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Drupal Event Apologizes For Giving Out Copies Of Playboy (drupalcamp.de)

An anonymous reader writes: The organization team for a regional Drupal event apologized Thursday for distributing copies of Playboy to attendees. The magazines were distributed in welcome bags, according to a statement from the organizers of DrupalCamp Munich, and "were provided by Burda, a major German publisher, who also provided other technical magazines as part of their sponsorship. These magazines were approved for inclusion by the camp organizers.

"At the time, we thought it would be a good idea, as playboy.de was one of the first major Drupal 8 websites ever released. Upon reflection, this wasn't the best idea, and the magazines have been removed... It was a decision made in poor taste, and we regret it.

The inclusion of the magazine had attracted criticism on Twitter from both male and female developers, with one writing sarcastically, "Dunno about you, but I only read playboy.de for the Drupal code."

251 comments

  1. Nobody wants to see nude women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why they included Playboy.

    1. Re:Nobody wants to see nude women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, photos, or it isn't true!

    2. Re: Nobody wants to see nude women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah right ! In other time it would have been a huge success but with no nude woman nobody wants that offensive magazine >;D

  2. Aieeee, You're Not A Loon!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a billion dollars. Now shut up.

  3. Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Playboy no longer has pictorial spreads. They are basically a rich man's Maxim.

    1. Re:Why is this an issue? by Sartr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anonymous fuckwit: the guy just said that women are no longer being objectified - the magazine is owned and run by a woman and there's no longer photo sets! Idiot, I swear.

    2. Re:Why is this an issue? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Right now there is a naked woman on the front page of playboy.de. I think the ending of nude pictures only applies to the US edition.

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    3. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not any more offensive than depicting men as cardboard cutouts in soap operas in order to appeal to women's psyches.

    4. Re: Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? What? What? That's the best part about being a person. Nakrf shoes are great. And they know it.

    5. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "BIGGI DOLLERER" eh? Well I know of one thing that just got biggi, and it wasn't my drupal installation count.

    6. Re:Why is this an issue? by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      And soap operas are generally not part of corporate culture either. Good point I guess?

    7. Re: Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's still provocative photo spreads, they just aren't nude. That doesn't mean they aren't still objectifying.

    8. Re:Why is this an issue? by amiga3D · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is confusing. I see women every day who state they hate being objectified as sex objects and then show up with a mini skirt that shows the curvature of their ass and shoes with 7 inch heels. I'm almost 60 now and my urges no longer have the overwhelming power they did when I was 20. Still I thank God that women in my day didn't dress half as slutty as they do now or I'd have had problems for sure. The shit in Playboy today is tame by street standards.

    9. Re:Why is this an issue? by Pluvius · · Score: 2

      Nudes have been removed from the magazine, not the website.

      Rob

    10. Re:Why is this an issue? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The only thing porn does demonstrate is the rapid and disturbing deterioration of dumb sluts, due to drugs and declining credit worth of fading youth leading to desperation and extremes of behaviour, slut as a term in this sense being used regardless of the sex of the individual, now being one of five possibilities ie born both, one or the other or changing from one to the other.

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    11. Re:Why is this an issue? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's actually really simple. They don't want you to treat them as sex objects. Don't want to be grabbed or leered at, want you to look at their face when talking to them, judge them by their work rather than the curvature of their arse etc.

      In the same way, I prefer to be judged not by my receding hair line or expanding belly, or my disability, or any other irrelevant physical attribute. Judge my work on its merits.

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    12. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playboy still has pictorial spreads. They don't feature full nudity anymore, but they still feature provocative photos of scantily clad women.

    13. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm almost 60 now and my urges no longer have the overwhelming power they did when I was 20. Still I thank God that women in my day didn't dress half as slutty as they do now or I'd have had problems for sure.

      Lolwut? 40 years ago was the seventies, dude! Dressing slutty was practically invented then. It was just mostly restricted to clubs and you didn't see it every day on the street unless you were in the seedy part of town.

    14. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cant find nudes on their website. Only on playboyplus.com

    15. Re:Why is this an issue? by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Exactly, it was kept for the party scene.

    16. Re:Why is this an issue? by amiga3D · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If you don't want to be seen as a sex object why would you dress to draw attention to how sexy you are? Why a dress up to your ass and tits hanging out of a half buttoned blouse? That doesn't say "Look at my face" to me. I wouldn't think of approaching any of them, not in my wildest dreams. It's not old fat ass gray haired me they're trolling for.

    17. Re:Why is this an issue? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I agree that there has to be a reasonable limit.i just figured you were exaggerating a bit... Everywhere I have ever worked wouldn't have considered that appropriate attire.

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    18. Re:Why is this an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...you didn't see it every day on the street unless you were in the seedy part of town."
      It was the seventies, dude! The "Natural Look"- Halter Tops, Peasant Blouses with no bras, bare feet, and cutoffs or Hot Pants were routine in Junior High Schools! (They didn't call them Middle Schools back then...)
      Then came the Reagan Eighties; Poodle Hair and the "Layered Look", high-as-a-kite Nancy Reagan preaching "Just Say No"...

    19. Re:Why is this an issue? by amiga3D · · Score: 0

      I've seen it. The heels, the short skirts and half buttoned blouses. Of course it's not all of the women, not even most but it's more than I'd have thought.

  4. What's the big deal? by tylersoze · · Score: 3, Informative

    Playboy stopped having nude women in it like a year ago right?

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Playboy stopped having nude women in it like a year ago right?

      It's the principle. I'd feel a bit ripped off if I'd been promised a free copy of playboy and it didn't even have any naked women in it.

    2. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Playboy Deutschland Publishing GmbH stop including nude women too?

    3. Re:What's the big deal? by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i highly doubt it. No one else (except maybe China?) has problems with (and laws prohibiting) nudity like the Americans do.

    4. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... No one else (except maybe China?) ...

      A photo of a topless woman holding a clay urn is a popular decoration for restaurants in China. In some restaurants, the nipples have been air-brushed out of the photo.

      ... (and laws prohibiting) nudity ...

      Public or semi-public nudity isn't the 'done thing' in Asian culture but they don't have the moral hangups about sexual organs that christian western culture has.

    5. Re:What's the big deal? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Playboy departed the nude photo market due to the vast and unending supply of photos and video of all manner of naked people doing sexual things which one can access via the Internet.

      However, one can make a case that a good deal of the past content of Playboy was about objectifying women and to some extent the publication still is about that.

      It was a dumb decision. Several people just weren't thinking. They're embarrassed now. They learned, and won't do it again.

    6. Re:What's the big deal? by zrobotics · · Score: 1

      Considering that it isn't that terribly uncommon to see a Chinese man 'relieving himself' in semi-public, I'd say that culturally it is a done thing. AFAIK, the big reason it's even an issue now is that, like spitting, it's becoming an imported cultural hangup. Oh, and traditional Japanese bathhouse are also semi+public, but are also falling out of favor. Seems we Americans have to really try to export the worst parts of our culture.

    7. Re:What's the big deal? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The German version still seems to have nudity.

      It's just odd that they didn't have realise it would be an issue.

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    8. Re:What's the big deal? by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Considering casual nudity is common enough in Germany I wonder why you'd think that. It's not the US. I remember when there while serving in the US Air Force in the late 80's seeing topless or nude models in advertisements occasionally.

    9. Re:What's the big deal? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The German version still seems to have nudity.

      You mean we're not actually sure its nudity? 8^0

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    10. Re:What's the big deal? by strstr · · Score: 1

      I started to think. If I saw naked men or men in their underwear I don't honestly think they're being objectified.

      I understand women have beef with capitalism though. That's where you can't feed yourself, house yourself, go to school/college, pay for things you need unless you work, such as by modeling, including nude modeling, art, and porn.

      Well they hate the fact that they are taught to keep their clothes on most of their lives and its sin to remove clothes then suddenly capitalism is trying to force them to do it, or afford some the opportunity to do it for a profit. The complainers can't even stand people that don't feel its objectification because they have found outs its ok, a revenue stream and very artistic. The ones with issues against it simply have their own personal world view against it but yet still generally consume it and benefit from it. Its a very odd thing. No one complaining actually fully avoids or it or actually dislikes it inside they just say they do.

      I personally would hate society without nudity, sexuality, female and male gender and bodies.. Its very tasteful and artistic. Its very stylish and simulating. If we actually erased it that would be seriously sad.

      I do like the idea of giving people their basic income, free housing and stuff first before having people do porn, art, modeling, dance etc. That way at least they have no reason to go into it unless they personally enjoy it.

      https://www.obamasweapon.com/

    11. Re:What's the big deal? by strstr · · Score: 1

      By the way I found out they might not have went non nude in Germany yet. Take a trip over to playboy.de it has tits exposed. Playboy.com has no tits after the switch up to non nude ..

      https://www.obamasweapon.com/

    12. Re: What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a dumb decision. Several people just weren't thinking. They're embarrassed now. They learned, and won't do it again.

      Good - so when are they going to bring the nudes back?

    13. Re: What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try circulating Playboy or Maxim in any Muslim country and you will find it IS A BFD!

  5. Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by bjdevil66 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...from a PR standpoint. This doesn't exactly help the perception about how misogynistic web development environments are for women. And the last thing a somewhat fading development platform (at least outside of large enterprise) like Drupal needs is for something to fire SJWs up...

    Where was the, "Das ist eine wirklich schlechte Idee?", leadership from the conference organizers in Munich?

    1. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think SJW's need to grow up.

    2. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What exactly is misogynistic in Playboy? You do know that women chose to act and chose to be in Playboy? And here I am, thinking we are living in a progressive society where women have full responsibility and control over their bodies. We are not in Saudi Arabia, are we?

    3. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. At the next event they should put Playgirl inside instead.

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    4. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SWJs aren't major contributors to Drupal. Why is it their business what Drupal does at its conferences?

      Don't they have their own events? If not, why would Drupal host them?

    5. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We are not in Saudi Arabia, are we?

      Some of us are. I've no idea where you are.

    6. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 0

      Yeah but they were damned either way as now alt-righters have something to complain about.

      In they end they probably decided they could have choosen better magazine that didnt have decades worth of association as a skin mag with it.

      Shouldnt be that big of a deal either way really but I'm sure a few SJWs and alt-righters will try to make it one.

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    7. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't you get it? This is a society where everybody gets to make choices. As long as they're the choices that the SJWs agree with of course.

      Female empowerment and sexuality - celebrated

      Male empowerment and sexuality - demonized, made illegal, and persecuted

      Every. Single. Time.

      Maybe it wasnt their best move including Playboy, mostly because it's kind of irrelevant to the subject of their event, but the way they apologized for it is what really makes me mad.

    8. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Playgirl use Drupal on their website? If so, I'm okay with that. So, are we good now?

    9. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Feminist message is that women need to be protected.

    10. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Oligonicella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SJW's and (actual) alt-righters have two things in common, they raise a lot of ruckus and their numbers are not that large.

    11. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      funny, women in porn and who do erotic photo shoots often say they feel empowered by doing so. Their body, their choice to display it and all that

    12. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I need a chrome extension that, whenever it encounters "SJW", replaces it and everything that comes after it with "... never mind, I'm a moron."

    13. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an SJW, I feel the need to protect those poor victims from themselves, and forbid all women in porn, as they just don't know any better. It makes me feel good about myself.

    14. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see why this was modded as flamebait.
      it's a matter of fact that the first and foremost trait of maturity is emotional self-control.
      Given how often Social Justice Evangelists get offended and what low level trivial drivel they get offended over,
      they not only need to grow up, they also need psychological counseling because too much neuroticism and triggerades can lead to early heart-attack.

    15. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 0, Troll

      The Feminist message is that women need to be protected.

      I've got news for you: Each of us needs to be protected from something. And it's too difficult for each of us to take all of that responsibility to protect ourselves individually. That's why we live together in societies. make rules, and empower others to enforce them.

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    16. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by iggymanz · · Score: 0

      make sure to have army of supporting fat greasy neckbeard manlettes living in Mom's basement, it amplifies your online voice and position by a factor of 0.025

    17. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better a moron than wrong.

      Let's just replace your posts with "I have nothing to refute with."

    18. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... women need to be protected.

      No, the message is men need to do all the work, then be punished when women are somehow not 'equal' in society.

    19. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How about one that traps for newspeak socjus terms with "...never mind, I'm a brainwashed idiot"?

    20. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Are you lost? Shouldn't you be in another article railing against Trump and / or Russia?

    21. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So? It was in Germany, not Soviet Arabia. If you're offended by boobs, stay in your backward country (and hell, playboy doesn't even have nudity anymore).

    22. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that doesn't justify totalitarian culture policing for the sake of feelings.

    23. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe a bit off topic, but you used the word "misogynistic," which means "hatred of women."

      Appreciation of beauty is not hatred. Lust is not hatred. Thinking of women as sexual beings is not hatred. The word "misogynist" is thrown around by feminists and social justice warriors in abundance, and they are all using it wrong.

      It is true, there are men in the world that hate women, but it is not at all reasonable to lump in with them men who like looking at women naked (which is to say, all straight men).

    24. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm happy to have the US military protecting me from those things I cannot protect myself from. You know, actual threats.

      I don't need anyone protecting me from photographs.
      I don't need anyone protecting me from mean tweets.
      I don't need anyone protecting my feelings.

      Do you understand the difference? Everyone needs protection from superior firepower, but mature adults do, in fact, take all of the responsibility for their feelings, for their sense of being offended. If you claim someone needs their feelings protected, then you are, yes, claiming they are a child, or at least not a mature adult. It's not complimentary.

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    25. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A better question would be why a person who hates women would buy Playboy, since misogyny means hating women while sexism is the correct term being sought here.
      Too many idiots using terms they do not understand.

    26. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You left out another shared trait, SJWs and alt-righters both want to censor anything that hurts their feelings. On The_Donald, supposedly the "last bastion of free speech on the internet," one of their prime rules is you aren't allowed to criticize the forum moderators (or of course Donald himself). It's the ultimate safe space.

    27. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playboy is not porn.

    28. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 0

      I don't need anyone protecting me from photographs.

      So, if someone secretly photographs you masturbating and posts it online, you're fine with that?

      I don't need anyone protecting me from mean tweets.

      But someone else may need protection from your mean tweets, and those of others. Cyberbullying has driven many people to suicide.

      I don't need anyone protecting my feelings.

      I don't think it's possible to protect anyone's feelings anyway. Not in the sense we're discussing here.

      Everyone needs protection from superior firepower

      The internet is one of the most potent kinds of 'firepower' we have ever seen. It can let someone inflict asymmetric and widespread harm to another's reputation from a device they can hold in their hand. It can be used to inspire people to commit terrible acts. And of course, it has brought many great things that I see no reason to give up. My point is that there are other kinds of 'firepower' besides the ones you mean.

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    29. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by pseudofrog · · Score: 0

      The crowd reacting to every PR kerfuffle with a self-righteous anti-SJW hissy-fit is by far the most annoying element here.

      There are 3 tweets about this that got about 45 retweets each. That's nothing. It was a dumb idea, a couple people said it was a dumb idea, and the conference admitted it was a dumb idea. Everyone has moved on. Calm your tits and realize that not everything is part of some vast SJW conspiracy to keep you from jerking off to anime porn or whatever.

    30. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 0

      Nothing. But giving it out at a professional event is misogynistic. I hope you can see the difference.

    31. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Isn't the real problem that they put there anything at all?

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    32. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      I need a chrome extension that, whenever it encounters... never mind, I'm a moron."

      Replaced that for you!

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    33. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I need a chrome extension that, whenever it encounters ... never mind, I'm a moron

      FTFY

    34. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I thought the feminist message was that women are capable of thinking (and dealing with stuff) for themselves? Or was that a suffragist message?

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    35. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      It's really easy to say people don't need protection when nobody is every trying attack you. People don't try to sneak naked pictures of you in the bathroom and post them on the internet. People don't follow you around all day saying they are going to rape you to death. I think you might have a different opinion if they did.

    36. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      No, the feminist position is that people shouldn't be violent to each other, and that quite a lot of porn is violent. Not in the beating sense, but ejaculating into someone's face (male or female) is kinda hard to frame as an act of respect... I mean, maybe for some people it is, but that's not generally why they do it in porn.

      Beyond that objection, there is actually such a thing as feminist porn. Why wouldn't there be? Feminists enjoy sex as much as anyone.

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    37. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 1

      I love you for saying that. I've been interacting with too many people on here lately that desperately want to be offended.

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    38. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women doing something feminists don't like - that's misogyny.

    39. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      This is true of course, but that's not the objection mainstream feminism has to Playboy.

      The main objection is that it evaluates women on their looks, rather than their accomplishments or talents. It tries to be serious about it, which is just weird. Imagine if Time decided to throw in some nudes of Elon Musk, along side his interview... Airbrushed of course. Or if male actors did it to prove they were still hot enough to get roles at 30.

      It's not puritanical, it's an issue with treating women differently and to a lesser extent using their bodies to sell magazines which perpetuates the idea that the female body is a commodity.

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    40. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      I need a chrome extension that, whenever it encounters... never mind, I'm a moron."

      Replaced that for you!

      We'll have moron that later.

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    41. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      ejaculating into someone's face (male or female) is kinda hard to frame as an act of respect... I mean, maybe for some people it is, but that's not generally why they do it in porn.

      Agreed, it doesn't seem like an act of respect on the giver's part.

      But I think it's an act of supplication, on the recipient's part. Which I suppose can be arousing in a sexual context between consensual partners.

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    42. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Is this the new alt-right thing? You can't call anything sexists because then you're saying women have to be protected which means you're undermining them?

      I ask because I've seen this "thought" pop up a lot lately whenever some one suggests something is sexist.

      Just a heads up, calling something or someone sexist doesn't equal, "women need to be protected". Thinking women shouldn't have to deal with sexism is not at all the same as thinking they can't handle themselves when confronted with it.

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    43. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it seems some woman enjoy it more than the men do.

    44. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feminists present multiple messages as being "the feminist message," and some of these messages conflict with each other.

      It turns out that most large political movements have this problem.

    45. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it deeply amusing that people belonging to a subgroup that lionizes the "alpha male" image spend so much time whining that they're being oppressed by feminists.

    46. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Cederic · · Score: 1

      The problem comes when e.g. nude photographs are considered sexist, as it allegedly exploits women who thus have to be protected from, e.g. earning an income by posing for photographs.

      I'm sure some gender studies professor can tell me six different ways in which this isn't undermining those women but if they had actual intelligence they'd be a professor in something academic, so I'll mostly ignore them anyway.

    47. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Maybe a bit off topic, but you used the word "misogynistic," which means "hatred of women."

      Appreciation of beauty is not hatred. Lust is not hatred. Thinking of women as sexual beings is not hatred. The word "misogynist" is thrown around by feminists and social justice warriors in abundance, and they are all using it wrong.

      It is true, there are men in the world that hate women, but it is not at all reasonable to lump in with them men who like looking at women naked (which is to say, all straight men).

      The OP's point was about "how misogynistic web development environments are for women" -- not how pictures of beautiful women in magazines is purportedly misogynistic.

      If I may risk presenting the feminists' argument, I think it is that porn is not necessarily misogynistic, but that it has the potential to foster a devaluation of women into a role of objects of sexual gratification. And that can encourage misogynistic thinking. Any feminists who are following this thread are welcome to correct me.

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    48. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      This is true of course, but that's not the objection mainstream feminism has to Playboy.

      The main objection is that it evaluates women on their looks, rather than their accomplishments or talents. It tries to be serious about it, which is just weird. Imagine if Time decided to throw in some nudes of Elon Musk, along side his interview... Airbrushed of course.

      I could not care less. If Elon wants to expose his ding dong in Hong Kong, he can have at it. Keep away fmor Kids, and let women who want nothing to do with it alone, and its a big Meh.

      Or if male actors did it to prove they were still hot enough to get roles at 30.

      It's not puritanical, it's an issue with treating women differently and to a lesser extent using their bodies to sell magazines which perpetuates the idea that the female body is a commodity.

      If I might, I'll give a try at an explanation. There are animals in the world where one of the genders is relatively plain, and the other is well adorned. In some of the birds, the female chooses her mate by their displays. The birds of paradise are a good example some of them are strikingly beautiful. And the all time king of this embellishment is the Prarie Chicken, whose hilarious looking displays and dancing cracks me up every time. But if he wants to mate he's gotta do it, as the female is the one who makes the choice, and he has to beg her.

      But let's get back to the decoration. I'm going to generalize here. In humans the most attractive is without question, the female. Men are all lumpy and bumpy and seriously prone to protruding bellies, and the females are the beauties, with pretty nice symmetry, and normally much better looking faces. And they seem to like to embellish themselves as well with jewelry and makeup.

      My mother, who was as straightlaced a catholic as you can get, enjoyed looking at the naked women in Playboy. As she said - "Women are just better looking than men, and I like looking at them." And it wasn't some repressed lesbian thing either. My wife has no objection to looking at naked people, although she laughs at the guys sometimes.

      And do you know what the most common porn for straight women to look at is? Woman on woman porn. You can google that. text, not the actual porn. Okay, you can google that too if ya like.

      Women are just in general, a lot more pleasant to look at. Its also why so many artists work with the female nude.

      And as outraged as some ladies get about it, good luck with trying to change millions of years of evolution. Though it might be funny to see in a million years, guys doing a dance for a chance to make with a woman - although I think that males won't exist in a few hundred years, as human parthenogenesis will probably give rise to an all female humanity. We've already produced human embryos through parthenogenesis, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... so a major problem for women is going to go away in the not too distant future.

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    49. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      So, if someone secretly photographs you masturbating and posts it online, you're fine with that?

      As long as they get my good side

      But someone else may need protection from your mean tweets, and those of others. Cyberbullying has driven many people to suicide.

      Two thoughts on that. One is that there had to be other issues for it to get to a suicidal state.

      Second is that children are not taught how to deal with bullies these days. Actually, they never have, but the special snowflake self esteem culture has backfired badly. Even when I was bullied back in Junior High, the school was no help. So I ended up tking care of it myself one day.

      But kids today have been given the idea that nothing bad should ever happen to them, and if they get into any trouble like a fight, their life is over. They won't get into the right college, the right career, and they are FAIAP finished.

      Part of learning how to grow up is learning how to deal with bullies, because they will be their your entire life.

      And a cyberbully is so much easier to take down than a physical one.

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    50. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Nothing. But giving it out at a professional event is misogynistic. I hope you can see the difference.

      So if they gave out nekkid photo mags with men in them, it would mean that they hate everyone? These things are hard to figure out.

      Better stick to war magazines with people killing people. That'll be okay, and not an expression of hatred.

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    51. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by lgw · · Score: 1

      So, if someone secretly photographs you masturbating and posts it online, you're fine with that?

      That seems like a non-sequitur, and I'm sure there's a tort in there somewhere, or a copyright claim, but I wouldn't care about being "objectified" or any such nonsense, and if it caused me no actual harm I wouldn't really care.

      But someone else may need protection from your mean tweets, and those of others. Cyberbullying has driven many people to suicide.

      Children might indeed need such protection. Children have indeed been driven to suicide by cyberbullying. Children need protection from many things adults don't.

      The internet is one of the most potent kinds of 'firepower' we have ever seen. It can let someone inflict asymmetric and widespread harm to another's reputation from a device they can hold in their hand.

      I think slander and libel laws are good things, but there's a difference between causing someone monetary damage and hurting someone's feelings. When an SJW hate mob costs someone their job, that's real, monetary harm. When someone makes an off-color joke, get over it.

      It can be used to inspire people to commit terrible acts.

      This is starting to look like a free speech discussion. Look: slander, libel, calling for immediate violence against a specific targets, yeah, fine, that's illegal because of real harm. But speech that hurts someone's feelings? Own your feelings - realize it's your problem if you're offended.

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    52. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be mean to the widdle snowflakes. The big mean "SJW"s hurt their widdle feelings and now they need a safe space to have a good cry.

    53. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I mostly see it pop up whenever someone suggests something is sexist for reasons that are themselves sexist. Young girls with an interest in math or technology shouldn't be told that's not a "girl thing." That's fine. Advocating for CS reform because math is too hard for girls? That's sexist.

    54. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While you're sitting here mocking people on the internet, Jamal is nailing your wife.

    55. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of this is hilarious given Playboy's role in the civil rights movement.

    56. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by aevan · · Score: 1

      They should. It'd be amusing to see the reaction to it: would the same umbrage be there, or would it be lauded as a 'progressive act' an 'ironic statement against the objectification women endured for millenia'? Or would it be offensive to asexuals?

      Personally think it was a dumb move to include porn, regardless of it being porn (it's still everyone's first though on seeing Playboy), but am curious were it Playgirl that had been an 'original website' would the furor been the same?

    57. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      eh, plenty of gay men will say women look like pile of ugly bloated marshmallows and that the lumpy bumpy male figure is where it's at. And plenty of straight women will say ditto even if your mom liked the female porn.

      The particular type of feminist who whines about judging women on appearance seem to miss many woman love to show off what they have and want to have great appearance. In general, most women want to look fabulous, they spend a ton of money to do so. Face masks, lotions, hair care/trimming/removal/sculpting, makeup, cosmetic dental work, clothing to accent or alter perception of body shape, breast implants....well the list just goes on and on for usual woman.

    58. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by dbIII · · Score: 2

      It's the "religious" nutters who need to grow up while those you are calling "SJW's" probably go to burlesque shows.
      I put "religious" in quotes since there are a lot of people who go around telling everyone how holy they are but if Jesus turned up they would call him a Commie and bang in the nails. The actual religious people who actually go around helping people probably couldn't care one way or another about issues of Playboy.

    59. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      plenty of male actors and rock stars pose for glamour shots and show off their bodies in movies and photo shoots and concerts.

      plenty of women actresses and porn actresses and models want to be evaluated based on their looks. they want to show off what they have and to be considered beautiful. they want to be a sex symbol / sex object ( and plenty of men in entertainment want exactly that too)

      it is puritanical for certain types of feminists to try to complain about this.

      Note I say certain types because there are other types that embrace the porn and glamour photography and art.

    60. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 1

      I'd call them more inappropriate in a business context which is probably why they were pulled.

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    61. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean every single person who uses the term SJW?
      Because those fuckers are the most thin-skinned, whiny little safe-spacing pussies I've ever seen.
      Perpetually offended that other people considered them boors.
      I guess its true what they say -- it takes one to know one.

    62. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad the anti-SJW threw their support in with religious conservatives who are even worse when it comes to nudity and sex.

      As a software engineer, I would have no problem with them handing out Playboy magazines, having booth babes at conferences, and even letting the women have hot guys to look at. I've seen much more than that on-line and am desensitized to most of it.

    63. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 1

      What's with the "actual" before alt-righters and not SJW? I've had plenty of posts on slashdot lately where I've posted a comment about something sexists and rather than refute my points I've gotten knuckle draggers going "OH, SO WOMEN NEED PROTECTION, I THOUGHT THEY WERE EQUAL" when all I literally said was that something was sexist with absolutely no mention of needing to censor others or "protect women". Said comments seem to be the fashionable "wisdom" of the alt-right currently when confronted with any issue with women they don't like.

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    64. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the perception about how misogynistic web development environments are for women.

      Hey, keep my IDE out of this.

    65. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The SJW faction may not be big in number, but they are concentrated in the student population, so they wield a lot of influence in the way universities are run.

    66. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      There is a tremendous variety in pornography. If a person keeps looking at the porn that devalues women, it is because that is the sort of porn they like and seek out.

    67. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      No, it's not a alt-right thing. Rather it's a general humanist thing, because many people are old enough to remember sexlib, or their parents were in it(though with us getting older -- it's sometimes the posters grandparents). The right? Right now it's in the humanist camp on this, women are women and have the right to do what they want. What many have a problem with are the radical feminists(3rd wave), sjws/snowflakes/etc screaming that women have to be protected because they're women. And the belief that women are so stupid, that they're unable to make their own choices and express their sexuality in ways that they want. Rather if they don't follow what they're being told, that they're heretics and should be shamed for expressing themselves. You know, like the ye olde days of showing too much ankle. Unless it's for the cause, then they'll strip down to their underwear.

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    68. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      SJWs aren't the only ones who think it's monumentally stupid and borderline offensive to distribute Playboys at a professional conference.

    69. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      If Elon wants to expose his ding dong in Hong Kong, he can have at it.

      That's completely missing the point. The issue is that it has become almost mandatory for women in some professions, and they can't avoid being judged by their bodies in others. We see it with politicians a lot, with the media often commenting more on their looks than on their policies.

      Men are all lumpy and bumpy and seriously prone to protruding bellies, and the females are the beauties, with pretty nice symmetry, and normally much better looking faces.

      I'm guessing you are not gay then.

      Anyway, as I say, it's not some puritanical thing about nudity, it's the way that women's bodies are exploited or distract from their other qualities that feminists object to.

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    70. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 2

      I mean, neither of those is okay at a professional event. I don't understand why this is a hard concept...

    71. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The main objection is that it evaluates women on their looks, rather than their accomplishments or talents.

      This is in fact how men evaluate potential sex partners, it's a reality some people don't like and can't deal with. Women treat men as success objects, and evaluate them as potential providers - so of course they look at his status, accomplishments and talents over looks. And they presume to tell men they should evaluate women the same way.

      I don't think there's anything wrong with appreciating a woman's or man's beauty in isolation, any more than it's wrong to appreciate someone' intelligence regardless of their physical appearance.

      There's also an element of jealousy on the part of women who feel rejected. Thus they want to make things "fair" by saying judging a woman by her appearance is a no-no.

      "Moral indignation: jealousy with a halo."
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    72. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      If Elon wants to expose his ding dong in Hong Kong, he can have at it.

      That's completely missing the point. The issue is that it has become almost mandatory for women in some professions, and they can't avoid being judged by their bodies in others.

      Sure, models and sexworkers. My wife, in the construction business world, always caught a lot of judgement ion the way she looks. Almost entirely from women, interestingly enough. But we aren't allowed to include women in this issue, the answer must be some problem that men are responsible for. So I'm not certain how that problem can be fixed.

      Even at my work, an attractive and intelligent and competent woman was brutalized - by other women. This never occurred to me until I looked at my female coworker and workplace friends and they almost all shared those qualities. They were pretty much cast out by the other females, and I enjoyed their ability to carry on intelligent conversations. I have a fine appreciation for female beauty, but don't select my friends on their looks. Yet here I was with a number of Amy Mainzer type friends. And it wasn't a friendzone thing either.

      I'm guessing you are not gay then.

      Anyway, as I say, it's not some puritanical thing about nudity, it's the way that women's bodies are exploited or distract from their other qualities that feminists object to.

      So how do we deal with porn for women? Or is it exploitation only if a male is looking?

      Certainly if you are going to be having heterosexual porn, there kinda needs to be a male in the mix. Is the woman the one being exploited? What about the male? we skirt pretty close to the concept of sex equals rape when we try to go down that road.

      What about feminine domination porn? Or how about Clothed female, nude male porn?

      Nude selfies? Feminist porn?

      We often hear that choice is important for women. Control over their own bodies. You know, I support that 100 percent. Where this starts getting weird is when the sex-negative feminists demand control over other women's bodies. Shouldn't the woman in the porn have some input? After all, it's her body on display. Some times along with a male who apparently isn't being exploited.

      This isn't even a big promotion of porn, just that Occam's razor is giving us a much better, simpler, and a bit more sinister an answer to the questions that must be asked.

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    73. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > No, the feminist position is that people shouldn't be violent to each other

      Bullshit. If that were true, they'd be out crusading to ban horror and action movies instead of porn. They don't care about violence, they really don't. "It's the sex, stupid!"

      Also, almost all the porn I've ever seen depicts men and women enjoying themselves, giving and receiving pleasure equally. There's a fetish niche for guys who like choking and abusing their partners, and I find that pretty disgusting, but it's far from the norm.

    74. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While you're sitting here mocking people on the internet, Jamal is nailing your wife.

      Ooooo, look someone is using 3rd grade come backs. The way we are going, I would expect retorts slowly degrade down to 'u r guy', eventually settling to grunts, armpit farts, and raspberries.

    75. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If course we can include women as part of the problem. That's why feminists trend to talk about it in terms of patriarchy. It includes women and acknowledges that they are often part of the problem, just like many women objected to suffrage and pretty much everything else.

      Feminist porn is fine because the participants are genuinely willing (not pressured into it) and because the sex is respectful.

      I don't like sex negative feminism either.

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    76. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IOW, "tits or GTFO!"

    77. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      although I think that males won't exist in a few hundred years, as human parthenogenesis will probably give rise to an all female humanity. We've already produced human embryos through parthenogenesis, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] so a major problem for women is going to go away in the not too distant future.

      Nonsense, who then will kill spiders and get heavy things off of shelves?

    78. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need anyone protecting me from mean tweets.

      i think you will change your mind once trump takes office...
      it's his tweets we will need protection from when he angers everyone.

    79. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How about one that traps for newspeak socjus terms with..."

      The Schoolyard gate was left open again; somebody from 4chan escaped...

    80. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, suffragists were saying ''if a black man can vote, why can't we?''

    81. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White knight exaggerating on the internet to defend the honor of every woman in the world. WHAT A SURPRISE
      No man has ever has his dick posted online without permission or been raped to death, nope, that only happens to frail women who need to be protected by big strong neckbeards such as yourself.

      Go tip into a fucking bin.

    82. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      incorrect: the femminist message is that woman need to be protected because they are superior

      i dont think they got that quite right, to be honest

    83. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are confusing feminism with female chauvinism.

      It's all right; lots of self-described "feminists" do the same thing.

    84. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      Oh that is such a good point, men do get raped and I am sure someone has had their dick posted online without their permission. Just like how last week it rained in California so there must not be a drought. It's all made up by the liberal media.

    85. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by skam240 · · Score: 1

      This "3rd wave" feminism is the extreme crazy fringe virtually every movement has. They've been there since the beginning and they are no more indicative of the broader movement than people showing up at Tea Party rallies flying racist Obama banners.

      In regards to people who want to latch on to what feminism's fringe movement is saying to redefine the word (It's stupid the number of Right wing females I've heard say "Now I'm not a feminist but (insert feminism)" they seem to fall into two categories as far as I've seen. The minority of them I feel just don't want female equality while the majority of them seem to just want something to be outraged about and what's easier to be outraged at then some fringe feminist who also wants to be outraged by everything.

      Basically this shit is stupid internet drama for people who want drama. The shit both sides rail on about that I've seen is crap in terms of broad context.

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    86. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's like saying that watching Lebron James play basketball is exploitative of him because you are only evaluating him based on his innate sporting talent and treating his body as a commodity.

      Mr. James, like the women in the magazine, choose to do this in exchange for money. It's their right.

      FFS.

    87. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      who gets naked to go to the bathroom?

      if someone tells you they are going to rape you to death, to your face, that's assault - a criminal offence, call the police.

    88. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if someone tells you they are going to rape you to death, to your face, that's assault - a criminal offence, call the police.

      No, assault is an actual attempt to harm you. What you're describing is typically called "terroristic threats" or something similar. It's still a crime, though.

    89. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      because now there are two things that aren't ok, which means there are many things that ARE ok and AREN'T ok, and no way to know the difference for all people.

      i don't understand why that is so hard a concept.

    90. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      swag is common at events like this. (aka free stuff to help entice people to come to things that are otherwise usually very droll)

    91. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      if someone tells you they are going to rape you to death, to your face, that's assault

      But it happens all the time on the internet and is rarely, if ever, investigated. Probably most threats on the internet are not credible, but how do you know? If you are a semi-public figure the internet because a risk-free way to threaten and harass you, with guaranteed no consequences.

    92. Re:Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupid by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      Holy shit lol, is your argument that we literally can't know which things are ok and not ok to do in a professional environment because there are too many possibilities? WHY CAN'T I JUST WAVE AROUND MY PENIS AT MY COWORKERS YOU ARE SUCH A NAZI

  6. Twitter outrage brigade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't we just ignore these social justices types already? They're worse than uptight conservatives from ages past.

    There's nothing wrong with handing out Playboys, especially in Germany. We're not as prude as that regressive bunch on Twitter.

  7. Playboy? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are just nude shots. They hire some great glamour photographers, and really, if you got a problem with Playboy, you need to put on your belt buckle Puritan hat and get a fucking grip - and go back to "marrying" you 12 year-old "wives".

  8. Pricipal Skinner quote by Kludge · · Score: 2

    "The shapely female form has no place in Art!"

  9. You're right by HBI · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    But the feminized SJWs here think that being whiny bitches about a magazine is their path to getting laid.

    Bad news, losers, it doesn't work.

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    1. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But the feminized SJWs here think that being whiny bitches about a magazine is their path to getting laid.

      Bad news, losers, it doesn't work.

      Another unintentionally revealing post.
      Those are the best kind.

    2. Re: You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That SJWs hate Playboy because they're fat and ugly? Not really, we already knew that.

    3. Re: You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are not a loon.

    4. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the feminized SJWs here think that being whiny bitches about a magazine is their path to getting laid.

      Bad news, losers, it doesn't work.

      Another unintentionally revealing post.
      Those are the best kind.

      You look at how hot Donald Trump's wives are? So he makes cracks about grabbing pussy - he gets to grab some great pussy. Literally.

      You think a metrosexual candy-ass sitzpinkler beta-male approach works?

      Go ahead - keep telling yourself that. You'll be a great friend to the girl who wants to fuck a real alpha male.

    5. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Donald Trump grabs great pussy

      No matter how much of a jackass you are, there will be someone willing to put up with it for millions of dollars.
      Even then, the stories of him getting the cold shoulder in the clubs of manhattan are legendary.
      You pathetic little red pillars living in your 1 bedroom apartments, driving broke-ass cars thinking being a jackass will get you laid.
      Sad!

    6. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sad thing here is that Trump only knows how to bark and is sexist by words only,
      while Hillary actually supports, and got financed by, Wahhabi regimes such as Saudi Arabia who actually torture, stone, kill women and actually do terrifying things to them and treat them like trash.
      Yet Trump is the bigger evil it seems. :|

    7. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > while Hillary actually supports, and got financed by, Wahhabi regimes

      Since you brought up Trump...

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211
      https://mic.com/articles/130070/here-are-some-of-donald-trump-s-middle-east-business-ventures

      Clinton took money from the saudis because they were giving it away.
      Trump does business with them.

    8. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clinton didn't just take money from them. Hillary has a long running support of cancerous Bush Jr.'s foreign policy, which includes supporting the Saudi regime staunchly and wanting it to remain as it is.
      Trump does business with everyone in the world, he doesn't deny it, that's what a businessman does.
      Hillary supports a regime that treats women like trash, yet is supported by feminists.
      The discrepancy is idiotic, and your statement doesn't do much to change anything in this argument.

    9. Re:You're right by lgw · · Score: 0

      You pathetic little red pillars living in your 1 bedroom apartments, driving broke-ass cars thinking being a jackass will get you laid.

      Doesn't "taking the red pill" in this context mean "no longer trying to get laid, thus depriving women of all power over you"? I don't understand all the MRA nonsense, but that part seemed clear.

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    10. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hillary has a long running support of cancerous Bush Jr.'s foreign policy, which includes supporting the Saudi regime staunchly and wanting it to remain as it is.

      Along with everyone else in the entire federal government

      Trump does business with everyone in the world, he doesn't deny it, that's what a businessman does.

      Nobody said he denies it. And "doing what a businessman does" is no excuse. Not all businessmen do business with the saudis.

      All you've got is the same old bitch-hunt logic that whatever clinton does is de facto evil, hypocritical and corrupt because she's a bitch.

    11. Re:You're right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who pays attention to the red pillars see right through that rationalization. They are desperate to get laid, they just can't figure out how to get there and so pretend they aren't trying. They are still doing exactly what they've done from the start though - being total jackasses.

  10. I fapped so hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fapped on stage and everyone cheered!

  11. When does something NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    draw criticism on Twitter?

  12. I'm laughing my ass off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    at least outside of large enterprise

    Large enterprise is the only thing that matters. There's a reason Acquia has consumed the entire fucking ecosystem, save for a few also-rans and a smattering of clueless development shops.

    something to fire SJWs up

    SJWs have already been a problem in Drupal, so I'll certainly agree there. But this isn't even SJW-level insanity.

    This is common fucking sense - you don't distribute porn like this, regardless of how long Playboy's been sucking at the Drupal teat.

    1. Re:I'm laughing my ass off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is common fucking sense - you don't distribute porn like this, regardless of how long Playboy's been sucking at the Drupal teat.

      Except, Playboy, even when it featured nude models, isn't porn. Nudity !== sex. Just because nude women appear on the pages does not automatically make it porn

  13. They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What exactly is misogynistic in Playboy?

    They only show gorgeous women, well used to. That makes them evil because it perpetuates the idea that this "look" is better. Please ignore the correlation between "looks" and genetic indicators of reproductive health that evolution causes us to look for.

    That said two interpretations of "used to" apply. (1) Used to show nudes. (2) Used to show more natural women, not so much surgically augmented.

    1. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Rei · · Score: 2

      Please ignore the correlation between "looks" and genetic indicators of reproductive health

      That would be a nice argument if there was some universal agreement on what is attractive. In some cultures, thin is attractive. In others, fat. Some places like women who stretch their necks out. Others like their feet bound to the point that they can hardly walk. In Meiji era Japan, it was seen as attractive for women to paint their teeth black. Do you find that hot? There is no single standard of beauty. You cannot just declare yours to be universally applicable.

      The majority of "beauty" traits have nothing to do with genetic indicators of reproductive health. That said, there are some. For example, for both sexes, "clear skin" is usually desirable, as that is an indicator of immune system fitness. And of course standard secondary sex characteristics, including having typical voice ranges appropriate to their sex, muscle mass in men, in women breasts and wide hips, etc. But the majority of the specific details that make up the "look" of an attractive man or woman versus other men and women in their society are simply cultural.

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    2. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Attractiveness, for whatever reason, is de-facto an indicator of reproductive potential.

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    3. Re:They only show gorgeous women by zapadnik · · Score: 1

      Great. You bang the fat chicks and leave the others to us. Sounds like we have a deal. And your repetition of Cultural Marxist memes will be deeply appreciated by the fat chicks, while the others just prefer real men who are confident and have no problem nor illusions with the mating game being the jungle rules it actually is.

      I'm not digging at you, I'm digging at the crazy memes. Accept reality - your genes want to reproduce and while there is some cultural variation of beauty, signs of unhealthiness (away from average) are repulsive to anyone not sufficiently indoctrinated to the Cultural Marxist memes flooding the developed World.

    4. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, which is unfortunate. The world in which our desires evolved is very different than the present world.

      A muscle-bound hunk is less likely to get rich than a scrawny nerd, and far more likely to cheat and bolt on parental responsibilities.
      Same goes for women: the perfectly-formed, made-up hottie is more likely to cheat and bolt, and less likely to invest in the cognitive skills that result in a successful and wealthy career.

      The best parents and mates are the not-so-attractive. The hotties that everyone wants are bad long-term investments, mostly because everyone wants them.

    5. Re:They only show gorgeous women by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      In summary:

      GP: long, well thought out post illustrated with relevant examples.
      You: YOUR RONG!111

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    6. Re:They only show gorgeous women by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not really, no. Wide hips indicate that a woman is likely to be able to bare children more easily, and have more of them. Youthful looks indicate, well, youth, which means more years of fertility left and more chance of surviving childbirth.

      Neither of those traits are universally accepted as attractive.

      Think about this. In many parts of the world breasts are no big deal. Women go around topless all the time. It's particularly common in parts of Africa and South America. Men there don't have the breast fetish that most men in cultures that cover breasts up do. In other words, such things are largely social constructs and biology has relatively little to do with it.

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    7. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      But the majority of the specific details that make up the "look" of an attractive man or woman versus other men and women in their society are simply cultural.

      But does that make the culture evil if one particular type of male or female is considered attractive?

      Even then, people who complain about whatever it is tht is popular have zero inhibitions about persecuting those who might fit that definition naturally. Like my wife. Slender, tall, and could have been a model but went into business instead. The amound of sheer hatred she has recieved from these poor women who are destroyed by just seeing her has been quite impressive. But that's not the mainpoint of my comments.

      Because believe it or not, there are people out there who prefer all kinds of body types, sothere's no need to get slender models banned form magazines.

      Some guys even like hevy women. One guy on my Hockey team liked girls ost of us considered fat. Penthouse Magazine featured rather curvy women. For some reason, women with absolutely huge buttocks are in style right now.

      Even different facial characteristics are appealing to different people. What floats our boats is not remotely universal ( which of course ties into your different cultures statement.

      Women - and it seems to be women mostly - who are angered by the sight of a woman who does not look like her, have other hangups than just getting angry that this woman is being objectified, or that males only like that kind of woman's physical traits.

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    8. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Attractiveness, for whatever reason, is de-facto an indicator of reproductive potential.

      We gotta get to work then.

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    9. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Great. You bang the fat chicks and leave the others to us.

      You do know a lot of guys like fat chicks don't you? I prefer mine tall, thin and long legged.

      And your repetition of Cultural Marxist memes will be deeply appreciated by the fat chicks, while the others just prefer real men who are confident and have no problem nor illusions with the mating game being the jungle rules it actually is.

      It really isn't cultural Marxism, it is women who have some serious issues and choose to consider men liking slender women as the source of those issues. Psychologists will tell us that people who have a ready target for their problem actually have a different source of the problem. It isn't men, it isn't tall slender women, it is an internal mental issue, not any political party affiliation.

      Accept reality - your genes want to reproduce and while there is some cultural variation of beauty, signs of unhealthiness (away from average) are repulsive to anyone not sufficiently indoctrinated to the Cultural Marxist memes flooding the developed World.

      I do think you are on to something here, just not the commie part. Let me explain. I have a really good sense of smell. And people smell different. I'm pretty darn certain that I'm not homosexual because I don't like the way guys smell. And those tall slender women I prefer? They smell extra good to me. From 10 feet away - no need to creep on them.

      And I'm not talking about unwashed body odor or perfume, I just mean a clean inherent smell. All women smell good, and they physical type I'm most attracted to smells best - to me.

      Now most people don't have such a sensitive sniffer, but I'll bet they are still sensing what smells good even if they don't consciously or actively notice it.

      And there ya have it - chemical attraction - a conjectural explanation for why different men like different types of women. Could be wrong, but maybe the nose knows.

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    10. Re:They only show gorgeous women by zapadnik · · Score: 1

      I agree that all sorts of chemicals, not just the famous pheromones, are detectable by the sexes. However, despite your gift of olfactory sensitivity, a lot of factors go into the mix of attraction - particularly for women, who seem to have a lot more complex set of desiderata when mating. This makes sense, given the level of commitment required on their part for the continuation of the species.

      With regard to the 'Cultural Marxism' bit. Many people don't comprehend this fully. The Cultural Marxists did not invent the feminists crazies, what they did do is notice that matched their agenda of Critical Theory and then handed a megaphone over. This is why the blue haired freaks foam at the mouth at 'mansplaining' but deliberately ignore Sharia clitorectomies and other barbarities, and when pressed will actually *defend* Islamic misogyny. The 'feminism' is what the rank and file believe, but the reality is that 3rd Wave Feminism is not about equality but about Cultural Marxist Critical Theory to demoralize Western resistance to Marxist revolution (as ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov explains, a pair of talks you can dial up on YouTube if you want to understand why feminism attacks fictitious misogyny in the West and defends real misogyny elsewhere). This is not an accident. This is why the media highlights certain narrative and completely ignores others. Just so you know :)

    11. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I agree that all sorts of chemicals, not just the famous pheromones, are detectable by the sexes. However, despite your gift of olfactory sensitivity, a lot of factors go into the mix of attraction - particularly for women, who seem to have a lot more complex set of desiderata when mating. This makes sense, given the level of commitment required on their part for the continuation of the species.

      Well, I didn't say they thought I was worthy. Just giving a possibility for the diffrent attractions, and that they happen to line up in my case. I probably have the stability and monetary possessions that many like, but I'm not looking.

      Quote>

      With regard to the 'Cultural Marxism' bit. Many people don't comprehend this fully. The Cultural Marxists did not invent the feminists crazies, what they did do is notice that matched their agenda of Critical Theory and then handed a megaphone over.

      And it is failing miserably. The entire social project of demonization of males has reaped the reward of men giving up on the idea of relationships with women. While the crazies are obviously kooky, even the typical modern young lady has become a little difficult to be around. If I was a present day young male, I would be concentrating on my career. This is a risk/reward issue.

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    12. Re:They only show gorgeous women by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      In Meiji era Japan, it was seen as attractive for women to paint their teeth black. Do you find that hot?

      Yeah, actually, although it is might be an acquired taste. The whole color-scheme of the face probably needs to change.

      I agree with your point though, what is thought of as attractive can change dramatically even within a few years.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    13. Re:They only show gorgeous women by zapadnik · · Score: 1

      The problem with MGTOW is that society needs to reproduce to survive. As the great Mark Steyn saysm "The future belongs to those who show up for it". The First World are not having children at replacement rates. Perhaps the West-hating Left intended this as a result of abortion and feminism, but possibly not - perhaps that is just another unintended hideous side-effect of their stupid ideology.

      There are decent and realistic women out there. They just don't get any coverage. Men should choose wisely (as should women).

    14. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully they are smart enough to not sleep and reproduce with you.

      Getting women control of their bodies, safe abortions if needed, and cheap birth control normalized and easily available around the world is how the entire planet should slow down the plague of humans infecting the planet.

    15. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      OK genius, explain peacocks.

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    16. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      See my reply to your sockpuppet.

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    17. Re:They only show gorgeous women by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      OK, sure. Humans are peacocks so that everything that applies to peacocks applies in exactly the same way to humans.

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    18. Re:They only show gorgeous women by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I don't have any, so you are going to have to specify who you replied to.

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    19. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      You can't reproduce with an airbrush.

    20. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The problem with MGTOW is that society needs to reproduce to survive.

      Of course. Its other problem is is is mostly populated by bitter fucks.

      As well, the decision to change one's focus in life from pursuing a couple arrangement and reproduction to other things is done on a personal level, not a social one. The grand experiment may indeed destroy our society, very slowly, as males drop out.

      There are decent and realistic women out there. They just don't get any coverage.

      Of course there are. Problem is, if you choose wrong, you are screwed. In the not fun way. Given the divorce rate, I fugure the odds of that are somewhat better than even (based on a plausible guess that some men stay in a messed up marriage ) that it's a bad choice.

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    21. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Hopefully they are smart enough to not sleep and reproduce with you.

      Wouldn't that be a win/win situation for women then? If I was a young male, they wouldn't have to be smart enough, because I wouldn't even attempt to sleep with or attempt to reproduce, so I would not bother any woman one bit.

      Getting women control of their bodies, safe abortions if needed, and cheap birth control normalized and easily available around the world is how the entire planet should slow down the plague of humans infecting the planet.

      I was waiting for someone to try to change this from you say this, so you are that soundbite ideology.

      Women should have all of that. My point is not that I would want any of that removed from the rights of women. This is just a risk/reward analysis - a prudent person does this. I did a risk/reward analysis on Ice Hockey. It won, so I play. I did a risk/reward analysis on wingsuit gliding. It lost rather badly.

      So if I were a young male today, my risk/reward analysis on marriage and having children wouldn't lose as badly as climbing into a wingsuit and jumping out of a plane, but it would still tell me that the risk is not worth the reward. When things go wrong, they go badly wrong for me.

      And is there supposed to be something wrong with that?

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    22. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > That makes them evil because it perpetuates the idea that this "look" is better.

      Oh, lordy! We can't have *ideas* we disagree with out there! That might bring about the end of civilization!

    23. Re:They only show gorgeous women by zapadnik · · Score: 1

      Thanks for posting. You have made some excellent points - and your first post was fascinating. I've heard of extremely good eyesight before but not really considered some people have smell as their exceptional super-power :)

    24. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking from experience?

    25. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Great. You bang the fat chicks and leave the others to us.

      I live in the USA, so that means more for me! w00t w00t!! Hmm, maybe more than I can handle actually... :(

    26. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The point I was disagreeing with is that attractive features derive from their utility; like long legs for running.

      It only takes one counter-example to disprove it, and I provided one. Have a look at deer antlers if you need another.

      As to why you think humans are somehow "special", you're scraping the bottom of the barrel there, pal. Pathetic.

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    27. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whom, paki-boy.

    28. Re:They only show gorgeous women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorayama gets about as close as is humanly possible! ^_^

  14. Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by Nova+Express · · Score: 1, Troll

    ...if it succeeds in keeping Social Justice Warriors away.

    If it works there, then we can expand the process to science fiction conventions...

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    http://www.lawrenceperson.com/

    1. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      wouldn't work now, when I was a kid we'd joke about people who only read Playboy for the articles, but now it only has the articles. Because erotic photography featuring the disgusting ugly protoplasm that is the nude female body is eviiiiiil !!!!!!

      nice websites with the photos from the 1950s to now are out there, free. Your search engine of choice is your friend.

    2. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't understand. This doesn't keep them away. It draws them in. Those who are always looking for something to be outraged over must seek out new sources for their outrage.

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      Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
    3. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get some German (or French, or...) Playboys then. There is a world beyond your borders, Puritan.

    4. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by zapadnik · · Score: 0

      Yessssssss. tech conferences only for those with truly open minds. The 'pearl clutching' SJWs loons are only there to ruin things based on their unstable mental state du jour. So, 'Playboy is to SJWs as garlic is to vampires' ? I better 'arm up'.

    5. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      that's a funny thing to say into a guy into porn from asia

    6. Re:Hand out Playboys at every tech conference... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Erotic photography is also unprofitable. You can't compete with the internet, which has a lot more such photos and a near-zero distribution cost. Playboy today is a shadow of what it was. 800,000 issues in 2015, down from a peak of 7,100,000. Much of their income comes from just licensing out their logo.

  15. They are no more than a vanity/travel mag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new issues have zero things to do with naked women. What's wrong with people?

    Oh, I get it, special snowflakes.

  16. Fire up SJWs, make my day by mi · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...from a PR standpoint [...] something to fire SJWs up

    If Donald Trump's electoral victory has taught us anything, it is that gleefully sticking it to the SJWs is a good PR-move.

    I, for one, simply enjoy them watching them froth about human traits. They've been trying to shame us all into suppressing them for too long.

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    1. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I, for one, simply enjoy [watching SJWs] froth about human traits. They've been trying to shame us all into suppressing them for too long.

      There are plenty of human traits that we suppress with laws. Traits like violence (which can cause injury or death), negligence (see violence), avarice (which can cause theft), and so on.

      There are other human traits whose consequences do not rise to the level required to suppress with laws, but they are discouraged through social mores and codes of conduct. Traits like impatience (which causes people to butt into lines or disrupt public gatherings), gratification (which leads to people doing things that disturb others in their presence, like farting or smoking), and so on.

      And there are other human traits that may be offensive to some, but we agree collectively to tolerate nonetheless. Traits like self-validation (which can lead to a talker trapping you in a conversation), or stubbornness (which limits what you can accomplish in a relationship with someone.)

      Whether we decide to suppress, discourage, or tolerate a particular human trait comes down to what extent the exercise of that trait can cause harm to others.

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    2. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump's election taught us that this is popular among stupid angry morons that thinks tabloids are good journalists.
      I shouldn't have to say it, but we're not talking about censoring playboy, or saying it is shameful to look at pictures of naked models. Just that this is not something that should happen in a BUSINESS setting.

    3. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In first-past-the-post politics you only need a minority of people to vote for you. In business you need to care about the majority.

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    4. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... gleefully sticking it to the SJWs is a good PR-move.

      A lot people disliked what Trump was saying, so I think the poor behaviour of the Democrat party, caused people to vote against Clinton, not for Trump. The election also demonstrated the "wasted vote" delusion needs to end; every name on the ballot is a contender.

    5. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by NaiveBayes · · Score: 1

      >In business you need to care about the majority.

      The majority of what? The majority of the US population? The majority of the Earth's population?

      Business work by finding an audience/market and catering to them. The focus is on keeping that group happy and buying your product, whether they be a small niche or a massive group.

      If an issue is likely to divide that group you appeal to, it's best to stay away from it generally. (this specific issue probably fits vaguely into this category, while not making a huge statement or gigantically controversial, its still likely to generate some argument within their audience and probably best avoided).

      However if your market largely agrees on an issue, and your marketing can play to that issue but is likely to offend a completely different group, then in a strictly business sense you should press on with that marketing campaign and increase sales (unless you plan to one day expand your market to include that different group)

    6. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just that this is not something that should happen in a BUSINESS setting.

      To be fair, Drupal isn't something that should be used in a business setting either.

    7. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      In business you need to care about the majority.

      Too bad many businesses are happier to cater to those screaming ctrl-leftists, and ignore those in the majority. Then again, with the gaming press it sure back fired on them. All those people who published the "gamers are dead" articles are no longer in the industry and the sites that pushed it all have had a significant drop in traffic and have yet to recover. Several of those sites lost so much traffic that they were killed by their parent company. One can also see this with "The Red Pill" documentary here in Canada, a theater decided to bow to the almighty feminist horde and withdraw a screen rental. Their sales have already dropped 30%

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    8. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by mi · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of human traits that we suppress with laws.

      Sure. And have for hundreds of thousands of years.

      But the so called SJWs seek new things to suppress — like the desire by males of the species to see the nubile females.

      As well as the desire by the females to be seen...

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    9. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hundreds of thousands

      Grr, make that an "and".

    10. Re:Fire up SJWs, make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well put, thanks!

  17. What revelation? by HBI · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    That you are a pussy? We already knew that...

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    HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
    1. Re:What revelation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character."

      Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    2. Re: What revelation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you quote other people because you're too stupid to have an original thought?

    3. Re: What revelation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you try to score points against ACs?

    4. Re:What revelation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      R Waldo Emerson wrote erotic poems about male schoolmate he was attracted to in college. Write hundreds of poems and essays, give 1500 lectures and you are a great writer and speaker. Write hundreds of poems and essays, give 1500 lectures and want to suck one cock, and you're just another goddamn faggot and no one cares what you think.

    5. Re:What revelation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yet another unintentional confession of character.

  18. Women read Playboy too by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are you you some kind of anti-LGBT freak or victorian prude? Lots of women enjoy female nudity.

    They should have included a copy of Playgirl magazine also, then it would have been even more equanimous. Taking out the magazine was the wrong thing to do.

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    1. Re:Women read Playboy too by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      They should have included a copy of Playgirl magazine also

      I REALLY want something like this to happen one day. I wonder what the comments on that slashdot article would be like...

    2. Re:Women read Playboy too by hene · · Score: 1

      They should have included a copy of Playgirl magazine also,

      I'm not against the Playgirl magazine but are they really obligated to please everybody? This ideology is so obviously dead end. It's not like someone doesn't know what Playboy is. If you don't like it, toss it out. I unwillingly see more nudity every day than what Playboy contains.

    3. Re:Women read Playboy too by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call it obligation so much as a nod to the majority of people's sexual interests, regardless of gender. Tactically it would be a way to remove all grounds for complaint by all but the most fringe and unreasonable people, whose complaints would hurt themselves much more than the organization handing out magazines.

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  19. Where most are too fat, thin is in. Where starving by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > . In some cultures, thin is attractive. In others, fat.

    Specifically, in cultures in which the majority of people are overweight, where obesity-related causes such as heart disease are the most common causes of death, thinner than average tends to be a) healthier and b) generally considered attractive. In cultures in which food is scarce and malnutrition is a widespread problem, being heavier than the average starving peon is a) healthier and b) generally considered attractive.

    Some people enjoy an excess of whatever is physically good, as if their libido thinks "if some is good, more is better". A plentiful supply of milk is good for reproductive odds, some guys enjoy very large breasts (where medium is sufficient); if a lot of people are malnourished thicker is healthier, and to some people very thick is very attractive.

    Fashions vary, but standards of what turns people on is more the same across cultures than is different. (Especially when you factor in that "healthier than average weight" is the criteria - that may be thicker or thinner, depending on if the average is obese or malnourished).

  20. Yeah, sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Playboy has been in extremely bad taste ever since they lamified themselves into a Maxim-level cheesecake purveyor. Used to be a great magazine. Now it's just... offensive.

  21. It's an issues because idiotic double-think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know what you're doing when you tell people it's not okay to be nude, or show nudity, or that their informed, consensual expressions and/or informed, consensual sexual actions aren't suitable for any reason?

    You're forcing someone to comply with the sexual issues you choose without their consent. Which should sound very familiar. It's not okay to force yourself on someone else's sexuality. It never was; it never will be.

    It's also not okay, never was, and never will be, to expect that in the public square, you should be saved from seeing or hearing anything that you might not like. There should never exist a public "right not to be offended" and frankly, anyone who thinks such a thing should exist ihas lost their mind to abject stupidity.

    The mindset here is one of applying non-consensual force to others to satisfy very particular agendas, Sick people, doing sick things. Playboy's okay. Interfering with people's freedom coercively is not.

    1. Re: It's an issues because idiotic double-think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem so sure of yourself. Give out a bunch of Playboy's to ladies at your office and see how far that gets you.

    2. Re: It's an issues because idiotic double-think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sure of myself. I'm only interested in ladies that are sure of themselves. I'm not interested in neurotic women. Nor do I chase women just for the sake of doing so. That's why I've been with the same wonderful woman for two decades — because she knows who she is, is confident and comfortable with both her own sexuality and mine.

      It's no fun at all pretending to be someone you aren't in order to coddle someone's insecurities. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

  22. People need to chill by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, people need to chill out. When absolutely everything gets you offended, really your offendedness is meaningless.

    1. Re:People need to chill by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Your non offensiveness is offensive.

      --
      Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
    2. Re:People need to chill by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Really, people need to chill out. When absolutely everything gets you offended, really your offendedness is meaningless.

      Yeah, sure, but to be fair, I think the "offence" this time was over the inclusion of a rather non-descript magazine, whose main selling point was the vaguely pornographic pictures, to an audience, whose main interest is somewhat removed from idle chit-chat. Playboy's core customers have always been the stupid rich, who think Las Vegas is an exciting holiday destination, that middle-aged men in glittery suits singing Sinatra songs are the height of cool, and who think that smoking cigars is sophisticated. We'll look at nude photos any ime of the day, but Playboy is or management types in suits. If they wanted to please a crowd of nerds, it might have worked better to include a graphical novel (or whatever the better class of cartoons are called) or a reprint of some of the more interesting comics from a byegone age. My favourites are the early editions of "The Broons" which are written in a very crinkly sort of Scots English.

    3. Re: People need to chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get offended if you DON'T get offended !!!!!! hehehe

    4. Re: People need to chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Normal sexual attraction is not perversion, it's, well, normal. That's not to say it's always appropriate to express it, but what's really perverse is suppressing it or telling people it's evil to have lustful feelings.

      And here's a heads-up for you ladies: when there are any other people around, males or females, in public or in private, your ass is being ogled. Large or small, round or flat, saggy or tight, you can rest assured someone is taking a look - probably right now as you read this, or the moment you get up. Deal with it.

    5. Re:People need to chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are so out of touch with reality it's astounding.
      Not surprising, since it appears you've never thumbed through anything more complex than a graphic novel.
      Have fun living in that bubble.

    6. Re:People need to chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you just sexually harass me?

    7. Re:People need to chill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need to generalize, I have not seen anyone object to any other magazines in the bag. Why do you think "everything" gets people offended? And if you mean "pictures of nude women handed out at a technology congress", then yes, I understand why that might offend people.

  23. Hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's great and all but do white women even have a right to whine about things like these?
    Let's check the white woman privilege:
    White men do the dying and blood-letting during the days of colonization to steal a lot of resources,
    while white women only need wait in the comfort of home for all those resources to come on a platter, free and without any effort exerted.
    Out of those resources:
    - The majority of precious metals, gems, diamonds, went into the jewelry that adorn white women.
    - The majority of hides, leather, silk, went into the purses, shoes, clothing of white women.
    - The majority of wood and plants, went into the boxes and the makeup they hold for white women.
    - The majority of quality and luxury wood went into the furnishing and senseless ornamentation for white women.
    White men die, while white women laugh at home waiting for the exploited resources to be brought on a platter.
    Incidentally, white women happen to be the most wasteful collective in the world in terms of resources. They use and waste so many goods and resources.
    Additionally white men die on the job at least 10 times more than white women.

    Seems like privilege is extraordinarily swayed towards white women.
    What business do white women have in feminism? Oh i know. The best way to evade paying your due bill to the victims of exploitation over the centuries, to postpone it, is to use some fundamentalist childish tools like "feminism" as a smokescreen and curtain.
    Feminism seems to be a cover for White Woman Elitism these days.
    The elite class that benefited the most with the least amount of effort, which doesn't want to part with a single penny but would rather devise tactics for why it should be given even more, which also has a habit of banning any criticism of it to a religious level.
    Western white women.

  24. Playboy counts as a technical magazine? by Knuckles · · Score: 2

    From TFS:

    "were provided by Burda, a major German publisher, who also provided other technical magazines as part of their sponsorship.

    --
    "When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
  25. Re:SJW's give us minorities a bad rap; I'm sick of by cryptizard · · Score: 1

    There are going to be people that say things or publish things you find distasteful. If you don't like it don't partake in that activity/event/business/group/etc.

    Are you under the impression that when people get offended they somehow have legal power to make you stop saying the offensive thing? They are fighting speech with speech. What mental gymnastics do you have to jump through to believe that people should be able to say the things you agree with but then when people don't like those things they are not allowed to argue back?

  26. Re: Where most are too fat, thin is in. Where star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No,you have it wrong- obesity is not necessarily a direct risk factor for heart disease, and breast size has nothing to do with milk production....might want to try a little research rather than broadcast your imagination.....

  27. no coment, I don't like playboy by JasaPembuatanWebIDpr · · Score: 1

    Nice post, but no coment, I don't like playboy

  28. Re: Ok with porn or not, that was genuinely stupi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Women*

    Exdit: typo.

  29. Re:Where most are too fat, thin is in. Where starv by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    > . In some cultures, thin is attractive. In others, fat.

    Specifically, in cultures in which the majority of people are overweight, where obesity-related causes such as heart disease are the most common causes of death, thinner than average tends to be a) healthier and b) generally considered attractive

    Yet who is considered to be ultimate hot right now? Kim Kardashian, whom I considered to be about as sexy as a side of pork. But a fair number of guys like that look with enormous buttocks and a lot of fat. And that's okay, people like what they like. But it sure as hell isn't a one size fits all world.

    What I'm waiting for is demands for ugly modles so that ugly women don't feel put out. I'll bet that is coming. Why not? If Barbie can cause a girl to become bulimic, and if slender models make normal women feel inadequate, there are unattractive women out there who must be devastated every time they open a fashion catalog and see a pretty woman.

    --
    The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  30. BadBads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gawdsakes women don't have tits & ass ... they have badbads.

  31. Just wrong time and place by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Just wrong time and place - remember the ridiculous storm in a teacup over a bare nipple at the superbowl?
    The same sort of fuss applies here.

  32. The articles are great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't that the saying when people get caught watching it?

    "Oh I only read it for the articles."

  33. "other technical magazines" by swell · · Score: 1

    "German publisher, who also provided other technical magazines"

    There do seem to be some in the slashdot crowd for whom Playboy content would be considered technical information. Read and learn young code warrior! The world is a better place for men and for women when you grasp these principles.

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
  34. Ratios and symmetry are "universal" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please ignore the correlation between "looks" and genetic indicators of reproductive health

    That would be a nice argument if there was some universal agreement on what is attractive.

    I recall seeing some documentary where they showed there are in fact universal preferences. One was the ratios between chest/waste/hips. Some societies scaling up and some scaling down, yet the ratios amazingly consistent. The other preference was for symmetry in facial and body features.

    Others like their feet bound to the point that they can hardly walk ...

    Now you've moved away from biology and refer to a desire to socially conform. While that also exists it is something separate from innate biological attractiveness like ratios and symmetry. Again, the later suggesting genetic health. Feet bound as a child offer no such indication, just that her parents taught here to be submissive to an extreme.

  35. making headline news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is more important than anything else. Reasons don't matter.

    If it can be done cheaply/for free simply by dropping a magazine paid for by others into some bags - all the better.

  36. Cheapskates by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    They could at least go the traditional route and hire scantily clad booth babes to piss people off. Women with huge breasts need jobs too, you know.

  37. PHP teh suXX0rz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, 200+ comments and not a single troll shouting about PHP sucks, it's an abomination, no true Scotsman would even touch it, etc.

    What the hell has happened to Slashdot??

  38. Respect isn't negated by lust by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    I have a great deal of respect for women. It turns out that if you are a man, no matter how much you respect a woman, you still want to have sex with the hot ones.

    One way to show them respect is to make sure they get their cookies too. The idea that lust equals disrespect is perpetuated by people who never have had sex with a woman they respect.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    1. Re:Respect isn't negated by lust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never quite understood the competitive attitude of other guys toward sex, like it's a contest to nail the hottest girl at the party and you get points everytime you "score."

      I'm much more the sensitive, lovey-dovey '70s let's-get-it-on type, but I also understand one size doesn't fit all. Some people treat sex strictly as recreation, and use other people for their own pleasure. As long as both parties consent, let 'em go at it. Who am I to say that's wrong?

      Reminds me of when Chris Elliott found out on Get a Life that his girlfriend didn't really love him.

      Are you saying that you just used me like a piece of common, household cheese?

  39. Chunky by Hylandr · · Score: 1

    "Dunno about you, but I only read playboy.de for the Drupal code."

    Anyone else just throw up?

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    ~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
  40. Playboy is now SFW by iamacat · · Score: 1

    They found that there is plenty of pr0n on Internet and people really want to read it for the articles, but can't at work. PC police strikes again!

  41. Donglegate II? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just imagine if they'd given out free dongles.

    The SJW's wouldn't rest until Drupal had been stomped flat into the ground!

  42. The real mistake by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    When you have a name like "Drupal", you don't want to be associated with sex at all.