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Pregnancy Alters Woman's Brains 'For At Least Two Years' (bbc.com)

EzInKy writes: The BBC and others are reporting the results of a study that women's brains do in fact change during pregnancy. BBC reports: "Pregnancy reduces grey matter in specific parts of a woman's brain, helping her bond with her baby and prepare for the demands of motherhood. Scans of 25 first-time mums showed these structural brain changes lasted for at least two years after giving birth. European researchers said the scale of brain changes during pregnancy were akin to those seen during adolescence. But they found no evidence of women's memory deteriorating. This study, from researchers at the Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona and Leiden University and published in Nature Neuroscience, looked at the brain scans of women before they became pregnant, soon after they gave birth, and two years later, to see how the brain changed. And they compared these women's brains with those of 19 first-time fathers, 17 men without children and 20 women who had never given birth. The researchers found 'substantial' reductions in the volume of grey matter in the brains of first-time mothers. The grey matter changes occurred in areas of the brain involved in social interactions used for attributing thoughts and feelings to other people -- known as 'theory-of-mind' tasks. The researchers thought this would give new mothers an advantage in various ways - help them recognize the needs of their child, be more aware of potential social threats and become more attached to their baby." Thanks Mom! As for first-time fathers, the researchers found no changes in their grey matter.

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  1. Oh well... by x0ra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So much for the feminazis out there claiming that there is no difference between a male and female brain, and that what constitute gender is nothing but a social construct.

    1. Re:Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      dude, try to keep up.

      it's old hat that the female brain is the base, the male brain is an altered female brain.

      get it?

    2. Re:Oh well... by x0ra · · Score: 1

      I'd rather say "specialized", rather than "altered".

    3. Re:Oh well... by x0ra · · Score: 1, Troll

      Btw, the concept of transgenderism is a total negation of gender as a social construct's theory, as it is rooted into the belief that there is such thing as a male brain into a female body, which requires the existance of such a "male" or "female" brain to begin with. So on this point of view, feminazi are illogical with themselves.

    4. Re:Oh well... by x0ra · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If there was no feminazi, Brianna Wu, Anita Sarkeesian, Zoë Quinn, or even freebsdgirl wouldn't spur their venom trying to forbid the games I have fun to play with.

    5. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nice flamebait. First of all, there are no Feminazi's

      No? You should let them know this. They exist, some of them are such shitty people that they've made it to meme status like big red there.

      That derogatory term is mostly used by male chauvinists who want to enforce old fashioned gender -roles-. There are feminists, and they hold various ideas about equality.

      You mean like the feminists out there that push that women should have nice cushy jobs in offices because "equality" while they don't push them into the nice shitty jobs where you're likely to be killed? You know, fishing, mining and so on. Or those nice shitty well paying jobs that are simply shitty jobs?

      Strange that I remember the big feminist push in the late 80's and early 90's to drive men out of teaching here in the west too(fyi it's now so bad in parts of western countries that men make up less then 8% of teaching staff). They were the original source of the "men are rapists and not safe with children" bit. Then there's the "teach men not to rape" bullshit to boot. But we'll just gloss over the 20-40% rate of women(varies by sexual preference) who are rapists, or that they get much lighter sentence. Usually 1/3 of the sentence of what a man would, even against a minor. What? You didn't know that there were female pedophile rapists? Not even touching stuff like the rape and murders committed by Bernardo and Homolka. FYI she was the instigator in those 30+ cases, and was the one picking the victims.

      no feminist ever said that men and woman were created biologically identical.

      You should pay more attention to the bullshit being pushed. You can even find it from the flappy headed ideology books that they push these days. There's even a huge bunch of bullshit by feminists trying to drive sexual dimorphism as "sexist." Yeah, google that one and weep at the attempts to destroy science.

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    6. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Funny, others would say it's a body disorder.

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    7. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And who gives a shit about their opinion?

      Just look at the whole "the sky is falling" bull around violent video games and how they're the root of all evil and the cause for all school revenges, sorry, killing sprees. And? Does that mean that FPS don't get made anymore?

      Please. Let them rant, as long as they do they at least don't harm anyone.

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    8. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      In Israel there was an interesting case a few years ago. An adult woman called Riki Ovadia had invited 10-13 year olds to her apartment to have sex, repeatedly. Feminists actually insisted that the kids "took advantage" of her.

      That's been the case for defense in several high-profile female rapist cases in the US over the last couple of years. Then there's the absolute bat shit insanity that you see which spawns groups like Megalia which violently attack people who refuse to fall in line. Yes kids, that is a feminist group. Best descriptor? Take feminism, add a dash of antifa, heavy sprinkling of racism and racial superiority, with a dose of insanity. Other things include planned attack against men in cafe's using antifreeze(poisoning). Desire and planning of sexual assaults of children(mainly male). On the other hand, if you're white? Well that's okay with their brand--you're the only acceptable ones.

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    9. Re:Oh well... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them."
      -- Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman

      This is a feminazi. I can't believe you're so ignorant as to be unaware of these horrid deplorable people and their malignant beliefs. I also notice you very quickly react with venom and hate for the dissident. Enjoying making people feel like shit is another characteristic of the feminazi. You ever look at yourself to see what you look like from the outside?

      "Also, as a rule of thumb, if you find yourself defending your inalienable right to make someone else feel like garbage, you're on the wrong side of the argument."
      -- Rich Burlew, author of Order of the Stick

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    10. Re:Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're one of those idiot males claiming to be "out-equaled".

      Come back when either (a) men get raped out there as often as women or (b) women get raped as seldomly as men (as a man I'd clearly prefer (b), mind you).

      Come back when the average earnings for equal jobs are equal for women and men.

      *Then* you are entitled to complain. Wait for a couple of generations (gosh, I wish we were there already).

      Oh gawd, an "equal pay" twit.

      Come back when women are physically able to play in the NFL or NBA. THEN you can claim "equality".

      Oh wait, did REALITY just bitch-slap you?!?!

    11. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Please. Let them rant, as long as they do they at least don't harm anyone.

      Yeah, not in the least. We saw jackasses like Jack Thompson get some sway with the trendy fucks in the industry last time. We're seeing it again with Sarkeesian and her ilk, and the trendy fucks in the industry again. This is the garbage that eventually gets spawned out of it. Gamers on the other hand? They don't like identity politics being pushed into their medium. Just a FYI to anyone who's' reading, the stuff being pushed in the GI.biz article is the same BS that was pushed by people like Leigh Alexander. Another adherent to the "but muh progressiveness look at muh virtue signaling..." which lead to the death of her career.

      The whole progressive identity politics virtue signaling bullshit usually kills whatever it attaches to. It's doing a great job of killing comic books, it did a great job of killing atheism for a while until there was a push back. It attempted it in video games and failed, but they're still trying.

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    12. Re:Oh well... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      It's cool to be this angry about gender. Really fucking cool. lol... "feminazi".

      You're a fucking spastic mate. I hope trannies and feminists keep you angry a long, long time.

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    13. Re:Oh well... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Ethics. Gaming journalism. Neckbeards. Moaning, whinging, cunts.

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    14. Re:Oh well... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      The reason you think the NBA, or NFL have anything to do with anything in this context is this: you're a fucking idiot.

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    15. Re:Oh well... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Yeah but they said something bad about his games. So, y'know.

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    16. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Come back when the average earnings for equal jobs are equal for women and men.

      They are equal. There's even laws that ensure it. If a man is working in an office tapping away at a keyboard, and a women is doing exactly the same job. If those two same people are working in a mine busting rocks and transporting them around, they're also being paid the same.

      Now, lets toss in that women take more time off then men for sickness. So we'll see a drop in wages. Now, they'll also take time off for pregnancy, and we'll see a drop. Now let's consider that a man will be more likely to take OT, or work longer hours. Now they're not being paid the same. Sorry, this isn't a communist-marxist utopia where people are paid for work they don't do.

      But let's flip it around. How about the cases in Australia and the UK where women are being paid more then men doing the same jobs. Outraged yet? No? You should be, that's overt sexism.

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    17. Re: Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ohhhh, you're a Gamergater. That explains everything.

      If by that you mean it explains the poster is aware that certain people behaved in unethical, deceptive, and malicious ways to promote themselves and their work, the latter of which was a failure in the actual market, all the while using made up claims of sexism to try to silence their critics, then yeah, being a gamergater explains everything.

    18. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      20%-40% of women are rapists? Wow. Nutter detected. I get it, you hate women, but you are a nutjob.

      Couldn't read huh? That's okay I'll use small words so you get it. The "total" incidence count by country is that women make up around 8-10%. Some countries are as high as 15% -- though some studies show that the count could be as high as 30% of rapists are female -- this is because of positive weighting for women by societies in general. Now we break down into particular predispositions for those assaults, and find that there's a different number. Kind of like this: M:F is a predominantly male crime, but F:M(child) is predominantly a female crime. But in other cases F:F(teen) women make up 30% of them, much like how M:M(teen) make up 8-14% It's similar to the domestic violence numbers, where you see things like 8-20% M:F but 58% F:F or 65% of M:M cases of DV.

      But if you want to get into the interesting bit, you can look at the NISVS study which showed that women accounted for 40% of all rape cases. That's the female being the instigator -- then we can get into the interesting stuff and go from there. Feminists of course love to dispute the number, but then again male rape is such a hugely unreported crime and that's directly due to the social stigma.

      Enjoying criminology yet?

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    19. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A) This doesn't prove that there is a difference, because the male brain was not subjected to the same stimulus (9 months of pregnancy, childbirth, feeding the child etc.)

      B) Feminists don't claim that there is no difference between the male and female brains, just that in most cases where the differences are claimed to matter, they really don't.

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    20. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Well except that we have 20+ years with huge sample sizes(including several that had 10k+ participants), showing no statistical change in belief, action, desire, or anything else. The most that one study has shown is that there was a "short" term change on perception of devaluing a life -- as in under 30 minutes. Then again, going by your reasoning -- society is sexist because it values women more then men as a "valuable" asset to society itself.

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    21. Re:Oh well... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      lol. Nobody says that men and women are physically equal. You're a fucking idiot.

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    22. Re:Oh well... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      It was "so much for that" as soon as that idea started..... We already know from existing research into genetics that people of Male and Female genders have different chromosomes. Also, we can plainly observe different physical body characteristics.

      Aafter such obvious visible differences and differences over thousands of years of culture ----
      the Burden of Proof has always been on those who would claim a greater similarity or lack of difference to demonstrate that,
      AND regarding "Gender is a superficial distinction / Both are arbitrary or basically the same"; nobody has ever shown anything like that.

    23. Re:Oh well... by gtall · · Score: 1

      I see. So your argument is, more or less, that advertising doesn't sway people despite all the studies that say it does?

    24. Re:Oh well... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Persistent transgenderism is a dysphoria/mental anomaly because the body is healthy and contains the sex selected by chromosomes, except in rare cases of abnormal chromosomes, the body is a perfectly healthy body of the sex that the brain developed not wanting to have: the body just doesn't appeal to what the mind came to believe or desire; it's possible an abnormal development caused the mind to develop believing or yearning for something else.

      It is just like being born with blond hair and blue eyes and being unable to mentally live with this, since you wanted to be a Red-Haired Brown-eyed person, also, you were dissatisfied with being 1.2 feet taller than average and 50 fewer IQ points than the average person.

      Gender just does have higher behavioral and cultural significance than some of those other things.....

    25. Re:Oh well... by SlashDread · · Score: 1

      And whoever those people are, they have zero to do with this article. Im also pretty sure, that if I would to look up wtf you are talking about, Ill find a lot of misogyny, and perhaps a few loud mouthed females with (for you) radical ideas. Not "feminazi's".

      I for one, welcome our new load mouthed females. Perhaps they will counter weigh the foul mouthed males.

    26. Re:Oh well... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Does that mean the male brain is superior, being an evolved version of the female brain with more bits acting in concert to handle more-demanding intellectual problems; or that it is inferior, being a hobbled version with bits weakened and disconnected so as to interfere with cognition?

    27. Re:Oh well... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Tnansgenderism is a mental disorder, probably rooted in depression. It was recognized as such by the DSM up until 5 minutes ago. Transgenders, even post-op and after hormones therapy, still have a 20x higher suicide rate than normal population.

      No, come on, don't sit on the fence like that, let us know what you really think.

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    28. Re:Oh well... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Money did not do the surgery in this case. The penis had to be removed after a botched bris.

    29. Re:Oh well... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Most feminists see the fact that some people feel like they have been born in the wrong sexe, and therefore identify themselves as a different gender.

      I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.....

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    30. Re:Oh well... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Nope. Suicide rate after surgery drops to almost the same level as the general population. The reason it's still sightly higher after surgery from the stresses dealing with ignorant assholes spreading lies on a daily basis. In other words, you're the problem.

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    31. Re: Oh well... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      If by that you mean it explains the poster is aware that certain people behaved in unethical, deceptive, and malicious ways to promote themselves

      Why bring Milo Yiannopoulos into this?

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    32. Re:Oh well... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      We saw jackasses like Jack Thompson get some sway with the trendy fucks in the industry last time.

      Jack Thompson ("Based Jack") became a favorite of gamergators. Have you forgotten your GG canon already?

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    33. Re:Oh well... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Does that mean the male brain is superior, being an evolved version of the female brain with more bits acting in concert to handle more-demanding intellectual problems; or that it is inferior, being a hobbled version with bits weakened and disconnected so as to interfere with cognition?

      Trigger warning - I'm replying about the story instead of the predictable direction the comments went.

      It isn't a matter of superior or inferior. A pregnant woman goes through a fair number of biological adjustments, and it isn't too surprising that some of them are in the brain. And a lot of men can attest to their wife becoming a rather different person after childbirth. While this may or may not present a problem for the male isn't totally relevant, as the changes are related to survival of the child on the mother's part.

      I suspect that these changes are more permanent than lasting only a couple years.

      But as to being superior or inferior, it isn't that. This goes a long way toward explaining some personality changes, and might even be tied into the unfortunate post-partum depression that affects some women.

      Mental superiority by gender is one of those ridiculous concepts just like racial superiority by some IQ test. Because even if it were somehow true, nothing could ever be determined about any individual's intelligence by looking at them and judging the intelligence by the person being male or female, light or dark skinned.

      And I don't even know how to address the weird transgender bender the discussion went on, so I'll leave it at that.

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    34. Re:Oh well... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them."
      -- Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman

      This is a feminazi.

      "You can grab them by the pussy"
      -- President Elect Donald Trump

      This is an incoming President of the United States

      Which asshole has more power to affect your world?

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    35. Re:Oh well... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      It's cool to be this angry about gender. Really fucking cool.

      Isn't it odd? One thing is for certain - these folks spend more time thinking about Chicks with Dicks or whatever they call the female/male version of that than chicks with dicks do.

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    36. Re:Oh well... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're attention-whoring profit-seeking trolls, not feminazis. If it weren't feminism, it would be something else. Most people recognize that their brand of feminism is toxic. There's a huge difference between wanting ot be treated as equals and making a career out of dumping on men. You can include Germaine Greer in that latter group - a feminist well past her best before date stuck in an alternate future.

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    37. Re:Oh well... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      That's not a feminist - that's a kook. Let's call it what it is instead of letting them hide behind more innocuous labels so they can generate bird-dog rage when someone calls them out on it.

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    38. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Does that mean the male brain is superior

      No. It does not.

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    39. Re:Oh well... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      The man's brain changes when the child becomes a teenager, and asks to leave the tree; alone. Usually this means that Dad and Mom are no longer cool.

    40. Re:Oh well... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      It's Bacteria infected with a virus, which is the bacteria's nucleus.

    41. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Jack Thompson ("Based Jack") became a favorite of gamergators. Have you forgotten your GG canon already?

      Sorry, but "reality" doesn't fit with what actually happened. Guess that's what happens when you're so deep in your ideology that you believe everything is "us or them." Would you like to invent some more bullshit, or concede that you enjoy your fake news so much that you'd enjoy more of it?

      Then again, considering your comments on fake news in the past. I guess that now makes you a gamergate supporter, especially with all the fake news that the media has pushed over the last 2 years.

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    42. Re:Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yup transgenders never existed, are a myth like global warming. There can be only be male and female as god intended.

      Sex refers to anatomy; gender refers to self identity. Sex is easy to identify 99.99% of the time. Gender can be fluid.

    43. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      And the trees are all kept equal, by hatchet, ax, and saw.

      And if you have actual proof of wrongdoing, then you've got a case to take before the labor board don't you? I mean it's not like the vast majority of the cases show that the claims are fake, attempts at revenge, and so on. Seems that there are far too many people who believe that they should get paid for work that they didn't do.

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    44. Re:Oh well... by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      But nobody is talking about those jobs. We are talking about office jobs, retail jobs, health industry jobs, where women consistently get payed less for doing the exact same thing.

    45. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The problem is that said "toxic brand of feminism" is the one being supported by people, promoted by those loud mouths. The same one that's being pushed to create new rules, laws and so on. And it's those same people who are pushing it, that are at the forefront of outrage campaigns against people who dare to tell a off-colour joke. There's a reason why less then 15% of women identify as feminists these days, and feminists much like the DNC haven't figured out why people are deriding them or their views.

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    46. Re:Oh well... by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      Now, they'll also take time off for pregnancy, and we'll see a drop. Now let's consider that a man will be more likely to take OT, or work longer hours.

      I mean, that is kind of the point right? Someone has to have babies, or else we are all going to be in trouble. The fact that women get penalized for it is exactly the problem. Someone has to cook, clean and take care of children. That it is societally imposed mostly on women is the problem.

    47. Re:Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because even if it were somehow true, nothing could ever be determined about any individual's intelligence by looking at them and judging the intelligence by the person being male or female, light or dark skinned.

      Yes but the fundamental problem with that argument is this. Unless you possess the capability to reliably and efficiently assess individuals, than if there are real general trends toward superiority among groups, that it would absolutely make sense to discriminate based on those characteristics in cases where more deterministic data isn't available. Ie if I don't know which of the two guys offering to do the work is smarter (and that might matter for the given work) I in fact should go with the person of $skinTone or $sex.

    48. Re:Oh well... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      In Israel there was an interesting case a few years ago. An adult woman called Riki Ovadia had invited 10-13 year olds to her apartment to have sex, repeatedly. Feminists actually insisted that the kids "took advantage" of her.

      Hey, you can't rape the willing...lol.

      I see these young, GOOD looking teachers on the news lately, beautiful ladies teaching high school and sleeping with their male students.

      I keep wondering "Where they hell were these when "I" was in High School?!?!?"

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    49. Re:Oh well... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Superior in what regard? It's wrong to make a blanket "superior" judgement without defining a context. Cement trucks are superior to race cars for the job of hauling concrete, but you don't see cement trucks competing in the Indianapolis 500.

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    50. Re:Oh well... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Coming to terms with who you actually are is a sign of maturity.

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    51. Re:Oh well... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      So, instead of refuting the claim, you go and make fun of them for what they are. Take a long slow look in the mirror, and realize that you are indeed the hypocrite. Why don't you accept them as they are, after all, you expect them to do the same for your views. ;)

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    52. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The fact that women get penalized for it is exactly the problem.

      Really? Guess that's why in most western countries if you take maternity leave you get more money then say if you were injured on the job. And if it's a crippling injury, you might spend the next 20 years fighting for it, never get it, and die in poverty if you're lucky. The worst case, you'll simply commit suicide because it's hopeless. Oh, and if you're a father and want said maternity leave too? After all, it's unfair to burden a single person with all the right? So If you're lucky, really lucky and in the right country you might get a few weeks vs several months or even a year and change. And that is *in* western countries. In some countries as a male, you don't even have the right to apply for it.

      Someone has to cook, clean and take care of children. That it is societally imposed mostly on women is the problem.

      Guess that's why there's been such a big push for daycares right? Never mind that there's been a few studies showing that daycares create shitty kids. But no, it's not societally imposed. Everyone has a choice, unless of course you live in a society that believes women are worth less then men. That isn't the case in western countries.

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    53. Re: Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Thought you were talking about Anita Sarkeesian. You know much like how she claimed that "gamergaters threatened her speaking engagement in Colorado." Except of course, that the threat was so full of BS, that no wonder the FBI said it wasn't credible. The only thing missing from that threat was a navy seal with 300 confirmed kills.

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    54. Re:Oh well... by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      I don't really understand which windmills you think you are tilting at. Most people that are for maternity leave (including myself) are also for paternity leave. And disability benefits. These things are not mutually exclusive and they really don't change the debate here at all.

    55. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      What a strange world you live in, where the games industry agreed with Jack Thompson. As I recall the main reaction was to spoof him in a number of games and increase the violence levels with ever more realistic graphics.

      As for Sarkeesian, did you know she isn't actually against violence in games? You don't actually seem to have watched any of her videos, so I guess not. Anyway, Tropes vs Women seems to have been somewhat influential. Quite a few AAA games this year have had much better portrayals of women, especially sequels where the improvement is measurable. It doesn't seem to have hurt those games either. In fact many of the most highly rated ones, like Mass Effect, are also rated highly by feminists. Even the latest Mortal Kombat has more realistic female bodies now (for you to rip apart).

      Game developers pushed back against anti-feminists because the recognised Tropes vs. Women for what it is - a series of well made arguments and suggestions for changes that are often easy to make and invariably improve games.

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    56. Re: Oh well... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Anita Sarkeesian

      Dude you are way too obsessed with her. I think you have a crush.

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    57. Re: Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Dude you are way too obsessed with her. I think you have a crush.

      Oh, I see. One shouldn't point out that a shitty person, being a shitty person and lying, should be brought to the forefront right?

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    58. Re: Oh well... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      One shouldn't...

      One can do whatever one wants. But when you keep dragging the same lady into every conversation no matter what, it looks a little like you're kind of obsessed.

      IOW you have a mssive crush on her.

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    59. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      What a strange world you live in, where the games industry agreed with Jack Thompson. As I recall the main reaction was to spoof him in a number of games and increase the violence levels with ever more realistic graphics.

      Yeah that never happened of course, but maybe you spend part of your time in an alternate reality. The only reason he stopped being an issue, was because he was tromped all over by the media. And was eventually disbarred by lying before the courts.

      As for Sarkeesian, did you know she isn't actually against violence in games?

      You mean besides her pushing of this stuff? Having a bit of a problem telling the difference between her and Thompson yet? Or would you prefer the part where she's pushing ideologies to ban video games? Just like Thompson did. And at least Thompson had the testicular fortitude to defend his viewpoints against multiple people. Something she never does, and when questioned on it starts whining that it's misogyny.

      FYI: Those video games had been in development for years before she started this stuff.

      Game developers pushed back against anti-feminists because the recognised Tropes vs. Women for what it is - a series of well made arguments and suggestions for changes that are often easy to make and invariably improve games.

      No, they didn't. In fact most developers didn't want anything to do with her. EA even went as far as to state that she had nothing to do with the development of their game(s). But those series are full of so many factual errors you could write an essay on that alone. Never mind that their sources are so poor, or don't exist at all -- or present a complete opposite of the viewpoint she's pushing. But keep in mind that she was also right there, whining at the UN and complaining that "harassment is people demanding proof" and the internet should be censored to protect her.

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    60. Re: Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      But when you keep dragging the same lady into every conversation no matter what, it looks a little like you're kind of obsessed.

      Oh you mean like Pope there pulling in Milo? Just a useful tip, he's picky. And she doesn't need you white knighting for her. It makes it look like you have a massive crush on her.

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    61. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Most people that are for maternity leave (including myself) are also for paternity leave. And disability benefits. These things are not mutually exclusive and they really don't change the debate here at all.

      Now here's your chance to go look at the context of the entire discussion, and then go do a bit of digging. Let me know when you get to the part where radfems are against males having paternity leave, that women who have kids are traitors, and that disability benefits should go to women who have to "put up with men." You'll have fun down that rabbit hole.

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    62. Re: Oh well... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Oh you mean like ...

      We're talking about you here. You can try to deflect. But bro, you have it baaaad.

      Mashiki and Anita up a tree...

      (is that rhyme just a British one?)

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    63. Re: Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      We're talking about you here. You can try to deflect. But bro, you have it baaaad.

      Seems more like you've got a huge crush on me, going by the number of times you reply to me. Personally, I'd mark you down as a deluded stalker though. Don't worry on that bit of reality though, especially the part where you couldn't dispute anything I said. Though I suppose, I'm glad I keep you so interested. It's better then you actually doing stupid things.

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    64. Re:Oh well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Quite a few AAA games this year have had much better portrayals of women, especially sequels where the improvement is measurable.

      Name three

    65. Re:Oh well... by lbalbalba · · Score: 1

      So much for the feminazis out there claiming that there is no difference between a male and female brain, and that what constitute gender is nothing but a social construct.

      Not 'identical', but 'equivalent' sums it up for me. And yes, I have heard feminists state this. Just because men and women are not the same, that does not mean that they do not have equal value.

    66. Re: Oh well... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Seems more like you've got a huge crush on me,

      What can I say? I'm drawn to batshit crazy. It's just sad that you're too attached to Anita and will never give me the love I need :'(

      Though I suppose, I'm glad I keep you so interested.

      I must say, I do find you fascinating.

      you couldn't dispute anything I said

      lol!

      I also think you have an excellent sense of humour!

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    67. Re:Oh well... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Possibly, but the subject of science's study isn't.

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    68. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Mashiki, the link you provided to an archive of the Feminist Frequency web site (unnecessary as the page has not been deleted) doesn't say anything about banning games. You just assume everyone who disagrees with you wants to ban you. It's a weird delusion you have.

      Have you watched "Lingerie is not Armour"? Sarkeesian specifically praises Chun Li as an example of a female character who is is involved in violence but has agency and isn't just a cheap victim used to add colour to the game. Chun Li is the equal of the other male characters, dresses somewhat sensibly by fighting game standards and while she has some issues (like Female Personality Disorder in the early games) being violent or receiving violence is not one of them.

      This is probably too nuanced for you, but it is actually possible to be admiring of a martial artists while still not liking gore fest horror movies, for example. And just in case you missed it, she didn't call for Doom to be banned either. Criticism is not calling for something to be banned.

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    69. Re:Oh well... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      it's possible an abnormal development caused ...

      Hence the body disorder remark, presumably. ;)

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    70. Re: Oh well... by EmeraldBot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Gender does not refer to self identity, that is a construct developed by supporters of transgender. Gender is analogous to sex which is encoded into DNA

      No, it's not. Sex is the biologically determined aspect of masculinity vs femininity; whether you possess certain organs, what your hormone levels are, and how your body develops. Gender is the socitial expectation for masculinity vs femininity; what jobs you're supposed to have, how you're supposed to dress, and in some cultures, how you speak. For example, we've always had males and females, and males have always had deeper voices; but only 100 years ago, pink was masculine and blue was feminine. Thus, even if you wore a blue shirt as a male in 1900, you'd still be a male by sex; but not very masculine by gender.

      And no, these concepts have been around for literally thousands of years. Until the extremo Christians of the middle ages entered, it was actually really normal for people to flirt with the gender lines; read some Roman or Greek poetry. I would love to see your reaction to the Roman emperor Nero's (biologically male) wife, or the widespread act of guys who had open and accepted affairs with other guys (while being both straight and married to women).

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    71. Re:Oh well... by s122604 · · Score: 1

      Nobody ever loves ya like your mum...
      That's not to say there aren't some shitty mothers out there, but a mother's ability to put up with your bullshit (and your actual shit), and not eat you before the age of two is one of the reason mammals are as successful as they are..

    72. Re:Oh well... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 2

      There's been numerous studies showing that people suffering depression tend to be better at various forms of contingency rating then non-depressed people. Rather than a sign of being immature, it's a sign of being realistic. Happiness depends on being delusional.

    73. Re:Oh well... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I realize that this is semantics and legal wrangling, but in many (all?) states, under 18 = statutory rape

      Actually it varies widely between the states.

      Many of them are 16yrs....and it wasn't that long ago, I believe that Hawaii had it as low as 14yrs I believe, but they raised it?

      I'll have to look that one up, but 16yrs is common across many of the states in the US.

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    74. Re:Oh well... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Because even if it were somehow true, nothing could ever be determined about any individual's intelligence by looking at them and judging the intelligence by the person being male or female, light or dark skinned.

      Yes but the fundamental problem with that argument is this. Unless you possess the capability to reliably and efficiently assess individuals, than if there are real general trends toward superiority among groups, that it would absolutely make sense to discriminate based on those characteristics in cases where more deterministic data isn't available.

      So what you are saying is that you can definitely and without mistake, choose the best candidate for a job by gender of skin color.

      Sorry, thanks for playing. You have bought into the old political argument that you can make the porest stupidest white man feel as if he is superior to any and all Black people. It works, because the poor stupid white man cannot see that he is stupid, and if a person can tell him that he is superior to all blacks, then he will not only vote against his self interests, but happily open his wallet to those who tell him he is superior.

      You aren't even wrong, you are that poor white guy.

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    75. Re:Oh well... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      So, instead of refuting the claim, you go and make fun of them for what they are. Take a long slow look in the mirror, and realize that you are indeed the hypocrite. Why don't you accept them as they are, after all, you expect them to do the same for your views. ;)

      Hold on a second, How on earth are you suggesting that I'm being a hypocrite for saying that people who have a problem with transgenders might have their own problem issues?

      This is nothing new. It's called projection. And it works a lot. It's why we see politicians who rail about gays and end up caught in a bathroom giving another guy a blowjob. Or Family values reality stars who end up liking to get jiggy wit young girls, and have accounts with fuck for fun websites. Or preachers who like little girls, or special massage sessions, or being on child welfare panels and trying to get dates with underage same sex interns. on and on and on.

      My statement is valid, and meant to be crude for the shock value. The only times I think about transgender people or hermaphroditic folk, is when a discussion comes up about it. Others perhaps think about it a lot more, certainly the number of pornsites devoted to that kind of thing might attest to that fact.

      As for accepting those who have a problem with transgenders, and want to marginalize them or deprive them of civil rights, of course I accept their views. What you are saying to me is shut up and don't give your views. Sorry, perhaps some day, I can be killed or imprisoned for my views by people like you (you'd like that, eh?) but until then, well, I suppose you could just nor read my posts.

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    76. Re:Oh well... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Well, there is the case of Hillary Clinton's campaign staff, where women were paid significantly less than men.

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    77. Re:Oh well... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The original sentence that you are paraphrasing is ambiguous. You should work to clarify it, not argue against it.

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    78. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Advertising works if people at least have some kind of interest in something. No matter how much you advertise your tampons to me, you will never have a customer in me. Unless I need to start a fire in a rain, those things are great for that.

      But another thing matters: Advertising is something someone does who wants to sell me something. And if vendor and buyer agree that they don't give a shit about your crap, you can "advertise" until you're blue in the face and you won't have any kind of impact on the deal.

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    79. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Jack Thompson had exactly zero impact outside of the US. Why does everyone over there think the world only revolves around them? Nobody even knew about him and the only game studios that even considered him in any way relevant were studios whose core market was the US. And those studios quickly lost ground, too.

      I doubt studios will make the same mistake again after they learned that nobody outside the US gave half a shit about Thompson's rants, and that people buying games inside the US didn't either.

      Because at the end of the day, that is what matters to the studios: Selling their games. And quite frankly, if wiggling boobs sell games, that's what they will produce, if crafting stories around gender issues sell games, that's what they'll produce. They don't really care. What they care about is what sells their games.

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    80. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Studios will produce what they think will sell. It is that simple. The whole gender issue is now a thing, so they'll try to see if it sells more games. If it does, great, they'll continue with it. If it doesn't, they'll put the lid on it again.

      Game studios are a business. They will sell what people want to buy. They don't care about any "message"; what they care about is making a buck.

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    81. Re:Oh well... by jrumney · · Score: 1

      The study is clearly flawed, as the men whose brains they studied were not pregnant.

    82. Re:Oh well... by cryptizard · · Score: 1

      That is how society works dude. We incentivize and accommodate for actions that serve the overall society. Having a baby is a choice at a personal level but it is not an option at a societal level. It is the same reason we legally mandate that jobs have to give you time off for military service if you are in the reserves. Individually it is a choice (now at least) to join the military, but we need some people to do it or else the country collapses. Should employers be able to not hire employees in the reserves because they might leave in the middle of their job?

    83. Re:Oh well... by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      In Israel there was an interesting case a few years ago. An adult woman called Riki Ovadia had invited 10-13 year olds to her apartment to have sex, repeatedly. Feminists actually insisted that the kids "took advantage" of her.

      Hey, you can't rape the willing...lol.

      It's not willing if consent is impossible.

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    84. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Game development is not just a business. The people involved see themselves as artists, producing a creative work. And like most artists, they want to be good at what they do and tell interesting stories with compelling characters, so will take on-board constructive criticism and suggestions.

      Also, since women play games too, and even men get something from not playing just another generic muscle-bound tank, it's good commercial advice too.

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    85. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Off the top of my head:

      The more recent Assassin's Creed games.
      The new Tomb Raider games.
      Bethesda games.
      FIFA.
      Watchdogs 2.
      Street Fighter V.
      Mortal Kombat X.

      I don't really play modern games much but those spring to mind.

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    86. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You cite a Reddit post as your reality. Think about that a second.

      Correction: I cite one of the primary gamergate hubs, and their stance on Jack Thompson. Now think on that for a second.

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    87. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Mashiki, the link you provided to an archive of the Feminist Frequency web site (unnecessary as the page has not been deleted) doesn't say anything about banning games. You just assume everyone who disagrees with you wants to ban you. It's a weird delusion you have.

      If you think hard as to the reason I gave an archive link, you'll get it. Did you read that page? You get to the part where she promotes a person who's primary desire is to ban games. No? Go back and start reading.

      This may be beyond your understanding, but when a person pushes "critiques" without substance, and no alternatives. They're just a little moral authoritarian that wants things their way, instead of letting creators make the things they want. FYI: Her version of feminism is part of the same group that pushed to ban GTAV based on the lie that the premise is to "rape hookers, and beat them to death for health."

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    88. Re:Oh well... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Jack Thompson had exactly zero impact outside of the US. Why does everyone over there think the world only revolves around them? Nobody even knew about him and the only game studios that even considered him in any way relevant were studios whose core market was the US. And those studios quickly lost ground, too.

      And the biggest front for the video game industry was then at the time where? That's right...the US. Of course these days with gaming being much less centralized, that's not so much of a problem. But let's compare Japan vs the US. A studio in the US will bend to public pressure put on them by a loudmouth whether it be a feminist whining about the ass of a character, or someone crusading against violence. The response from Japan's gaming scene? Too bad. And that extends into other areas as well, movies, cartoons, etc.

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    89. Re:Oh well... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The page has some links... Are you saying that linking to stuff is "promoting" it? And can you be specific about which one?

      Your argument appears to be guilt by association, and the association is mostly in your mind. Sarkeesian is a feminist who has criticised games. Other feminists have called for GTAV to be banned, therefore Sarkeesian also wants it banned... But won't actually say that directly, for some reason she prefers to simply "promote" others who say it... Even though she is outspoken on every other issue.

      Here's a tip for you. Every time you suspect a conspiracy or guilt by remote association, remember Pizzagate.

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    90. Re:Oh well... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Hence the body disorder remark, presumably. ;)

      To use a computer analogy: It's a software problem, not a hardware issue.

      Usually we distinguish between the mind and the body, although, technically speaking:
      the mind is part of the body. The development process is referencing nurture and
      learned preferences and behaviors, not the body's development programmed by firmware.

      It's not necessary to imply a firmware or "body" issue.

      Due to some kind of accident made at some point, a configuration file on the disk
      got accidentally set to load tunings and drivers more suitable for the opposite hardware.

    91. Re:Oh well... by syntotic · · Score: 1

      Very bad, these universities do not have the credibility for this study. They did not control extended mental diseases associated to pregnant women... on people AROUND them. And changes, should they happen... are they to bind to the baby stronger or to facilitate the woman getting pregnant again and forget about the baby because it gives her more survival advantages and selective advantages to 1) swap babies, 2) have new couple after successful baby test?

    92. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Japan doesn't give half a shit about what some loudmouth in the US does or says. The Japanese market is huge and most Japanese game companies see any market outside of Japan and maybe Korea as something that's nice to have but certainly nothing to bend over backwards for, especially if that would alienate domestic gamers.

      Losing the US market would be devastating for, say, MS, but for Sony? Hardly. And I doubt even MS would be stupid enough to give in to the demands of people who are not their customers. Because if they did, the only thing that is certain is that the XBox would quickly fade into insignificance.

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    93. Re:Oh well... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You can be any kind of artist you want to be, but on the payroll, you will produce what the one paying your wage wants you to produce. It is that simple. EA, UBIsoft and the likes doesn't give a shit about "artistic value" or telling a compelling story beyond what sells. If that's muscle-bound tanks, that's what they produce. If it's the thoughtful discussion of gender issues, that's what they'll produce.

      What matters is simply what can be sold to as big an audience as possible. At least when talking about AAA titles. You will find all sorts of games from Indie developers that do actually care about the artistic value and the message of their games, and there are a lot of very good, very thoughtful and very thought provoking titles out there, but you will not find them in the portfolio of AAA studios. There you'll find the n-th sequel of the same old, tried formula.

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    94. Re:Oh well... by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Does that mean the male brain is superior, being an evolved version of the female brain with more bits acting in concert to handle more-demanding intellectual problems; or that it is inferior, being a hobbled version with bits weakened and disconnected so as to interfere with cognition?

      Yes.

    95. Re:Oh well... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Happiness depends on being delusional.

      I think this might be one of the most depressing statements i've heard in quite awhile.
      I'm going to go have another scotch to drink, and make it a double.

  2. Re:First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, mommy so proud. Keep it up, honey.

  3. Personal recollection by ContextSwitch · · Score: 1

    I remember when my first wife was pregnant with our first child. At the time I had an Amiga 500 and enjoyed playing games on it. My wife, who absolutely despised computer games suddenly became interested in them about three months into her pregnancy. I remember her getting hooked on New Zealand Story.

    Of course, once the child was born all hope of playing computer games was abandoned by both of us.

    1. Re:Personal recollection by kria · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My husband recently suggested I start making a list of computer games that look like they would be fun so I can play them in 10-15 years... ;) (I have a two year old with a new baby coming in February.) We're going to try to see our second movie at the theater since she was born on this coming Thursday; both Stars Wars movies, which seem like the kind that you just have to see on the big screen.

      Rather than make a new comment elsewhere, particularly with all of the vitriol being spewed on this thread, I'll also add that pregnancy hormones really, really suck as someone with an engineer's brain. Imagine that you suddenly burst into tears for relatively minor things being wrong, or occasionally for NO REAL REASON. It's horrible.

    2. Re:Personal recollection by ContextSwitch · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Heh yes! I remember converstations which went:

      Me: "What's wrong?"

      Her: "Nothing."

      Me: "Then why are you crying?"

      Her: "I DON'T KNOW"

      I remember being totally bewildered by these types of conversation, the sudden mood changes and, what seemed to me to be changes in basic character. I also remember being in awe by how much hormones can affect a person's personality and even being somewhat afraid that her personality would be changed forever from the person I'd married. Thankfully, it wasn't.

    3. Re:Personal recollection by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Imagine that you suddenly burst into tears for relatively minor things being wrong, or occasionally for NO REAL REASON. It's horrible.

      Try undiagnosed Aspergers - or if that's not enough, combine it with depression.

      There may actually be reasons but they're utterly unknowable. You're right, it is horrible.

      At least pregnancy can be cured :(

    4. Re:Personal recollection by Christopher_G_Lewis · · Score: 1

      First of all, best of luck - I do remember missing a *lot* of 2001-2009 with our 3 kids up until the youngest was 2ish.

      When they are 3 and on it's a complete joy ride - lots of run watching them discover the world.

      Then they become teenagers.

      I now know why hard liquor was invented.

  4. Baby brain by RobinH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the moms around here call it "baby brain." The memory thing that most moms (and dads) experience just has to be sleep deprivation. When I did basic training they cut us back to 5 hours of sleep a night for weeks, but that was to show us that we could still function on that little sleep. When I became a father, I was getting two sessions of about 2 to 2.5 hours of sleep per night, for months. The latter was definitely much worse and affects everything - mood, work, and relationships. The mom also has (a) many more social pressures to be the "perfect" mom - (thanks Facebook), (b) tons of weird hormone changes going on, (c) physical trauma from the birth, (d) a weird combination of stress and mind numbing boredom, and (e) whatever this "baby brain" thing is. It absolutely sucks for her (and sometimes seems to manifest as anger), so she's going to take all that shit out on someone, and as the father you're the only one that's handy, so you get to grin and bear it. Over the course of several years things do improve a lot. It never goes back to the way things were though - sometimes too many things get said, too much animosity and frustration build up. People can hold grudges for a long time.

    Nobody can really be prepared for being a parent. Even if you're told all the stuff to expect, it doesn't sink in until you're actually in the situation, and at that point there's nothing you can do but take a deep breath and do your best.

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    1. Re:Baby brain by cerberusss · · Score: 2

      It absolutely sucks for her (and sometimes seems to manifest as anger), so she's going to take all that shit out on someone, and as the father you're the only one that's handy, so you get to grin and bear it.

      Although this happens a lot, I'm very reluctant to call it normal.

      If you love your partner, you don't take out your shit on him/her. When you get angry, you storm off and meditate a bit on it. There's this crazy notion that "someone has to bear the brunt of it". But well-balanced, emotionally developed adults know better.

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    2. Re:Baby brain by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      "But well-balanced, emotionally developed adults know better."

      But he was talking about women...ZING

    3. Re:Baby brain by ByteSlicer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Reminds me of a study they did some years ago.
      When asked directly, parents would claim they derived much joy and happiness from their kids.
      But when asked those same parents indirectly, with some clever questions, the researchers found that the parents weren't nearly as happy as they claimed they were. Their kids caused them all kinds of stress and unhappiness.
      They concluded that those parents weren't necessarily lying during the questions, but that humans probably evolved a sort of delusional condition, so that they would believe kids made them happy, and so they kept procreating. Those that didn't have these delusions, obviously didn't have as much offspring, so there was a strong selection for the condition.

    4. Re:Baby brain by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      But well-balanced, emotionally developed adults know better.

      That's why in policing, some of the new policies include stuff like "women primarily abuse through emotional and psychological abuse" while "men primarily abuse through physical abuse." In countries which have put "emotional abuse is domestic violence" you can be sure that you're going to see an uptick in women being arrested, charged and detained. Get's more interesting when you see the crime stat survey's and start reading Gazette or Juristat and it shows that in cases of emotional abuse nearly 90% of the cases are started by women.

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    5. Re:Baby brain by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I'd never be prepared for being a parent. Nothing would change about me; there'd just be some more annoying shit around me.

      If the damned thing would wander into the street and die when it was 3 or 4 years old, that would be a great relief. Not that I wouldn't take steps to prevent it; just that if it happened--and unfortunately I'm very good at identifying and mitigating risks, so it probably wouldn't--my first sentiment would be, "Oh, good," followed by a facepalm at all the annoying bullshit everybody else starts doing about what is now a non-issue because it's dead and not food and thus of absolutely zero importance.

      Since I can project that far ahead, I've simply determined to not allow that to happen. When I was a teenager, I wasn't as good at projecting the full span from the current time to an outcome; people insisted I'd have kids one day and talked about what my life would be in 20 years, and eventually I started becoming psychotic and fantasizing about murdering them all. That tends to happen when a threat has you backed into a corner and you can't find an escape. Once I learned to plan and control my own life, their threats became hollow.

    6. Re:Baby brain by kria · · Score: 1

      I know there are studies on the changes in the brains of people doing third shift work, who I imagine don't sleep nearly as well as people who get to sleep during the night, since no matter what there are noises. But yes, I began to feel much more like my old self once my daughter was down to waking just once during the night; unfortunately, that was at about a year in, and she only started sleeping through the night more than half the time at at least 18 months. I remember how I freaked out one morning: I had finally gotten enough sleep in one go that I had a dream again, for the first time in months. (Since, after all, in late pregnancy I was waking up 2-3 times a night for the bathroom.)

    7. Re:Baby brain by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I guess you missed out on a few trends. High rates of divorce and relationship breakup, cesareans done for cosmetic purposes (avoid stretch marks, varicose veins, etc.), high rates of cheating in relationships (and if you believe all those women on Ashley Madison were real, well, I'm not going to pop your bubble ...) ...

      And getting back into shape to be in the meat market is something both sexes do.

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    8. Re:Baby brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Amen, brother! My son is 4 months old, and my wife is 13 months bonkers! Everything you said is exactly what has happened (and I'm still dealing with.) The "too many things get said" part is horribly true, too.

    9. Re:Baby brain by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      >> I've simply determined to not allow that to happen.

      Thank you. If more people who would be absolutely terrible parents had your sense to self-regulate, the world would be a MUCH better place.

    10. Re:Baby brain by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It makes sense that humans would evolve a way to delude themselves about kids, otherwise as their intelligence developed they would also be less included to have any, and thus less likely to pass their genes on... And now that we have subverted evolution with universal high quality education, we see in the west that birth rates are indeed falling.

      I'd say it's not just kids either. My cat is pain in the arse most of the time, but somehow I'm convinced he makes me happy

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    11. Re:Baby brain by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      I have a threenager. Terrible Twos is a lie, it's when they hit 3 that the real "fun" begins.

      Don't get me wrong, my son frustrates the shit out of me sometimes. He got a double dose of stubbornness from his parents and knows how to use it. However, he also brings the most joy to my life. I do not laugh as much with anyone else as I do with him. Most evenings, my head hurts from laughing so much. Watching him grow up, discover new things, hearing him start to use his mother's native language more frequently.. it's wonderful.

      tl;dr version. Being a parent is hard but the joy outweighs the difficulties. In my opinion, net output (joy) far outweighs any work I put in.

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    12. Re:Baby brain by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I think the problem is people take parenting as a personal thing, and so can't accept that they're wrong. If people would learn to see parenting as an engineering challenge, they'd have more success in creating better-adjusted offspring, and their offspring would be less-annoying and more-successful.

      Instead of parenting in a way which is best for society and for their children, people parent in a way which is best for their ego and self-image.

    13. Re:Baby brain by RobinH · · Score: 1

      "But well-balanced, emotionally developed adults know better."

      Two things - first, in our case we're both professionals and used to being good communicators under pressure, and we both *sometimes* get to the point where we say something we regret (or should regret). It's a lot of stress. Secondly, the whole point of this story is that this kind of stuff messes with you, and even messes with your brain. Having kids may make you less of an "emotionally developed adult." Knowing better is different from actually being better when you're in an emotional state, sleep deprived, and stressed out.

      There's this reality show called "The Amazing Race." Teams of two people race around the world for prizes. Typically these teams are siblings, spouses, parent/children or significant others. Sometimes when you're watching you wonder, "Why are you two together? Do you even like each other?" The fact is, when you take two people and put them under a lot of stress it puts a lot of strain on the relationship.

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    14. Re:Baby brain by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Totally agree.
      I think its a factor of several things though. Women especially appear to be biologically hard-wired to obsessively want to have kids, but I blame society more. Firstly it encourages people to see their self-worth and whole purpose in life as only to be baby-making machines.
      Secondly, it rewards people both socially and financially for having kids (or looked at the other way: it punishes those that choose not to) which I think is a problem that very badly needs fixing, mostly because it encourages people to just have kids without any planning, and also encourages those that would obviously be terrible parents to have kids.

    15. Re:Baby brain by RobinH · · Score: 1

      While I generally agree that it's worth it (for me) in the long run, do you understand that posts like this make some parents, who are really struggling, feel worse about themselves because they feel like there's something "wrong" with them? I'm not saying your perspective is wrong. I'm saying that (a) you need to appreciate that not everyone's doing as well as you, and (b) there are lots of people saying how great being a parent is just to "fit in" or get likes on Facebook ("I'm just so blessed to have such a wonderful family... look at my beautiful wonderful family everyone!"). Many of those same people are actually having a really hard time and they're afraid to say something about it.

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    16. Re: Baby brain by RobinH · · Score: 1

      The US is odd in having a woman return to work after 6 weeks. In Canada (where we are) there's 13 weeks that the mother gets plus another 39 weeks that either the mother or father can take (for a total of 52 weeks). In France it's more like 2 years, I think. You have to wonder though, if you have more than one kid and you space them 2.5 years apart, then that 1.5 years she's back at work in between, according to this article, her brain hasn't returned to "normal".

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    17. Re:Baby brain by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Where do you get these babies that sleep 2.5h at a time for years? Both of my children did that for less than a month, then they started sleeping longer and longer periods between 4 and 6 hours until ~6 months they both were sleeping 6-8h unless something is wrong. If you timed it just right, you could put them to sleep early evening, have them wake around midnight for a feeding and sleep until at least 6am.

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    18. Re:Baby brain by Kokuyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once again very late to this party but as a father of 2.5 year old twins who also had a major case of ulcerative colitis right when they were born I can only totally agree with you.

      I'd say the lack of sleep isn't even the major problem. You still function. However, the constant attention you pay them. Every little sound you hear. You never wind down. Your brain rests even less than your body.

      And when they scream in tandem or take shifts (and I am unable to decide which is worse!), your mental walls, your ability to restrain your emotions and function is severely tested.
      But worst of all? Children mirror you! Meaning you can't even distance yourself and go into zombie mode because that will really unhinge them and scream in a futile attempt to get their caregivers back instead of having zombies.

      It's a very vicious cycle. The only thing that saved as was honest conversation and admitting that we were in way over our heads, our fears and yes, even the regular fantasies of repeatedly throwing the kids against the nearest wall.

      Explaining raising children to childless people (and making them understand) is like explaining colors to a person born blind. It cannot be done.

      We had expected the work. It didn't faze us. We had expected the dirt, broken things and such. We were unprepared for the emotional, psychological warfare going on. Some of the shit parent sgo through is what makes Amnesty criticize Guantanamo! Only we chose this for ourselves! Can you imagine the regret?

      And the dichotomy.... Dude, the dichotomy kills you. While I would have gladly taken the opportunity a year ago to be transported back in time, before we had kids, not remember a thing but with the guarantee that we'd decide on not having them in the first place, I would have taken it in an instant. In contrast, had someone offered to just take them away so we could have our freedom back, I would have declined.

      As strange as it sounds, that is what being parents is all about. You ask yourself why you were ever stupid enough to do this thing but just stopping isn't an option either.

      One thing that has changed in a remarkable way is how I look at parents who break and do something drastic. A few months back a woman threw her kids out of a window from the tsecond or third floor. Kids survived without permanent damage.
      Before I had kids, I would have condemned the behaviour to the utmost. Now I just pity the parents. They were in a war for their sanity and lost a major battle. The moment they get a chance to reflect on it, I can only imagine the guilt and pain they must feel from the realization what they have done.

      A lot of people could do better as parents. However fuck me if it ain't the hardest job with the least possibility to prepare yourself for that I have ever encountered...

    19. Re:Baby brain by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      That's why I said "in my opinion."

      The doom and gloom of slashdot is depressing. It's like the site has been taken over by a high school goth club.

      It's not like everything is all roses. I enjoy being a father of a boy. It gives my otherwise boring life meaning. I'm sorry if other people don't get the same satisfaction. I spoke up because this article seemed to have a number of non-parents providing their input for something they never experienced.

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    20. Re:Baby brain by RobinH · · Score: 1

      We've had 3 and none of them "slept through the night" until about 8 months, at least. Please note that there's a bit of misconception about what "sleep through the night means", so by that I mean 5 hours straight. That seems to be what people mean around here when they say that. Now I do have friends whose kids slept through the night from the moment they brought them home from the hospital. I also have friends whose kids cried all the time if you put them down for 2 minutes and wouldn't sleep for more than an hour at a time for over a year. They had another kid that slept normally. Checked all the usual suspects like allergies, lactose intolerance, rashes, etc., and couldn't find a reason. The answer the doctors give is "colic", which just means "cries a lot".

      It's pretty easy to think you're doing something right, and then you have another kid and realize you were just lucky. That's basically what happened with us - 2nd kid out of 3 was a bad sleeper.

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  5. semen is a psychoactive drug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Men must be killed because their emissions cause damage to the female brain.

  6. Re:OTOH by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    That statement is both sexist and grammatically incorrect. Turn yourself in to the nearest SJW re-education camp.

  7. Re:It explains the time dilation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yea, no those things have to eat every hour when they first come out and freak out when mom isn't around. The only way they get any normalcy back is through a great support structure, which comes from having a partner that doesn't make the kind of dumbass assumptions mentioned here..

  8. Re:Soylent did it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And it has 16 comments. Well done Soylent News!

  9. Naah, it works by pem · · Score: 1

    There's an implied subject: Men's [brains] suffer a life-long 50% IQ drop when they reach puberty.

    1. Re:Naah, it works by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      You can't just omit words because you don't feel like writing them. It doesn't work way.

    2. Re:Naah, it works by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      You can't just omit words because you don't feel like writing them.

      Yes you

      It doesn't work way.

      Of course it

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    3. Re:Naah, it works by pem · · Score: 1

      People do [that] all the time, [asshole].

  10. Re:It explains the time dilation by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Slashdot never fails to deliver.

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  11. Re:How brains does she have? by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Does this super intelligent sci-fi woman have multiple baby brains?

    What are you actually talking about?

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  12. Re:Obama's Terror Attack by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Did you also write that on a wall, in shit?

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  13. Re:Marxist BRAINFUCK by Maritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The worst thing about being white is I have to share my "race" with dopey cunts like you.

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  14. Re:Soylent did it! by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Tried a few times. The comments are fugly. If they sort that, I'm in.

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  15. Whaaaaaat?!?!? by Evtim · · Score: 1

    You extrapolate behavior which men exhibit towards other men to women?!?!? You think that the "initiation rites" that every male group [on the playground, in the office, in the football club, the motor gang, the army ect.] does on new members of said group are also applied to women?

    What ARE you smoking? I want some of it.....

    43 years I am on this planet and I still wait to see examples of "rampant" men bulling/harassing/rejecting/demeaning/abusing women around me. Never happened - primary school, secondary school, university, companies, army, social life...only very few occasions by drunken men in bars or on the street who were a) no danger at all since they'd even have hard time standing straight, let alone attacking a woman and b)immediately put in check by all other men in the vicinity...

    I really have no idea where are all those people that see aggression/violence/abuse all the time by all men live but it isn't the planet I am on, that's for sure...

    1. Re:Whaaaaaat?!?!? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      the social role of "gender police" - that is, reminding women what their place should be, and hurting them if they do not comply.

      Since leaving school, I've been assaulted multiple times by women, just once by a man. I've been sexually assaulted by a woman, never a man. I've been bullied by both sexes. I've been falsely accused of sexual assault by a woman, never by a man.

      Just who the fuck are the gender police because they don't seem to be having any fucking effect here.

    2. Re:Whaaaaaat?!?!? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Just who the fuck are the gender police because they don't seem to be having any fucking effect here.

      Only applies to women sorry to say. It's the same reason a man can be sexually assaulted by a women and the response is what? That's right, laughter. Or a man who's beat on by a women in a domestic violence case is told to "man up." Or if a women sexually assaults a minor, she'll get anything ranging from a suspended sentence to a few months in jail. With the very rare case of a few years. While a man doing the same will see years, sometimes a decade. Not talking consensual here, we're talking actual rape by either gender. It's very rare to see those sentences reversed.

      It's the same reason why when a women who's abusive and "put's everything out there" on public display is lauded a hero. But if a man does the same thing, he's "out to ruin her life." Haven't even touched on things like divorce or child custody. People can see enough of that disparity if they go spend a couple of days at their local courthouse. You'll see things like, the women being abusive to the children -- with physical marks, broken bones, and so on. And the judge handing her custody, even though the man has a steady job and support of family members to watch the kids.

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  16. Bad news, guys by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

    My oldest's 17th birthday is today - I promise you this lasts at least 17 years. Ugh.

    I think grandkids cause their brain to just melt or something.

    By the way, for the old-timers - the 17 year old was 5 days old when we saved Hotmail.

    1. Re:Bad news, guys by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      Saved Hotmail? I'd be embarrassed to attach my name to that POS. Even today, they follow their own standards and muck with mail to break DKIM.

      My, how /. has changed.

      We saved Hotmail because it was Christmas Day 1999 and that was the primary free email service at the time. We had soldiers overseas who had nothing else to communicate with their families at home.

    2. Re:Bad news, guys by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Nope, still not onside.

      There were alternatives even back then. Hotmail was never the right answer.

  17. BOY! That explains a lot! by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Why women are worse drivers AFTER having a baby. Why women seem to complain more AFTER having a baby. Why women....(continue on as needed). for the ultra sensitive...yes, this was meant as HUMOR

  18. Force researchers to keep abreast of their field by ET3D · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's been shown the gay men's brain activity change when they become parents, matching in some ways changes in mothers' brains, and they definitely don't go through a pregnancy.

    The researchers could have compared to brains of women who got babies via a surrogate mother, which would have been more interesting, but they chose instead to compare to groups which obviously won't have relevant changes.

    Also, they looked at scans only before and after the pregnancy, which makes this research quite useless in determining changes during pregnancy. It could be that these changes occur at or near birth.

    All in all, looks to me like a waste of research money.

  19. Feminazis going after thought-criminals by mi · · Score: 5, Informative

    And who gives a shit about their opinion?

    An otherwise perfectly qualified man has lost his job of running Harvard University for merely suggesting, men and women could be different in some respects:

    Last year [2005 -mi], Summers sparked international outrage by speculating at an economics conference that innate differences between men and women might be one of the reasons women lag behind in science and math careers.

    Even closer to the point in TFA, this year Donald Trump was widely denounced for stating (back in 2004), that an employee's pregnancy is an inconvenience for the employer. Hillary Clinton, portraying herself as a pillar of feminism (pay no attention to her husband's sexual predations), chose to use that obvious and unremarkable true statement to attack her opponent.

    You may think, no one "gives a shit", but her billion-dollar campaign did enough research to believe, there is enough of an audience, who'll defecate bricks over it. And they did...

    Please. Let them rant

    Nobody intends to stop "faminazis" from exercising their First Amendment rights. We are just pointing out, their rants are wrong.

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    1. Re:Feminazis going after thought-criminals by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      Need some context here. Don't know about the college professor, but Donald Rump is a womanizer and serial groper. When someone like that says; "pregnancy is an inconvenience for employers" -- a statement I can actually agree with. There's a lot more subtext.

      The "and so we should forget about paid maternal leave" is the subtext. THAT is what people are criticizing him about.

      If we waited for the Alt-Right to be honest, we'd have Kellyanne Conway explaining how that flat hand raised at an angle in the air is not a "siege heil meine fuhrer" solute.

      In context, I'm not sure where Mussolini would stand on paid maternal leave or if it would change my feelings about him.

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    2. Re:Feminazis going after thought-criminals by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      Nobody intends to stop "faminazis" from exercising their First Amendment rights. We are just pointing out, their rants are wrong.

      It's so big of you to allow them to have the first amendment. I wouldn't -- probably because I've got doubts about my penis.

      To back a man up; you are wrong feminazis, WRONG! Someone needs to repeat it while a feminazi is debating or something. Who is a feminazi? Is it merely a woman who is saying something we disagree with -- sure. But picture Rosie O'Donnel. Or some other opinionated lesbian that plays softball.

      I'm a man. A man's man. What is that? Picture Chuck Norris, or Donald Rump in a suite. or Nick Offerman when he's in character -- Cool, right?

      We shouldn't let the first warning of the Feminazi blitz kreig be the burning of Rush Limbaugh's shorts -- then it would be too late. Let them have 1st amendment rights? As long as they don't take our 2nd amendment rights. Guns deserve freedom. /sarcasm

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    3. Re:Feminazis going after thought-criminals by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Ok, can you find any examples outside the lalaland the US turned into? Because, well, anything works in the fairy tale world over there, it seems, that people out here in the real world don't give a shit about either. I mean, look at Creationism.

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    4. Re:Feminazis going after thought-criminals by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, they have the right to speak.

      But they have no right to force you to listen.

      So why do you?

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  20. Re:Science! by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    If you have a random sampling of women of different backgrounds and interests, you're already controlling for most variables. A lot of similarities become randomized; the remainder can be idenitfied as a part of pregnancy, as they're likely behavioral changes caused as a part of the process, like nesting behavior in pregnant animals which don't build nests when not preparing to reproduce.

  21. Men and grey matter by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    "As for first-time fathers, the researchers found no changes in their grey matter."

    Because men lose grey matter on first hooking up with the woman.

  22. Re:BOY! That explains a lot! by dgatwood · · Score: 1

    Perhaps not driving, but it actually does explain certain changes in thought processes after having kids. I've noticed that some women become hyper-protective after having kids, with an exaggerated fear of every theoretical danger. Of course, humans are not particularly good at understanding probability to begin with, so I always assumed that this perception was just confirmation bias on my part, or at most was the result of social conditioning (being around other hyper-protective people making people hyper-protective).

    When you look at this in conjunction with the study that compared liberal and conservative brains, however, this study paints a different picture. That study showed that conservatives had more grey matter in the amygdala (the fear center) and less grey matter in the anterior cingulate cortex (the part of brain that handles complexity). Although this study doesn't show increased grey matter in the amygdala, it does show less grey matter in the angular cingulate cortex (among other parts) with no reduction in the amygdala to balance that out. Based on that, it stands to reason that these female brain changes during pregnancy make mothers more protective of their offspring, thus at least historically improving the odds of the survival of the species.

    The question, then, is whether this grey matter loss can be prevented. As an advanced society, we aren't constantly running from predators, and we don't need those same sorts of relative increases in fear response after pregnancy. These days, those changes mostly harm society by creating helicopter parents that harm social development of their offspring. If we could find a way to prevent this grey matter loss, we would likely improve society immensely.

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  23. Re:It explains the time dilation by IMightB · · Score: 2

    No shit... Either this comment was made by a childless douchebag or he's in the running for world's shittiest baby daddy. That being said, after pushing out two for me, my wife did start exercising while I took care of my boys. Now she looks amazing, weighs less than before the kiddos, and I get lots of loving.

  24. Anyone who's ever had a kind knows... by sycodon · · Score: 1

    The mothers go batshit crazy...not necessarily in a bad or good way, just a giant deviation for the person you married.

    Sometimes that sticks, too.

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  25. Re:It explains the time dilation by jittles · · Score: 1

    Slashdot never fails to deliver.

    This is not the misogyny you're looking for

  26. DAS SECKSIS! by newdsfornerds · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a study conducted by men for men. LOL

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  27. True thing. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    "Ooooh, yess, YuCuddlyWubblyLiddlThing ..."

    Sound pretty brain-altered to me. :-))

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  28. Re:BOY! That explains a lot! by rgbscan · · Score: 1

    tl;dr - This totally explains "Won't someone think of the children?!?!?!"

  29. Re:Marxist BRAINFUCK by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 2

    Henceforth, I want to racially identify myself as "off-white" to allow others to separate me from the "alt-right."

    Power to the beige people!

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  30. Re:OTOH by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    and grammatically incorrect. Turn yourself in to the nearest SJW re-education camp.

    wait sjws are grammer nazi's now?

    irregardless of your opinion sjws are not ultamately responsible for every evil in the world even though some people believe that for all intensive purposes they are. It does peek my curiosity though. Do you really believe that? maybe i will pore over your posts to see.

    I awate your response with baited breath.

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  31. Just wait. by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

    You want to see an altered brain, wait for menopause. Then run. Don't look back, just run.

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  32. Joy vs. Happiness by Koreantoast · · Score: 1

    researchers found that the parents weren't nearly as happy as they claimed they were. Their kids caused them all kinds of stress and unhappiness.

    Perhaps its a distinction between joy and happiness? Joy being the macro positive feelings associated with being a part of something bigger (i.e. raising a child, building a legacy through them, satisfaction of ego, that weird love thing) versus happiness which is focused on the general condition of the person day to day (sleep deprivation, resource sacrifice, emotional and psychological strain, etc.).

  33. Re:Science! by mattwarden · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure you read my comment carefully. Perhaps it's my fault for using "control". My point is that to attribute it to "pregnancy", you'd need to, as just one example, show it isn't just the result of low physical activity. I am not referring to the kind of control you seem to be thinking based on your response. Hope that clarification helps.

  34. Re:Science! by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    I think "low physical activity" is common enough and well-studied enough that we know what it does and can identify that there's a different outcome here. Fat, lazy bitches don't act like new mothers.

  35. Re:Science! by mattwarden · · Score: 1

    If you think that is justification, then you have not been paying attention to outright reversals in nutrition and health science over the last two decades.

  36. "Actually the research means nothing." by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "Actually the research means nothing."

    Exactly. Mod parent up.

    Also, in all the developed countries, women in the U.S. are the least happy. (I've done a lot of research about that.) Any experimental test is affected by their unhappiness. Although women in the U.S. commonly blame men, much of their unhappiness is because of the way they live, not because of men.