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Japan is Testing USB Phone Charging Stations in Public Transport Buses (thenextweb.com)

According to Japanese news outlet IT Media, a public transport bus in the Tokyo area has introduced, and is currently testing, USB charging stations for commuter phones and tablets. From a report: While the local Bureau of Transportation hasn't formally announced or confirmed the trials, numerous passengers so far have reported seeing the charging ports. The service runs free of charge, with at least five of these wall-mounted charging hotspots placed inside the bus. According to reports, the service is currently available solely in a single bus. It remains unclear how long testing will continue or whether it will eventually roll out to more buses. Japan isn't the only country to have offered phone charging stations in public transport vehicles. Last September, London also equipped a limited number of busses with USB chargers. Similarly, Singapore ran trials with wall-mounted phone chargers on at least 10 buses in September last year.

71 comments

  1. Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We've had those for in quite a few buses for a year or so.

    1. Re: Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here in Berlin, Germany

    2. Re:Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, but this is Japan. Heck, given the right button presses by the driver, tentacles probably come out of those things!

    3. Re:Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Of course not, don't be ridiculous. However, when you charge your phone you do get hentai pictures added to your photo library.

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    4. Re:Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Lorens · · Score: 1

      Same in Barcelona, I just noticed them today.

    5. Re:Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Baloo+Uriza · · Score: 1

      Same with Tulsa, Oklahoma...which that and really comfortable stations appears to be the only two things Tulsa's ahead of the curve on transit-wise.

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    6. Re:Sounds like Helsinki, Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some long-distance Dutch lines feature the same. (Plus free Wi-Fi, individual climate control, adjustable seat and foot-rest and much better seat cushions than the trains have. I much prefer the bus, even if it takes a little longer.)

  2. Always wear a condom by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Fun to see public USBs rise in popularity with credit card skimmers. At least we're all smart enough to use USB condoms, right?

    1. Re:Always wear a condom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blackberry has an option to force USB port to charge-only. I wonder if other phone OS's have something like that.

    2. Re:Always wear a condom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Pixel seems to. When you connect via USB you get a notification, if you tap it you get a popup "Use USB to", defaulted to "Charge this device". You have to select one of the other options if you want to do anything else, every time you connect. I have a feeling it was the same with my Nexus 5.

    3. Re:Always wear a condom by Bugler412 · · Score: 1

      Windows 10 Phone (fwiw, yeah, yeah, yeah go ahead and snipe) prompts each time upon connection by default whether to use USB data or not. I wouldn't trust it against a hacked/co-opted USB port though. Firmware level exploits and all....

    4. Re:Always wear a condom by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      Precisely this. My first thought when reading the headline was the follow-up article: 'Japanese Hackers Testing USB Phone Attacks at Charging Stations in Public Transport Buses'.

      There should be a USB condom with an identifier or specialised port that is required to use the USB chargers, and condoms should be supplied.

    5. Re:Always wear a condom by dugancent · · Score: 1

      The iPhone won't connect to an unknown device unless you authorize it after unlocking.

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    6. Re:Always wear a condom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? My first thought was, "Fight erupts on Japanese bus due to argument over access to phone chargers."

    7. Re:Always wear a condom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Japan, a civilized country. Your thought would be appropriate for third-world countries like the U.S.A. however.

    8. Re:Always wear a condom by I4ko · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter. The handshake has already taken place at that point. Do you think it is fail safe and bug free? No it isn't.
        The EU commission made a very retarded decision to push phone manufacturers to the faulty by design microusb port for both data and changing. Charging should have been on a standardized barrel jack with varying voltage - 3 to 48. And data should have been standardized on the much more robust port mini usb. You know, the one that doesn't come off the board with the cable when you remove it about 50 times.

    9. Re:Always wear a condom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how secure that feature actually is, and whether it actually makes a difference

    10. Re:Always wear a condom by lalleglad · · Score: 1

      I agree with you that allowing both data and charging on the same port has safety issues, but because of the advantages it has from a competitive point of view, I think EU was right in doing so anyway.
      The issues will then have to be dealt with, and as others have pointed out, some Android devices ask the user permission to do this or that, with the port.

      However, I do not at all agree with regarding the advantages of the mini vs. the micro USB port!
      The micro USB mechanics may have challenges, but in my opinion the mini USB mechanics is total crap!
      I have yet to have any experience with the USB-C, but it should be tested and considered, if it is better.

    11. Re:Always wear a condom by I4ko · · Score: 1

      That is the thing, the issues are dealt with a new device because the manufacturers like it that way - sustainable growth they say, omitting to tell you that is sustains the growth of sales, not the other way around. I don't want to buy a new device after each bug is fixed and throw an otherwise perfectly good one in the trash.

      The USB-C connector was not available when EU standardized the port, and it has its own issues on the electrical side. Yes, it is better than the micro, and perhaps the mini, but I have devices with mini that I use consistently since 2006 and they all work just fine today, mixing their original cables.

        Yes, I know the design of the micro is supposed to support more insertion/removal cycles of than the mini, but it is wrong. There is just more material in the mini, and it is in practice much more robust. Out of the devices I have with micro ports, 6 of them had the socket detach from the PCB while pulling out the cable and more often than not, lifting traces along the way. It is pain in the behind to solder these back, and that works only if those traces are intact. The fact that nobody tells you is that micro connects are good for devices that will die in a year anyway. And most of the times the sockets are so cheap that I had friends push the cable backwards, because the socket's sides were not slated, and in the process damage the free standing pin header.
       
      As much as I don't like to admit it, the lighting connector is probably the best from material, durability and electrical perspective. Too bad it is encumbered with patents and DRM.

    12. Re:Always wear a condom by lalleglad · · Score: 1

      I don't have a lot of experience with the lighting connector, but I can see that the idea of not having to care about the insert direction is good, and fortunately that was adapted by USB-C.

      My experiences with mini vs. micro USB is however the reverse of what yours seems to be.
      Mini is larger and should probably be more solid, but perhaps it is just clumsy, and for sure it took up a lot of space on the host side, which I believe was one of the main drivers to go for the micro.

      I will however admit, that I don't like the USB 3 version of micro USB.
      I have one external HD with that, and it looks very flimsy.

  3. Is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here in the UK all modern buses has charging ports. I even advised my son on how to make a charge only cable so they couldn't be used to inject malware onto his devices.

  4. Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Japan, it is a different culture, but here in the US, free USB charging ports would not last a day before someone plugs in a USB Killer, squirts epoxy in the holder, or just urinates on the plug out of spite.

    1. Re:Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I usually just use chewing gum.

    2. Re:Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      Bar's have them some airports as well.

    3. Re: Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on the location. If you install USB ports in some seedy back alley, yeah, they'll be violated in short order.

      But I've seen USB ports alongside standard 5-15 outlets in airports, libraries and bars exist unmolested.

    4. Re:Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Japan, it is a different culture, but here in the US

      What a very PC way to say that Japan can have nice things specifically because everyone in Japanese is Japanese instead of some variant of sub-human.

    5. Re:Those wouldn't last long in the US... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful. People might think you're this guy: "anonscans" AKA BeSureToActuallyReaD AKA Anticrack.

  5. One bus... by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    USB charging ports on one bus in Japan. What will they think of next? Devices attached to the seats on which a person can rest their arms? Texturing on the floor to prevent a person from slipping if their shoes are wet? Electrically operated devices affixed to the interior of the bus that emit photons so people can see when it's night time?

    Slashdot, please keep us abreast of such groundbreaking advancements!

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  6. USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [..] the service is currently available solely in a single bus.

    But on the plus side, it's now a Universal Serial Bus!

  7. Commonplace in Sweden by Henriok · · Score: 2

    Wow! Almost all new buses built the past few years have USB ports for charging, at least in western Sweden where the Volvo buses are built. What is there to test? Just do it!

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  8. UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bus I use regularly has had USB charge points and free wifi for a few months now. The wifi is pretty bad and the chargers are 1 amp though, but it's a step in the right direction. http://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport-news/2016/09/08/all-aboard-8m-luxury-buses-take-to-streets-of-the-black-country/

  9. This isn't news by datbagelboi · · Score: 1

    USB charging ports on public transport has been in place all over the world for a long time. Why is anyone interested?

  10. Denmark too by rbpOne · · Score: 1

    Ive seen this in plenty of busses in Greater Copenhagen.

    I dont quite trust strange USB ports enough to actually plug my phone into one tho.

    1. Re:Denmark too by Jens+Egon · · Score: 1

      This is why there is such a thing as usb-condoms.

  11. Stagecoach in the UK have them already by rklrkl · · Score: 1

    I was on a Stagecoach bus recently in the UK and they had a USB charging port placed fairly low between each set of two seats (plus ports on the side below the window for the front sets of seats). I believe their fleet refit in late 2016 added them in. Apart from nicer (faux?) leather seats, the new bus also had *much* better onboard free wi-fi than their previous generation of buses too. A shame no-one but me ever seems to use the free wi-fi on the bus though!

    1. Re:Stagecoach in the UK have them already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you this guy???

    2. Re:Stagecoach in the UK have them already by bsdewhurst · · Score: 1

      In New Zealand, Auckland Transport updated their requirements for new buses that all operators of AT services must follow in 2015. One requirement was that USB ports must be installed in at least every second row (on each side), other requirements include wifi and monitors showing up to date route information an announcements. With all the contracts being re-tendered between the end of last year and early next year about half of all buses will have these features bythe end of next year. These are local buses running around a city.

  12. Go Wireless by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    Why not wireless? It eliminates the USB hacking concern. But there is more...no cable breakage, tangling, connector problems.

    1. Re: Go Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of awkward to set the device on the wireless charger and use it at the same time.

    2. Re:Go Wireless by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      How many competing standards are there for wireless charging? You can be an early loser (the 67% + accurate spelling of "early adopter") on this. I'm perfectly content to let you waste your money on a system that gets dropped. I'll wait until I can't count the number of global "wireless charging innovation" billion pound bankruptcies without taking my shoes off.

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  13. How is this news? by sizzlinkitty · · Score: 1

    Denver has had USB charging on its regional buses for over a year now.

    1. Re:How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arriva in the UK has had a USB charge socket in the back of most seats for at least 6 months in my city, along with free WiFi and even some mains power sockets (and crashed bus electronics if somehttps://hardware.slashdot.org/story/17/01/20/1558251/japan-is-testing-usb-phone-charging-stations-in-public-transport-buses#one uses hair curlers in them).

  14. NYC has tons of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    NYC introduced a whole fleet of buses with USB charging ports (and WiFi) in May 2016.

    1. Re:NYC has tons of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised they'd last in North America and didn't' instantly get gum put in them.

    2. Re:NYC has tons of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about creating a ruggedized connector with a sliding bar in the rear and an eject button to push out any crap that might get inserted?
      Or even add a solenoid so it can automatically push out when the bus service stops.

  15. Re:Not on your life by ctilsie242 · · Score: 2

    I'd just let the USB ports charge my external battery. Then, charge my good stuff with the battery. There are also "USB condoms" which cut the data ports and only allow charging.

  16. They use USB-A sockets by monkeyxpress · · Score: 1

    It's going to be hilarious when all the new MacBook owners have finished converted everything to USB-C and then realize they can't plug things into a bus without a dongle.

    1. Re:They use USB-A sockets by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      Or just use a USB-A to USB-C cable? Like I do with my Nexus 5x. Hilarious.

  17. Get a charge-only USB cable for your phone! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    If this sort of thing becomes commonplace, my recommendation to you all is to get a charge-only USB cable for your phone, i.e. one that does not have the Data pair connected. Unless, of course, you really don't care if your phone gets hacked. Technology like this could easily be subverted, either by governments or by criminal organizations, to become attack vectors against unsuspecting smartphone owners.

    If you can't find a 'charge only' USB cable, you can make your own easily enough out of a normal USB cable, even without any technical expertise to speak of. Take a regular USB cable appropriate for your phone, and with an Xacto or similar razor knife, carefully slit the outer jacket open lengthwise for 2 to 3 inches. You'll find a braided shield, foil shielding, or both; open these up and move them aside so you can get to the 4 wires within. You'll find a red wire and a black wire; leave these alone, they're 'power' and 'ground' respectively. The other pair of wires (very often green and white), twisted together, are the 'Data' pair; cut these, and remove a small section so they don't accidentally connect to each other again. Wrap the cable back up in electrical tape, and you're done. You should be able to plug into any USB port and charge your phone with no data connection to the phone from the port you're charging from.

    1. Re: Get a charge-only USB cable for your phone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This sounds exactly like a vasectomy.

    2. Re: Get a charge-only USB cable for your phone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I remember correctly, the phone/device side of the cut needs to have green-white connected to each other (shorted out) which is how the phone/device detects it can draw higher power rates. The power/computer side of the cut needs to have them stay separated. This kind of cable, however, can cause overloading if plugged into a power source that isn't rated for the higher draw.

    3. Re:Get a charge-only USB cable for your phone! by Solandri · · Score: 1

      A charge-only USB cable won't protect your phone from a rogue device placed on the bus by a miscreant designed to send 10,000 Volts through the cable.

    4. Re:Get a charge-only USB cable for your phone! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      First of all, 10kV would possibly arc across the air-gap in a USB connector, and secondly, I'd think it much more likely criminal organizations would like to hijack your phone for fun and profit, and not so much that some asshole would like to destroy people's phones. But by all means just avoid them entirely if that's what you're comfortable with.

  18. The only questions are: by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    Why it took so long?

    Why is it not available in more public places?

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  19. Re: Not on your life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the real question is how much damage a subverted USB port can do even without some data-related hack. Most phones won't use the cable for data unless you say it's okay. What happens if the voltage isn't 5V but 500V instead?

    How resilient are devices (including external batteries) to flagrant violations of the USB spec? Is there a voltage regulator in the phone? That's usually in the brick you plug into the wall to convert to USB. What about a current regulator? Capacitors can do nasty things do devices that aren't protected.

  20. Public USB charging ports are a vulnerability by Darth+Technoid · · Score: 2

    Security Vector Alert. It seems to me that public UBS charging ports are a way for security vulnerabilities to be spread amongst the popululation. I assume that someone is already working on a way to implant malware in those ports. It's like kissing everyone in the city during an Ebola epidemic.

    1. Re:Public USB charging ports are a vulnerability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously--you're using this currently miniscule threat to throw water on this idea? First of all, the incidence of charging exploits is pretty low so I'm not too worried at the present time. Second, there are plenty of charge-only cables with no data lines, and there are plenty of USB data block devices available which also serve to prevent data from traversing a charge/sync cable (one example below). Providing people with options to charge their phones is a public service and should be encouraged. Educating people that there might be a risk is valid, but also educate them on the incredibly simple measures they can take to completely nullify that risk while retaining the benefit.

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0DW3F8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (I'm not affiliated with this company, but I have 4 of these and they are marvelous for my work laptop where I'm not allowed to synch and for public charging stations)

      You're obviously a glass half-empty kinda person....

    2. Re:Public USB charging ports are a vulnerability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seriously--you're using this currently miniscule threat to throw water on this idea? First of all, the incidence of charging exploits is pretty low so I'm not too worried at the present time. Second, there are plenty of charge-only cables with no data lines, and there are plenty of USB data block devices available which also serve to prevent data from traversing a charge/sync cable (one example below). Providing people with options to charge their phones is a public service and should be encouraged. Educating people that there might be a risk is valid, but also educate them on the incredibly simple measures they can take to completely nullify that risk while retaining the benefit.

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T0DW3F8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (I'm not affiliated with this company, but I have 4 of these and they are marvelous for my work laptop where I'm not allowed to synch and for public charging stations)

      You're obviously a glass half-empty kinda person....

      The cigarette lighter jack is not really a bad idea here. You can easily plug in your own 12V to 5V converter, and with no data lines there is no data risk. Also 12V (or whatever the battery voltage is in japan) is a bit better for distribution. I suppose someone could still fry other phones if they want to really get creative, but if that happens close the doors and wait for the police. The worst case would be someone leaving a destructive device on the bus, but well, by the time they get whacked with terrorism charges for their stupid crap, I think they will stop.

      Also with the 12V connection (or whatever) you could potentially make more power available. Running a laptop becomes feasible. Too much would blow a self resetting circuit breaker... Perhaps they could even go to say 28V or so like aircraft. That would allow running a decent laptop without dangerous currents.

  21. Idea! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    Build a small raspberry pi machine that is programmed to install spyware on any phone connecting to it via usb port. Also steal as much data as it could and broadcast it via wifi to the mother ship. Pack it nicely, slap stickers saying "Free courtesy phone charging outlet from Port Authority of New York. (To make it useful to more commuters this outlet is programmed to stop charging after 30 minutes. Please disconnect in 30 minutes. Thank you for your cooperation)". Leave it plugged into outlets at various public buildings.

    (Read it as an unordered bullet list with ... and profit. Thank you. )

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  22. Do you know what this means? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That there is a big-ass charger. Dang, I miss my ole charger.

  23. Re:Not on your life by I4ko · · Score: 2

    There is a USB controller in that external battery. Usually firmware flash-able. It is not safe enough. Have them provide 110-220V outlets and plug your trusted AC charger in it.

  24. Another great tech that will never make it to NA by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    All I see is another piece of useful technology that would never survive in North America, because we can't have nice things.

    If this was made available in the US, I would give it a month before people started using USB killers, or suing the city for a million dollars and claiming it somehow 'broke' their phone.

  25. Meanwhile by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    The much vaunted Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority is still stuck in the 20th century as far as fare collection, let alone having charging stations or mobile hotspots. But then Trump is going to make everything ... just great. It'll be just great. Puke!

  26. Re:Another great tech that will never make it to N by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cambridge MA has benches with solar USB chargers all around the city. Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood?

  27. Washington DC by strstr · · Score: 1

    DC Connector buses have USB ports of them. Not just one bus, multiple. The standard WMATA buses don't yet have it though.

    1. Re:Washington DC by strstr · · Score: 1

      road a megabus from DC to Pittsburgh or possibly Pittsburgh to DC- the bus had USB ports located above head of each passenger.

      seems like the features installed on the latest model buses.

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  28. Call me old fashioned, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A public USB port should be approached like a public fleshlight.

  29. pfff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poland had them for years. It's only news when Japan/USA/Germoney/UK catch up with the times.

  30. They've been in Japan for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know what this article is talking about. I live in Shizuoka prefecture and my local bus has had USB charging stations on the back of each seat for a few years. AND it has free wifi. It is possible that some Tokyo bus company is exploring this concept, but they are *far* from the first.

  31. Why is this needed on a bus? by Agripa · · Score: 1

    So are trips on the bus in Japan a waste of time time or do their phones have insufficient battery capacity?