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Bad Year For Piracy: 2016 Was The Year Torrent Giants Fell (torrentfreak.com)

From a report on TorrentFreak: 2016 has been a memorable year for torrent users but not in a good way. Over a period of just a few months, several of the largest torrent sites vanished from the scene. From KickassTorrents, through Torrentz to What.cd, several torrent giants have left the scene.Another notable website which vanished is TorrentHound. ThePirateBay is back, but is often facing issues. Not long ago, ExtraTorrent noted that it was on the receiving end of several DDoS attacks.

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  1. And yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. i still have no problem downloading whatever im looking for.

  2. Big names are big targets by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This shouldn't really be a surprise. Once you're big enough you have a giant target painted on your back both from the rightsholders and from people with an axe to grind. In the past there was always a steady churn of sites, and I fully expect that to keep happening as the well known sites are attacked and brought down and the vacuum appears again for startups to fill until they themselves get too big.

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    1. Re:Big names are big targets by jandrese · · Score: 2

      NO *corporate* entity has EVER had ANY success WHATSOEVER in bringing down any service or p2p sharing that is run well and entirely within those networks. They are completely immune to DMCA, criminal or civil attacks.

      No offense, but you are smoking crack. Onion sites get brought down all of the time. The Freedomhosting raid killed like 3/4 of the links on the Hidden Wiki. There are probably more FBI honeypots on TOR than there are "legitimate" kiddie porn sites, and they've had a pretty good run unmasking the users. Even the Silk Road got taken down and the owner thrown in jail. Keeping your site completely anonymous is incredibly difficult, almost as difficult as keeping it running at all on TOR it seems.

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    2. Re:Big names are big targets by Zemran · · Score: 2

      Please, the silk road got taken down by complete accident. The guy had a drugs delivery break open in transit and he was raided for that and they found the server by complete accident. It was not their skill but his stupidity. Yes, they can create honeypots, just like you or I could but they cannot track you.

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  3. Re:Tiniest violin by grahamsaa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not all the affected sites were "making money" off of piracy. What.CD had no ads and was funded exclusively by donations. There was never a profit motive.

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  4. Decentralized Crime by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Piracy has always been a story of decentralization. In fact nearly all crime will inevitably rely on a decentralized process. In order to build a large, powerful organization you can't have a larger, more powerful organization trying stop you.

    We saw this from the beginning. It started with streaming sites and warez sites, but those were trivial to target and eliminate. So people moved on to p2p in order to decentralize the crime. That worked until the law adapted to target the defacto pirates (the application developers). So it moved to even further distributed services: torrents. Without an application developer to pursue the new central authorities which could be attacked were the torrent hosting sites, so the community also developed magnet links to further remove themselves from the process of hosting.

    The inevitable outcome is just that the list of magnet links will also become distributed much like the DNS system.

    1. Re:Decentralized Crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So it moved to even further distributed services: torrents.

      You're wrong, fully decentralized systems (with magnet link support) like ed2k/kad and gnutella alredy existed before bittorent's DHT was a thing, with multiple implementations.
      Bittorrent is a step backwards for decentralization and it only prevailed because it's faster.

    2. Re:Decentralized Crime by Kjella · · Score: 2

      The inevitable outcome is just that the list of magnet links will also become distributed much like the DNS system.

      Doubtful. At some point somebody has to control the index so it doesn't get spammed by bots, you want search/nfo/preview/vote/report/comment features. What I really would like to see though - despite the potential for abuse - is something like an torrent that can be updated. Say you download episode 1x01 of a show, if you "subscribe" to updates the creator can replace it with a 1x01-1x02 torrent, then a 1x01-1x03 torrent and so on without the need to chase down each update. It would probably help seeding and reduce the number of torrents floating around as "megapacks" could be continuously revised and you just pick the bits you want.

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  5. Anonymous Overlay Networks - USE THEM :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since the MAFIAA will never give up, and your protests via clearnet sharing operations both
    a) do not sway lawmakers minds
    b) fail and fall under MAFIAA pressure

    You really should move all your operations exclusively onto the anonymous overlay networks and never ever touch clearnet again.
    We're talking I2P, Phantom, Tor, GnuNet, OnionCat, Pond, etc... an entire ecosystem of virtually impenetrable encrypted anonymous comms and data sharing channels awaits you. Start searching these names and finding all the new tools that are out there for you to use.
    With at least two of these nets, you can plug your favorite torrent clients directly into them because those nets provide a p2p IPv6 tunnel interface.
    And many clients such as Vuze and Transmission (the best two out there) can also speak the native addressing schemes of these networks.

    The benefit is, by keeping all your sharing traffic entirely within these private netoworks,
    you can share and seed 24x7x365 with complete freedom and impunity. A huge fuck you to the MAFIAA.

    And they're fast enough too... you can easily share and fetch all a normal person could ever use... a lossless DVD-9 VOB rip, a couple lossless FLAC CD rips, a game, some books... PER DAY, more than you can consume.

    And the best part is, that you can volunteer to help these networks and your peers by running nodes on these networks and allocating some of your ISP bandwidth to these nets. Plus, you can run your nodes in private services and relay modes, never ever offering or risking outproxy mode if you don't want. AND, you can set up your own websites, gameservers, shell servers... anything you want... all without ever needing to ask your ISP for AUP policy permission, for FREE from your own home.

    These networks are basically THE PERFECT SHARING network solution, but you all have, for MANY YEARS, refused to see and try that.
    GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND, OPEN YOUR EYES, DO NEW THINGS!!!

    Get on the anonymous overlay darknets people.... it's your only hope of survival,
    at least until you organize your efforts therein and come out fighting to take back your rights from the powers that be.

    1. Re:Anonymous Overlay Networks - USE THEM :) by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      The ISP can simply drop packets that don't match whitelisted protocols. 'Darknet' traffic is trivial to block.

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    2. Re:Anonymous Overlay Networks - USE THEM :) by jez9999 · · Score: 2

      You really should move all your operations exclusively onto the anonymous overlay networks and never ever touch clearnet again.

      What would you say about cjdns? It claims to fully encrypt everything and only communicate with trusted peers, and people using it say it is very fast, but it still seems to be quite small and obscure. Does anyone here think it looks like a viable future protocol?

    3. Re:Anonymous Overlay Networks - USE THEM :) by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Then the ISP will be loaded with complaints when each new online multiplayer game comes out, as its datagrams and/or streams will not "match whitelisted protocols."

  6. Whack-a-mole continues by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think it's time we get trackers for trackers to find out what is the latest replacement for a tracker that was just shot down by the content industry.

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    1. Re:Whack-a-mole continues by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Just use Google/Duck Duck Go to search for what you want plus "magnet" or "torrent".

      The Pirate Bay seems pretty reliable for me. VPN to block ISP/music industry interference.

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  7. Re:#1 pirate site YouTube is still up by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    If the creators offer it to you, it ain't piracy.

    Unless of course some giant TV network used his song without licensing it and YouTube's ass backwards automated content watchdog finds out that the same sound bite is used by some no-name artist and Big-Ass-Network, thinks that the BAN has to be the rights holder because it's BAN and the other one is no-name-artist, and suddenly the creator gets a YouTube strike for putting his own creation up on YouTube...

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  8. This is great news! by wardrich86 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The tried to shut down Napster (media-only) and we got Gnutella (allowing us to share ANYTHING). Then they shut down all the major Gnutella apps and we got Torrents. I'm excited to see what the next thing is that we'll get - it gets better with every iteration.

    1. Re:This is great news! by bmo · · Score: 2

      The next iteration is darknets, encrypted end-to-end file sharing, completely under whatever radar they can come up with. I've been farting around with ZeroNet lately and it seems pretty good. And if all of it shuts down, we'll just go back to the ol' "hard drive fulla goodies" passed around like we did back when half of the people who had Internet access had dialup. Good luck tracking that.

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    2. Re:This is great news! by Luthair · · Score: 2

      It even encrypts your data so you don't have to.

    3. Re:This is great news! by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They shutdown torrents and we get Usenet! I love progress.

  9. Re:Tiniest violin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would agree with you if all torrent sites offered were just stupid Hollywood blockbusters, mindless entertainment, but they also offer things that everyone needs to watch to be an educated person. I am from Eastern Europe, where middle-class salaries are around $500/month and we also don't have real public libraries like you do in the West. For me to buy the several hundred films in the cultural canon on Bluray or DVD, it would take me years and so much money that I also wouldn't have anything left over for purchasing culturally important recordings or books. Torrent sites are just as important as Sci-Hub in bringing important information to the average person who doesn't enjoy a huge salary or well-stocked library.

  10. Bad year for piracy? by Wowsers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or the title should read "Good year for the copyright cartel after buying off more politicians and judges with brown envelopes".

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  11. Re:What now? by sims+2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have discs: Handbrake. If you purchased a digital copy: Playlater.

    Just fyi torrents aren't private and Kat is rebuilding at https://katcr.co/new/

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  12. News of their demise is greatly exagerated by Ikonoclasm · · Score: 4, Informative

    As of two weeks ago, KAT is back on the scene.

    https://torrentfreak.com/kicka...

  13. Big-Ass Network violates YouTube TOS by tepples · · Score: 2

    If Big-Ass Network used no-name artist's work without an exclusive license, then BAN is obligated to scrub no-name artist's work from the reference material uploaded to the video host's fingerprinting service. Otherwise, BAN is violating the video host's TOS, and no-name artist has grounds to sue BAN for slander of title.

    On the other hand, if BAN's work came first and no-name artist was subconsciously "inspired" by a BAN work, then no-name artist can be held liable because copyright is strict liability. How can this be avoided?

  14. Yes by Patent+Lover · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank God that Piratebay thing is gone.

  15. Re: 2016~~~ by Zemran · · Score: 2

    Nothing disappeared, it is just moving to new premises.

    http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/

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