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The Brief, Bumbling Tech Careers of Lady Gaga, Alicia Keys, and Will.i.am (backchannel.com)

"Four years ago this week, Blackberry named Alicia Keys its global creative officer... Keys was really going to work for Blackberry -- to participate in weekly calls addressing product development; develop ideas and content for the Keep Moving Projects, which targeted artists and athletes; and of course, promote the brand during her upcoming tour... It didn't work." Slashdot reader mirandakatz writes: For a minute in history, it was oh-so-cool for legacy tech companies to hire pop stars... In 2005, HP brought Gwen Stefani on as a creative director. In 2010, Lady Gaga landed the job of creative director at Polaroid. In 2011, Will.i.am was the director of creative innovation at Intel. In 2012, Microsoft brought on Jessica Alba as creative director to promote its Windows Phone 8.

These roles were all touted as far more involved than the mere celebrity pitchman: The artists promised, to varying degrees, to dive into the business. But in all of these cases, the strategy failed. At Backchannel, Jessi Hempel dives into why that is, and how big names in entertainment are now finding other ways to harness the momentum of tech.

Lady Gaga left Polaroid in less than a year after "collaborating" on video camera sunglasses that offered playback through LCD lenses. While they weren't popular, this article argues most of these tech companies "faced structural business issues too significant to be addressed through celebrity branding and artistic energy." One digital ad agency even tells the site that "It's always been a flawed strategy," and calls the hiring of a celebrity "a press cycle hack."

97 comments

  1. Only the most gullible think... by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that these slebs are directing or creating anything. They're there to add some glitz and glamour to a fading or jaded brand, nothing more. They turn up to pre arranged photo opportunities, mouth off some vacuous rubbish pre-prepared by the marketing dept then head off back to their lives with a fat cheque in their back pockets. Its all very very cynical.

    1. Re:Only the most gullible think... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome my 'Beats by Dre' headphones are.

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    2. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, and I'm sure Dr Dre was deeply involved in the electronic and acoustic design of them!

      Oh more likely:

      "Yo, I like red init! Dem is a cool colour blood!"

      "Ok, Mr Dre, we'll make some red ones too. Now just sign your name here for our design guys .. yes, heres a crayon, no, you hold it this way around... well done."

    3. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    4. Re:Only the most gullible think... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That was my thought as well. And even if they actually do have something creative or insightful to contribute, hire them as a consultant to take part in focus groups or steering committees. Naming them director of anything is an insult to any of the other employees who do make a meaningful contribution. And to the other directors.

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    5. Re: Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's actually one of the better examples. Beats by Dr Dre (which I think make shitty headphones) are actually commercially successful before Apple bought them. Android fanbois (if you believe they exist) will say both are successful in a sort of fanboish way and thus the weird synergy (if you think the word means anything).

      As for the other celebs, the companies did it wrong. These Celebs are a product. Most of those mentioned are "created" by their producers plus creative and management team.

      When you see Miley Cirrus turn slutty trailer trash, it's because their producers and management team "created" the transformation.

      Do you seriously think Kathy Perry Is being herself when she spend like half a day Everyday doing candy makeup?

      They are a product and using a product to sell another works for making it a better deal, it does not actually improve anything and beyond the "bundle offer period" doesn't make either product better or more desirable.

    6. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Yo, I like red init! Dem is a cool colour blood!"

      LOL, they're Beats by Dre, not Beats by Ali G. Americans don't say "init" (or "innit").

    7. Re:Only the most gullible think... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I didn't know Dre was British ;-)

      From what I can tell he had a consultation role on the sound of early Beats models. The tech was developed in partnership with Monster, which tells you most of what you need to know. They basically have a built in hip-hop EQ that you can't turn off: heavy bass, pronounced highs that are about 80% distortion anyway, and a shitty soundstage because it's a mixing desk and a sampler, not an actual soundstage.

      Don't get me wrong, I like hip hop, just not Beats.

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    8. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever you think of the headphones (I agree with you BTW) you cannot argue that the collaboration was not a success.

    9. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dre was doing some coding in Forth earlier that day, and he had a module named Red that had an initialize option. no idea what the ! was doing at the end of that line.

    10. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Cool racism bro.

    11. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Artistic license :)

    12. Re: Only the most gullible think... by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ditto. Listening to the radio my 14yo daughter listens to, I hear the same rotation on all but two stations (gangsta rap/sucka noizez there*), with a 'new' song every two weeks and standards hanging on for months, intentionally marketing songs about rape, promiscuity, and random violence to teens too young to drive, a product placement I'm afraid I understand, hoping I'm wrong. I'm old enough to claim rock n roll stations did something similar to this decades ago chasing the Billboard Top 40 like a dog chases butt, though I listened to slightly more edgy rock then** and those stations seemed to hold on to stuff longer but cycled in new music for a trial before Billboard know how to spell the title.

      Feh. The current hip-hop/rap music scene is so manufactured it's industrial.

      * I don't let her listen to those two stations in my presence any more. I know she does when I'm not around, but she knows why I don't want her to hear that in the car with me. I cannot, literally cannot sit in the car with her when those lyrics come out. It's offensive, degrading, and I cannot permit it in my hearing.

      ** I listened to WLOB in Portland, Maine back in the late 60s and discovered metal late at night on my transistor with earphone, wiked decent***. When I moved 2 hours north and asked the local top radio DJ to play some Led Zeppelin, he told me 'Northern Maine isn't ready for that yet'. He was right. I was in hibernation for 3 years until I joined the service and re-entered civilization.

      *** That radio also let me listen to space launches in school. And win arguments over technical details like abort plans, down range safety, and comms with my so-called science teacher. Thanks,Dad. I need to buy and rebuild a red ChannelMaster 6506 with the leather case and earphone pouch (:

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    13. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome my 'Beats by Dre' headphones are.

      The absolute gold standard for listening to autotuned lyrics.

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    14. Re:Only the most gullible think... by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny you mention IQ. Lady Gaga was in the same program at johns hopkins that the founder of google and facebook were, the one that took the top 1% smartest kids. I mean I'm sure YOU have an IQ that is even higher than that, and you have an online test that proves it. Alternatively, I'm sure that since posting that you've had the sudden insight that IQ doesn't measure anything real anyway.

      Name a guy or woman you think is smart from the tech sector. Make them talk about entertainment or something they don't have a background in. "Man, (insert name here) is an idiot with an IQ of a half a box of doorknobs!"

      Stupid is as stupid does, and all these celebrities you're saying are dumb are without question successful at what they've attempted to do, IQ number aside. None appear to have been the product of dumb luck or mommy and daddy money from what I can tell.

      Seriously slashdot, the basement dwelling anonymous trolls are getting to be too much of a distraction, as are the morons with mod points who thought "They're dumb!" is insightful.

    15. Re:Only the most gullible think... by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      When Beats first was released, there was a DJ booth in Best Buy promoting them, so the customers could hear for themselves how awesome they were. However, when I went to check it out, there was NOBODY standing around the booth, and the DJ was looking kinda lonely. I wanted to say to him, "What's the matter Mr. DJ? Doesn't anyone like your music?"

    16. Re:Only the most gullible think... by freeze128 · · Score: 2

      Dr. Dre isn't a real Doctor.

    17. Re:Only the most gullible think... by rikkards · · Score: 1

      Said employees and directors get compensated through pay and other methods for their contributions.
      When they have as many followers as the celebrities do that may result in the company some more sales , they can be called anything they want as well. Until then they can shut up and get back to work

    18. Re:Only the most gullible think... by elgatozorbas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, and I'm sure Dr Dre was deeply involved in the electronic and acoustic design of them!

      TBH, you cannot expect a surgeon to be an expert at acoustic design as well.

    19. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can expect a producer like Dre however to know a thing or two about it. If Dre just rapped or wrote lyrics you would have a point. He spent a whole lot of years mixing and producing works by a whole lot of artists you've most definitely heard of. While I wouldn't call him a genius I don't think he is anywhere near as dim as people make him out to be here.

    20. Re: Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News update: Dr Dre has signed a deal with developers of Systemd to bring his artistic and technical genius to their great products. This is a synergy made in heaven. Lenhart was quoted as saying: "Finally, with help from Dre, we can bring systemD and pulse audio to the common man".

    21. Re: Only the most gullible think... by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't they load Beats with weights so they feel heavy and 'substantial'?

      Haha yup they do...

      http://www.digitaltrends.com/h...
      http://gizmodo.com/how-beats-t...
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

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    22. Re: Only the most gullible think... by negRo_slim · · Score: 0

      How is you pissing amd moaning and feeding of the cowards any better tho?

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    23. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gaga's dad is a tech millionaire. That probably had something to do with it.

    24. Re: Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you see Miley Cirrus turn slutty trailer trash, it's because their producers and management team "created" the transformation.

      I must most strongly disagree. Miley Cyrus IS slutty trailer trash. It was everything else that's fake.

    25. Re:Only the most gullible think... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Given how they sound I'm sure that he did in fact design them himself with his only input from a 2 year old on how good the acoustics are.

    26. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >and you have an online test that proves it.
      HehHeh, an online test. Just like my online priesthood certification. Authentic!

    27. Re:Only the most gullible think... by Agripa · · Score: 1

      They basically have a built in hip-hop EQ that you can't turn off: heavy bass, ...

      Hear that? I love the sound of intermodulation in the morning.

    28. Re:Only the most gullible think... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      That makes sense if you consider pay and benefits to be the only rewards for work. But for many people recognition is part of those "other methods" of compensation. It's not something you're entitled to, but it can be a valuable reward which comes more or less at no cost to the employer. Hiring someone as director purely on the strength of their celebrity status can be as detrimental to morale and motivation as promoting some dimwit to management purely because he is a cousin of the founder.

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  2. If companies do weird stuff like that by grungeman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    their end is near, because it is done out of sheer desperation. This was true in the past and will be in the future. Keep that in mind, my young friends.

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    1. Re:If companies do weird stuff like that by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      their end is near, because it is done out of sheer desperation...

      That depends on the company.

      Speaking of weird stuff, we've seen more than our fair share of corporations literally piss money away on Superbowl advertising time to not do a damn thing with it other than gain a sizeable tax write-off.

      There are many reasons to make decisions about revenue that may not make sense on the surface. Some mega-corps today hold a metric fuckton of cash reserves. When $30 million is considered a rounding error, you can certainly afford to take on the oddball venture or two, and would hardly be ringing the doomsday bell.

  3. Actually hiring people ifrom showbiz could work. by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine Clint Eastwood as system manager.

  4. lenovo did this too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lenovo + ashton kutcher = lol.

    1. Re:lenovo did this too by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Dude, you're getting a Lenovo

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  5. celebs as innovation leaders... by uulbri · · Score: 0

    When it started happening, we were all shocked thinking part of the money for high-tech gadgets would go to these so-called celebs... It was opening the door to basically anything. Then why not elect a reality TV show presenter as president...

  6. Companies that try too hard to be cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember the Dell dude, another attempt at making technology cool. In fact technology sells no matter if a celebrity or artists supports them. People need technology but not because a Gaga endorses it. Of course it's a attention thing, and a marketing tool to get someone notable to endorse your product.
    I've always said companies like AMD needed to do more marketing to get people to recognize it as a brand. Microsoft as we know spends a lot of advertising but probably does the worst at using marketing well. Like that Dell dude that turned out to be a druggy. Those things can really backfire.

    1. Re: Companies that try too hard to be cool by BlytheBowman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Better a druggy than a pedo. I am sure Subway is still having a hard time living that one down.

    2. Re:Companies that try too hard to be cool by SharpFang · · Score: 2

      There are tech companies that benefit from the celebrity endorsement, being "fashionable brands". Apple, Dr. Dre, GoPro.

      It's really hard to gain the "fashionable" status though, and unless you already have it, you won't benefit from celebrities. And if you're an established "office" brand like Dell, Microsoft or IBM, you have precisely zero chance at ever becoming "hip". Your best bet is to create an entirely new brand (a'la Lenovo), bury the connection to the parent company so deep you need a forensics expert to find it, and promote it as the "new hip" thing using funds, tech and supply chain of the "real company" but keeping the original brand as far as possible.

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    3. Re:Companies that try too hard to be cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are tech companies that benefit from the celebrity endorsement, being "fashionable brands". Apple, Dr. Dre, GoPro.

      It's really hard to gain the "fashionable" status though, and unless you already have it, you won't benefit from celebrities. And if you're an established "office" brand like Dell, Microsoft or IBM, you have precisely zero chance at ever becoming "hip". Your best bet is to create an entirely new brand (a'la Lenovo), bury the connection to the parent company so deep you need a forensics expert to find it, and promote it as the "new hip" thing using funds, tech and supply chain of the "real company" but keeping the original brand as far as possible.

      Well... can anyone remember ANY celebrities who've endorsed Apple or GoPro???
      Anyone?

    4. Re:Companies that try too hard to be cool by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Steve Jobs? ;)
      Never mind product placement in all-star movie superproductions.

      GoPro gets a lot of "product placement" from Youtube 'celebrities'.

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  7. Those aren't tech jobs by BlytheBowman · · Score: 2

    It's the jobs they have in the BSF department (bullshut fluff)

  8. Re:Incompatible culture by SharpFang · · Score: 0

    Do they leverage synergy in these letters yet?
    If not, there's still hope.

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  9. What bothers me... by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    ...is that you know at every one of those companies, people got the "I'm sorry, I know you work hard and do a good job, you really do, but we simply can't afford to give you that $3000/year raise you're asking for" while they paid these celebrity "employees" hundreds of thousands.

    I get it, it's more like a marketing cost than a salary, but that's bullshit.

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    1. Re:What bothers me... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It's when that marketing cost pays off that there is money for bonuses and raises. The only reason you think it's bullshit in this case is that it didn't pay off.

  10. Dr. Seuss by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

    I am Will, and Will I am.

    1. Re:Dr. Seuss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it's pronounced WilldotIdotAm.

    2. Re:Dr. Seuss by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly, he managed to be up on tech enough to snag is name on the .am TLD.

  11. Forgot one by wbr1 · · Score: 0

    Seems like you handily forgot Trent Reznor. Who still works at Apple music although he seems to be a whiny little b**** now instead of giving away his music for free he wants to complain about streaming on YouTube

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    1. Re:Forgot one by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Less forgot, more ignored.

      Who is this, anyway?

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    2. Re:Forgot one by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      Ever hear of Nine Inch Nails? That is Trent Reznor's project.

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    3. Re: Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! I member NiN!

    4. Re: Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What were we talking about again? Oh yea I member Trent reznor. Ohhhh yea I member.

    5. Re:Forgot one by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So that's why I didn't hear anything about them for years?

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  12. ...ridiculous co-branding trend... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...these were all part of the same business cycle in which lotus cars "hired" swizz beats (alicia keys' husband and producer) as its chief creative officer, despite his absolute lack of qualifications and automotive knowledge...after the intitial flurry of absurd press releases, his sum total contributions as "CCO" consisted a lotus name-drop in one of his rap songs and taking receipt of a pair of new evoras for he and his wife to drive at high-profile public appearances, after which everybody quietly moved on and pretended the whole absurd episode never happened... ...i suspect all these musician C-suite co-branding gigs were masterminded by a common entertainment manager they all shared; marketed to struggling corporations desperate to buy street credibility and become "cool brands" in the public eye... ...it was a transparently-vacuous corporate trend from its outset, probably brainstormed by some clueless MBA marketing drone without a clue that innovative *products* drive public affection and business success; good riddance...

  13. Maybe because by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    No one needs singing idiots in the IT industry. Their vocal talents are indisputable however it's what not people are seeking for when they're choosing new tech toys to buy.

    Another confirmation of my statement is the fact that no one has offered a similar position to Brian May, who's a rare scientist in the pop sphere.

    1. Re:Maybe because by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

      Autotune is indisputable.

  14. Are these "stars" controlling their own celebrity? by swb · · Score: 2

    What I find surprising is that these positions (no matter how vacuous their actual roles really were) are being given to celebrities who probably aren't even all that responsible for their own celebrity.

    They themselves are quite often the products of PR agents, media handlers, producers, song writing "collaborators", and marketing campaigns. Giving them a job to provide visionary leadership assumes they are themselves responsible for their own successes and are wholly self-made.

    I'd also wonder if these celebrities, especially the pop music stars, go in for these jobs on the downward arc of their careers, taking them to keep their own PR buzz going when their principal popularity is fading.

    Now none of this is to say that these people are wholly talentless hacks, either, but in the realm of long-duration talent the list of people mentioned seem like pop music footnotes, not long-duration artists known for the depth of their creativity.

  15. "Tech careers"? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    So being a janitor in a car factory would count, too, I presume? I mean, that's about as far from an engineering role as a "creative director", whatever that is.

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    1. Re:"Tech careers"? by thomst · · Score: 1

      K. S. Kyosuke opined:

      So being a janitor in a car factory would count, too, I presume? I mean, that's about as far from an engineering role as a "creative director", whatever that is.

      Uh ... Steve Jobs?

      He had essentially zero technical chops. He DID have a superb grasp of design, but his major talent - you know, the one that killed him - was marketing. He was so successful at it that he sold himself on the notion that he could rid himself of his cancer by willpower alone.

      You can have a successful career in tech without ANY engineering talent - because the tech industry is based as much on marketing and product design as it is on hardware and software development. Build a better mousetrap and you'll wind up with a garage full of unsold mousetraps without the marketing and PR staff to actually SELL them to customers ...

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    2. Re:"Tech careers"? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Well it seems that the two of us have very different notions of what "tech career" is. However, I never questioned the fact that there are not-technical people as well in industrial companies.

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  16. They are not partners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeh, they did a years adverts as contracted then moved on. So how is this anything to do with the celebrities?? Of course they move on when the contract expires. Their job is to put out a lot of tweets and be seen wearing the product!

    Fashion design is the same, often the name is the name of the owner not the designers (e.g. Ford doesn't design the clothes, he approves the designs from his team), or fake made up people which are simply employees of the company under tight contract.

    Trump sells of his garden to developers, and then tells people he's redeveloping the garden in *partnership* with developers. Nope, he's not in partnership with developers, he's parcelling the land that was his garden, and selling that off for people to build houses on because he needs the money. When this *partnership* is over and the houses get sold cheap, or maybe never built, does that mean Trump's partnership failed? Or that it simply was never a partnership.

  17. Not to mention those... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...sub sandwiches. Don't they look phallic to you? I have a feeling Subway is secretly a pedo factory. They are trying to entice with sexually suggestive breads.

  18. Not all 5 minute careers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trent Reznor has been working at apple for years, I believe he still is.

  19. Re:Hinduism is of the Devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not saying that all religious people are idiots but I am saying that all religious people are idiots.
    FTFY.

  20. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quite a few of them so. Lady Gaga, though, interestingly, is a curious exception. Supposedly - from accounts of quite a few people - she's intelligent, educated, with sharp wit and good critical sense, a very no-nonsense person. The 'crazy diva' is all an act, something that is expected from a top pop star, required to stay in the spotlight, in focus of the 'brand' press, keep idiot fans interested and rake mountains of money.

    I'd find it extremely amusing if they hired her as a publicity stunt for show off, and then she proceeded to stay out of spotlight and be a very competent manager instead.

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  21. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Will.i.am also seems to be a fairly self-made man. He's got his fingers in everything. I thought the Intel thing was a bit hilarious, though. I mean, srsly.

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  22. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like whole sale ripping off other people's music.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcyXbLPj-Bk
    http://www.youredm.com/2013/04/23/will-i-am-admits-to-stealing-from-arty-and-mat-zo-for-next-album/

  23. Half time fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you missed black eyed peas at their Superbowl halftime show. They did it to reach millions of new possible fans. It was probably the worst halftime show the SB ever had and instead of getting new fans, they probably lost a bunch of existing ones instead.

    I will admit, Fergie proved me wrong at that show. I thought Axle Rose was the worst singer of all time, but when she did the Guns and Roses part, she butchered it far worse than Axle could have. The ONLY good part of their show was the 20 seconds of Slash. They would have been better off with him just playing guitar for the entire time.

    I don't remember hearing anything from the Black Eyed Peas since.

  24. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by ausekilis · · Score: 1

    Jessica Alba also runs her own business(es), which, as far as I care to research, is the biggest portion of her income these days. Many celebs are just a face from a screen with loads of money that they throw around. Others have actually made something of themselves and are quite successful in other ways.

    Hell, Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) has an advanced degree in Physics, as does Dolph Lundgren. Don't judge a book by its cover.

  25. jay-z by Idisagree · · Score: 1

    and tidal wave

    HAHA!

  26. Wrong stars man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WhoTF is Lady Gaga, Alicia Keys, and Will.i.am ???

    You want me to buy a laptop? Give me the Torvalds signature edition, the Dennis Ritchie, or the Richard Stallman!!

    Imagine how much fun you could have designing a 'De Raddt', the 'Woz', the 'Gates', the 'Taco'...

    1. Re:Wrong stars man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want me to buy a laptop? Give me the Torvalds signature edition, the Dennis Ritchie, or the Richard Stallman!!

      Your signature edition line of laptops will never sell except in trivial quantities, because you're marketing exclusively to free thinking anarchists who believe free money should be free as in beer. People who have money, and who are willing to spend, have never heard of your free software heroes.

  27. Suprise surprise... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    I hope this served as a lesson to the industry at the very least... and for people who are constantly looking for all sorts of advices to follow from their favorite celebrities.

    Wanna borrow a celebrity name to sell stuff, ok, no problem.
    But pop stars and celebrities will always be worried more about selling their own name and face.
    Even if there was some hidden genious out there, their priority will always be their own brand.

    But the uglier fact is that most of them are not even responsible for most of their fame, so what companies are essencially doing is hiring the most unqualified people to run an important part of their businesses... how did big companies like those get into a situation like that is why "innovation is stifled" and such.

    All in all, you'd get better results by hiring strangers that have even a tiny bit of interest in the product line itself.

  28. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by thomst · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SharpFang noted:

    Lady Gaga, though, interestingly, is a curious exception. Supposedly - from accounts of quite a few people - she's intelligent, educated, with sharp wit and good critical sense, a very no-nonsense person. The 'crazy diva' is all an act, something that is expected from a top pop star, required to stay in the spotlight, in focus of the 'brand' press, keep idiot fans interested and rake mountains of money.

    I'd find it extremely amusing if they hired her as a publicity stunt for show off, and then she proceeded to stay out of spotlight and be a very competent manager instead.

    Mod parent up.

    Stepanie "Lady Gaga" Germanotta is pretty much entirely a self-made artist. She's been single-mindedly aiming at pop stardom since she was a pre-teen, with voice lessons, dancing lessons, and the piano lessons that made her an in-demand session player in the New York recording scene well before she achieved fame on her own. I'm not much of a fan of dance music, but I watched the documentary about her Little Monsters tour, and I was very impressed by how completely she's in charge of every artistic aspect of her performances, from lighting to choreography, to sound. At the end of the movie, there's a candid scene of her practicing acapella with her backup singers, and it's VERY clear from that that Gaga has a powerful set of pipes and an excellent ear. And, unlike pretty much every other dance-pop diva, she does NOT lip-synch her live vocals. Given how energetic her dancing is throughout her performances, that's pretty damned impressive. (I've been a performing musician for decades, and I know from experience how quickly you run out of breath if you jump around the stage a lot.)

    And yes, I know that her recording career was only launched when rapper Akon made her his protege - but before he took her under his wing, she was already a contract songwriter with Sony, and a well-known presence on the NYC avant-garde art scene, as well as working as a professional pianist.

    And, hey, her halftime show at the Stupid Bowl kicked ass ...

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  29. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dolph has a Masters of Chemical Engineering from the University of Sydney.

    He also got some sort of scholarship to MIT.

    Then he decided to be a movie star, make millions and bang legions of hot chicks.

    Go Dolph, for teh win !!!!

  30. Re:Actually hiring people ifrom showbiz could work by WallyL · · Score: 2

    Just imagine Clint Eastwood as system manager.

    Just did.

  31. In other news by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    Doing meaningful stuff is actually really hard. A streak of luck isn't the same as understanding business, marketing and product development.

    (Sure, positive vibes and enthusiasm are all good. But at the end of the day you need deliverables.)

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  32. Yeah by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    Fuck these people, and fuck the moron children of rich men who hire them

  33. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    hes a fuckin scam artist. a hustler.

  34. Of course it's a flawed strategy. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

    Just think about this:

    ...this article argues most of these tech companies "faced structural business issues too significant to be addressed through celebrity branding and artistic energy."

    Do you know what doesn't address structural business issues? At all? Hiring a celebrity.

    That's a roughly parallel statement to "the patient became more sick because they faced medical issues too significant to be addressed through Cheetos."

  35. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And a millionaire tech father helps.

  36. Re:Actually hiring people ifrom showbiz could work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The product will be shipped late? Do you feel lucky punks?!!

  37. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rowan has a MSc in Electrical Engineering.

  38. You're not wrong, and yes they do. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't matter if it is Sting, or Metallica, or the Eagles, or , they are all being replayed every couple of hours. I remember back in the 80s/90s when they actually rotated songs enough that you WAITED for that cool song you wanted to come back around, maybe all week. Nowadays you could probably time your watch by it (or at least when your shift would be ending!)

    As far as the songs glorifying all the stuff you mentioned: Just look at sort-of 'white folk' rolemodels: The Kardashians, The Trumps, The Jersey Shore, The Bachelor, etc. Hell even most of the previously 'family friendly' role models have proven far less family friendly than their carefully manicured public personas presented: Disney, Cosby, the subway guy, etc. Its amoral filth and doing whatever it takes to get your own all the way down.

    This is why I nod in understanding at all the people I know (friends and not) who talk about depression, or suicide, or horribly fucked up childhoods. I have stories of my own, but nothing that compares with the horrors going on daily around the world, both mundane and 'hollywood'.

  39. Re:Actually hiring people ifrom showbiz could work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Talking to an empty server rack?

  40. Chuck Norris... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can write software simply by staring at the computer until it obeys.

  41. Re:Are these "stars" controlling their own celebri by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    Jessica Alba also runs her own business(es), which, as far as I care to research, is the biggest portion of her income these days.

    Jessica Alba has been wildly successful in her business ventures. Perhaps Microsoft should have made her more than a creative director.

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  42. WHO ^3 by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    Or in Trumpet English, "Who?, Who the fuck?, and Who Dat?"

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