Slashdot Mirror
UK Plans To Censor Online Videos Of 'Non-Conventional' Sex Acts (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson, writing for BetaNews: The UK government's relationship with the web is something of a checkered one. Keen to pander to the fear of concerned hand-wringers, we've seen torrent sites blocked and there are plans afoot to censor porn sites that do not implement 'effective' age checks. Now there is a chance that UK web users will be denied access to websites that portray "non-conventional sexual acts" in the latest act of censorship by the government. A bill currently being considered would apply the same restrictions to online pornography that currently apply offline. In what appears to be yet another example of the government failing to understand quite how the internet works -- and trying to bend offline laws to apply to online situations -- the plan is to block websites that display content that would not normally receive a classification if released on DVD.
Fist post
The way things are going I'll be depending on the local newsagent for my porn needs.
to their will doesn't make it so. I'm really getting tired of liberals being dismissive of the power and organizational skills that regressives (I refuse to call them "Conservative", they're not. Spade a Spade).
Shit like this is how we got Brexit & Trump. Just keep looking down on them and don't make any attempt to understand why they do what they do. They'll continue to route around you and take over via the tyranny of the minority.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
A young girl marries an older Greek sailor. On her wedding day, her mother warns her, "These Greek sailors can be pretty strange, if he suggests anything out-of-the-ordinary in the bedroom, you tell him No Way!". Sure enough, after about a month of marriage, one night, he suggests something different, and like a good girl, she shuts him down. He says "But darling, don't you want to have children?".
Exactly. It is very foolish to say the "government doesn't know the Internet". They know. They aren't stupid. And yes, you can censor the Internet and also stop piracy which is another thing that Slashbots claim you "can't do". It just depends on how much effort they want to put into it.
Also if you voted brexit, you gave these clowns a ton more power. Way to go.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
That is to say, would "non-conventional sex acts" include intercourse with a pig, as allegedly committed by the former and disgraced Prime Minister?
Finding God in a Dog
I love the UK, but I think the people of Britain seriously need to reign-in their government. Between the Orwellian surveillance laws and increasingly anachronistic censorship laws ... it's no wonder the public was thinking "government accountability" during the Brexit referendum. They are probably getting tired of this shit and don't want government with longer leash. Kind to think of it, we've been getting a wee bit cross with government over-reach on this side of the pond too.
Look how much effort China puts into censoring the internet. Are they willing to go to those lengths? And 'subversive' information still gets through pretty easily, for anyone that wants it enough.
That said, basic restrictions can discourage casual browsers, average people that aren't invested enough to try to circumvent the blocks. Then again, that's almost never the group that caused the problem they're trying to fix.
Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
Exactly. It is very foolish to say the "government doesn't know the Internet". They know. They aren't stupid.
The government (any government) consists of a mix of people, some of who are reasonably smart, and some who really are quite stupid. Sometimes the stupid ones have enough clout to screw it up for those in the government who understand things better. While a country might be a democracy, the governments themselves seldom are.
The House of Lords is a good example. Many of the people there aren't there because of merits. And the House of Commons - well, who gets appointed to which committee isn't all about picking the smartest people for the job.
Unless it's on high seas of course. Nobody's gay when it's underway.
Why is this a bad thing? It would be better if they banned porn entirely just like the alliance of feminists and religious organizations from Christians to Muslims want it.
It objectifies women which is bad, it feeds into rape culture which is bad, it is immoral and unethical for the aforementioned reasons and since it is immoral and unethical then that means it is bad even by religious standards.
Well, the opinions of conservatives is irrelevant, the most important opinion is the feminist one even if it's the same thing and that's why porn needs to be banned.
If not banned, at the very least all porn should be gay porn and straight cis binary porn should be banned.
You are not describing conservatism but social marxism. You are describing the very mechanism by which the modern day, neoliberal left has defeated itself.
Since many right-wing sectors claim that what gays do is "unnatural", does this mean that gay porn will be banned as well?
Open Source Network Inventory for the masses! Kuwaiba
Really? Try accessing the Internet in China you dumb fuck. You don't even know what real censorship is.
The people who propose this type of leglisation arent the House of Lords. They are the people working for them. They "know the Internet" just fine.
I liked that scene with Stephen Fry. Coming soon to real life I guess.
Twinstiq, game news
While I agree with you and government trying to control, this has nothing to do with Trump or Brexit. Liberals are breaking new records in fascism these days, both sides are nothing but a comedy show.
Trump was the only choice to eliminate Hillary ( who much like Trump is hated by millions) and many British don't want to bow down to foreign control. People have different reasons and you can't be so American about picking a team and blindly agreeing with everything they do.
I think what you mean to say is that under the current system we cannot censor the Internet.
However, if enough effort were brought to bear, it absolutely could happen. Think of it as a redesigned Internet where all of the current protocols don't work. It is built from the ground up to be censored first. Technically, it could happen (it very likely won't, but that doesn't mean it is impossible).
So then you ask "where are we now and how far away are we from this hypothetical CensorNet?" make your benchmark. Ask the question again in another couple of years, make your benchmark. Which way is the Internet headed? Open and free or closed and censored? You tell me.
To say that something is impossible is just boxing yourself in to a particular way. Yeah, it is the way things work currently, but that doesn't mean things can't change.
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
yet there are many people who get around it. do a google search
01100100 01110101 01101101 01100010 01100001 01110011 01110011
In what appears to be yet another example of the government failing to understand quite how the internet works
The UK government is failing to understand how human mind works. My DVD copy of the movie Priest claims to be unrated. UK should really consider censoring all kinds of thing related to the unrated priests.
You can't 100% censor anything, but you can get pretty darned close if you put your mind to it. If, say, software piracy carried the death penalty and the UK government was given all of the technical tools available to to chase down software pirates, you'd better believe that causal piracy would drop a lot closer to zero than it is right now. Then the only remaining question is how much people are willing to fight back to get the law repealed, or if they'll just say, "Meh, it's not worth making an issue of."
In that sense, there's nothing special about the Internet. It just happens that in most modern countries, they haven't tried all that hard and the stakes have been pretty low.
An interesting anagram of "BANACH TARSKI" is "BANACH TARSKI BANACH TARSKI"
Piracy and porn were existing well before the internet (bootlegs, cloning audio cassettes, copying VHS..).
Even assuming you can remove all the piracy and porn on the internet you will not prevent these two things from happening:
Would it make piracy more difficult? sure
Would it absolutely prevent it? not even a chance.
Would it cut piracy by 80%? maybe immediately afterwards but I'm not so sure in the long run.
Even if you magically eliminate the entire internet without a huge impact on business, people will simply move to the "old methods" of exchanging hard drives full of pirated movies and paper magazines full of naked girls.
Draconian laws don't work either: downloading a movie is already on track to become a more serious crime than murder and yet people are not stopping.
It's not that the government doesn't know how the internet works(the know perfectly how it works) the problem for them is to remove it from people while not impacting businesses.
On the other hand if the REAL objective is censorship and mass control then I would say that they are perfectly on track to become a dictatorship soon.
Anyone with a bit of clue on what's happening would bet on this second objective.
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
yeah, "regressives" sounds about right. when i read the summary, i was thinking "are we already back in the 60ies again". didn't we call them "reactionaries" back then?
considering the number of people who can't access it anymore, censorship is the correct word
There is a shock video of a guy on a swing with another guy going ankle deep in his rear as he swings. Then you see that the ankle is missing a foot. Then the super mario song plays as they do their thing.... Is that what they want to block? Does weird porn pass the uncanny valley at some point and become art? I don't see anyone getting sexually aroused by extremely odd things, but I don't see the need to ban any of it regardless.
How are you going to "fight back"? The government won't accept a referendum and if you take it to the streets, the militarized police forces will make short work of you.
But think of the contractors, the hardware, software the the over time and the upgrades. The enforcement and catching of people who try the wrong site, ip.
The NGO's, SJW, foundations, cults, faiths and public private partnerships that get to alter an entire nations web usage and then add their own ideas or faith to banned sites.
Once this system is in place wait for an ever expanding list of topics. News, faith, politics, history, blasphemy will all slowly get added with ever more funding for upkeep and database integrity.
Censorship as a growth industry.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I'll give $10 to the first site that posts a video of a gangbang at a convention. That would be some "conventional" sex, right?
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
Think of it as a redesigned Internet where all of the current protocols don't work. It is built from the ground up to be censored first.
We already have that and it's called television.
Actually, I think they're a Spode, not a Spade.
Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
What ever happened to the proposed xxx domain? You have material of a sexual content posted for public consumption, move to the xxx domain name so that it may be filtered at the browser level (parent blocks) so governments don't have to spend to enforce the law and protect its people. You have content that is sexual in nature and not on a xxx domain, your blocked at the gateway level, fined / sanctioned, whatever until you comply. I'm positive the industries that produce / distribute sexual content would be willing to move there biz to a xxx domain if they knew it was so that it could filtered by non consumers of their products.
porn is thge least of my concerns going to london *knife emoji*
Are they trying to censor aural sex now?
Well then, shave all the porn stars, we're going smooth and sleek!
No need for that - just check an unfiltered mailbox, and you'll realize that the Chinese aren't filtered all that much.
Stop the lies, we all know it has nothing to with with 'copying or downloading' content, nor pornography nor the children, all 100% about political censorship and putting corporate propaganda back on central stage and independent media silenced or in prison. You can bet, whoops censored you by accident at election time will be the norm and just to fuck with everyone further, absolutely no court required to censor but going to court is required to clear that censorship and you can guaranteed when it comes to booking that court, hmm, let me see, there have been thousands of claims to clear censorship, you should be able to access the court in about eighteen months time. Fucking liars, we know, the bullshit ain't going work.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Where stuffy British politicians argue over what is 'non-conventional' without blushing.
(If at first you don't succeed, do it different next time!)
For politicians and bureaucrats that means fucking outdoors or with the curtains open or with the lights on. There may be a ban on spectators and non-participants too.
China has no problem accessing me.
Got 2 tries to enter PORT 25 only 20 minutes after (my lazy) open postfix installation on Debian. Yesterday, from Huzhou's, Shanghai IP connect from unknown[61.177.121.178]. Believe its a company sending fake bills.
China is creepy about Tiananmen but London is about... Oh! happy 1 year anniversary of Popcorn Time !!
It'll be interesting to see how they classify ancient Roman history. Were their infamous sex acts conventional or non-conventional?
It can't be conservatives politicians that are against deviant sex practices. It's usually conservatives politicians that are found dead with plastic bags over their head trying to get off.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Seriously. What exactly is the problem? We're not talking about videos where a party is forced to participate, that's a different matter, we're talking about acts where everyone involved is happy to participate and get recorded. So what exactly is your problem with it? That you consider it "unnatural"? That it makes you sick to the stomach? Here's a novel idea that should solve your problems:
Don't watch the video.
It makes me sick to the stomach to think that such backwards idiots are breeding, but that doesn't mean I start demanding that you stop pumping out units every nine months. Maybe I should. That, unlike your demand, would indeed make the world a better place.
How exactly does that video affect you in any way whatsoever?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
That is a blatant lie. By the time the conservative politicians are found MI5 has removed the plastic bag (and the orange) and packed the body into an intesting pose inside a zip-up bag.
Slashdot: where don knuth is an idiot because he cant grasp the awesome power of php
That can't *POSSIBLY* not already be a porn title.
The government won't accept a referendum and if you take it to the streets,
The UK gov will. Doesn't even have to be legally binding, as long as it's the result they want they will grab a 51% majority and run with it calling it 'the will of the people'
Wanna buy a shirt?
https://www.redbubble.com/people/stealthfinger/shop?asc=u
The UK porn civil war starts in 2018. Give us back our Asian piss porn!.
Lie down and think of England.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Listen to all you sad faggots bleating about your lost porn. Porn is cancer pushed onto you by the Jew. You're better off without it.
Isn't defining what acceptable intercourse is the business of the church?
What of separation of state and church?
"we are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
I lived in China and never had a problem accessing anything that I wanted. The only people who think China has such heavy censorship seem to be the people who have never even been there.