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Scientists Have Invented Paper That You Can Print With Light, Erase With Heat, and Reuse 80 Times (qz.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Quartz: Nearly 1% of carbon emissions annually can be attributed to paper production, even though we recycle much of the paper we produce. Yadong Yin has a solution. He and his colleagues at the University of California at Riverside have invented a type of paper that can be printed on using just light, erased by heating, and reused up to 80 times. Yin created nanoparticles, which are a million times smaller than the thickness of human hair, with the dye Prussian blue, or its chemical analogues, and titanium oxide, which is commonly used in white wall paint. This mixture is then applied to normal paper. When the coating is exposed to ultraviolet light, electrons from titanium oxide move to the dye in the nanoparticle. This addition of electrons makes the blue dye turn white. Focusing the ultraviolet light into shapes, you can print white words on a blue background -- or blue words on a white background, which are easier to read. If left alone, the paper reverts to its original state in five days. That process can be accelerated by heating the paper to 120 C (250 F) for 10 minutes.

159 comments

  1. where.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is my document gone??????

    1. Re: where.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations, they reinvented disappearing ink.

    2. Re:where.. by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      *Where has

    3. Re: where.. by tysonedwards · · Score: 1

      Except, this time... they already coated the paper in it! Convenience! Oh, the convenience!

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    4. Re:where.. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      *Where has

      W at h ppens f th pape doe n't eras un formly?

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    5. Re:where.. by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

      just imagine how much money the FBI will save on ink not having to black out 80% of your FOIA.

  2. New printer by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now all we need is a new printer that doesn't jam when the paper is not perfectly smooth.

    1. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now all we need is a new printer that doesn't jam when the paper is not perfectly smooth.

      Well, no. Not quite.

      All we truly need to fix the problem of printer jams is a society that doesn't believe in going backwards with technology in order to feed some perverse addiction of putting ones and zeros on paper.

      While I applaud the new research for helping with carbon emissions, it's pretty sad when we've been talking about "paperless" for 20 fucking years and have still failed to actually do it in damn near every aspect.

      And yes, it's pretty easy to do. When gas rose to over $4/gallon, people started looking for alternate means of transportation. When you make something expensive enough, innovation happens. Or in the case of going paperless, common sense.

    2. Re:New printer by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Going paperless is extremely expensive. Paper would have to cost more than gold for the same weight.

    3. Re:New printer by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Paper has some useful properties that help it remain popular. If we can replicate or better these properties with technology, we can finally go paperless.

      Cheap, disposable: Compared to a tablet computer, paper is very cheap and damage is rarely a big deal.

      Just works: No battery to charge, folds up if required, can be marked with any pen or pencil and there is no UI to learn or fumble with.

      Permanent: People trust printed documents not to change and signatures/stamps count for something.

      Archival: Paper lasts a long time, and people know how to protect it. Digital files get lost, formats go obsolete and unreadable, same for the storage media. Backup still seems to be hard compared to "file in fire-proof safe".

      Size: Even just A4/letter size tablets are expensive, let alone A3. Larger sizes can't be folded either.

      Compatibility: Different tablets have different ways of distributing and accessing documents.

      There are a few areas where paperless wins. Machine translation is getting very good. But it's still a struggle. Where I work we are replacing paper drawings with Raspberry Pi and monitors, basically glorified PDF readers. It only works because our CAD documents are exported to PDF for easy viewing and stored on a file server somewhere, but it's far from a turnkey, universal solution.

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    4. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Only your durability / hardcopy / archive argument really hold water and that's exactly what this ‘invention’ is useless at.
      * Paper is expensive. You don't realise that because you aren't paying the price in the store. But it takes up space, ordering time and other overhead and it turns out to be much more expensive than any digital-based solution (be it e-reader, computer, ...).
      * My e-reader also ‘just works’ (battery lasts forever, can write on pages) and people can no longer live without their phones anyway so for all intents and purposes they just work too.
      * Big paper sizes were never there for usability; people hate it. Columns are a coping mechanism, but they only go so far. Big paper sizes are used because they're slightly cheaper, but even now I notice some newspapers are switching to half size because their readership prefers it. The ones that don't simply cannot afford it.
      As I see it, for most purposes there's a more-or-less two-way split happening between use cases that were formerly covered by paper:
      * Temporary reading / graphing / ... material.
      * Archival storage.
      The ‘invention’ discussed here is useless for both. It's useless.

    5. Re:New printer by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

      This was my first thought.
      I've seen it, in a non-profit environment : using some decade old HP laser printer, with seemingly perfect reliability (compared to your typical inkjet that you need to re-buy every year if you use it seasonally), enough life left in the toner to not care about it.

      Yet, the obvious "good idea" there was to print on old worthless already printed paper, just print to the other side. It's not so much the paper jams that are a problem, but all the dust, dirt and ash particles found on the old papers (those that have started lying around are even worse than those filed away for years). This gets into the printing rollers or whatever you call them and so your printer develops printing streaks, making stuff hard to read (at worse missing important things) or too unprofessional.
      And then, you're stuck needing maintenance on a laser printer even though everything was okay (parallel cable, CUPS and networking, toner, printer, paper supply). Time was bought by putting a different old printer in place.

      What would be needed on a regular laser printer is a warning : "Please only feed NEW printer to the paper. It's more environmentally friendly"

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      With that "UV paper", hopefully the printer is simplified enough and made trivially easy to clean with no special equipment. The "paper" itself needs to be easy to clean. If you don't even need contact between the "paper" and printer parts (save for feeding the "paper" in and getting it out) it might be easy enough to use even folded "UV paper" (e.g., some machines have a slot where you can put banknotes in, they work with banknotes that were folded carelessly)

    6. Re:New printer by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Does that mean I shouldn't be printing raw binary dumps of my PDFs?

    7. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean I shouldn't be printing raw binary dumps of my PDFs?

      Yes

    8. Re:New printer by Bengie · · Score: 1

      As useful as paper can be, there are many situations where someone will print off 100+ pages just to throw them all in the bin a few hours later. The real question is how often does this happen will answer what the max savings of that maximum 1%.

    9. Re:New printer by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Or user-replaceable rollers on inkjets, since the real problem is hardening of the rubber.

    10. Re:New printer by sheramil · · Score: 1

      No battery to charge, folds up if required, can be marked with any pen or pencil and there is no UI to learn or fumble with.

      I had to learn the UI. What, were you born knowing how to read and write?

    11. Re:New printer by sheramil · · Score: 1

      I can still print out animated .GIFs, right?

    12. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, dumbass... how DO you get to paperless? Need a fucking computer to do everything? Everything? You do realize that's not really feasible. Moron...

    13. Re:New printer by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      My hplj2300 (best b&w printer evar) has problems picking up paper when it's not fresh. After it's been cooked, it seems to provide less traction.

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    14. Re:New printer by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      How literally do you mean "paperless"? Matte mylar may be as low as 6 cents for a letter-size sheet for thin stuff of questionable quality; sturdy stuff for engineering drawing about 50 cents.

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    15. Re:New printer by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Have you ever needed to compare a moderate number of documents, say 8 documents of 5 pages each? Spread them out on your desk, shuffle them, move them around, make notes and editing marks on them. How are you going to do that with e-readers? Now tape a few of them together to form a 17 by 22 inch document with all the details visible at once.

      I hope you have a solvent for the duck tape residue from taping together the e-readers, a solvent that doesn't attack e-reader case plastic.

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    16. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can still print out animated .GIFs, right?

      Yes. But I should warn you that the animation gets really slow.

    17. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sure can, it's called a flip book.... haha

    18. Re:New printer by Khyber · · Score: 1

      " My e-reader also ‘just works’"

      Until you break your screen.

      You got any non-paper archives that have lasted several thousand years, or even a couple hundred?

      That's what I thought.

      You can't hack paper, either. Thus it's a far more secure medium for information storage.

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    19. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      20 years? My, you are young. Paperless has been a buzzword since the 50's.

      And you might want to use a bit of perspective. Compare paper usage to data storage, and you'll see that there's a lot less paper being used per character stored than ever. By several orders of magnitude.

    20. Re:New printer by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Paper has some useful properties that help it remain popular. If we can replicate or better these properties with technology, we can finally go paperless.

      Something like this was already invented about a decade ago and posted on slashdot. I'll repeat the info from what I thought was the most insightful post from that discussion:

      We shouldn't be trying to replace paper. We shouldn't even be recycling it. We should be using as much of it as we can and throwing it all away in the trash.

      • Why do we have a problem with global warming? Because we're digging up carbon that's been buried in the earth, and releasing it into the atmosphere as CO2.
      • Where does paper come from? Trees pull CO2 out of the atmosphere, and use photosynthesis (and water) to convert the carbon into wood. We cut down the tree, and convert that wood into paper.
      • What happens when we throw away paper? It gets sent to a landfill - it is buried underground. Drilled core samples from landfills have shown that newspapers over a century old are still intact and pristine inside the landfill. So this is an effective means of burying that carbon underground again. Microbes aren't consuming it and turning it into natural gas or something.

      So digging up and burning coal, oil, and gas removes carbon from the ground and puts it into the atmosphere as CO2. Throwing away paper in landfills removes CO2 from the atmosphere and sequesters that carbon underground. This is one of the tools in our fight against global warming, It's been proven to work, and unlike other sequestration tools which are all in the research stages this one is already widely in use. But because people just mindlessly jump onto the recycling bandwagon without actually thinking about if it's really a good idea, we're trying to shut down the most successful form of carbon sequestration we've invented.

      Use as much paper as you can. Throw it all away when you're done. The cost of the paper itself becomes a tax that funds the fight against global warming (pays for more trees to be planted to meet the demand for more paper). If you're recycling paper, you're making global warming worse.

    21. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New business idea: The paper iron! (paper ironing board not included)

    22. Re:New printer by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Well this "new paper" won't last several thousand years either. The ink disappears within 5 days- or quicker if you heat it. The very act of holding the paper, or even breathing on it will erase the ink.

      In other news, I'm getting a check book made out of this paper...

      " I don't see a signature".

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    23. Re:New printer by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Not sure what your comment has to do with the article, other than that it points out that this new paper has few or none of the properties that make paper desirable.

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    24. Re:New printer by strikethree · · Score: 1

      My google-fu is a bit weak right now for some reason, but a general once said that a computer with a bullet hole in it is useless but a paper map with a bullet hole in it is still useful.

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    25. Re:New printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many pieces of paper equivalent is involving in making a new printer able to print on this?
      Will said printer also do regular paper? UV light printing sounds like a NO, so I will need TWO printers where I have one. Standby mode uses the equivalent of HOW many pieces of paper? Won't printing/erasing at 250 C create more excess heat in the office? Blue on White would require 'printing' everything BUT the letters you wanted to print so we need a new printing mode that sounds rather slow to say the least with 95% coverage required instead of 5%.

      Titanium oxide nanoparticles doesn't sound cheap.
      Of course I have no clue what to do with temporary blue paper anyway.

    26. Re:New printer by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      And in many cases the 100+ pages thrown in the bin weren't intended to be, there was just something wrong about it. The original intent was a permanent copy. So it's hard to predict ahead of time when "reusable paper" would be beneficial over normal paper.

    27. Re:New printer by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      and a sheet of printer paper costs 1.3 cents, and thats for a single ream, you buy in cases, it goes down to half a cent per sheet, and it probably dips lower if you buy by the pallet, which I'm sure many large companies do.

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    28. Re:New printer by Altrag · · Score: 1

      This is so absurdly wrong its almost funny. That carbon you're talking about is already "sequestered" in the trees you're cutting down -- its not in the atmosphere!

      And the tree you just cut down is now no longer pulling any more carbon out of the atmosphere.

      Never mind things like the equipment needed to cut down, transport, mash and reconsistute the wood into paper all requires fuel, the majority of which is going to be carbon-based, so there's a big subtraction from your equation (that may even go negative I don't have numbers.)

      You also assume that the paper we use comes from replanted trees. Which is certainly getting more common but I wouldn't want to bank on it being universally true to any extent.

      Its like saying you should evaporate your town's water supply in order to increase the rainfall for the year. Yes, it may well do that but chances are it won't be anywhere close to sufficient to replenish the waste, and what you're left with is in a far less convenient form to boot. Much better to just manage the resource properly in the first place.

  3. Better recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And that's why we can't have nice things.

    Technically this is great and smart (and I am a tech geek, otherwise I wouldn't be hanging around here).

    What miffs me no end is the contraposition to a simple solution of the mentioned problem (CO_2 emmissions related to paper use): less waste & more recycling... by simply shifting economic incentives. Lest the liberal-radicals cry "Oh, no! Don't touch the Holy Free Market!". Thanks to those idiots we'll have to put up with being flooded with TiO_2 nanoparticles before really having understood what they do with us.

    1. Re:Better recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furthermore, there's no mention of how much energy it takes to wipe and write each time. Trees are great. They grow quick, help reduce the shit we pump into the air, and can be used in a variety of ways. By reducing managed tree crops, how much of that do we lose too? And you also have to factor in recycling differs depending on region. Europe have been on top of this for a long time, the journeys are small, the associated pollution isn't as large as a land mass the size of USA or Australia doing the exact same thing.

    2. Re:Better recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, which is it. Do liberals cry "DONT TOUCH THE HOLY FREE MARKET" or do they cry "SOCIALISM! COMMUNISM! REGULATION!"

      I'm confused.

    3. Re:Better recycling? by davidwr · · Score: 1

      Ok, which is it. Do liberals cry "DONT TOUCH THE HOLY FREE MARKET" or do they cry "SOCIALISM! COMMUNISM! REGULATION!"

      I'm confused.

      The "parent post" was referring to "liberal-radicals" whatever they are.

      Perhaps this will help:

      Person 1: What's the difference between an extreme left-winger and an extreme right-winger?
      Person 2: I don't know.
      Person 1: I don't know either, I don't think there is one, but for some reason they keep fighting each other.

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    4. Re:Better recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why do people on the right have to inject politics into every goddamn thing? There is absolutely nothing political about this, how the hell do you manage to align this with "liberal-radicals" unless you equate all science with liberals? If anything, left leaning people would be against this people for the reason you mentioned, "being flooded with TiO_2 nanoparticles before really having understood what they do with us." It'd be potentially toxic, at least more toxic than current widely used paper, and worse for the environment (80 uses isn't that much and it likely wouldn't be recyclable).

    5. Re:Better recycling? by suutar · · Score: 1

      Maybe they meant libertarian-radicals? While liberals seem to favor a free market (in that they want all the consumers to have equal opportunities in the market) they don't usually seem to get in an uproar about it, whereas the stereotype for libertarians is that they do.

    6. Re:Better recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people on the right have to inject politics into every goddamn thing? There is absolutely nothing political about this, how the hell do you manage to align this with "liberal-radicals" unless you equate all science with liberals? If anything, left leaning people would be against this people for the reason you mentioned, "being flooded with TiO_2 nanoparticles before really having understood what they do with us." It'd be potentially toxic, at least more toxic than current widely used paper, and worse for the environment (80 uses isn't that much and it likely wouldn't be recyclable).

      Not just right. Right, left, everyone keeps injecting fucking politics into every fucking article, on every fucking website.

  4. Perfect for the Trump administration. by Required+Snark · · Score: 3, Funny

    They can use this for all internal and external communications and never have to admit that they lied or changed their position.

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    1. Re:Perfect for the Trump administration. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't admit to lying or changing position as it is.... even when confronted with video of the previous position / lie.

    2. Re:Perfect for the Trump administration. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can use this for all internal and external communications and never have to admit that they lied or changed their position.

      I simply do not get this. Changing one's position based on new facts or a new perspective is a sign of higher order thinking. Lying about it is not a good thing, but I haven't seen that Trump is worse in this regard than any other president of my lifetime.

  5. I have blue color blindness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you, insensitive clod!

    1. Re:I have blue color blindness by davidwr · · Score: 1

      you, insensitive clod!

      Well, make sure the shade of blue and the shade of white aren't the same shade and you should be able to tell them apart by light/dark value.

      If someone markets paper that doesn't have sufficiently different contrast, then complain.

      Either that, or embrace it as a feature: "Sorry boss, you say I didn't follow the instructions but the memo you sent looked blank to me."

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  6. Sneaky contract changes by Rande · · Score: 2

    See? This is your employment contract with your signature at the bottom, and it says right here in clause 13a that we're allowed to ride you like a donkey every 2nd Tuesday.

    1. Re:Sneaky contract changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So quit. If you're hot shit with fuckin-a marketable skills you can get another job the same day. Crushing it, coder bro!!!!

  7. ingenious but temporary? by ed.han · · Score: 1

    I think this is great for scratch pads but unless there's also a way to make the print last longer the applications would be limited. "If left alone, the paper reverts to its original state in five days. That process can be accelerated by heating the paper to 120 C (250 F) for 10 minutes." Slowest Etch-a-Sketch ever?

    1. Re:ingenious but temporary? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      "If left alone, the paper reverts to its original state in five days"

      This is the thing that would keep me from buying it...oftentimes I don't know if I'll need to keep something I print out for a day or a week or a month.

      I'd hate to print something off only to find out that it had self-erased a week later.

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    2. Re:ingenious but temporary? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Some people (*cough* Wall Street types *cough*) just want to make sure that whatever they printed out, e-mailed etc gets destroyed after a few days/weeks/months. They often don't use e-mail because they lose control and rely on word of mouth and paper within the office to get their 'ideas' finalized. The main issue is when the shit hits the fans months or years down the line, they don't want anyone holding onto anything they've said or written.

      With this paper, any evidence disappears automatically and you'd have to first of all have the foresight to know you'll at some point need and expend quite some effort to make a copy (eg. use a copier, scanner, camera).

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  8. Sounds useless by gweihir · · Score: 1

    The one thing I print things for is to be able to annotate by hand. That will not work with this paper, obviously, or require special markers. I also need these notes typically significantly longer than 5 days.

    The only way to deal with this is to recycle paper. Where I live it is solved very simply: Normal trash you pay for by volume actually produced (you need to use special bags). Paper, cardboard, metal and glass you can either throw in the normal trash and pay for it or collect it separately and dispose of it for free.

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    1. Re:Sounds useless by hagnat · · Score: 1

      being useless to you doesn't mean its useless for others.

      Imagine this being used in convention centers, where one could print the daily schedule on a sheet of paper that was reused from a previous convention.
      This used in mass to handle today's sermon and lyrics to the churchgoers, and then have the flyer be reused on the next day for a different sermon.
      This used internally in companies to share confidential information among employees.
      This used in hospitals, to print the information of a short-term patient.

      There are plenty of uses. You are just thinking about your needs.

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    2. Re:Sounds useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could print on the other side of the sheet of paper, which most people don't do.
      Or print out a sheet with blank spaces and fill them in with a pencil, then erase. At least it wouldn't fade on its own if you happened to need it after 5 days.

      It's useless for nearly every kind of document, most of them need to be stored for administrative purposes or because the law says so (hospitals need to keep medical records for a period of time etc.).

      There's nothing to be gained from this, paper still needs to be produced. Special printers will need to be made. A mixture of chemicals needs to be made and applied to the paper. Ends up being more expensive than normal anyway and the result is pretty much the same in the long run, except now you have tons of waste coated in titanium oxide mixture that might be more difficult to recycle.

    3. Re: Sounds useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or even better, try to reuse a stack of this paper and severely jam the printer, cutting WAY down on paper consumption.

    4. Re:Sounds useless by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It can be reused/reprinted 80 times. It doesn't say it will stay wrinkle/crease free for 80 reuses. And when it does get thrown out, it's full of ferric ferrocyanide, which is fairly toxic.

      Any amount of wear on the paper and nobody will want it second-hand. Or, nobody will buy their own paper because it's too expensive. They just won't return the paper back to the convention staff, etc.

    5. Re:Sounds useless by omnichad · · Score: 1

      That will not work with this paper, obviously, or require special markers

      It would require a UV light pen.

      If you need it longer than 5 days, scanning or photo might be an option.

      However, this would probably be the only use case where the paper could likely be re-used more than once or twice.

    6. Re:Sounds useless by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      If it reverts in 5 days, it's probably badly faded in one day. Better scan it soon, and print it out on (gasp!) paper.

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    7. Re:Sounds useless by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "And when it does get thrown out, it's full of ferric ferrocyanide, which is fairly toxic."

      Ferric Ferrocyanide is bound to iron and won't bind to your blood cells due to that. It's safe and that is why it was included in pretty much every children's chemistry set to this very day. It's also an FDA-approved food additive/colorant. The only real use restriction it has is that it is not intended for cosmetics which get applied to the lips.

      Sources: Environment Canada, NLM, FDA, European Commission.

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    8. Re:Sounds useless by omnichad · · Score: 1

      GP only printed it so they could do handwritten notes. Presumably they would be happy with a digital copy.

    9. Re:Sounds useless by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Weird that the MSDS for prussian blue is still pretty scary.

      Alright - we'll stick with the titanium dioxide, then, which despite getting sprayed all over people's bodies in summer is still a known carcinogen. Oddly enough, it rates lower on the MSDS health risk scale than prussian blue.

    10. Re:Sounds useless by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      Well, the MSDS for "Sea sand, washed" is pretty scary, too. Prussian Blue is amazingly non-toxic for something with "cyanide" in the name, and is used as a chelating agent to treat heavy metal poisoning.

    11. Re:Sounds useless by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I had no idea that breathing in sand dust could be carcinogenic. That is legitimately scary.

      To be fair, most things you can ingest are better for you than heavy metal poisoning. Wasn't worried about the cyanide in the name, per se, but that non-food/medical grade prussian blue may have some dangerous contaminants created during its production.

  9. But can we... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Wipe our asses with it?

    1. Re: But can we... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but after 5 days your ass disappears.

    2. Re:But can we... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Or use it for kindling. What kind of toxins go into the air then?

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  10. blue words on a white background by TTL0 · · Score: 1

    So he invented Dito paper without the smell ? what's the use ?

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  11. Useful by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That process can be accelerated by heating the paper to 120 C (250 F) for 10 minutes.

    Or, just forget your documents in the car in summer one day and have them all erased.

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    1. Re:Useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rare event, simple workaround - print the documents again. This isn't intended for situations in which you want to create permanent records (in which case you wouldn't be using ordinary paper either, but acid-free paper). Anything printed on this paper was ephemeral to begin with.

      The biggest problem I see is that you can't make notes. An ordinary pen would leave unerasable ink, and a UV pen would write in white.

    2. Re:Useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They cite 'emissions reduction' as a reason to use this. They say it can be re-used up to 80 times, but it might take 80 times the energy to produce it and extra energy to use it. Then it might not be recyclable.

      Does not sound like an environmental improvement to me.

    3. Re:Useful by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If the inside of your car hits 120C you have other problems, like the dashboard starting to melt. For example, ABS melts at 105C.

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    4. Re: Useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good idea. I'll lock them in with the dog. And the baby. And dead granma.

    5. Re:Useful by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Many chemical reactions double in rate for every 10 Celsius degrees. (120 hours / 0.16 hours) = 750. 2^((120 degrees - 23 degrees)/10) = 831. That's pretty close agreement for a publicity blurb. "A summer day in your car" (10 hours) corresponds to 59 degrees Celsius, if I did my calculation right. That's 138 degrees Fahrenheit. Easily achieved.

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    6. Re:Useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it reverts back to normal after 5 days at ~20 C, and 10 minutes at 120 C, then a day in a hot car would probably do the job.

    7. Re:Useful by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the plot to a new book, "Fahrenheit 251".

    8. Re:Useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Needs one of these

  12. Paper voting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally paper voting comes to same level as electronic.

    1. Re:Paper voting by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      Chicago is paying attention to this.

  13. More resource intensive than regular paper by swb · · Score: 1

    It uses regular paper as its base and then is coated with their nanoparticle brew, and it's supposed to be a resource saver?

    Maybe in a closed loop environment where there is a ton of printing for short-term purposes where the week-long lifetime doesn't matter AND you can re-use the paper close to the maximum number. But what do you bet in real life it would get printed on once and then the paper rendered impossible to print on due to wrinkling, tears, etc.

    Although at so many offices there's a printer and then there's the inbox-type container with ream-and-a-half stack of printouts that nobody collects from the printer and that just sit there until the inbox overflows and somebody dumps the entire stack into the recycling bin.

    Perhaps if the printer could do an erase stage at the start of a print job you could have a printer that automatically recycles the output bin after 30 minutes back to the tray so it could be erased again.

    1. Re:More resource intensive than regular paper by davidwr · · Score: 1

      Maybe in a closed loop environment where there is a ton of printing for short-term purposes where the week-long lifetime doesn't matter AND you can re-use the paper close to the maximum number

      Yes, this. Someone mentioned convention centers and church bulletins as possible applications.

      However, even these are limited as many of these documents are typically multiple-color at least on part of the page and/or they are being replaced with apps, screens all over the place, or other paper-less versions.

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    2. Re:More resource intensive than regular paper by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Although at so many offices there's a printer and then there's the inbox-type container with ream-and-a-half stack of printouts that nobody collects from the printer and that just sit there until the inbox overflows and somebody dumps the entire stack into the recycling bin.

      Perhaps if the printer could do an erase stage at the start of a print job you could have a printer that automatically recycles the output bin after 30 minutes back to the tray so it could be erased again.

      My workplace has been installing Multi-function copiers where print jobs have to be locked, and the user has to go to the printer, select their job(s) in the queue, and enter their password (usually 0000, 1234, or their phone extension) before it will print. Jobs automatically delete after 2-3 days. It drastically reduces the number of abandoned printouts.

      Unfortunately these $10,000+ printers seem to be real pieces of shit, jamming constantly in very complicated manners, and requiring repairs all the time (both Ricoh and Xerox), even when new, while decades old Laserjet 5's keep printing and printing, needing nothing more than new toner cartridges, and the odd simple jam every couple thousand pages.

    3. Re:More resource intensive than regular paper by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Yes, this. Someone mentioned convention centers and church bulletins as possible applications.

      However, even these are limited as many of these documents are typically multiple-color at least on part of the page and/or they are being replaced with apps, screens all over the place, or other paper-less versions.

      What percentage would be successfully collected, and would they be in good enough shape to be reused?

    4. Re:More resource intensive than regular paper by swb · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately these $10,000+ printers seem to be real pieces of shit,

      Oh, they're awful. Shitty software, terrible interfaces and half the time at customer locations the important bits that show you networking configuration are needlessly locked out by the vendor.

      And quite often finding the right driver (and knowing what the right setting is) requires the knowledge of 1-2 people at the "copier" company, which is staffed mostly by sales and mechanical technicians.

      When I last went through this exercise as a full time admin, I got a full court press from the office manager (who managed the "copier" contract) and I was able to demonstrate that the "MFP" was a bad idea -- they wanted to charge a $0.05 per page, and I was able to monitor page counts on our LaserJet fleet and model actual operating costs based on average coverage figures -- we were below $0.01 per page on the then-big 5 Si printers, including toner and maintenance contracts.

      Based on pages printed, we could have bought new LaserJets every year and discarded the old ones and STILL saved money versus paying a nickel per impression.

      I dragged out my spreedsheets and graphs for the meeting with the office manager and the copier rep. The copier representative was pretty embarrassed when I walked through my figures and the cost comparisons.

    5. Re:More resource intensive than regular paper by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Oh, they're awful. Shitty software, terrible interfaces and half the time at customer locations the important bits that show you networking configuration are needlessly locked out by the vendor.

      And narcoleptic. They fall asleep after 10 seconds idle, and you have to press the stupid leaf button to wake it up, which takes 45 seconds to reinitialize, and the scanner buffer was limited to about 2 pages. I was able to corner the service tech once to get those limitations lifted (it sleeps now after 60 minutes, and can scan dozens of pages).

      Occasionally the MFP would lock up. You send a job, select it, enter your code, and it would go "processing" indefinitely. Once I said "fucking piece of shit", pulled the plug out, and put it back in. Boss said "No need to be so violent, try properly shutting down the printer next time".

      Aside from taking 5 minutes for a fucking printer to "shut down", he admitted that the next time this issue occurred, properly shutting it down didn't work, and pulling the plug did.

  14. The trees paper is made out of are farmed by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    So you reduce the demand for new paper you cut down on the trees planted.

    1. Re:The trees paper is made out of are farmed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you cut down fewer trees - leaving the others growing longer (assuming your point is about the trees absorbing CO2).

  15. Scientists have turned paper into hazardous waste by Foske · · Score: 1

    Can they also prove particles are harmless for the environment ? Where does the heat come from ? And how much energy does it take to apply the stuff ? What's the chance of mixing it up with normal paper and throwing it away too soon ?

  16. Mission Impossible paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "This document will self-destruct in five days."

  17. More Trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using more paper means growing more trees. On land that migh otherwise sit idle or be used for worse purposes. Trees capture and convert carbon dioxide.

    Is that even considered in the process of determining that paper causes 1% of the 'bad'?

    1. Re:More Trees by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Or how about all of these additives being applied to the paper? Is the paper less disposable now that it is 100% coated in stuff (instead of, say, 5-10% of ink)? What are the manufacturing costs? How are these costs compared to the 80x reusable?

      Oh, and who really wants paper that erases itself? I still have some notes from college 10+ years ago that, while hastily/sloppily written, are still readable and sometimes useful.

  18. Congratulations! You re-invented Blueprints by kinohead · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint

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  19. New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by sabbede · · Score: 1
    mimeograph? Wow, the future is a blast from the past. As in grade school.

    And now y'all have an idea of how old I am.

    1. Re: New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha granpa go shit in diapers haha

    2. Re:New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Grade school? Urk, the university I went to was still using those.
      A girl in my class got some purple from it on her new white blouse from the thing and one of the chemistry lecturers helpfully poured some acetone on it to clean up - he seemed sure he could pour on just a drop instead of spilling a lot on her, but he spilled it. Not just a white blouse a white NYLON blouse. In seconds she was half naked and sticky from dissolved nylon (like wearing cobwebs by that point) in front of an almost all male class of around fifty students. The office staff didn't have a polite word to say to that chemist for a couple of years.

    3. Re:New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But does it have the same smell?

    4. Re:New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      mimeograph technology works by forcing a replenishable supply of ink through the stencil master. (wikipedia)

      No relation.

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    5. Re:New, super-high-tech paper, looks like by sabbede · · Score: 1

      They gave him a hard time for demonstrating the effects of acetone on synthetic fibers? Well, joke's on them, because his students will never forget his lesson that day.

  20. This was already done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Again? I think PARC invented this about 10 years ago..

  21. ... the Russians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Americans spent millions of dollars inventing paper that you can print with light, erase with heat, and reuse 80 times. ...
    The Russians just used a pencil and an eraser.

    Future apocryphal story. As true as the one it's based on.

  22. Re: Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill both sides, leaves the normal people in peace.

  23. Re:Scientists have turned paper into hazardous was by arboviral · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's likely to be pretty safe. The process uses Prussian blue (iron hexacyanoferrate) and titanium oxide (presumably titanium (IV) oxide, given the reference to white paint). Prussian blue is non-toxic and highly stable, despite containing cyanide groups (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_blue#Adverse_effects) and is actually used as a treatment for heavy metal poisoning. Titanium (IV) oxide is so safe it's often used as a food additive, as well as already being a component of many papers - it helps make them more white and opaque. Safety issues have been raised over some sizes of titanium oxide nanoparticle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide#Health_and_safety) but despite this they're still widely used in products like sunscreen.

  24. Mission Impossible paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At last!

    "This message will self-destruct in 10 seconds"... (well, OK, 5 days)

  25. This will be more expensive by ITRambo · · Score: 2

    Paper is cheap. It can be recycled. Trees are renewable. I don't see the need for this new paper, other than possible use in a Mission Impossible movie.

  26. Paper is permanent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The point of paper is that it's semi-permanent. That's why it's used so much. This does absolutely nothing to reduce the need for traditional paper. You could do the same thing with a decent tablet already, and for most things you just don't.

    1. Re:Paper is permanent by PPH · · Score: 1

      This could be the re-birth of the pampliset. Where some useful scientific work can be erased and the paper reused for religious nonsense.

      Personally, I welcome our new dark age overlords.

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  27. Office by dohzer · · Score: 1

    How will this affect my paperless office?

  28. Re:Scientists have turned paper into hazardous was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The only reason Titanium oxide has not been banned yet is strong lobbying by the food industry.

    It is well known to be a highly reactive substance (used in drugs to increase their penetration in cells). Sprinkling it right and left in direct contact with human beings, and hope they are not simultaneously exposed to something that will react with it, is sheer madness.

    But then, profit first, class actions second.

  29. but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok,it maybe usless in most offices.
    But for t-shirt printing it sounds good,a new saying/picture every 5 days,sounds good to me...
    What makes the reaction fade ?
    Perhaps it would be possible to seal them slightly and print them in layers so you automatically get new image etc one after the other over a few months/year !!

  30. Heat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Student to teacher: The heater ate my homework.

  31. Re:Congratulations! You re-invented Blueprints by omnichad · · Score: 1

    The difference is that the white portions still have ink and the whole thing can be erased. Otherwise it works the same way, yes.

  32. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like the sort of people who would fly into a rage and violently protest the speech of a gay Jew? Like in Berkeley last week?

    I can't stand Milo, but he has the right to speak his mind just like anyone else. Shutting him down was a shameful example of muzzling free speech. Left unchecked, "social justice" seems to morph into the "tyranny of the politically correct" every goddamn time.

    Supporting "free speech" means supporting the kind of speech we disagree with or even hate, it doesn't mean allowing only the kind of speech we happen to agree with or find acceptable.

    So to all of you self-righteous silencers out there, if you don't support the kind of speech you detest, you're not supporting free speech. It's a shame that so many people just don't get this.

    Most recently the suppression of opposing opinions as been rebranded as the "no platforming", which is just suppression of free speech under a new, trendy term.

    Again, I can't stand Milo Yiannopoulos- he's a self-loathing toady, but even he gets things right once in a while. While I disagree with 95% of the shit that comes out of his mouth, he should have the right to spew his nonsense just like anyone else.

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  33. Feature Request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reproduce the smell of a mimeograph printed sheet!

  34. Ethan Hunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This message will self destruct in five days.

  35. Not renewable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quote: When the coating is exposed to ultraviolet light, electrons from titanium oxide move to the dye in the nanoparticle.

    Sounds like they want us to replace an easily renewed technology, plain paper, with one involving a relatively scare an non-renewable metal, titanium

    Not a good idea, although I would not be surprised if environmentalists went gah-gah over since such paper would cost more.

    1. Re: Not renewable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How is To rare? It is more abundant in the Earth's crust than Tin, Leaf, Mercury, Copper, and Nickel. It's one of the 10 most abundant materials in the crust and much of it us near the surface.

  36. Smell? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Does it smell like duplicator fluid or diazo?

  37. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by dbIII · · Score: 1

    seems to morph into the "tyranny of the politically correct" every goddamn time.

    It used to be called being polite in polite company and only ranting about all women being whores useless even for that (Milo is a nasty piece of shit isn't he?) among those who didn't care what crap came out of a mouth. Of course people can do it just like some people always have, but of course it's going to piss people off when it's the wrong time and place.
    This "tyranny of the politically correct" is IMHO just a new way of whining about an age-old situation, unless it's complaining about not being able to insult people in certain ways.

    So to all of you self-righteous silencers out there

    OK, you want to silence the "silencers"? Pointing shit out is not exactly silencing people even if you don't want to hear their shit, it cuts both ways.

  38. Government by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

    For one, the IRS. They love their paper for all but simple tax filing. I recently had a minor issue and they would accept FAX, or paper snail mail corrections. FAX? who does FAX anymore. Paper meant I had to print out a new copy of the corrected form from pdf and then mail it. Two pieces of paper.

  39. too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's neat, but should have been invented 30 years ago when we still used paper.

  40. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's the biggest problem with what happened at Berkeley, and this disgusts me. What the left did in their "demonstrations" turned Milo Yiannopoulos the victim. Stop and think about that for a minute. He now has a platform to plead for sympathy. If you want to shut him down, go to his talk, and ask him questions. Make him look like an idiot. People like him are easy to catch in contradictory statements and are easy to discredit. Just make him look like a fool by his own hand. It's the most effective way to shut somebody like him down. Setting things on fire and forcing his appearances to be canceled by violence turns him into a martyr and harms your own cause.

    And to people saying he may have brought in the violence instigators himself, I don't believe that. The week prior he gave a talk near me at CU Boulder. It was protested the correct way with minimal trouble. And CU Boulder is nearly as liberal as Berkeley and inciting a riot there would have helped him nearly as much as at Berkeley.

  41. Xerox did this decades ago by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    I recall decades ago Xerox tried marketing an erasable paper copy machine. Never heard of it? Right. It wasn't popular.

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    1. Re:Xerox did this decades ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.slashgear.com/xerox’s-erasable-paper-302696/

      2006 it looks like.

  42. Hm. I wonder how much carbon is involved... by mellon · · Score: 1

    ...in keeping a piece of paper at 120 degrees for ten minutes.

  43. Toilet paper? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cool! I'm always running out.

  44. Was this invented by Africans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can anybody tell me why not?

  45. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've said it a million times..... in the US we are guaranteed the right to offend, not the right to not be offended.
    Far too many people seem to think they have the right to not be offended. And some of those people actually hold public office, which should be pretty disturbing to anyone with a brain.

  46. Who does fax anymore? by davidwr · · Score: 1

    FAX? who does FAX anymore.

    I guess the "fax gene" is spreading through Washington:

    The next story up is FBI Will Revert To Using Fax Machines, Snail Mail For FOIA Requests

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  47. printing animated gifs by davidwr · · Score: 1

    I can still print out animated .GIFs, right?

    Yes.

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  48. Re: Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not allowing hate speech is not in any way shape or form disallowing freedom of speech. No Milo's does not have a right to speak.

  49. Go back to the past by davidwr · · Score: 1

    how DO you get to paperless?

    This way worked for a large part of human history.

    It's not efficient but the way things are going we may get to that point.

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  50. Ideal for Presidential/Congressional Orders by guruevi · · Score: 1

    Have your congress critters write any stupid laws like DMCA on this, any damage gets undone after a few days.

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  51. Re:Scientists have turned paper into hazardous was by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Titanium dioxide and zinc oxide are the 2 most common white pigments. It might be appropriate to ban it in foods (I'm ignorant here) but ban it generally, no way.

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  52. Re:Congratulations! You re-invented Blueprints by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Blueprints and other diazotypes use ammonia to develop the image.

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  53. Externalities matter by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

    Unless this paper costs less than 80 times the cost of a sheet of regular paper, it's a dumb idea. Not to mention the energy used in heating every sheet of paper you use to 120C instead of just recycling it.

  54. Re:Hm. I wonder how much carbon is involved... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to mention that growing trees sequesters carbon.

    Grow more trees! Use more paper!

  55. Re:Hm. I wonder how much carbon is involved... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depends on the size of the sheet, but a typical A4 sheet weighs 5 grams. You can figure out the weight of carbon in cellulose yourself though...

  56. Bilbo's sword... by sacrilicious · · Score: 1

    ... used the same technology to detect goblins.

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  57. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pointing things out should not involve burning other peoples property or threatening physical violence. And there is a difference between saying all X are Y and actually acting like all X are Y or even going around referring to all X as Y. It's not like anyone could know all X, except when X is a very small group.

    I find Milo to be funny and the reactions to him even more so.

  58. Re:Scientists have turned paper into hazardous was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "nanoparticles, which are a million times smaller than the thickness of human hair"

    HELL NO!!!
    When stuff like this gets in the environment and starts clogging up capillaries in the eyes and kidneys the people that created it should be punished publicly. Blindness and a lifetime of dialysis just because of some self aggrandizing scientists. Children doomed to a life of darkness and pain.

  59. Re: Homophobic Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill both sides, leaves the normal people in peace.

    Stranger, you seem a might queer to me.

  60. when you're done with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    people in my office would just throw this away just like regular paper
    they throw soda cans in the trash right next to the collection bin

  61. They didn't invent anything by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Cyanotype printing was invented in 1842

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  62. disappearing ink by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    We've had disappearing ink for centuries. What good is this?

  63. Where's my dollar-sized receipt? by istartedi · · Score: 1

    I don't want to see any "innovative" paper products until my grocery receipt is dollar-sized and printed on paper with out Bisphenol or some other such toxic nonsense on it. How many times have you bought just a couple things, and they hand you your receipt with the cash and the receipt is 3 times longer than a dollar and a lot wider too? What's up with that?

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  64. Nanoparticles? by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

    Any word yet as to how easily it will be for these nanoparticles to rub off and get into people's lungs?

    Very small particle pollution is a major source of lung cancer. As is often the case with most of new technology, there is little thought as to the long term health and environmental consequences of production and use. Such issues tend to be ignored in the rush to make money, but can end up costing everyone more than anyone expected, in many cases their very lives.

  65. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    OK, you want to silence the "silencers"? Pointing shit out is not exactly silencing people even if you don't want to hear their shit, it cuts both ways.

    No, I never said anything about silencing people, in fact what I said was pretty much the opposite. Here's what I said:

    So to all of you self-righteous silencers out there, if you don't support the kind of speech you detest, you're not supporting free speech.

    How did you manage to warp that statement into me wanting to silence anyone?

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  66. The perfect use by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
    Many years ago someone came up with the idea of a DVD with a time-degrading dye. Rent a movie printed on one of these, and as soon as the renter opens the package the dye starts to oxidize and fade. No need to return it, it just stops working. See how popular that was?

    So, here's the perfect solution for libraries. Print-on-demand the book, assume it dies in five days, and then it is free to loan to the next person. You don't need a building full of dead trees, just reams of this paper and the special printer. This keeps the people who want paper books happy, solves the problem of paying late return fees.

  67. Not as good as you think by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Been in the copier/printer business for over 35 years. Every major brand, has tried the "erasable" trick before, with terrible results. Mainly, the powder toner, reacts differently under a specific temperature. At one temperature, you can read the print. At another temperature, it turns the toner crystals/powder "clear". You can reuse the same paper about 3-5 times, before there is so much toner "clear" on the paper, that it leaves blank spots in areas where the toner is suppose to be, but can't adhere to the paper. Plus, even on clean paper, once erased, if you hold it to the light just right, you can barely make out the old print. These things were designed for simple inter-office memo type things I guess. The other drawback, is the erasable toner, is VERY VERY expensive. One manufacturer, could not sell them, so they took it in the rear, gave them away to school systems. We set up a bunch, at no charge, gave them to a bunch of schools. By the time they started replacing the empty toner, and paying for it, they gave them all back. The manufacturer didn't want them back, so we stripped out any usable things, then sent the rest to a e-waste recycle company for disposal. This idea, using the paper, will probably be expensive, since it will take "special" paper. The other problem, is, with special paper, and the many variable temperature ranges that most printers and photocopiers fuse the toner into the paper, usually in a range of 300-400 degrees, and the many curves that paper must make during its travel, not to mention will it work on duplexing (2 sided) copying, I don't really see anything other than a "niche" market for something like this.

  68. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Don't take it personally - I'm describing all those who are suggesting everyone who is "politically correct" should shut up.
    I should have replaced the word "you" in that final two sentences but missed it.

    As I see it a lot of the "alt-right" shit is about shouting other people down. That's not good IMHO from either end and is the way to spot an extremist.

  69. Re:Homophobic Nazis? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I should have replaced the word "you" in that final two sentences but missed it.

    No problem, I find myself doing that and it's often misconstrued as being aimed at the person I'm conversing with.

    And yes, Milo is a nasty piece of shit. I find 95% of the stuff he says to be deliberately inflammatory, misleading, or unfairly generalizing. Once in a very great while he'll say something that actually makes some sense, but he revels in pushing buttons just for the outrage value and I'll give him credit for being skilled at it.

    The fact is that he's a bitter, self-loathing gay man who would be among the first to be lynched if his vision of society were ever to come to pass. He supports the very kind of people that would put a bullet in his head the moment they had the chance. The lack of rational self-awareness he demonstrates is mind-boggling.

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  70. Re: Homophobic Nazis? by sabbede · · Score: 1

    Speech that you hate != Hate speech.

  71. An etch-a-sketch that needs batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An etch-a-sketch is much simpler to use an erase and it even lasts longer