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AMD Declares Ryzen Will Be a Four-Year Architecture (extremetech.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ExtremeTech : Having spent over four years designing the architecture, the company plans to keep it around for at least that long. That's according to CTO Mark Papermaster, who was on-hand to discuss the chip. First things first -- AMD is promising a hard launch for Ryzen, without any paper launches, limited availability, or limited product introductions. When Zen debuts it'll debut in multiple (still unknown) configurations, not a single eight-core part. As PCWorld details, Papermaster also confirmed the four-year target and emphasized that it didn't mean AMD wouldn't iterate the core. "We're not going tick-tock," Papermaster said. "Zen is going to be tock, tock, tock." There are several ways to read this sentence. Tick-tock refers to Intel's previous practice of introducing new CPU architectures in one product cycle and new manufacturing nodes in the other. AMD has never strictly deployed an equivalent approach over multiple product cycles. I wouldn't necessarily conclude that Papermaster is saying AMD won't deploy Zen on new manufacturing nodes over time, but that AMD intends to implement an aggressive series of tweaks and improvements to the current core as time goes by. There's a significant lag between when a design tapes out and when it ships to consumers. This means AMD's CPU design team is almost certainly hard at work on Zen's successor already, even though Zen hasn't actually shipped yet. While I can't make any concrete predictions about how Zen will compete against specific products in Intel's lineup, the demos we've seen and the product information already available has convinced me that Ryzen will be at least a meaningful and significant improvement on AMD's overall power efficiency, performance, and performance-per-watt.
Wouldn't it be tick, tick, tick?
Huge paragraph, does create tension in each phrase, yet amazingly 0 information on what the bloody CPU actually does.
..and send some freaking samples to reviewers!
I'd appreciate it if Jay and Linus got their hands on the thing.
It has in the past and competition is a good thing.
AMD, you fuck your CPU's again, and next purchase will be Intel.
Never bought Intel for my own self before. And I had my first PC 16 years ago.
Their architecture is still around two millennia later...
Give us real 8 cores with 8 FPU's. none of this cheap ass corner cutting. Intel has lost their way and you have a chance to become a real contender once again.
8 cores 4 ghz, 8 FPU's and make it faster than hell. go to 5ghz if you want, but some of us do real work and need high speeds in the cores and multiple cores.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Having built 3 flight simulators around the i7 we took a risk on the AMD 8350 for the next machine. The risk paid off. The savings in the CPU allowed us to use dual Nvidia 1070s as opposed to the 970s that are in the other machines.
Since the majority of the workload falls on the Nvidia GPU (3 screens at 5760x1080), for our purposes the AMD based machine is far superior to its Intel counterpart for significantly less money. I would be willing to recommend it for any gaming rig.
The lesson to be learned is to design a machine around its function. Find and eliminate the bottle necks, and don't get hung up on one brand over another.
I say I say I do declare Ryzen will be a four year architecture.
After seeing what CBS is doing to Axanar Productions, perhaps AMD wanted to avoid exclusive rights in the "tick, tick, tick" theme song from CBS's 60 Minutes.
are awaiting Hillarys comeback
Buzz off, troll. Just because the orange conman won by the white skin of his supremracist morons doesn't make you any less of an angry hatefucker
What I'm looking for right now is motherboards! Where is ASUS in all their lineup? They have a B350? Where is their X370's? It's going to be Gigabyte and ASUS so I need all various iterations of the motherboards to be in reviews hands now so that I can decide and have it a couple weeks before the processors come out. Then the processor can arrive by overnight mail and voila. I might have even bought they old processor in the new AM4 package to bootstrap with.
You must be real young. You apparently dont remember the beginning of Intel/AMD, And the dirty tactics that Intel pulled that ultimately lead to the situation AMD is in, With people automatically badmouthing their products. And you must have forgotten about AMD64 OR maybe the first Ghz processor? Were you not alive for that one? Maybe the $5 Billion dollar lawsuit won by AMD vs Intel for said dirty tactics.
What AMD REALLY needs is mainstream software that takes advantage of their specialized instructions sets. Nearly all mainstream stuff uses intel microcode; where-as very little takes advantage of AMD's great microcode. Intel's big $$$ buys mainstream developers. Government agencies are too freak'n DUMD to realize the anti-trust nature of this practice.
Given an app that take full advantage of an AMD CPU, you will find that even that 4-5 year old chip architecture is quite a value (i.e. dollar-for-dollar) better than intel.