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Ransomware Compromises San Francisco's Mass Transit System (cbslocal.com)

Buses and light rail cars make San Francisco's "Muni" fleet the seventh largest mass transit system in America. But yesterday its arrival-time screens just displayed the message "You Hacked, ALL Data Encrypted" -- and all the rides were free, according to a local CBS report shared by RAYinNYC: Inside sources say the system has been hacked for days. The San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency has officially confirmed the hack, but says it has not affected any service... The hack affects employees, as well. According to sources, SFMTA workers are not sure if they will get paid this week. Cyber attackers also hit Muni's email systems.
Though the article claims "The transit agency has no idea who is behind it, or what the hackers are demanding in return," Business Insider reports "The attack seems to be an example of ransomware, where a computer system is taken over and the users are locked out until a certain amount of money is sent to the attacker." In addition, they're reporting the attack "reportedly included an email address where Muni officials could ask for the key to unlock its systems."

One San Francisco local told CBS, "I think it is terrifying. I really do I think if they can start doing this here, we're not safe anywhere."

141 comments

  1. All the rides are not free. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Informative

    You still have to pay for buses.

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    1. Re:All the rides are not free. by sucko · · Score: 0

      worst hack evar.

    2. Re:All the rides are not free. by Catbeller · · Score: 2

      Rides were free yesterday.

    3. Re:All the rides are not free. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      You still have to pay for buses.

      Hey, don't get all "facty" on us, okay?

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    4. Re:All the rides are not free. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and all the rides were free, according to a local CBS report ...
      One San Francisco local told CBS, "I think it is terrifying. I really do I think if they can start doing this here, we're not safe anywhere."

      Some people, you just can't please them. Free rides for a day, and they are terrified!

  2. Ttt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There goes the neighborhood...

  3. Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its high time these russian attacks on the US gets stopped.
    The election, infrastructure, whats next?

    1. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I assume you're being sarcastic. In my mind, in a story like this, who perpetrated the hack is secondary at best. If we're going to trust important infrastructure to computer systems at some point we're going to have to figure out how to engineer them in a secure fashion. Take away the ability of _any_ enemy actor to assume control. Do we even know how to do that? If we know how to do that, why wasn't it done here? Why do we keep seeing similar stories all over the place? Perhaps the cost of creating such a system is not well understood? Or maybe it's understood, but those who are charged to create such systems are underqualified? I'd love to see discussion about that. Who created this system? How exactly (as far as information is available anyways) was it comprimised? What decisions caused the opportunity for comprimise, and why were those decisions made?

    2. Re:Enough! by sucko · · Score: 0

      first they came for the election, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't an election.
      then they came for the busses, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a bus.

      etc.

    3. Re: Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bus Lives Matter

    4. Re: Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best. Comment. Ever.

    5. Re:Enough! by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      This.

      It's a goddam computer!

      This crap about encrypting every file on board should not be allowed without two-level authentication.

      A fucking computer knows when commands are coming from a program or initiated by a keyboard.

      This is like burglary when there are no locks on the doors.

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    6. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You would have to be dumb like a rock to think Russia did this. What would the Kremlin gain from making people in San Francisco ride the public transit for free? And even if there was something to gain from it, why do you assume they would do it?

      No foreigner would write "You hacked", no matter how poor their English is. This is just a false-flag to whip up anger, and it works great when the target is people with tiny brains such as yourself.

    7. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No foreigner would write "You hacked", no matter how poor their English is.

      All your bus are belong to us

    8. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope. Won't help one bit. This type of worm was GIVEN authorization. Very likely the network was based on NTLM authorization, which has been well known (for about 19 years now) to be vulnerable.

      The best way is to stop using Windows.

    9. Re: Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ntlm hasnt been the default since the nt 4.0 days.

    10. Re:Enough! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Why would we think it is targeted? It could well be just a standard ransomware email that found a soft squishy prey in the form of MUNI.

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    11. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMO, the suspiciously and hilariously bad attempt at "Russian english" and the yandex.com adress, which no real hacker would use, dictates that it's not a real, live, Russian hacker at work.

    12. Re:Enough! by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Actually, this is the special corner of hell where people go to be punished for being stupid enough to rely on Microsoft.

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    13. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whats next?

      Your mom? Chucky doesn't need batteries...

    14. Re:Enough! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1
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    15. Re:Enough! by ZenShadow · · Score: 3

      And I had to run out of mod points NOW?!

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    16. Re:Enough! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Think of the clean up overtime.
      Hours, days, weeks, months of trying to find and remove every last trace of deep system alterations.
      If anyone asks about the clean up budget, mention its complex, has a foreign aspect thats under investigation, and has the US gov interested.
      Even "standard ransomware" might have some international code in it...

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    17. Re: Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're two moves behind; mate in three!

    18. Re:Enough! by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

      It's a goddam computer!

      Actually you're wrong. It's not the computer's fault. It's just doing what that thing between the keyboard and the chair told it to do. You need to train people how to not open email attachments. I'm frankly shocked idiots continue to fall for this shit.

      In my opinion, you actually have to be actively STUPID to find yourself a virus or ransomware. They don't just leap into your computer magically, people open malicious stuff, they're stupid. ACTIVELY stupid.

      This is like burglary when there are no locks on the doors.

      No it's not at all like that. It's leaving your door wide open and leaving the key for anyone to pick up. Educate end-users, period. Show them how the door and lock works.

    19. Re:Enough! by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      Unlike you, I'm a user advocate.

      It's our goddam computers. Our coworkers just want to do their job.

      We are on the expense side of they ledger and they make the money.

      Blaming users is useless as tits on a boar.

      How about we geniuses do our job and block this nonsense?

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    20. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take away the ability of _any_ enemy actor to assume control.

      We lost this ability around the time Windows XP came out. The OS and application makers became enemy actors. Operating Systems aren't under our control now. OS license keys are authenticated by the enemy actor (also we're fingerprinted and watermarked --I recall appleIDs were being attached to purchased music to track your piracy). You are not allowed to do things without root, and even WITH it on Windows, Linux, Android phones and MacOS.

      These enemy actors routinely up the ante --we have windows 10 shenanigans that are inescapable. Hardware radio spying in the past intel processor or two, so it's not just cellphones anymore. Finally, apps tend to enforce upgrade threadmills --Hangouts doesn't let me use my default binary. MSN messenger (then skype) routinely kick you until you upgrade to the version with the newest spying bling. I am glad e-mail itself doesn't go through this as much, though DKIM has made admin's lives harder.

      I routinely see browser makers causing endless headaches with heavy-handed decision-making, without leaving some alternative for "power users". Remember back when Firefox did NOT offend you with their about:config warning. Or Windows didn't remind you not to snoop on the system folder. People think this stuff is all protection, but I would rather people shot themselves in the foot than have to learn new ways of doing something because someone decides to remove old funtionality for business profits, nerf it, or just change default behaviors.

    21. Re:Enough! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      So an inside job?

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    22. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this is the special corner of hell where people go to be punished for being stupid enough to rely on public transit.

      ftfy

    23. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a bus, and when I spoke up it came out as HONK HOOOOOOOOONK and nobody got it.

      And do you know how hard it is to type with these wheels?!?!

    24. Re:Enough! by hawguy · · Score: 1

      It's a goddam computer!

      Actually you're wrong. It's not the computer's fault. It's just doing what that thing between the keyboard and the chair told it to do. You need to train people how to not open email attachments. I'm frankly shocked idiots continue to fall for this shit.

      Rather than making it more difficult for humans to use computers, why isn't the right thing to do: Train computers to stop being infected by someone opening attachments? Sandboxes have been around for years, and with hardware VM support, sandboxes can be entirely virtualized with little effect on performance.

      I send and receive documents and spreadsheets with external users all the time - are you saying that I should just go back to 1990 era plain text emails because computers can't be trusted?

    25. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fucking computer knows when commands are coming from a program or initiated by a keyboard.

      Correct. They are coming from a program, such as the shell (cmd, ps, bash) or file manager. The program may have received keyboard input within the last few million CPU cycles of sending those command to the OS.

    26. Re:Enough! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      if your computer is responsible for billing of the entire san fransisco transit system, yeah perhaps you should go back to 1990 era plain text emails.

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    27. Re: Enough! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      So, since around the last time these systems were updated then?

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    28. Re:Enough! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      The fact that you'd even consider Apple to be an alternative in the embedded space lets us know that you have no idea what you're talking about. There are half a dozen players here that would make sense, but a consumer hardware vendor shouldn't be anywhere near the list.

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    29. Re: Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NTLM is still the fallback when an error occurs.

      Microsoft labeled the fallback a "feature" and will not provide a way to block it.

      Assuming that it isn't present is bad security... as is the fallback.

    30. Re:Enough! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Interesting.

      I've administered a full house of server-based Apple shit.

      #AppleLivesMatter

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    31. Re:Enough! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Well, I know how to do it. I just can't get anyone to believe me, because much higher-paid corporations (Oracle, IBM, Microsoft) regularly fail at it even when paid millions.

    32. Re:Enough! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      OpenBSD is pretty good. Way fewer default security holes historically, as well as fewer fundamentally-insecure features that the design of the system's basic functionality relies on.

    33. Re:Enough! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      OpenBSD is useless as tits on a boar to people who don't know what the simple Sam Hill you're talking about.

      Windows or Mac.

      That's all consumers/workforce know anything about.

      Where's OpenBSD here?

      [graph of market share]

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    34. Re:Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we geniuses do our job and block this nonsense?

      We tried -the users complained that it was too difficult to use/took too much time/was stupid. Management decided that the risk vs reward trade off for security was not worth while. End result: hacked

  4. When do we switch to OpenBSD? by rbrander · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...I don't mean running everything on OpenBSD literally, though it's an idea. I mean, "when do we get really serious about security?" Again and again, we find major hacks that are not the result of super-hackers defeating valiant protective efforts, it's script kiddies defeating idiots who kind of deserved it. The Sony hack came with many stories of multiple executives demanding the network be multiply-holed so that they could watch their favourite videos or whatever, hit their favourite sites.

    I'm reading Andrew Ginter's book on SCADA security right now and reflecting on the insanity that there are SCADA systems, of all programming, being written on Windows, at all. There's one place the OpenBSD suggestion is quite serious. But even "OpenBSD" is just a buzzword unless you run your operations with security on your mind at all times. Schnier reduces this "mindfulness" argument to "read your logs", said it in three words.

    Most of this stuff is not actually that *hard*...it requires *diligence* and *discipline*, but not nuclear science.

    1. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Nkwe · · Score: 1

      With hope, after we start backing up our data. And by backup, I mean offline backups taken at regular intervals. And by offline, I mean backups that require human intervention to be overwritten, typically some sort of removable media that requires human interaction to overwrite.

      Pretty much any systems failure (including ransomware attacks) can be mitigated with proper backups.

    2. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

      This isn't about what OS you're using. All OSes are vulnerable given enough access. That's the key,,, access. Don't just lock the doors, eliminate them.

      It isn't reasonable to have all of these devices fully air-gapped from the public internet infrastructure, but it is very reasonable to have the entire system on its own VPN with NO other ports open. That combined with heavily limited access to the main servers that the devices connect to and NO installation of user tools like email clients on the servers stops these kinds of attacks in their tracks. And those measures can even be taken with Windoze.

    3. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by RhettLivingston · · Score: 4, Informative

      A really smart attacker gets in, installs a piece of code that automatically activates if it senses that it has become active after a restoration, and waits a couple of months before they do anything overt so that they are sure they've infected the backups.

      So, for a backup to really help, it has to carefully separate code and data so that you can wipe the system, install fresh code (not from a backup), and restore data only. Also, in this case, you don't want to lose even an hours worth of data, so the data needs to be a near live off-site backup. Few backups are this good and even fewer have actually tested the restoration process.

      These attacks need to be stopped before they happen, not recovered from.

    4. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It won't help in many cases, as I think you hit upon the real problem when talking about Sony execs. The weak point is *users*, not technology. We were to switch to OpenBSD tomorrow, we'd bring the idiot users along, who would happily allow a social engineering attack to compromise their system, or who insist on policies that, for convenience, ego, laziness, costs, whatever... fatally compromise their network. The DNC lost control of a Gmail account not through some masterful OS or network-level hack, but by using some simple social engineering to capture credentials, acquired through a spearphishing attack.

      I wouldn't be surprised if this attack originated internally from a contractor or employee that was compromised, and had jack-all to do with the system's end-user-facing security itself, and will probably reveal lax or non-existent security policies internally. No system is secure when the malware has proper authentication. We really have no information yet, so it's hard to say.

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    5. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      How about if we disallow this kind of hack?

      Hunert dollas to a donut it was a click on a link in an email.

      Computers can be predictive and examine code and "think" through the consequences.

      So, no massive encryption.

      And, any attempt to do so should be halted until we get a "double vote yes" from two phones via text message.

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    6. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Security must be built from the ground up, it's not something that can be tacked on as an afterthought.

    7. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 1

      ...or who insist on policies that, for convenience, ego, laziness, costs, whatever... fatally compromise their network.

      Imagine that. Making the computer serve its users, rather than the other way around. What kind of subversive thinking is this?

    8. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depending on how you recycle backups...

      Doesn't do any good if you backup the encrypted data, overwriting the "good" backup just because it was old.

    9. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Segmentation of networks is what's needed, I hope that companies and other organizations starts to learn that having a single internal net is a hazard.

      This is standard in the military - segmented nets, "washing" computers for USB drives etc.

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    10. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely it was an NTLM hack that gave access to all the servers.

    11. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      The issue is not the technology, it's humanity. No matter how many warnings you give people, no matter how many times you tell them "THIS IS REALLY BAD, DO NOT ALLOW THIS!" they will just click OK, and in most cases after not even reading the warning.

      The problem is software has been crying wolf with inconsequential security warnings: Yeah, I get it, the SSL cert I'm using is self signed. User Account Control, and the MacOS password prompt, pops up for every little OS change, I really do trust the RDP/SSH computer I'm connecting to. No, my computer doesn't have a virus you shitty clickbait ad.

      Users have become desensitized to security warnings, and ransomware is just the next evolution of this.

    12. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      The computer doesn't know or care who its users are - you're just a username and password. If you don't mind security, sooner or later, some hacker will be its user, not you.

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    13. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by XparXnoiaX · · Score: 2

      It's why we need full and embarrassing disclosure, to motivate companies to take security seriously.

      When companies start failing because of lack of security, then we will see them take it seriously. Not before.

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    14. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      I'm reading Andrew Ginter's book on SCADA security right now and reflecting on the insanity that there are SCADA systems, of all programming, being written on Windows, at all. There's one place the OpenBSD suggestion is quite serious. But even "OpenBSD" is just a buzzword unless you run your operations with security on your mind at all times. Schnier reduces this "mindfulness" argument to "read your logs", said it in three words.

      I think it is interesting the "lessons" people chose to extract from events.

    15. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For "diligence and discipline", read "money". That's the rub. If diligence and discipline were the solution to anything, we'd have cracked this 20 years ago.

      Any security "solution" that requires diligence and discipline is just a failure waiting to happen.

    16. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point being, the more of a pain in the ass your "security" measures are, the easier the social engineering attacks will be.

    17. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2
      So, for a backup to really help, it has to carefully separate code and data

      You don't backup the code anyway - its much faster to reinstall from source. I can reinstall OpenBSD and the relevant packages in under an hour. (Yes, I have tried). It helps to keep a script to reinstall all required packages. A tape restore would take 2 1/2 hours. Of course, you may need to do that anyway if the data is compromised. (I assume the disk backups are compromised - if not, obviously it would be quicker, and less data lost to restore them).

      These attacks need to be stopped before they happen, not recovered from.
      I say Redmond should be nuked from high orbit - its the only way to be sure!

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    18. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      If we moved to OpenBSD en-mass then we would only discover is a much a problem as everything else in its own ways. That is a good book though and yes I do use OpenBSD. Truth of the matter is, we need a radical new paradigm in computer that neither one of us can think of.

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    19. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "but it is very reasonable to have the entire system on its own VPN with NO other ports open."
      The idea of all this remote automation was to remove the need for layers of staff at every location.
      A few skilled engineers can keep a networked system working all day with another set of workers for repairs.
      If too many new staff are hired to watch computers or run the network when the computers fail they might unionise.
      Think of all the wages and over time, extra pay and holidays that will have to be covered for local staff.
      Just let some contractors in to clean up the computers and it'd all good again.
      The contractors can even network in from different states or other cities to fix issues, thats how well designed the network are....

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    20. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by RhettLivingston · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Every service on its own net. But for the sake of cost, I'm simply saying it is just as good to virtually segment it using a VPN and closing every other port.

    21. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by fisted · · Score: 1

      For a "closed-world" system like some city transport, running a defined set of programs that doesn't change all the time, one could feasibly get some actual security with a little hardware support, TPMish.

    22. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck, it is San Fran. Beserkley is right there, so why not Beserkley Standard Deviation as the OS of choice?

      On the serious side, THIS type of case is where and why the FBI / CIA exist. Not to spook evryone on earth, but to trace this email address, by triangulation (Windows 10, etc), and sen them an early Christmas gift, by air-mail delivery: one Pershing missile with nuclear (nuku-lear if you prefer) hot tip. Problem done solved itself. Next hacker fool will think long and hard before hacking.

    23. Re:When do we switch to OpenBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't backup the code anyway - its much faster to reinstall from source. I can reinstall OpenBSD and the relevant packages in under an hour. (Yes, I have tried).

      I can do a complete restore (OS, configuration, applications and data) in 10 minutes. That's less than it would take to find out which files were missed by a "data only" backup.

      A tape restore would take 2 1/2 hours.

      I back up my system to an external hard drive. Much faster to restore.

  5. The stockholders wouldn't like it. by sehlat · · Score: 0

    *diligence* and *discipline* cost money.

    The Corporate Mantra is "But that costs money. The stockholders wouldn't like it."

    Add in "But nothing bad can happen, so why waste money on it." and you have a recipe for the PG&E pipe explosion, Fukushima Daiichi, American Airlines Flight 191, and on and on and on,,,,

    1. Re:The stockholders wouldn't like it. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      So you're saying this shouldn't happen to non-profits, governments and NGAs?

      Hint: this just happened to BART. Quit knee jerking.

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    2. Re: The stockholders wouldn't like it. by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Public transport in North America is chronically underfunded. So "do it cheaper" is definitely a contributing factor.

    3. Re:The stockholders wouldn't like it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hint: this just happened to BART. Quit knee jerking."
      ?
      "Hint: this just happened to _MUNI_..."

      FTFY, you Moron. MUNI and BART are entirely separate, often irritatingly so.
      Actually, that is unfair. Let's check HornWumpus' Posting history...

      I was right the first time.

  6. Fix this sh#t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hospitals, schools and transportation. Clearly attacks on infrastructure and public safety - an act of terrorism. Track down, capture and lock up these assholes.

    1. Re:Fix this sh#t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't stop the next hack one bit.

      The only way is to make the systems secure - and that means from the ground up.

      And that leaves out Microsoft based software.

    2. Re:Fix this sh#t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well problem solved. Everyone back to the stone age.

    3. Re:Fix this sh#t by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      "You hacked" is rather broken English so I'd suspect it's out of our sphere of influence.

  7. likely over-reaction. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    disclosure: i worked as a contractor for LA Metro.
     
     

    its arrival-time screens just displayed the message "You Hacked, ALL Data Encrypted"

    not a hard feat to pull off. the data thats shown on these screens is either dynamically generated by track signal data thats processed through SCADA and into a windows system, or you can issue an override screen for construction/etc...removing this screen should not be hard.

    and all the rides were free

    there is no magic button to make all rides free centrally. This was likely done by Muni as a last ditch effort because their card transaction databases were offline or the system that handles accounting for this database was offline due to the hack. Muni simply put their turnstiles into bypass mode and sent their fare enforcement officers home for the day. it means when they run their fare-jump report for the month, theyll have to adjust for the days they had open fare points.

    "The transit agency has no idea who is behind it, or what the hackers are demanding in return,"

    nothing. chances are great they didnt expect to get this far. its possible the warning on muni transit screens is a side-effect of a wallpaper or start screen that machines are now forced into depending on what model of annunciation system they purchased. if thats the case, reimaging the screens will take 2-3 hours and can all be done centrally. as for the accounting database for oyster/muni cards, thats an easy restore from backup or calling transactions back from their VAN provider (value added networks, generally operated by IBM or Cisco.)

    as for people worrying about getting paid, this happens a lot. ive once shut down live map systems on a handful of busses to upgrade the video drivers, and by the end of the day there was a rumor spreading that the payroll department was hacked. Drivers/operators are not brilliant minds.

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  8. When will companies finally stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    using that Microsoft garbage? The city hates us so they shove it down our throats. I hate having to use it here at work, but the article is wrong about affecting email. I was just able to login at mail.sfmta.com. They can't get their lies straight. They lie. And now they say Microsoft is most likely going to prevent us from getting a paycheck. Why have no Microsoft execs going to jail yet for this? They are stealing from us.

    1. Re:When will companies finally stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just be glad they don't use Microsoft's attempt at an accounting system. We've spent nearly six figures on $575 an hour consultants to try to fix the mess Great Plains left behind. Every paycheck so far this year has been late and many wrong since my boss had to do the math by hand because of Microsoft.

    2. Re: When will companies finally stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering GP works successfully for an extremely large number of other companies I'm going to go ahead and say the tool is not likely the problem. That being said you certainly CAN set it up incorrectly and cause problems for yourself down the line, but let's not make believe that the problem exists anywhere other than between the chair and the keyboard here.

    3. Re: When will companies finally stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Microsoft? Because it sounds like they setup the system, then charged consulting fees to fix the broken system. Ahhhh gotta love getting raped.

  9. Not to point fingers, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux got hacked again.

    The main reason to use Linux is for cutting costs, which usually goes hand-in-hand with cutting corners.

    1. Re:Not to point fingers, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Not linux.

      This was yet another Windows hack.

      Try again.

  10. Not safe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about you but if the hack is giving me free bus rides, I feel far from unsafe.

  11. They're heroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I pay taxes ***OUT THE FUCKING NOSE*** in San Francisco, so the idea of **PAYING** for **PUBLIC** transportation is anathema to me.

    I've been riding free for the past two days and I **salute the persons responsible for this***.

    1. Re:They're heroes by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Hope you'll be happy when they shut the whole thing down. You may pay a lot of taxes; I don't know. But taxes alone don't cover the cost of the public transit.

    2. Re:They're heroes by sucko · · Score: 0

      They either die heros, or live long enough to see themselves become villains.

    3. Re:They're heroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are already riding for free, why the fuck do you care. Maybe they should just get rid of public transportation all together.

    4. Re:They're heroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I pay taxes ***OUT THE FUCKING NOSE*** in San Francisco, so the idea of **PAYING** for **PUBLIC** transportation is anathema to me.

      I've been riding free for the past two days and I **salute the persons responsible for this***.

      Your going to completely ***FLIP OUT*** when you ***GET THE BILL*** for the whambulence ***RIDE*** you're ***TAKING*** right now.

    5. Re:They're heroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If taxes don't cover the costs, what actually pays for public transport?

      Over here, one city did the calculations: The bus fares didn't even pay for the people checking that passengers didn't cheat, the back office, ticket machines, etc. As a result, they made the bus rides free and saved money.

    6. Re:They're heroes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I pay taxes ***OUT THE FUCKING NOSE*** in San Francisco, so the idea of **PAYING** for **PUBLIC** transportation is anathema to me.

      You'll pay high taxes in all cities with corrupt government.

      It's the nature of the beast.

      You'll even pay illegal taxes, such as property taxes on your home, effectively requiring you to rent your home from the government. Being able to own property is one of the most fundamental rights in a free country - and you can't own a piece of property if you have to rent it from somebody else.

      Hence, nobody can actually own their home in jurisdictions that allow taxing property (when that property is a home). Lose your job, and your landlord (the government) will kick you out for failing to pay your rent. It's an incredibly stupid situation to have in the legal system of a nation that claims to be a free country.

      Not only is this a violation of fundamental rights (and hence a violation of the highest law in the land, specifically rights "retained by the people" under the 9th Amendment), but property taxes are subject to serious abuses, and do a lot of harm to society. For example, the "property tax on the home" concept is often abused by developers to force poor people (usually minorities) off land - sometimes land their family has lived on for generations - so the developers can get rich (in collusion with the government officials who raise the taxes and simultaneously cut the developers a deal "to encourage development"). Property tax rates are often disproportional high for poor people (relative to the value of their homes). Governments in the US have been caught actually taxing minority owned properties at a higher rate than other properties - and playing all kinds of games with the appraisal process to penalize these people.

      Property taxes also allow a huge difference in educational funding between districts. This is a huge problem: the poor districts need more funding, not less. Parents in wealthier districts are already spending more time helping their kids - and are more effective at helping their kids - which means poor and minority kids are at a double disadvantage. They don't get good help from the parents, and they have lousy schools.

      It's also inappropriate to tax undeveloped property - whether or not there is a home on it - since undeveloped property preserves native ecosystems, providing habitat for native species, as well as providing other environmental and societal benefits. Some jurisdictions actually tax non-developed land higher - the exact opposite of what a government should do.

      California is especially bad when it comes to illegal taxes, since their property taxes infringe the right to travel - if you chose to exercise that right, you pay more taxes. People who've lived in one spot for many years can pay thousands of dollars less in taxes than their neighbors with identical homes. But California is not the only place with problems: many non-California jurisdictions tax land of non-residents at a higher rate, which also violates the right to travel (and creates a problem of taxation without representation).

      A government with integrity would pay for services such as fire, police, and transportation with taxes on sales, or income, or even tariffs. So claims that property taxes are somehow "legitimate" as a result of the money being spent for these services are entirely without merit.

      Unfortunately, the property tax problem is just one of many problems affecting the US legal system(s): the problems with patent, and copyright, and various government agencies that we love to discuss on this forum are just specific example of a general disease in the legal system. These problems are hard to fix. The lawyers are very skilled at creating the illusion that their actions are legitimate. Also, the lawyers make large campaign contributions, which serve to block legislative reform and ensure nobody gets selected for judicial office that's going to rock the ethics boat. Many legislators are themselves lawyers, which creates additional conflict of interest. It's government of the lawyer, by the lawyer, and for the lawyer.

  12. The real crime by BlueCoder · · Score: 1

    I don't endorse this sort of thing but all your IT people told you it was going to happen.

    They told you the the days of living with buggy security and security through obscurity are over and that you needed to replace your equipment/system/infrastructure (which would have cost a lot of money) and you didn't do it.

    I guarantee you at least one person quit or was fired.

    Voila.. you get what you paid for.

  13. In Soviet Springfield... by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    BART gets pranked.

  14. Cloud Hotels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps these organizations should have a backup infrastructure, stored off site, non-accessible from the original system until the correct physical credentials are presented, usable with smartphones and tablets, and with the data required to continue business immediately. Purge the old system, rebuilt it physically and bring back the system with the associated planned and tested procedure. This should be useful for some other catastrophic scenarios as well. After all, if our house burns down, we can live in a hotel or in an emergency shelter for a while.

  15. calling commander adama by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    get everything off the net for starters including vpns.. even that doesn't prevent airgaps from being bridged but its a good start.

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    1. Re:calling commander adama by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      yee haw

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  16. Simple solution by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Hook the fare metering computers to the deadman's switch on the ICBM launch system. That way if the pesky russians hack our subway fare system, the nukes launch. They won't do that more than once!

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    1. Re:Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean to initiate Wing Attack Plan R?

  17. Beyond that, fragile overall by raymorris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even beyond that, systems that can be so completely broken are typically fragile systems, systems that break in ordinary use. As an example, here's a standard SQL injection, which was present all through a system I worked on recently:

    SET lastname='$FORM_LASTNAME'

    Sure that can be leveraged by an attacker, but what happens when the user's last name is O'Reilly? O'Reilly can't sign up for the service.

    That example is typical. Code that's easily hacked is fragile, poor quality code in general, in most cases. Fixing security isn't JUST fixing security. Code that can't be broken is code that doesn't break.

    1. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Well said.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Code like that would work if the language was designed in a way to keep data as data and language as language.

      If someone's name was Johnny;); drop table munidata;-- that is what should end up in last name. The language should be smart enough to not get confused about this. There are many libraries that float around to address this very problem through elaborate quoting or sanitation but really it's the adherence to SQL and non type safe languages and APIs that is to blame.
         

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    3. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's always been easier to break something rather than create something. Nobody has created a mass produced and implemented system of any type that is immune to hacking. The most popular OS's such as Windows, OSX, and Android are still all vulnerable to malicious hacking. Of course the biggest attack vector in these OS's are the users with poor system administrators coming in a close second. You can make a pretty secure system and then have all that security bypassed by poor firewall management, system administrators who think running every application under admin credentials helps stream line support, and of course the developers who are not as smart as they think they are who leave gaping security holes in their applications.

      And the mobile platforms are ridiculously easy to compromise due to people blindly downloading the newest and coolest apps that catch their attention. Mobile hardware and software systems put release dates way ahead of any security considerations. The break neck pace of mobile platform development mirrors the early development of the desktop and early internet focused platforms. Grabbing market share in the rapidly advancing technology industry was more important than making sure the products were secure or even bug free. After all the general public knows that software patches are the norm.
      Just because a mobile app store scans the apps before making them available for downloading does not provide any real protection.

      Some of the biggest cyber attacks didn't even require an outside network connection in order to be launched. I am pretty sure the Iranians did not have internet connectivity in their centrifuge lab. A lot of the most dangerous cyber intrusions require physical access to the machine you want to compromise and for state level security and intelligence services this is really not that hard to do. Physical access to data centers, network conduits of all types, cell phone towers, and even satellites can be accessed when necessary.

      Can secure applications be created? Maybe. The tradeoff would mean longer software and hardware development cycles and all the associated expense that would entail. Any attempt at creating an alternative to the current internet infrastructure is a non-starter because of the cost and possible service disruptions such a project could create and even then the alternative could turn out to be just as vulnerable as the current system. For those worried about their personal privacy and security when using the internet there are plenty of tools available to ease your mind. But also keep in mind if you some how come to the attention of any state security agency you are toast. In the US the ruckus over the NSA spying on it's citizens is really a poor argument. The government can collect all the data in the world but it is essentially useless to the domestic and foreign security services. One of the early Snowden documents included an assessment by the NSA that bulk data collection of internet traffic was a waste of time and the exploratory attempts at collecting this amount of data was cost prohibitive. What the security agencies like the NSA do have is the necessary tool set needed when targeting specific people or groups they are interested in. The tools and cyber assets available to them for foreign counter intelligence operations is also formidable. I find it strange that you only hear about Russia or China infiltrating US systems but you never hear Russia and China making the same claims against the US. So what's going on? Is the US is not conducting cyber operations against Russia and China? Is the US running these type of operations and are so good at it that China and Russia cannot even find the smallest example to use in their counter accusations? Hell, they have not even found the elusive and mythical backdoor into Windows that everyone has been searching for. In recent times there has been a lot of talk about the decline of the Yanks on the world stage but that is a dangerous assumption and tends to overlook that the US has purposely

    4. Re: Beyond that, fragile overall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent said: "but really it's the adherence to SQL that causes the problem."

      SQL has *always* had "parameterized queries" where the query is precompiled and takes its parameters (input arguments) like any normal programming programming language does.

      SQL injections are done using "dynamic SQL" which is simply building up a SQL query as a string and then running it.

      Real secure design would of course just send the parameters and nothing else to the server and the server would execute a function which would call parameterized SQL (never dynamic SQL).

    5. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Even beyond that, systems that can be so completely broken are typically fragile systems, systems that break in ordinary use. As an example, here's a standard SQL injection, which was present all through a system I worked on recently:

      SET lastname='$FORM_LASTNAME'

      Sure that can be leveraged by an attacker, but what happens when the user's last name is O'Reilly? O'Reilly can't sign up for the service.

      That example is typical. Code that's easily hacked is fragile, poor quality code in general, in most cases. Fixing security isn't JUST fixing security. Code that can't be broken is code that doesn't break.

      Even worse, what if his name was "Robert'); DROP TABLE Students; --"?

    6. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by CByrd17 · · Score: 1

      Little Bobby Tables!!

    7. Re:Beyond that, fragile overall by eionmac · · Score: 1

      Likewise a UK major supermarket cannot take two part names, e.g de Gan or van Holst or mac Donald or O'Reilly. After much correspondence. I just did not sign up equals lost customer
      Eion Mac Donald (English form) [ I just forget the possibility of Gaelic spelling in the system!]

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    8. Re: Beyond that, fragile overall by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Going on further, the query language would not be Turing complete. It would have formally decidable behavior and it would be possible to formally (and easily) show that the only operations expressible over the channel are in a permitted set.

      I developed a CA request protocol along those lines. So the attack surface of the CA interface was greatly reduced and inconsistencies could be easily detected.

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  18. PLACE YOUR BETS - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which crypto-currency will they use?
    I'm thinking Bitcoin.
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    If you stop crypto-currency, you stop ransomware.
    Unfortunately all the major US banks are planning to adopt it.
    Good luck America!
    Oh, I forgot Trump will fix everything. LOL

    1. Re:PLACE YOUR BETS - by ASDFnz · · Score: 1

      Which crypto-currency will they use?
      I'm thinking Bitcoin.

      Quite likely, the other crypto currencies don't really measure up for anything other than novelty use.

  19. Ubisoft viral marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ubisoft viral marketing for Watch Dogs 2 I guess? I'd prefer they actually do that Cowboy Bebop ripoff game.

  20. Exposed our jugular veins to predators by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    I don't care how clever you all think you are, you cannot design a system that cannot be hacked.
    We've gone far too far, hooking up control and command to the internet. We did it to fire people and save money, or at least divert the money once given to ticket takers to computer companies.
    So, this is what the future is.

    1. Re:Exposed our jugular veins to predators by Stonefish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're flat out wrong. Provably secure system exist and have existed for decades. Go to, or go back to Uni and learn a little. The fact that it's much cheaper to develop systems which aren't is a design choice. The people making those design choices should be held accountable for the decisions, no ifs, no buts.
      Heads on sticks is the answer, who was responsible for implementing this system on Windows? Who was responsible for not patching the system? and who was the clown that provided vectors from the Internet to this system?

    2. Re:Exposed our jugular veins to predators by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Yes and no. There are ways to secure things, it is just hard. It also makes it an order of magnitude more difficult to have enterprise resource management/planning systems that work and improve efficiency.

      Not necessarily bad things.

      But, things like online banking will destroy us.

    3. Re:Exposed our jugular veins to predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Provable secure systems may exist in mathematics, but when it comes to applied security there are always loopholes. In the end, it all boils down to Alice and Bob wanting to keep a secret from Charlie. Even while Alice's 4096-bit ECDSA key may not practically be bruteforced, there's always the option of Charlie holding a gun to Alice's head while demanding the key + any relevant passwords. And that's assuming that everyone with authorized access is actually trustworty: most mathematical security proofs assume that Alice and Bob are seperate entities from Charlie. In practice, Bob and Charlie may very well be one and the same person.

    4. Re:Exposed our jugular veins to predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, go to Uni, because provably secure systems aren't found in the commercial world. For instance, the famous L4 kernel is provably secure as long as you don't use DMA. Yet modern hardware like SSD's are built assuming that DMA is a given. And considering the scope of BART, performance of your central system is a real concern. A provably secure system that handles one or two ticket transactions per second is simply pointless.

      That said, I'm also unsure why you blame Windows. About half the security leaks (by number, not severity) are SQL injection and similar failures to sanitize input, at the application level. That happens on any OS; the attackers might not even know what OS is underneath the DB they've hacked.

    5. Re:Exposed our jugular veins to predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what if you do secure all those things, but your internal employee is coerced by outside forces to allow access internally to the system? People are a very weak link in the chain.

  21. SF...hmmm by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't this the place that arrested its systems administrator because he wanted to keep the system password secret?

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    1. Re:SF...hmmm by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't this the place that arrested its systems administrator because he wanted to keep the system password secret?

      Yes. He insisted on doing his job to the letter to the very end and they boned him for it. Like a fish. He played Ahab and forgot to let go.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  22. Obligatory in soviet joke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Russia, buses are thrown under the hacker!
    In other words: all your buses are belong to us!

  23. I will bet they never emailed for the key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they had the typical 1 bitcoin would have been aid by now.
    But they know what they have now and 1000 bit coins may not do.

  24. Black Mirror: Shut Up and Dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you've seen Black Mirror: Shut Up and Dance (on Netflix,) you'd take the cue that a ransom doesn't prevent them from stealing or destroying the data anyway after you paid or do whatever the blackhats want.

    This is the thing about cybercrime, either you stay on top of security updates, or you keep years of backups in case whatever destroys your data does so anyway. Never pay the ransom.

    In regards to Black Mirror, if someone steals your nudes, or whatever. Live with the consequences. If you're paranoid that someone might use your gadgets against you, a piece of electrical tape covers the camera. You should wipe out the OS and install a clean OS every year. It's just such a pain in the ass to reinstall software that this isn't done frequently enough. There are reasons why people hang on to old software like Adobe CS3/CS4/CS5 because it's such a pain in the ass to migrate the license if the machine dies.

    For a transit system. These systems all run Windows XP. It's game over for XP, either create a Linux Distro based on RHEL, or build your own RTOS.

  25. hacked screens should have read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "All your bus are belong to us"

    1. Re:hacked screens should have read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's a modpoint when i really need and someone really deserves one...

  26. Sad answer: never, and it's getting worse by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    When the secretary of state is allowed to have a private email server located in someone's closet across the country, and not only do no consequences arise but much of the computer industry says that is perfectly fine - at that point how can you possibly think that anyone will take computer security seriously from that point on?

    I am not saying this to troll; I am saying this is the gloomy reality of the situation, and I have given up on the computer industry as a whole taking security seriously.

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    1. Re: Sad answer: never, and it's getting worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Vice President elect Pence was allowed to... ;)

  27. You're not safe from hackers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not safe from Mormons

    Read "A Study in Scarlet".

    Mormons are just as evil as any other Jihadist religion, worse!. They should be thrown out of the country! Some religions actually should be banned. Mr. Trump, do your job. The Muslims are comparative pissants.

    1. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      So far, I have not seen Mormon Jihads, Mormon Caliphates and Mormon mass beheadings. So I think that you or someone your read are exagerating just a wee little bit regarding Mormons...

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    2. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have not seen Mormon Jihads, Mormon Caliphates and Mormon mass beheadings.

      You haven't seen anybody else do it either, oh, unless you were there. Lots of fake news out there, like on who did 9/11. The official narrative is no better than any other conspiracy theory. It just depends on who you want to believe.

      The Mormons are evil, as bad as the Protestants. Only the Catholics, and maybe the Jews are trustworthy. The "Inquisition" was done in self defense.

    3. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The "Inquisition" was done in self defense.

      Why are you making me punch you?

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    4. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So far, I have not seen Mormon Jihads, Mormon Caliphates and Mormon mass beheadings.

      No, but there was at least one Mormon Massacre. Presumably they haven't organized one of those in some time.

      To be honest though, I have no more problem with Mormons than with any other large, illogically-named group of people who think they get a free pass on bad behavior. Some of them are quite nice. They are pretty much completely patriarchal and do have a distinct problem with misogyny, which does not make them unique among the religious but which is a bit troubling.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by Frobnicator · · Score: 1

      Read "A Study in Scarlet".

      I have. Both parts are works of fiction. Arthur Conan Doyle became quite famous for his fiction. His fictional story about a bunch of mis-named religious people -- people who had an extermination order for practicing religion in a country that prides itself on freedom of religion -- was an interesting read, but it was clearly fiction just as much as Holmes was fiction.

      (Although to be fair, I imagine some people think Sherlock Holmes was a real life character and perhaps may think Doyle's other fiction works are factual, too.)

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    6. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "Inquisition" was originally, and largely except for Spain and Portugal later, used to root out _Internal_ Heresy, such as the Cathars and Waldensians. It wasn't until the much later Protestant Reformation that these Heretical Sects found common ground; as often as not, they were usually tearing at each other's throats as well.
      One classic, and badly remembered, Inquisition was that of Galileo. Galileo recycled some borderline Heretical beliefs, they did burn Bruno for Heresy after all, but his obstinacy in his explanation of Tidal Motion was his downfall, as well as quoting Pope Urban directly in his ridiculing of the character of Simplicio. Galileo never could admit that he was wrong... which is sort of the whole point behind an Inquisition. Note that Galileo was not burned.

      "The "Inquisition" was done in self defense." makes as much sense as saying pulling a bad tooth is done in self defense. At some level, this is actually true, but utterly preposterous in the given context. You have my permission to punch him.

    7. Re:You're not safe from hackers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      makes as much sense as saying pulling a bad tooth is done in self defense. At some level, this is actually true, but utterly preposterous in the given context.

      Absolutely not! You have to rout out invaders to prevent infection of the body. The Moors were a real threat. The inquisition was the antibody. Unfortunately it attacked some healthy cells too, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

      The Mormons, like all other protestant sects, represent a real problem and they should be treated like any other mafia types. Lock them up!

      Catholicism in the one true religion. All other are false and should be outlawed. Maybe then we will have peace on earth.

  28. disclosure: i worked as a contractor for LA Metro. by khz6955 · · Score: 1

    disclosure: i worked as a contractor for LA Metro

    What platform does the backend system run on. What desktop application is used to access the backend system?

  29. All it takes... by Whatchamacallit · · Score: 1

    All it takes is one moron to click a phishing email link, executing the malware. Apparently, someone with privileges clicked the link. As in someone with enough access to production systems to infect the entire network. An IT worker got infected and using that IT workers user account the entire system was infected.

    This is why those who are serious about security do annoying things like make IT workers use a different account with admin privileges that cannot actually be logged on directly but can execute processes with privilege. Needing to checkout a new password for that account daily and logging all usage of that account. Also removing local admin rights from the IT workers primary logon account. Because outsourced and low paid staff are morons. You know who gets infected the most in corporate America? It's those H1B1 Visa workers who can't afford their own computers so they take the work laptop home and surf sites back in India and Pakistan where many systems are infected.

    Serious security means many layers of protection, deep packet analysis, cloud proxy that can decrypt SSL, endpoint analysis, etc., etc. Disaster Recovery is very important, there needs to be a DR SAN/NAS that is mirrored and switchable. Once you get the infection under control and confirm no more ransomware is spreading you flip from production to DR and thereby recover your data instantly. Backup critical systems as well. All this is not enough if you don't train your employees to not do stupid things like click phishing emails, download unapproved software, plug in a USB drive found in the parking lot, and give their password to a total stranger for a chocolate bar.

  30. HDDCryptor targets Microsoft Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Detected as Ransom_HDDCRYPTOR.A, HDDCryptor not only targets resources in network shares such as drives, folders, files, printers, and serial ports via Server Message Block (SMB), but also locks the drive" link

  31. This one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Hurd.

  32. "Putting all your eggs in one basket." by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    When will this world ever learn that you just don't rely on one system. You have a backup system, consisting of paper, people, and phones. Our single dependency on the Web is showing again!!

  33. giggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    --One San Francisco local told CBS, "I think it is terrifying. I really do I think if they can start doing this here, we're not safe anywhere."

    Yes, precious snowflake, even your progressive city by the bay isn't immune. Why, this sort of thing should only happens in Hillbilly towns!

  34. Re:Did cavemen do this? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    I actually agree. If it was written "Your hacked" though I wouldn't be so sure.

  35. Backups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess multiple un-infected backups would be asking for too much? Couldn't you just back up x days until a version was found with out the lock in place?

  36. Re:disclosure: i worked as a contractor for LA Met by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What platform does the backend system run on. What desktop application is used to access the backend system?

    None of your business.

    Not trying to push security thru obscurity -but you do not have the need to know. Need to know is simply a layer in the security paradigm.