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The 'USB Killer' Has Been Mass Produced -- Available Online For About $50 (arstechnica.com)
New submitter npslider writes: The "USB Killer," a USB stick that fries almost everything that it is plugged into, has been mass produced -- available online for about $50. Ars Technica first wrote about this diabolical device that looks like a fairly humdrum memory stick a year ago. From the report: "The USB Killer is shockingly simple in its operation. As soon as you plug it in, a DC-to-DC converter starts drawing power from the host system and storing electricity in its bank of capacitors (the square-shaped components). When the capacitors reach a potential of -220V, the device dumps all of that electricity into the USB data lines, most likely frying whatever is on the other end. If the host doesn't just roll over and die, the USB stick does the charge-discharge process again and again until it sizzles. Since the USB Killer has gone on sale, it has been used to fry laptops (including an old ThinkPad and a brand new MacBook Pro), an Xbox One, the new Google Pixel phone, and some cars (infotainment units, rather than whole cars... for now). Notably, some devices fare better than others, and there's a range of possible outcomes -- the USB Killer doesn't just nuke everything completely." You can watch a video of EverythingApplePro using the USB Killer to fry a variety of electronic devices. It looks like the only real defense from the USB Killer is physically capping your ports.
I tried it on my laptop, desktop, and phone. And it does not respond. Matter of fact...hm.
I can't believe these computers are built with current limiters!
I'm gonna have to stop putting random USB sticks in all my devices. :(
People kill devices by plugging this in.
I can just picture someone plugging one of these into one of those public charging kiosks at an airport. Wanna bet how well the ports are well isolated?
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
I'm calling shenanigans on the claim it was used to fry a 'brand new MacBook Pro', as a brand new MacBook Pro doesn't have USB ports. Unless you're buying a model that's a few years old, and why would you do that?
I'm glad my iPhone 7 is safe from any potential 'headphone jack killer' devices. Ha ha. You lameos and your non-Apple products.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Like the fact that you can find a USB port in planes, trains, bars, and various other places where you might need to charge up your phone?
Yup, not any more.
It really sucks that some people just like to watch the world burn.
Pour it on laptop or desktop or server. Works 100% of the time.
Someone should sue these tick turds. Right after they inhale watered PC smoke.
than usefull to tinfoil hats/hacker/maybe spies if it melted ram and hardrives then maybe. uess its still chemical solutions to fry their data in a rush.
What would happen if you plugged one of these into a charger?
Trolling is a art,
This device will self destruct in 5 seconds (or however many cycles it takes to get to -220V)
**Life is too short to be serious**
One interesting use I can think of is to simply carry one around in case you get arrested by the police.
Supposedly police require a warrant to search your personal papers such as your cell phone, so this shouldn't be much different. If they take the USB drive over to the cruiser and plug it in "just to see" then this will fry their system.
You can even tell the officer not to plug the device in, that it's not a thumb drive, and that there's no information on it.
It would probably work at airports as well.
I really don't see a downside to this.
This idea goes way back to phreaking and what I think was referred to as a blotto(sp?) box. Basically hooking an inverter and HV transformer directly into a telephone junction box and causing unpredictable levels of destruction in the surrounding area.
In highschool someone discovered sticking a car key into a usb port was like the computer equivalent of 'cartridge tilting', although it usually damaged the machine in addition to the graphical glitches it produced.
He isn't draining anything, he's filling it even fuller with Olympic swimming pools worth of sludge. His Treasury Secretary is plucked straight from, drumroll please, Goldman Sachs. After all that time he spent complaining about the (((GLOBALIST ELITE BANKERS))) and whining about Hillary's speech to Goldman.
I'm going to enjoy watching his supporters slowly figure out they fell for a long con, got suckered bigly, and voted in the world's yuuuuugest huckster.
I don't get the concern here. Abbie Hoffman used to describe plugging the phone network into the power grid and taking out an office telecom system. What's new here? You can break a computer in a thousand ways if you have access to it. Shoot it, blow a fire extinguisher at it, pee on it, use compressed air, drop it on the floor, EMP it... whatever.
I think this "news story" is actually a slashvertisement.
Are optocouplers too expensive to include on motherboards now? That's what should be frying, not the whole laptop.
"Everybody's naked underneath" -- The Doctor
I'm all for things that go boom. I love weird, clever little gadgets. I admire a clever and subtle subversion of a system, even when I don't condone its use.
But geez; this thing is not exactly elegant. It uses a fairly basic circuit to exploit the completely unsurprising fact that the interface isn't designed to handle high voltages.
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I don't have any problems with someone using this to fry usb ports on things that don't belong to them "for the lulz" being fucked in the ass to death. For the Lulz.
All I need is a regular outlet and my Anker multiport USB charger. Each port individually protected.
The problem with a device like this is it is hard to find a substantial legitimate use for it. Given that, they are likely to be targeted for a lawsuit and they are likely to lose that suit.
While it is perfectly ok to sell a device that gets used to commit crimes, you generally have to have a legit reason to be selling it and it can't be something that is totally made up that nobody actually believes. So for example while a crowbar can certainly be used to break in to a house to or attack someone, they are also widely used used to get nails out of things and pry stuck objects apart. As an opposed example a number of companies that sell devices to help you cheat on urine tests have gotten in trouble since their devices had no use other than said cheating.
It is very, very hard to think of a legit use for this and I can't imagine they'll get many legit sales. So it'll probably get them in legal trouble.
I hope everyone that buys this device to do harm to someone's system forgets and installs in into their systems. I can see something like this being used when you take your car in for service and the tech wants to get YOU and fries the USB in your car costing thousands to fix. Or worse yet they use it to make money at the repair shop car after car with thousands of repairs. Even worse yet BestBuy techs use it to fry peoples laptops/tablets to force them to buy a new on. Holy crap this is a really bad thing to make available to people.
I doubt they'd have a hard time stretching it to over something like this. If you have a device who's only purpose is to destroy something and it goes and destroys something, well you are pretty likely to get in trouble for it.
Remember courts aren't operated by overly literal geeks who think if they can find some explanation, no matter how outlandish or unlikely, it'll be accepted. The law bases a lot around what is reasonable, and around intent. So your attempt at being cute won't work, and you'll be off to jail.
It also may very well be illegal just to have, or be made illegal if not. There are devices that are outlawed purely because they have no legit use. Many states ban burglary tools, which can include things like the cracked ceramic piece of a spark plug (the aluminum oxide ceramic breaks tempered glass easily). If they catch you and can prove intent, then you are in trouble just for having them with the intent to use them illegally.
Oh and don't think they have to read your mind or get a confession to prove intent. They usually just have to show that the circumstances surrounding the situation are enough to lead a reasonable person to believe that you were going to commit a crime.
And a post like this, would count for sure.
or perhaps thermite
Trump shows occasional flashes of real promise -
Yeah, like flashes of WW 3. Promise!
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
I have physical access to the device to begin with. I could just as easily get all stabby with an ice pick or blunt object.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Why in gawd's name would anyone mass produce such a device? This must be one of those fake news stories we've been hearing so much about.
In technical terms, the USB ports could be designed with diodes to prevent this sort of attack. Perhaps they already are, but in fake news terms they could just up the stored voltage until it's stronger than a lightning bolt. Of course, in technical terms there is no reason it has to be that small anyway. You might as well run a wire to a USB connector and then touch the exposed lead to a fully charged Van de Graff generator. (Now I'm wondering how much static electricity protection USB ports already have.)
The story is credited to a "new submitter". I think he's just a new sock puppet and my proposed maturity filter might have dealt with him.
I'm trying to figure out how to cover the open base... What if it isn't a fake news story? I can't imagine any legitimate use for such a device, so I assume it would be made illegal as soon as the politicians can get off their duffs.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
And replacing it with a gold-lined swamp
He isn't draining anything, he's filling it even fuller with Olympic swimming pools worth of sludge.
Bingo. The Trumpkins have been completely suckered, as you can see from the resumes of those in President-elect Donald Trump’s closest political circle so far:
Treasury secretary nominee Steven Mnuchin: Goldman Sachs.
Chief strategist Steve Bannon: Goldman Sachs.
Transition adviser Anthony Scaramucci: Goldman Sachs.
Commerce secretary nominee Wilbur Ross: Rothschild & Co.
Possible budget director Gary Cohn: Goldman Sachs.
Potential secretary of state Mitt Romney: Bain Capital.
And Trump is just getting started. Check out that “swamp draining!" Take that, Wall Street!
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
The Taiwanese mobo brands have been layering ESD, overvoltage, and overcurrent protection, as well as fuses for individual ports, on their shit since the late 90s when tons of shit was getting fried due to crappy PSUs and crappy peripherals. The last time I saw it as a named feature emblazoned on the front of the box they were on version 4 of whatever they called it.
If you're buying OEM crap (Dell, Lenovo, HP, Apple), or an Intel board, you're fucked. Decent mobos will at the worst lose just the one port when the fuse blows.
He's a racist, lying, idiot sack of shit, but he hasnt murdered a pregnant woman on live television, that we know of, so give him a chance!
This is just another way to vandalize stuff. I owned a far cheaper version of this 30 years ago. Its called a baseball bat. Before that, I had a tack-hammer. My ancestors had a version too, but they called it a "brick". Even earlier versions were called "rocks".
If we're lucky, cities will start passing ordinances to make mere possession of these a crime, since there is no legal purpose for these.
USB keyboards may be a catch22.
Witnessing small but steady improvements of technology over common sense. Ultimately there will be a single technological moment in which there will be no common sense at all.
Seeing this on Slashdot is like picking up a carpentry trade magazine where one expects to see advice on practical projects, tools and plans, to find a feature article about stepping on rusty nails. Carpenters sometimes step on them and there are bits of humor and sympathy here and there but this article is different. There are lurid photographs of nails sticking out of feet, everyone seems enthusiastic about the topic. They have obviously scoured the Earth to gather present those excited about this thing, and there a distressing number of people. It is even obvious that folks have stepped on rusty nails to be featured in the article.
The long time reader is horrified and confused. Perhaps something has gone horribly wrong with the world in a way that is surreal.
As stupidly pointless as inBOIL's death in Richard Brautigan's work, In Watermelon Sugar ,
Pauline started mopping up the blood and wringing it out into a bucket. When the bucket was almost full of blood, inBOIL died. "I am iDEATH," he said.
"You're an asshole," Pauline said.
And the last thing that inBOIL ever saw was Pauline standing beside him, wringing his blood out of the mop into the bucket.
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
Didn't something similar on my old system. The game ports were mounted in front and a screwdriver hit the exposed pins. I blew out one of $20 DIP's.
Anyone else dying to find out what happens if you plug two of these into each other?
Unless you own the hardware or have explicit permission. Using this otherwise is the equivalent of taking a hammer to a computer without permission. As this device has no purpose except destruction, it may even be criminal to own in some places.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
These kinds of things are the reason why you don't want your storage soldered to the motherboard.
Some kids are going to go around and nuking display-models of laptops, desktops, smart tv's, video game consoles, you name it. Time to start epoxying the USB ports of "permanent" installations of devices with USB ports.
Please note that in order to use this device on your new MacBookPro that you'll require a special USB-3->USB-C adapter. Please make an appointment at your nearest Apple Genius Bar to test your device.
I hope they lock the fuckers up and throw away the key if someone dies from one of these devices.
Fuck the cunts that sell these thing.
And fuck the cunts that buy them.
Talking to Taiwan sounds smart, if you're an idiot who doesn't have the most basic grasp of the nuanced dynamics at play. He'll do all the things people like you will think is bold, smart, independent, whatever - and predictable reactions from China will happen, just somewhat small but meaningful consequences. And people will keep wondering why they have to live in a world the way it is, not the way they think it should be. Much like the adage that there's no such thing as a stupid question, it sounds like a cool move emotionally, but in reality, leaders need to know how to tread.
"Old man yells at systemd"
.. in my phone. Steal my phone or attempt data theft at an airport or police stop and your device gets fried.
"in that case maybe blowing the data lines would be a good thing overall." only until they find out why it broke down, then the person caught doing it get slammed for terrorism attempt or similar.
Yes, sure, an interesting thought experiment, I suppose. Maybe. If you're the sort of psychopath who likes to pull legs off of small insects and animals just to watch them die. And, if that's the case, well, you need to be removed from direct contact with society and should be seeking treatment, possibly including protection from yourself. There is no legitimate use that comes to mind for a USB-killer other than to intentionally destroy property (unlike, say, a firearm which has legitimate uses beyond the raw ability to kill or maim). Moreover, it would seem to be targeted toward public-facing USB ports which are, in general, a public good, and destroying a public good brings us back to the psychopath issue.
For everyone else, well, that sort of creative energy is useful put to more positive efforts.
Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
"real promise - his talking with Taiwan for instance"
Yeah, irradiated little Americans look real promising if he keeps that up.
"Judge them by their actions"
Yeah you guys were totally willing to give Hillary a chance on that, right?
Talk about hypocrite...
Time for someone to make and sell a 'USB Killer Killer'
Upon detecting that a USB killer has been inserted the USB Killer Killer quietly disconnects its protected USB link to the PC's USB port.
It then flashes a rotating red LED, sounds a warning siren and declares thermonuclear war on the unsuspecting USB killer by way of its 1.21kV capacitor bank, which interestingly happens to be around the size of an overweight adult hedgehog.
Unexpectedly the USB killers plastic casing instantly explodes and showers the user in molten hot plastic and metal shrapnel.
Hm.. i should probably rethink this idea.
Actually no, if you're stupid enough to use a USB killer this is what you get.
Just buy one and throw it in the police car park or the airport car park. No one will pick it up and stick it in the port right? And unless you're caught on one of thousands of face recognition cameras they won't be able to find you right?
Congrats, Anonymous Asshole! You shoehorned politics into the one story on Slashdot today that had nothing to do with it! Congrats on your wonderful virtue signaling, peacock.
Only a fool doesn't realize that Trolls like Trump love the swamp.
Regardless of wether he had a role in Goldman Sachs scandal, he either worked for Goldman Sachs, knew what they were up to and did nothing to prevent it making him complicit, OR he wasn't aware of what's going on in his own back yard making him incompetent and unfit for public office.
It's a nice product to demonstrate, that you should trust no hardware. But its a Proof of Concept. There is no reasonable use to mass produce it. Even securty professionals won't kill one notebook per customer, but just play a video of the thing in action.
Mass producing it just calls for stupid pranks costing a lot of money and killing a lot of data, which isn't backed up. And possibly getting people in jail, which think its just a prank.
I just want to know if he's a floater or a sinker
I'm sure the same problem exists for all external connections (with an external battery to supply the capacitor charging current):
There are commercial devices that are used for ESD testing that have been available for many, many years. The only differences here are:
- the connector on the end
- the amount of (dis)charge
- the malicious intent
For Laptops:
Thunderbolt3
Power supply
HDMI
VGA
eSata
FireWire
PCMCIA
expressCard
serial port
parallel port
PS/2 keyboard/mouse
(the list goes on)
Hell, even applying enough voltage to an LCD screen would probably destroy pixels, if not render the entire screen dead.
For USB, specifically someone needs to invent the kensington lock equivalent for USB ports (although Thunderbolt3 ports are pretty damn small).
Or some kind of lockable case/protector or laptop condom....
Best not to leave your devices unattended, ever.
I think we might be worrying a bit too much about Trump. He's an idiot, but the important thing is that all he has is rabid, brain-dead, naïve followers and a bunch of stooges and opportunistic lackeys. But he has no friends. The moment he has outlived his usefulness to them, he'll get impeached so fast he'll never realize what happened. Nobody likes him. The republicans can't stand him, he's not one of them, and the Democrats sure as hell won't save him.
I think the reign of The Donald and his unhappy Asstrumpeteers will be pretty short. I'm reasonably sure he won't sit the whole term.
why is you peoples first response to anything always "racist" please explain..
The answer to the problem is we need to remove Stupidity from State. there should be mandatory IQ testing for NOT ONLY voting but ALSO FOR the politician themself..
We're already getting emails about these from our managers forwarded from other districts. They're scared.
It looks like the only real defense from the SledgeHammer (tm) is to physically protect your laptop.
I think we should have some laws against ball-peen hammers and their ilk to protect our devices!
If you have physical access to a machine, you can do pretty much whatever you want to it.
If someone is planning to leave theses around to destroy computers then they could do a lot more damage with an infected USB drive - to anyone idiotic enough to plug in an unknown usb device.
If you want to maximize damage, an ounce of C4 in a drive will to a lot more damage. Thermite would be more spectacular.
I don't get it. You spend $150 for a device that will make a computer fail in a boring way.
this on things. Varied results. Some things die, some don't, some have odd shit happen in between.
Just be careful to keep your fingers out of the way when you smash the laptop.
Wait... Now get two for the same price, just pay additional shipping and handling.
I will break anybody who uses that on me.
They're really easy to make too. You just take a regular USB project, get some of the wires confused and hey presto! You too could be frying the data line with high voltage instead of doing what you actually want your circuit to do.
on an airplane. Great, now no USB sticks on planes
Have gnu, will travel.
Since they require the 5V power from a host to generate the high voltage and all...
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Accusing a federal judge of being unable to discharge his duties because he's Hispanic, and a member of the Hispanic Bar Association (one of hundreds of such affinity lawyers groups), manifestly is racist, as even Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan was forced to admit.
Insofar as Islam, it is a sprawling religion consisting of 2.2 billion adherents, with many sub-ideologies. If you yourself have not apologized for the "Klan" (who call themselves Christian and "light" crosses as emblems of their WASP faith), then any broad brush attack on Muslims over the actions of al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda of Iraq (a.k.a. ISIS) is pure bigotry.
Bashing illegal immigration, while conspicuously being entirely unconcerned that Trump's own wife Melaina was clearly an illegal immigrant, is again not only a sign of hypocrisy, but one of racism. Because there is no legal difference between the two situations. Merely a skin color one.
The reason why people continue to call Trump racist is because he is. The reason why people call his supporters racist, is because there is hard evidence of racist attitudes taken from surveys of them.
The idea that a racist is going to suddenly vote for the party who opposes racism, instead of the Republican party that it has been proven benefits from it, if only people wouldn't point out their racism, is absurd.
Is that enough research for you?
Your team lost, try to deal with reality.
Lol, so did yours, it just hasn't dawned on you. :)
He's already breaking most of his campaign promises. Take a look:
Build a wall along the border? He says it's not going to happen now. :)
Draining the swamp? More like refilling it. lol
Deporting 3 million people? Never going to happen.
Deporting 11 million people? Never definitely going to happen. He's already said so!
Jailing Hillary Clinton? He's already said he won't do it.
A 'total and complete' shutdown of Muslims entering U.S.? He's said that's not going to happen.
"If I become president, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again." I'd like to see him make people do that.
Save Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security without cutting benefits. Lol, with what? Magic beans?
Bar Syrian refugees from entering the country and kick out any who are already living here? Not gonna happen. He's already said so.
He said he'll "Never take a vacation while serving as president." Really? We'll see.
Target and kill the relatives of terrorists? Ummm, no- that's a war crime.
Shut down parts of the Internet so that Islamic State terrorists cannot use it to recruit American children? Lol, good luck with that.
"I promise I will never be in a bicycle race." This I believe, because the fat fuck can barely climb a flight of stairs.
Bring back jobs from China? We both know that's never going to happen. That ship has sailed.
"Force Nabisco" to once again make Oreos in the United States? Suuuuuuure he will. Yeah, sure, lol!
On his first day in office, Trump said he would get rid of gun-free zones at military bases and in schools. I'll bet you $10,000 that doesn't happen.
End birthright citizenship? Uh, no, sorry....that's in the Constitution.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
"Research" is a pretty strong word for links from Politico: https://www.google.com/amp/s/a...
And the WashPo and New York Times: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry... (NYT again:) http://m.washingtontimes.com/n...
God forbid Trump do something to piss off China! Like accusing them of raping America, of rampant economic cheating, government-funded hacking and espionage, or vowing to "renegotiate" economic agreements with them. He was doing real good with China until that phone call!
Besides which, "Muslim" is not a fucking race. Get over it.
Actually, doing the opposite of what the nice "free trade" globalists have been doing for the last 40 years is a really good idea. That was kind of the point of electing him. A lot of us are tired of political correctness at home, and just as tired of making nice with murdering thugs who cheat on every bit of trade laws they can, who masquerade as communists but who are really just interested in staying in power, and who need to seriously be told that their inevitable world domination is not so inevitable.
Now if we can do something about our own lying, cheating, murderous thugs masquerading as capitalists we might just be onto something.
Calling people what they are is exactly what those of us who voted for Trump want. Is it safe? Maybe not all the time, but enough is enough when it comes to harmful ignorance of the true nature of things.
This device will appear in a hacker/spy movie soon. Depending on your age and viewing preferences it could be:
1). Jason Bourne; ...
2). Jack Reacher;
3). Lara Croft;
4). XXX;
5). New (New New?) Avengers;
6). James Bond;
7). Die Hard;
8). One of the various Super Hacker movies, one-offs starring such people as Robert Redford, Angelina Jolie, John Travolta, etc.;
9). Scorpion;
10). Mission Impossible;
11). S.H.I.E.L.D.;
12). Men In Black;
13).
Just look at the schematic for the USB jack. One lead is supply, and another is ground.
Short the supply lead with ground and pffffssst , you have killed the usb logic on the mother board. Bye bye motherboard USB connection.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
50 bucks for this? Back in "my day", we made these things for nothing, and we used them too. Here's how you do it:
1. Cut the cord off a lamp
2. Cut a data interface cable in half
3. Splice the two together
Plug one end into a surge protector outlet, and one end in to any computer component. BLAMMO!!!!
Then reset the surge protector, and you're ready again.
O NOES HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR DEVICES FROM THIS!!! :D
Here's an idea: Don't let your idiot h4xx0r children borrow any hardware you actually NEED.
(Took my parents a round or two to learn that One Simple Trick.)
Still wrong: Islam is the SPECIES and how to be better that SPECIES. Not US. Or what do you think an institutional state of war sounds like? Lion charity to impala agreements? That they managed to communicate something to us is remarkable but does not mean they are rational. And I _was_ today hearing a desperate sounding she barista defending herself from an obvious Muslim Arab male barista after she **decoded** what the Muslim man meant with a single phrase and how she nuderstand what it would mean for her de facto. I made my best efforts not to listen, forgot the phrase right away, but it was exemplar that the he barista did defend it and the she barista did answer rationally to an **innocent** statement. She concluded he would have to kill her. He simply shut up. I kept playing a videogame. YOU want to still discuss whether they will extinguish us first or not!
Since this exists, it is now the responsibility of hardware manufacturers to protect against it.
It is manifestly NOT racist once you background check the judge. I'm sure there are some Mexicans and children of Mexicans that Trump would quite happily be judged by, but THAT one isn't one of them. THAT particular judge had already shown partiality in a number of his decisions, and is associated with groups that support illegal immigrants.
Having problems with an individual is not racist, even of that individual is of another race and you are a white male. Having a blanket policy that "I will not be judged by a Mexican" is racist. Trump hadn't said anything like that, so go find some other "proof".
damned lazy kids, back in my day we had to build our own etherkillers and solder the 110 line or capacitor and switch ourselves, then use hot glue or electrical tape to make sure it wouldn't shock the shit out of you (or leave it bare and you have 2 functions in one device.
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
I'm going to enjoy watching his supporters slowly figure out they fell for a long con, got suckered bigly, and voted in the world's yuuuuugest huckster.
Eh? The situation is far more complex than that as you would have noticed if you had seen as many presidents as I have. I suspect that Trump honestly believed what he was saying but, to steal a line from someone else in here: Some guys in suits walked into the Oval Office (without even asking permission!) and opened a briefcase with a video screen in it. It displayed footage from around 1963 in Texas with the caption, "This is what happens if you do not cooperate"
I am not trying to say that Trump was intending to do good things for the American people. I am saying that whatever his intentions were, they were fucked off quite rudely from day one. Really? He hired his most hated type of person to be his economic advisor? That is surely a sign that he is fully in control. No?
Yeah, the elections are just theater. Being president of the United States may be fun but it is far from the top of power. How else do you explain Obama's presidency?
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
Because clearly, being agaisnt someone that is a member of a lawyer's association that will only accept Hispanic members (racist), and is named, literally, "The Race" is somehow racist? It is now racist to point out other people's racism, this will be fun!
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Nor is Hispanic, which is an ethnicity, not a race.
Muslim is much like Jewish in that, it is a culture and religion, not a race.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
but the important thing is that all he has is rabid, brain-dead, naïve followers and a bunch of stooges and opportunistic lackeys
As opposed to all those followers of Hillary?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Hillary got many chances, unfortunately, at every turn she kept proving how horribly corrupt and terrible she is. Her actions proved quite clearly that she would have been a horrible president.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?