Trump Admits 'Some Connectivity' Between Climate Change and Human Activity (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: President-elect Donald Trump conceded Tuesday there is "some connectivity" between human activity and climate change and wavered on whether he would pull the United States out of international accords aimed at combating the phenomenon, which scientists overwhelmingly agree is caused by human activity. The statements could mark a softening in Trump's position on U.S. involvement in efforts to fight climate change, although he did not commit to specific action in any direction. During the campaign, he vowed to "cancel" the U.S.'s participation in the Paris climate agreement, stop all U.S. payments to UN programs aimed at fighting climate change and continued to cast serious doubt on the role man-made carbon dioxide emissions played in the planet's warming and associated impacts. "I think there is some connectivity. Some, something. It depends on how much," Trump said Tuesday in a meeting with New York Times reporters, columnists and editors. He has previously called climate change a "hoax" invented by the Chinese. Asked if he would withdraw the U.S. from international climate change agreements, Trump said he is "looking at it very closely," according to Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Mike Grynbaum, who were live-tweeting the meeting. He added that he has "an open mind to it," despite explicitly promising to withdraw from at least one climate accord on the campaign trail. The President-elect on the campaign trail repeatedly vowed to slash environmental protection regulations burdening U.S. businesses and said that beyond the consequences to the planet, he is particularly mindful of the economic impact of combating climate change. He said he is considering "how much it will cost our companies" and the effect on American competitiveness in the global market, according to a tweet from Grynbaum.
All that CO2 and warm breath is warming up the atmosphere!
He's getting very good at emulating a pancake.
Running for President and being President are two entirely different things.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Trump is the best thing to happen to the socialist agenda. He is going to run up a massive deficit. How soon before the conservatives try to disparage him? It will be comedic gold. This is the guy they said is unafraid to speak the truth and can't be bought. Cause no matter what you believe if you say exactly what u think you're good .. right? I mean, nobody despicable in history ever said what they really think?
... reality is doing him in, as it does all political outsiders.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
There's a fact about Trump that's growing ever more apparent: his mouth is nearly useless. Only his actions matter (and they've yet to unfold).
Forrest Trump is like a box of chocolates: you don't know what you are getting until you bite into one ... or one bites into you.
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Not even technically in office yet and he's already walking back those wild campaign promises that got him in to office.
Oh dear.
Keep up the good work.
If Trump doesn't admit its real then someone else has to pay for it, which is a smart business move. And its going to be the poor people who suffer the most, not the rich, so why should he care? Trump is not an idiot, hes just good at playing one when it makes business sense.
How do you walk back something you've given different answers for? He waffled heavily on the campaign trail also. He is consistently inconsistent. We shouldn't be surprised.
Table-ized A.I.
Damn! And me here without my heart medicine handy....
Think of all the stereotypes you can think about with a politician.
Lying, manipulative, weasil-tactics, duplicitous, and so on.
Trump is pretty much all those things to a level we're unfamiliar with in the modern era. People tend to vastly overestimate how badly corrupted our system has become in the recent modern era, when seeing isolated incidents of outrageous things, such as lies before congress, violence, or right being ignored.
The thing is, if you've ever read any newspapers from the 1800s, or from earlier eras from most places, politics have always been truly horrible, to a much greater degree than we're used to. History is replete with millions of deaths for the sake of the worst kinds of political stupidity, Even the mythical ideals, such as Camelot, are filled with absurdly horrible acts as commonplace, when you read the versions not cleaned up for modern standards.
The return to commonplace racism, outright lying and fiercely punishing those who call you out on lies, and playing of all sides with open disdain is what we seem to be seeing here. A return to the 'good old days', well before the 1950s.
So yeah, if Trump find he can use the specter of global warming to push some part of his agenda, a nugget to throw to get someone in line, he'll play that card.
He just said whatever he thought would win him the election.
What he said has pretty much no attachment to what he will do.
He's a fast learner at becoming a typical lying establishment politician, after having been briefed on the actual facts of the nation and the world.
Of course the role dictates what you have to do in it, anyway. It's all part of the machine.
Enjoy the ride, suckers.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
"When I use a word," Mr. Trump said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said The New York Times, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Mr. Trump, "which is to be master—that's all."
I don't know what to think nor even if it's worth thinking about any more. Governance by RNG. Ignoring for a moment all those shadowy Republican puppet-masters that are a hell of a lot cleverer and more tenacious than Trump... this could actually be an improvement of sorts?
I mean, this is not actually flip-flopping any more. The term is simply not strong enough. What we have here is a flesh and blood expert system running some crude, buggy-as-shit genetic optimizing algorithm... and it's shortly going to be POTUS.
Huh.
Trump has nasal drips of factoids. Drip-drip-drip.
will he admit hyundai using subliminal sounds on their vehicles to promote sexual agression?
On the one hand, it looks like Trump lied to a bunch of scared and vulnerable people to get elected (under the disguise of "not being another politician" and "not just being all talk"). . . On the other hand, a lot of his promises ranged from authoritarian to completely incoherent (Bring back jobs by attacking free trade when automation is the real job killer at this point? Bring back coal by attacking green technologies when natural gas is the true coal killer?).
Either way, the guy is a real douche in my book. . .
Sdelat' Ameriku velikoy Snova!
Ol' Buzz Windrip makes Romney look like an amateur. Between not prosecuting Hillary for some imagined crime and now this, I wonder if the American Nazi Party^W^W^WAlt Right likes what they really got
When Fascism comes to America it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible
You did this to us. Just remember that. You've dropped us all in the shit with your deluded support of a random ranting egocentric dipstick.
"Human Activity" hey? The Chinese are human, right? And creating a hoax is an activity.
I expect every American to preface their post with "WARNING: I VOTED FOR TRUMP" or "WARNING: I DID NOT VOTE" if applicable so they can be suitably ignored as idiots.
The fact is that China has lured manufacturing to itself by ignoring its own environmental and laws. The Western nations that passed harsh environmental laws simply exported their pollution to China.
Some just wanted job protection, and others wanted to stick it to the establishment. Climate change skepticism was hardly on anyone's minds on the right. They're probably still euphoric from seeing the left break down in tears on election night, and will forgive broken promises for now.
You know what's funny? Seems like if you want to get things done, you need a Democrat to start wars, and a Republican to protect the environment. That way, the left largely stays silent as countries get attacked, and the right largely stays silent as regulations are imposed.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Right from the very beginning, Trump struck me as an individual who cared for nothing but himself and how much money he had, having no regard for the actual *people* of the United States, and looking only at their economic worth. Some things are, in fact, more important than money, and I am discouraged that Mr. Trump does not seem able to realize that. While this waffling on his previous stance on climate change is probably going to seem like welcome news for environmentalists, his motivation is still completely wrong, and I cannot bring myself to hold out a lot of optimism that he will actually change his plans or actions.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I had really hoped he just kidding when he said he would "Lock Her Up". America just is not that kind of country. So now he walks that promise back and says they are really nice people. I figure we have three choices in guessing his reasons. 1. He wants to be a real president and bring us together in the manner that Ford pardoned Nixon. 2. He is clever in holding off promoting this idea till Obama is out of office and can no longer pardon her. 3. He is a lying sack o' sheet pol like the ones who came before.
Is Trump going to tell Pence that there is "some connectivity"?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
... who voted him in because globalism is un-American.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Scott Adams predicted this in May.
Predicted that Trumps real position on climate change was actually "I don't know because I haven't looked into it," and that once he did, if he decided it was a problem, he'd be the only person who could convince the Republican base that it was a problem and that something needed to be done. That no Democrat ever could, but Trump could carry the Republicans right along because they see him as one of them, and very credible.
Mr. Adams is a very observant wingnut.
He just said whatever he thought would win him the election.
What he said has pretty much no attachment to what he will do.
He's a fast learner at becoming a typical lying establishment politician, after having been briefed on the actual facts of the nation and the world.
Of course the role dictates what you have to do in it, anyway. It's all part of the machine.
Enjoy the ride, suckers.
You realize he isn't president yet, and hasn't actually done anything yet - yes?
What you said amounts to wild-ass speculation from a sore loser.
If you weren't so focused on "winning all the time every time using every means possible" you might consider contributing.
You know - with political discourse and debate? Maybe with a little insight and logic thrown in?
minus the ACA that was keeping my type-1 diabetic friend alive. Thanks America.
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...after that well-known radical leftist Margaret Thatcher addressed the issue!
There seems to be great deal of confusion around two separate issues.
1. What if anything is modeled to occur going forward.
2. Knowing that what if anything would I care to do about it.
What seems to have happened in popular press people have been spewing garbage conflating the two issues making political statements and incorrectly attributing #2 objections to #1.
It is perfectly rational to get on board with consensus positions on sea level rise and other predictions yet still make a political calculation you don't give a fuck enough to act or even welcome changes. There will clearly be some winners and numerous cases where those who create problems won't be the ones drawing short sticks.
I get the impression many politicians intentionally feign ignorance to avoid being seen as dipshits. If you deny #1 you create license for yourself to ignore #2.
Did anyone expect any different?
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Were he to deny it, he would've been denounced as a moron too uneducated to understand the problem — because a Ph.D. is required to grasp it.
Why is his admission carrying more weight, than his denial would have?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
*singing* We're going to make it after allllllll
Just because we might get out of the fire and back into the frying pan, that doesn't make it a good place to be.
Also, let's be clear what Trump actually said here. "Some connectivity." It's not like he's suddenly become an environmentalist.
I can just hear him tomorrow if he got too much push-back from conservatives: "Uh... yeah... I said 'some connectivity.' Not a lot. Like a phone -- when you got 'some connectivity' you might have one bar if you're out in the woods. Well, not on my phone, because my phone's awesome and I'm rich. But some people get one bar. That's 'some connectivity,' which is all there is with the climate change. Obama and ISIS, on the other hand -- there's FIVE bars of connectivity there."
So today the airwaves are flooded with stories about Trump "backtracking" on promisss from reporters quoting "hearsay" from a paper that loathes Donald Trump and actively supported his opposition.
So this story must automatically be true?
Because the sources are reputable?
Or is the truth that "fake news" is the news those idiots on the other side of my viewpoint believe?
Only fucking morons and liberal dipshits thought he was being literal. The rest of us comprehend how showmanship and political hyperbole work.
This is why you lost. :(
Obama was a retarded leftist until he started getting a daily intelligence briefing and realized the world is a really shitty place, and then went full Clinton and started sending solider and bombers (and drones) all over the middle east and Africa.
Instead of scratching our heads and trying to interpret/understand everything he says as if he were sane, can we please instead have a sane person?
Yes, yes, 11th dimensional chess and all that. The grandmaster Trump has outplayed all those dumb liberals.
Seriously buddy. There's a word for someone who says something, then does another.
Liar.
Just wait for him to speak to a gay audience. He'll say he likes some butt stuff. Not too deep.
If she didn't do anything wrong, then why does Obama need to pardon her? The million dollar question that nobody has been asking because it's an inconvenient truth.
There's an argument that it "is the only way" to prevent years of Stalinist show trials by the Republicans, given their new-found love for all things Russian. However it seems unlikely that Obama will pardon her, for the obvious reason that she hasn't done anything sufficiently wrong to attract criminal liability. Psssst ... you know that was just election banter, right?
But now on to important matters: How do I collect my $1,000,000?
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I agree that a certain amount of oscillation is normal, but I think there are cases when the oscillations go so far as to destroy the pendulum. I'm prefer to use an example from the financial markets, however. Easier to follow in some ways.
The lack of any transaction charges in the stock market has created a kind of friction-free money machine. Flash Boys is a good introduction. The trading has no relationship to anything except the perception that the price of the shares will increase before they are sold, even if the time interval of holding the shares is measured in seconds or microseconds. Perhaps the main point of the book is how some cunning bastards rigged the game by jumping between the bids, so they could buy faster than the higher bidder could, and then turn around and sell the same shares to the higher bidder while pocketing most of the difference. The risk is that you can't sell at a higher price, but they already had the higher price in the bag because they could move faster. Worth billions, but... This sort of thing can only be done by computers, and so the engine of the stock market spins faster and faster, with the oscillations always threatening to go out of control. Nearly happened in 2007. The rational response would have been to prevent it from happening again, but obviously they didn't. Maybe the engine is accelerating out of control again on the rumors? ("Buy on rumor, sell on the news.") At some point a sufficiently low-friction engine under continual acceleration has to destroy itself.
Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT arguing against change. I just prefer evolutionary change rather than revolution. There is no guarantee on the outcome in either case, though the long-term average is for things to get better. The problem is that we always live on the short term, and lots of people die in any revolution worthy of the label. At least in the case of evolution you can usually wait for the losers to die off peacefully. China in Ten Words is an interesting discussion of the revolutionary mentality in China...
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Quote: "he is particularly mindful of the economic impact of combating climate change."
Enlightenment: Should I buy a gadget built in US that is more expensive, in the production is more contaminant to the planet and has no warranty in my country; or a cheaper or equally priced, planet-caring with 2-year warranty one?
Sincerely, if Trump worries about the economic impact of selling more expensive, unsafe and contaminant products he ain't showing it at all...
I mean, what fun is in destroying the U.S. if the pay isn't right? Of course he needs to put up a display of wavering on everything or the cash will not come flowing in.
He made his money in property and has a lot of nominal $ in low lying areas.
Maybe I'm too early calling this... But man, it's nice to read this thread!
The top comments are actually interesting and funny. There's differing opinions without the "them/us" (rep/pub) shaming or swearing.
That's more like the slashdot I like to read.
Please keep this up ;)
Here's an interesting idea... Maybe, just maybe, President-elect Trump is not the raving, selfish, hate-filled, idiot the media and his opponents have painted him as. Maybe he's actually a sane and intelligent individual with good intentions, who might not be an expert in all areas of everything (nobody is), but who does have lots of experience picking and listening to experts in their respective fields.
Maybe he isn't "flip-flopping", but just realizing that a man as persuasive as him might be able to turn some of the far-right around on issues like climate change and LGBT rights. In order to persuade someone to agree with you, you have to first convince them that you actually kind of agree with them. Perhaps Trump isn't as stupid as people think, and he actually knows this.
Perhaps he isn't just saying "what's in it for me?", and he actually feels some degree of patriotism (shocking, I know, that the president of the United States might actually like this country).
Maybe I'm being naive, but I honestly don't feel like Donald Trump is a dirty, lying, crook who's manipulating the American people for himself. I just don't get that impression of him, and I've been signaled out before for my keen ability to spot a lie. If you disagree, that's fine, but that doesn't make you smarter than anyone else. It doesn't make you better than anyone else. It doesn't mean you're 'above all the sheeple'. It just means you have a different opinion.
One thing that human beings will never get over is their need to be right. If they believe Trump is a bad guy, no amount of evidence to the contrary will ever convince them. They have to feel superior, every single good thing Trump does must be part of some evil master plan of his. So go ahead and downvote me, because that's easier than admitting you could possibly have misjudged the man based on a flood of lies and misinformation spread by people who thought he was "literally Hitler".
Trump used the word 'connectivity'! Ok, it's maybe a little out of place but where did he get those long words?
Well, for a first cut it's not bad. A bit surrealistic, but hey.
I was always impressed by the captcha generator, which seemed to intuit the gist the post I was going to write.
Is this ./AI next gen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Talk about flip-flopping...
I don't see this as a backwards retreat on climate change. But rather a common sense addition that human's have a effect. Just look at the rotting garbage all over the world as just on example. Many won't remember the Indian crying commercial in the 70's trying to get human's to clean up mother Earth. I suppose that's racists today. No Trump's problem with it, is how these nations have created such a dire straights scenario in order to advance a certain agenda, that benefits obvious ventures of green initiatives. I think we all want Trump to take a more realistic approach to Earth and not place all the burden of green investment and sacrifice on America. After all China is the biggest issue pertaining to C02 emission problems, and yet China is at a snails pace creating cleaner air.
English is not my native language, but isn't this wrong? Shouldn't it be 'connection' instead of 'connectivity'?
The left needs to wake up and realize that Trump is trying to do a good job, and he's listening to people that don't agree with him politically, and he's considering the data. He is willing to change his positions based on that data.
This is a million times better than the extreme far-left demagoguery that we have been living under for the past 8 years. I think we are in for a lot of improvement in this country. He has shown that the parties cannot push him around, and he has an overwhelming popular mandate. He already has an approval rating over 50% and he has not even taken office yet.
These are exciting times - a non-politician in the white house. I can't wait to see what it will bring!
Just tell him that Hillary and Bernie think climate change is a made up hoax from the 1%. Given how the left instantaneously changed their views on TPP when Trump opposed it, I'm sure this will work.
Hell as a lefty I'm livid. Crime is crime no matter who commits it. And just because Trump doesn't want to push the issue doesn't mean we should let a criminal get away scot free.
"I vow to make sweeping changes!!" shouts the campaigning politician.
Then they get into office, see all the interconnections between all the political, commercial, and social structures, both the good and bad ones, and realises that you can't simply just reach in there and yank out whatever pieces you don't like without tearing everything to varying degrees. So the aggressive stance softens, and the politician backtracks, while commencing to study the whole tangled mess to see what bits he can safely nudge at least a little bit in his desired direction without breaking anything else in the process. This happens over and over again for all politicians at all levels of government, from the President of the local PTA on up to the President of the USA.
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Later in the day he said the opposite. Is he suffering from dementia? Is he in so far over his head he can't figure out any consistency? Is he just a lying sack of shit willing to say anything to please whomever he is talking to at that second? The only thing we can be sure about is that he has no idea what he is doing.
Yea because lying to you over and over and over for the last few years have taught you nothing.
...all markets will be when a large portion of the population is killed off as a result of starvation, cancer due to depletion of the ozone layer, dehydration and other results of man-made climate change! Kill off food sources will make the remaining food more valuable and lucrative. Increased cancer and other diseases will make demand for palliative treatments go up. Yes, he's really thinking about business needs as well...
"which scientists overwhelmingly agree is caused by human activity"
So Sorry, there are a large number of scientists that do not simply go with what they are told by the media. And as "Climate Gate" showed, those who will make the most money from global warming schemes and carbon credits are happy to fake or change data.
As far as Donald Trump goes, one has to wonder, judging by his appearance after his meeting with Obama what was said. Experts in body language have all agreed he showed a high degree of stress. I suspect EITHER he was not that serious about some of his campaign promises to begin with OR he was threatened with becoming another assassinated president if he did not back off on many of his campaign promises. So now we see the results. Those who are big in money and power from our country's present socialist policies and trends who will do anything to stop change.
What will happen? God certainly knows, but time will tell.
Can't always have everyone agreeing with the crowd. Sometimes a dissenting voice on a subject can stimulate thought. At least that used to be what this country was about. And it used to be that way on Slashdot as well. But I find, when I put in a dissenting voice on this or a couple of other topics on Slashdot, my comments seem to quickly disappear. Guess we can't have someone saying something to make others think.
So goodbye. Slashdot has changed from a technical forum to a socialist electronic rag. And I am a techie with an attitude. If I come back, it will probably be for a laugh.
Odd that we have the so call "tech community" on here but they didn't bother to get the full transcript before going off half cocked about what a journalist interpreted as meaning something other than those with the 5th grade reading comprehension would think it means. After reading the full transcript I find it odd that someone would say he was backing down on his stance. Seems more like the liberal agenda of dividing Trump and those that voted for him. Does every ones recall of history go back 1 week now? This is the same NYTimes that was colluding with Clinton's campaign to give her good press and Trump bad press. So are well all suppose to ignore how they were exposed now???
I find it funny how many claim to be "free thinking" yet they accept this article as proof positive without researching anything. Coddle douche bags that are "in the know"!
Trump never CONCEDED any such thing. If you run west then stop suddenly then you are contributing to slowing down the spin of the earth... but it's insignificant.
Of course mankind contributes to global warming, but there is no way we alone are responsible for it, and I'm not going to pay any form of carbon tax.
This is just the mainstream press playing its usual dishonest gotcha game.
Pretty much everybody, including nearly every so-called denier says humans have SOME influence (i.e. there's come "connectivity" there). That's NEVER been the argument, nor is it in conflict with his earlier comments about the global warming hysteria helping the effort to de-industrialize America and ship jobs to China. the argument has ALWAYS been about the severity of man's effects, the predicted amount of change and dangers thereof, and the relative merits of redistributing wealth globally and de-industrializing the west to avert an imagined problem that might be far better dealt with by mitigation of effects. In other words: is it worth it to throw millions of middle class Americans out of their jobs so that it MIGHT be 0.1 degree cooler in a hundred years, and is it really better and more cost-effective to deprive millions (billions?) of people NOW of a better life to avoid possible consequences a century from now that might easily be solved with a few dikes and some pumping stations?
People need to stop playing the gotcha game on ALL sides. REAL journalists should report ACCURATELY on ALL that a person says IN CONTEXT rather than taking fragments out of context to create spectacular click-bait headlines.
I don't disagree with climate models because of faith. I disagree with them because they've been shown to be wrong.
If climate models, as a whole, were unbiased, you'd expect about half of them to underpredict the observed amount of warming, and the other half to overpredict the observed amount of warming.
But that's not the kind of wrong they've been shown to be. They all overpredict, as this plot of 73 different climate models, run over a 45-year timespan, shows: http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp...
If this isn't long enough to convince you that the models are wrong, how long of a run would it take? 55 years? 70 years?
This is really the only scientific way to evaluate the validity of climate models. The models have performed with such bias, that it's fair to call anyone who still has faith in them a science denier.
[Contrast the bias of the climate models with hurricane track models which, collectively, do a good job. About half the models predict a track that's leftward of the observed track, while the other half predict a track that's rightward of the observed track: http://images.huffingtonpost.c... ]
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Do you feel that current Christian evangelism efforts are more strident than past efforts?
Would you acknowledge that the current efforts are failing?
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
It means shutting down coal plants and building solar/wind/nuclear plants. Surely this counts as "economic activity".
Economic activity does not necessarily leave society better off. Paying people to dig holes, and paying still more people to fill the holes back in, is "economic activity."
When the unsubsidized cost-per-kilowatt hour of energy source X becomes competitive, you'll find no greater supporter of X than me. But facts on the ground don't yet look good for solar. (And as a big Elon Musk fan, it pains me to post that link.)
I used to fear global warming a lot. But that was before the climate models were shown to be wrong.
If climate models, as a whole, were unbiased, you'd expect about half of them to underpredict the observed amount of warming, and the other half to overpredict the observed amount of warming.
But that's not the kind of wrong they've been shown to be. They all overpredict, as this plot of 73 different climate models, run over a 45-year timespan, shows: http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp...
If this isn't long enough to convince you that the models are wrong, how long of a run would it take? 55 years? 70 years?
This is really the only scientific way to evaluate the validity of climate models. The models have performed with such bias, that it's fair to call anyone who still has faith in them a science denier.
[Contrast the bias of the climate models with hurricane track models which, collectively, do a good job. About half the models predict a track that's leftward of the observed track, while the other half predict a track that's rightward of the observed track: http://images.huffingtonpost.c... ]
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
He is a veritable Zelig of American Politics.
Cows leaving the farm where some were sold for meat to go live with the Butcher.
I wonder how fast they realize what is going on before they want to return to being milked.
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It would appear that he never bothered to learn anything while he was running. Now that he has to actually learn the facts about all these issues, I guess we can expect a lot of his plans to change :-).
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As someone else already said, he's inherently a centrist, or non-aligned. His only god is himself. He appeal to the populist vote only to win. Now he's probably scratching his head on what to do about the recount. He has to balance his personal centrist agenda with that of the right-wing party that he's found himself in. I predict that he will come out stronger after the recount. He has called it a scam, but just wait until he "flip flops" and calls it "genius" and proof of his righteous victory.