, a lawyer app?

      As my mom used to say about teens: "It's a shame all that energy and determination is wasted on sheer stubbornness."

    38. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time is money especially for a machine costing $60 million.

    39. Re: Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by samwichse · · Score: 1

      6 hours is 360 minutes.

      It can fold a pile in minutes... 360 minutes :)

    40. Re:Fold a shirt in 10 minutes? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      I think studies show that women spend nearly as much time on domestic chores as ever.

      Yes, washing without a machine was a long and laborious task, but it may shock you to learn that people didn't wash 1-2 full changes of clothes a day in the time before the washing machine.

      Bunkum. I'm old enough to remember my mom leaning over the bath scrubbing clothes on a washboard for a family with five children. Her first automatic washing machine was a godsend. Now with families getting smaller I have my doubts about your studies.

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  2. Sixty Million??? by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 3, Funny

    My Mom will do it for half that!

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    1. Re:Sixty Million??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Confirmed. She will fold laundry too.

    2. Re:Sixty Million??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30 million, you got taken, $30 for me and yes laundry was included

    3. Re:Sixty Million??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's probably 30 million rupees, which converts to about US$9.98.

    4. Re:Sixty Million??? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Well played, sir. Well played.

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    5. Re: Sixty Million??? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      But will she launder the folds?

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  3. I was too early by TJHook3r · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had a business selling laundry robots but it folded :(

    1. Re: I was too early by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      So now you're folding @ home?

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    2. Re: I was too early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! Best laugh I had all day. But you owe me a new keyboard...

  4. Here's an idea... by moosehooey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Put your shirts on hangers
    2. Buy a bunch of the same kind of socks and just throw them all in a drawer
    3. Pile underwear into a drawer flat
    4. Only have to fold pants and shorts, and that's quick and easy
    5. Way cheaper than this thing will probly be...

    1. Re:Here's an idea... by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      What happens to all the unemployed robots?

    2. Re:Here's an idea... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      4. Only have to fold pants and shorts, and that's quick and easy

      These are all good tips, but you can also buy hangers for pants that are faster than folding and don't leave a crease. I do no folding: shirts and pants go on hangers. Socks and underwear are just tossed in the drawer.

    3. Re:Here's an idea... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Pile underwear into a drawer flat

      Why flat? It doesn't matter: it's underwear. If somebody complains your underwear is wrinkled, either you are wearing it wrong (Superman style?), or need new friends.

    4. Re: Here's an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      also pants wont rincle or creece

    5. Re:Here's an idea... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Always remember: They are not good for another week if you turn them inside out. Ladies, especially.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    6. Re:Here's an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, yes, spoken by a family of 1, congratulations....

    7. Re:Here's an idea... by chispito · · Score: 1

      1. Put your shirts on hangers 2. Buy a bunch of the same kind of socks and just throw them all in a drawer 3. Pile underwear into a drawer flat 4. Only have to fold pants and shorts, and that's quick and easy 5. Way cheaper than this thing will probly be...

      That's not an efficient way to store clothing and takes up a lot of space. Each item takes up the thickness of the garment plus the thickness of the hanger. And your garments aren't all the same size so there is going to be wasted space between bars.

      Basically, few people have enough closet space for that.

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    8. Re:Here's an idea... by vlad30 · · Score: 1

      1. Put your shirts on hangers

      While still wet will minimise ironing

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    9. Re:Here's an idea... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      4. Put your pants on hangers

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    10. Re:Here's an idea... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      >Why flat?

      You can get more in a small drawer if it's folded flat. The more underwear you own, the longer the spread between laundry days.

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    11. Re:Here's an idea... by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      1. Adjust to mind state to be comfortable with wrinkled clothes
      2. Done.

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    12. Re: Here's an idea... by lord+merlin · · Score: 1

      Sensei Kreese doesn't wear pants.

    13. Re:Here's an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's very few people that would see your underoos... Either you're getting laid, at the doctors office, at a gym changing room, or in the morgue. Either way, I don't care if they're wrinkled.

    14. Re:Here's an idea... by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      Always good to see a right-thinking fellow. Pip-pip!

    15. Re:Here's an idea... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Panasonic also makes a cordless mini iron that can be used with clothes on hangers. The advert showed an office worker waking up one morning with his only shirt slightly crumpled from the night out before... And he fixes it with the iron and goes to work.

      I can't remember if it was Panasonic or Sharp that makes a washing machine that "irons" clothes for you too. It has some kind of high power air jet that somehow inflates the clothes and gets most of the creases out. It's not perfect but I'm too lazy to do any serious ironing anyway.

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    16. Re:Here's an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pants are supposed to have a crease, unless you're talking about clothes outside of work (or an unprofessional work place).

    17. Re:Here's an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not an efficient way to store clothing and takes up a lot of space.

      Most people have more space than time. Spending hours of time prioritizing the efficiency of temporary garment storage is not an efficient use of a finite resource.

  5. Am I doing it wrong? by dohzer · · Score: 2

    Am I doing it wrong if I just throw all my clean clothes in a basket and place them in my wardrobe until needed?

    1. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, your clothes are getting all rumpled from cooling down in a heap in the basket. Much like an iron heats a shirt and once wrinkles are pressed out of it the shirt stays unwrinkled because it is allowed to cool while smooth.

    2. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you probably just end up looking like most of the guys who work for me. Like you slept in a basket in the closet............

    3. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Actually, back in my more bachelor days, I just left them in the dryer. Why bother folding them and putting them in the closet?

    4. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by dohzer · · Score: 1

      Not customer-facing, so who cares. My old team-lead didn't even wear shoes/socks around the office.

    5. Re: Am I doing it wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My *boss* doesn't wear shoes around the office. It's actually a little eww

    6. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may not be customer facing, but presumably you are colleague facing, right? I don't understand how people (mostly men if I'm honest) feel ok with going to work looking like they just woke up under a bridge. I'm not saying software developers (or similar) need to start wearing suits, but for me it's a measure of respect to wear a well-ironed shirt, some decent (i.e. long) pants (nice looking jeans would be fine), and a pair of decent shoes or at least stylish sneakers (leave the running shoes at home). Personally, if my shirt doesn't have a collar, I feel like I'm going to work in only underwear...

    7. Re:Am I doing it wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dirty clothes hamper is the clothes washer.
      My clean clothes hamper/hanger/drawer is the clothes dryer.
      No folding, no drawers, no closet, no searching where something is.
      If something might be 'rumpled', put it on & spray with 'relaxing'/'de-wrinkling' product and go

  6. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I shove everything into the washer, then dryer, then hang the shirts in the closet and stuff everything else into a drawer. Nothing needs folded except towels and bed linen. Are you supposed to fold underwear or socks? Nobody sees them, so why bother?

    1. Re:Why? by youngone · · Score: 2

      Nobody sees them, so why bother?

      My Aunt used to iron and fold everything she washed, including underwear and socks.

      I asked her why she spent 4 or 5 hours ironing every Sunday, and she seemed to think it was the proper thing to do.

      She was a lovely lady, and other than the weird laundry thing, very normal.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't really to keep out the wrinkles, but to sanitize the clothes. It wasn't that long ago that people washed cotton diapers at home, and it wasn't that long ago that infectious disease killed thousands. People knew about germs, and were taught that boiling-hot heat killed germs.

      Forty years ago there was a shift in the culture where we used chemicals to disinfect, and turned down our water heaters to 135-145(F), down from as high as 175. There were TV commercials which taught that 165 water causes 3rd degree burns in 3 seconds. Babies and the elderly were dying, apparently.

    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to turn our hot water heater temperature UP before I take a bath, because the tub fills so slowly and the cold porcelain sucks the heat right out of the water. By the time it's deep enough to get in, it's lukewarm and the water coming out of the tap is cold.

      Solution: If I let the tub fill with VERY hot water, it cools to around 100 and there's enough hot left at the end to top it off if it's not warm enough.

      Of course I turn the temp back down when I'm done! Don't want to scald anyone else in the house.

    4. Re:Why? by plover · · Score: 2

      May I recommend a thermostatic mixing valve? It lets you keep your water heater very hot, but delivers the hot water mixed with cold water at the set point of the valve. You can then run a separate pipe from the water heater to appliances that need the very hot water, such as the dishwasher or washing machine. It also delivers more water than a regular water heater set to a safer temperature like 120F, effectively extending the capacity of a water heater by 20% or more.

      I wouldn't recommend you plumb the very hot water directly to the tub, as the risk of scalding would be too great.

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    5. Re: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I let the tub fill with VERY hot water, it cools to around 100

      How do you keep the steam in the tub? Is it more of a pressure vessel? Or just magic?

    6. Re: Why? by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Don't be silly, he's clearly not using Celcius as his temperature scale.

      Must admit though, wouldn't fancy a 100K bath myself.

    7. Re:Why? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      That can't be good for energy efficiency though! Unless it allows you to get away with a much much smaller tank or something. In general the greater the temperature delta between the water and the environment surrounding the tank the faster its going too lose energy. So you will have to invest more power in keeping it hot.

      I don't know that this will impact tank life much for gas powered systems but its certainly going to chew up heating elements (replaceable usually) faster in electric tanks.

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  7. Anyone considered buying wrinkle resistant clothes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess selling to the wealthy, but really if you have that much money loading and unloading the thing would be beneath you anyway. And why spend money to make the hired helps lives easier ?.

    I mean, I process an entire load of laundry in less than the time it takes this to fold a shirt, really ?.

  8. won't work for slashdotters by avandesande · · Score: 1

    who is going to take the clothes out of the dryer?

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    1. Re:won't work for slashdotters by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      who is going to take the clothes out of the dryer?

      Oh come on, you're not thinking this through.

      How do they get into the washing machine in the first place (with the correct cycle) and then into the dryer (at the correct temperature) in the first place?

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    2. Re:won't work for slashdotters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Duh! You take them out of the dryer when you put them on.

    3. Re: won't work for slashdotters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a shoot thats divided into color,white,dark and a smart washer that cleans when full or timed. when it is done smart arms with sensors can differentiate seperate clothing and type that is identified and logged and folded accordingly.

    4. Re:won't work for slashdotters by jrumney · · Score: 3, Funny

      How do they get into the washing machine in the first place (with the correct cycle) and then into the dryer (at the correct temperature) in the first place?

      My Mom has been asking me that same question for the past 25 years, but I still haven't figured out the answer. As far as I am concerned, it is magic. I leave my clothes on the bathroom floor, and the next evening they have appeared in my bedroom drawer, all without me needing to leave the basement.

    5. Re:won't work for slashdotters by HyperQuantum · · Score: 1

      You have a bathroom in your basement?

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  9. Not like that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like this!

    Stupid robot!

  10. where would this make sense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This may make sense in a department store or other clothing stores where you can feed the clothes from the dressing room to the bot and it can fold them before being put back on shelves. But in the home? What is the carbon footprint we're adding just to not have to fold clothing?

    Ultimately this AI feature would end up in a more mobile and agile home servant robot.

    But I mean come on. Seriously? Are we going to offload any and all physical activity to bots? Are we all going to end up wheelchairs to save us from the horrible burden of walking? I mean I could just see a bot-chair taking us from our home and into our self-driving cars.

    There is a fine line where things cross into the unnecessary, and even absurd, when it comes to technology.

    1. Re:where would this make sense? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Carbon footprint? I would be OK with the global temperatures rising 5 degrees as long as I never had to fold laundry again!

  11. I want a robot that makes clothes. by Proudrooster · · Score: 1

    Folding is easy!

    I want to go stand a platform and get scanned by a 3D scanner, chose my options on a touch screen, come back in 30 minutes and have clothes that fit made by a robot. I will fold them myself, finding clothes that actually fit and don't need tailoring is far more time consuming that folding.

    1. Re:I want a robot that makes clothes. by sheramil · · Score: 2

      Folding is easy!

      .. for a primate. try getting a robot to do it. no, that shirt's left sleeve is inside-out - straighten it first.. okay, now the whole thing is inside-out. stupid robot! can't you even detect when a complex three-dimensional shape made of a deformable material has been partly inverted?

      how about we get the first poster's kids and put them in a box? they can fold clothes forever and we don't even have to program them to do it.

      you might need to replace them when they starve.

    2. Re:I want a robot that makes clothes. by magarity · · Score: 3, Informative

      I want to go stand a platform and get scanned by a 3D scanner, chose my options on a touch screen, come back in 30 minutes and have clothes that fit made by a robot.

      Substitute "tailor" for "robot" and there's an entire district of Hong Kong where you can get this done.

  12. Application by Dirk+Becher · · Score: 2

    I've invented a robot that separates clean clothes and dirty ones and shreds them into neat piles. You can buy the licence on a piece-produced basis.

  13. Too little by denbesten · · Score: 1

    I'd be much more interested if I could throw in dirty clothes into the drawer and have it start by sorting and washing them.

  14. 10 minutes by denbesten · · Score: 1

    10 minutes for a shirt is no big deal. I generate maybe 6 washable items a day, as do the others in my house. Until my house grows to 24 people, it will keep up.

  15. I want a robot that writes decent news stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of all the things that I might want a robot might do, folding clothes is certainly not one of them. Better would be a robot that writes robust software, or one that invents plausible news stories.

  16. Folding shirts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If it folded fitted sheets, I'd buy that for a dollar.

  17. Some inside info... by fullback · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was a consultant for Panasonic in Japan about 20 years ago and I can tell you that after Matsushita Konosuke (the founder) died, it has been run by idiots.

    I was doing a walk through at a (now bankrupt) subsidiary that was the darling of the company at the time. I asked about trading data backup between locations in western Japan, since all of their designs and corporate history was on PCs. The vice president I was with was perplexed by the question. I asked an engineer beside us at his desk about back up, and he smugly pulled a CD-R out of his desk drawer and showed it to me with a smile.

    I took the CD, then the lighter on his desk and started melting it.

    Anyway, I remember the spirited discussions as they said the "Internet Refrigerator" was going to be the hit product for a decade. A housewife would look in the refrigerator, them make a shopping list on the computer built into the door of the refrigerator, then keep the list on the internet because it was the internet!

    I was a heretic who said it would never replace the paper, pencil and magnet. They spent GDP of small nation on that piece of crap.

    That engineer is probably a top executive now...

    1. Re:Some inside info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I took the CD, then the lighter on his desk and started melting it.

      No you did not. Try trolling better.

    2. Re:Some inside info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you were wrong and also an idiot.

    3. Re:Some inside info... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      To be fair their internet connected air-con units are very popular. Like every other company, they developed a lot of IoT tech that ultimately failed, but had a few hits and learned from them.

      Japanese companies like Panasonic survive by staying on the cutting edge in terms of features. Why pay for a high quality Panasonic fridge when you can get a cheaper Samsung, or even cheaper Biko or whatever from Eastern Europe or China? Aside from quality, the main differentiation is features.

      Current Panasonic fridge models have ion generators to keep food fresh and kill mould. They moved the compressor unit to the top were stuff is hard to reach anyway, giving you bigger drawers at the bottom. The drawers pull right the way out on strong rails, so stuff at the back is easily accessible.

      I recently drove a Hyundai Ioniq electric car. On paper it looks good. Loads of features like adaptive cruise control, high efficiency, actually a reasonably well made and nice interior... But it falls down on design. The driving position is rubbish, the instrument cluster is a mess (especially for an EV where you don't get engine noise cues) and the thing handles like a boat. It's not a patch on the Nissan Leaf, and the more you drive other EVs the more you realize just how good the design of that car is. They didn't just make an EV, they really thought about it. And that's what Panasonic try to do, otherwise they would just be Samsung.

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    4. Re:Some inside info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what happens when you let people who don't understand IT steer development. I'm sure the typical slashdotter has seen it countless times.

    5. Re:Some inside info... by fullback · · Score: 1

      There was an unspoken rule at the time that Japanese employees had to go buy new consumer products when they're released. Kind of like the ultimate corporate Ponzi scheme - tens of thousands of people buying their own products with the salary from sales of the products they're buying. Or something like that . . . ;)

  18. If it can fold cloths, by John.Banister · · Score: 2

    then I reckon it can tell whether a given article of clothing is in folded condition. So, they could make a much more valuable robot - one that goes around, picks up all the clothing that isn't folded and brings it to the laundry. Next task: clothing recognition - being able to pull an article of clothing from the dryer and return it to the room from which it was originally collected.

    1. Re:If it can fold cloths, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next task: get the dead kittens out of the washing machine.

  19. If you wear cheap cloths by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    they don't get rumbled. Don't know about the rest of the world but in America if you can afford cloths that get ironed for something other than a funeral you're doing really, really good.

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    1. Re:If you wear cheap cloths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if I understand you. Are you saying that you don't iron your shirts? Or that only the very wealthy wear dress shirts? Makes no sense.

    2. Re:If you wear cheap cloths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always get a kick out of this, cheap clothes are easier to maintain, why do people even want the other clothes?

  20. Cats will hate it by kylemonger · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't want to deprive my cat the simple joy of sitting on warm folded laundry. I don't get the big deal about folding; I just put some podcast on and zone out; the movements are automatic.

  21. I enjoy folding my clothes and putting them away. by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    I enjoy folding my clothes and putting them away. Especially the ones I carefully selected and thus like very much.
    It's one of those many simple household tasks that have a deep zen-like vibe to it if you put yourself it in the right mood and attempt to keep a household leaning towards minimalism. Pure bliss. And no, I'm not joking.

    Same with manual dishwashing. I have a set of small wooden japanee soup bowls I use for tea, soup, cereal and everything else that requires small bowls. Washing them by hand is a pure pleasure. Something some rich dude who can afford a massive, complex, space-wasting laundry folding bot would actually pay money for to do on some relaxing zen-retreat or some non-sense the super-rich need to chill out from chasing all that money. I would cringe if anyone would put a bowl like that into a dishwasher. And I'd then probably hit him.

    This bot is something straight of of that "Brasil" movie. I only see a place for something like this in a hotel or so - where massive amounts of laundry have to be folded by a certain standard. And fast. For private households this is utter non-sense and a waste of resources and a burden on the environment. If you are so freakin rich and have tons of linen for your 30-bedroom villa then get personell to do your laundry just like any other self-respecting super-rich person.

    My 2 cents.

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  22. Ironing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    1. the japanese are fastidious and nearly OCD about
              folding clothes... don't have the link but I've
              seen it...
    2. there is no mention of ironing, which is generally
              a longer process than folding... so you iron your
              clothes, then jumble them together in the drawer and
                let the robot take it from there...
    3. sounds like a maintenance/replacement parts nightmare,
            not to mention the size.

  23. Useless today, but not tomorrow by aberglas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the sign of things to come.

    A machine that can identify and sort clothes may have limited use by itself, but just think of what is involved in making it. Not easy at all. Tomorrows machine will be able to pick up the clothes from the kids floor, put them in the washing machine, hang them out to dry (I'm not American), and then iron them and fold them. And it will only cost $1,000. That is a machine that will sell once it can also make the bed and vacuum the floor.

    Now put that machine in a hotel and what happens to the army of cleaners?

    Anthony

    1. Re:Useless today, but not tomorrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prior Patent Disclosure.

      Already done. In an old 'Lost in Spac'e episode, Maureen tips the clothes into the washing machine.and after a 30 second cycle removes the shirts and items clean, ironed and in packed into plastic bags. The real work was sorting out with bags as they were removed from the machine.

    2. Re:Useless today, but not tomorrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now put that machine in a hotel and what happens to the army of cleaners?

      They blame white people for making them poor, demand citizenship and public assistance.

  24. Fold a Shirt in less than 2 Seconds... by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

    They should spend sometime viewing youtube, I saw this being done many years ago.
    So it's not like it's being kept as some big secret https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  25. Re:I enjoy folding my clothes and putting them awa by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

    It's one of those many simple household tasks that have a deep zen-like vibe to it if you put yourself it in the right mood

    My vibe on this is that "I did this same thing just two weeks ago and I did it well. Why the hell am I forced to do the same job over and over and over?" Dishwashing falls into the same category.

    I would cringe if anyone would put a bowl like that into a dishwasher. And I'd then probably hit him.

    Ahh, grasshopper, if your path to true enlightenment through repetitive menial labor leads to violence, then you have taken a wrong turn somewhere near Alba-querky, Doc.

    I only see a place for something like this in a hotel or so - where massive amounts of laundry have to be folded by a certain standard. And fast.

    Ten minutes per shirt is not fast. And I much prefer that my shirts come back from commercial laundries on hangers instead of being folded and stuffed into a bag so they wrinkle.

  26. Better than a butter robot? by barc0001 · · Score: 2

    "What is my purpose?"

    "You fold shirts"

    "Oh My God."

  27. Re:Anyone considered buying wrinkle resistant clot by dcooper_db9 · · Score: 2

    why spend money to make the hired helps lives easier ?

    Yeah, and what's with all those washers and dryers? The staff can do that too!

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  28. What? That's too much! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just look here:

    www.ukrainebrides.com

  29. A Better Way... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is much faster just to overturn your laundry basket somewhere near the heap of allegedly "clean" clothes & towels.

  30. Re:I enjoy folding my clothes and putting them awa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, its a break from being in front of the screen and sitting down. I fold two loads of laundry for my wife and I in about 20 minutes, besides the excersize it gets me semi outside (apartment laundry I fold them from/on the machines), also during the process I get a good look on which items need to be tossed or mended. Same here for dishes, its a just before bed task, kinda the last (easy) accomplishment of the evening as well as knowing I have stuff clean in the morning.

    I wonder how well folding robot maintenance tech jobs will pay...

  31. The ultimate test for such a robot... by jdeisenberg · · Score: 1

    Folding fitted sheets.

  32. There is a cheaper option due to come out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (posting as AC to preserve moderation)

    First, I note that every folding machine I have ever seen only ever seems to focus on one item. There;s a machine to fold shirts, a machine to fold pants and so on. (I've been in a few very large scale laundry facilities and watch automation videos on youtube all the time)

    This machine, and the much cheaper Foldimate promise to fold a large subset of the household laundry. The Laundroid holds the promise of being able to literally dump a basket of laundry in it at night and have it all neatly folded by morning. Problem is, for myself and I believe many households, laundry is done in batches larger than one load.

    The Foldimate, on the other hand, will only fold things that can be clipped up on the little clips. (much like a pants or skirt hanger) BUT, it appears to fold an item within 30 seconds, meaning it could conceivably fold and output items pretty close to the speed I could pull them out of the basket and clip them up. It offers the ability to steam and/or scent the folded item on its way out, but I don't care about that part. It's not even at the pre-order stage, but it is closer to market release than the Laundroid and is slated to price out between 700 and 850U$, with a discount for people willing to put down a deposit.

    For my household, the Foldimate is the clear choice. On a Saturday, when we are doing many loads of laundry, the Foldimate will keep up with the output of the dryer. (Drying always takes longer than washing, that is the current choke point, so much so that I have sometimes wished we had room for a second dryer) It will fold all the shirts, pants and towels while I deal with the socks, underwear and so on. Also, I suspect that the 700-850 US price point is going to make it attractive to a MUCH larger demographic than the Laundroid. The Laundroid has no official pricing yet, and not even much speculation beyond "several thousands". Having seen videos of laundry sorting and folding research machines online, I have the general idea of what the Laundroid is probably doing inside that glossy Fridge form factor. There is likely one or two delta style robotic arms, along with at least two, possibly three high resolution cameras, last years version of a four core processor and a fair bit of RAM. My estimate of the BOM is roughly 2 grand U$, so I'm WAG a retail price of 5 grand and up. So buyers can get a machine that handles between half and 3/4 of their laundry folding needs for under a grand, or get a more capable machine that costs as much as a used car. (note, the Foldimate, and presumably the Laundroid can do pillow cases, but not sheets. All the videos I have seen for either machine though feature only t-shirts in long and short sleeves, arguably the easiest garment to fold.)

  33. As long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As long as it wouldn't nag me to death and get fat, I'm all for it.

  34. I see trademark issues by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    Surly someone will have trademarked "lawn mower".

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  35. Privacy? by diga33 · · Score: 1

    Did anyone noticed the line in the laundroid site

    "The data from loT network will be transferred to seven dreamers original server, to provide the better customer service."

    Where have I heard this before?

  36. I enjoy hand-washing my clothes by PPalmgren · · Score: 1

    I enjoy hand-washing my clothes and putting them away. Especially the ones I carefully selected and thus like very much.
    It's one of those many simple household tasks that have a deep zen-like vibe to it if you put yourself it in the right mood and attempt to keep a household leaning towards minimalism. Pure bliss. And no, I'm not joking.

    Household chores, such as washing clothes, hanging them to dry, washing dishes, going daily to the store because of lack of refrigeration, and managing a fire for dinner took up significant chunks of the day. The low-hanging fruit is gone so they're working on the smaller tasks now (roomba and laundry folding robot). If they can make them cheap enough, they could become ubiquitous and hit a home run.

  37. Modern parenting by sjbe · · Score: 1

    If you want to speed up your kids, unplug the router until all the laundry is folded.

    I've seen several parents just change the wifi password and let them know what chores will be required of them to learn the new one.

  38. Wait a minute by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    I have to take the clothes out of the laundry machine and put them into the sorting/folding robot? Shouldn't I just put dirty clothes into the laundry machine and receive sorted/folded clean clothes as the output? Shouldn't I be able to throw a pair of socks into the laundry machine and have it clean it efficiently and hand me back a pair of clean socks a few minutes later? Why do I need to throw a big pile of stuff into a laundry machine?

    The need to conserve water, detergent, power etc., forces me to own a lot of clothing so I have something to wear while my dirty laundry piles up until I have a full wash load. If the machine could launder clothes as they are fed in, I would only need two sets of clothes- one to wear and one to process through the laundry. I might even drop to one set of clothing and pajamas if I could launder every night. Such a machine could create a huge change in the way people view clothing ownership/shopping.

    There's no need to sort clothes if all you're washing is underwear(1), socks(2), shirt(1), and pants(1).

    1. Re:Wait a minute by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      I might even drop to one set of clothing and pajamas if I could launder every night. Such a machine could create a huge change in the way people view clothing ownership/shopping.

      You don't have a lot of contact with women, do you...

    2. Re:Wait a minute by mark_reh · · Score: 1

      Sadly, no.

  39. Re:Anyone considered buying wrinkle resistant clot by Cederic · · Score: 1

    Well, I pay my cleaner £16/week but I bought a £300 Dyson for her to use.

    Without the Dyson I suspect the same level of care and attention to my carpets would cost me £200/week from her and still not get results quite as good.

    I could pay her to do the laundry too (and did when my washing machine broke) but it's cheaper to buy a washing machine and do my own. Adding the automatic folder would be needed to really match the service she provides but it'd need to cost around £600 and last for less than four years before she became a cheaper option.

    Home automation, it's wonderful.

  40. Commercial, production laundry operations by erikscott · · Score: 1

    Same thoughts here - just take a moment and enjoy it at home, but... I used to work for a company that made apparel. There is a plant in the deep south with washing machines the size of dumpsters - they wash 288 jeans at a time. Over 10,000 pieces are washed, dried, pressed, and folded a day. People stand there and manually turn them wrong-side-out and then, after laundry, turn them back again. They have to check the pockets to make sure there isn't any pumice left in them from "Stone Washing" - the rocks will mess up an iron. Extremely low-tech, labor intensive. Most of it is done in Mexico, except during droughts when it's hard to get enough water there (I'm not making this up), so they keep the operation in Alabama running all the time and they just add a couple of shifts during dry weather. A jeans-folding robot would need to come in pretty cheap so its Net Present Value would be less than minimum wage. Wild guess, maybe around $10K would be the breakeven point.

    Come to think of it, with Alabama in record drought right now, I wonder if that laundry is running? :-)