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Senators Push Trump Administration For Clarity On Privacy Act Exclusions (onthewire.io)
Trailrunner7 quotes a report from On the Wire: A group of influential lawmakers, including Sen. Ed Markey and Sen. Ron Wyden, are pressing the Trump administration for answers about how an executive order that includes changes to the Privacy Act will affect non-U.S. persons and whether the administration plans to release immigrants' private data. The letter comes from six senators who are concerned about the executive order that President Trump issued two weeks ago that excludes from privacy protections people who aren't U.S. citizens or permanent residents. The order is mostly about changes to immigration policy, but Trump also included a small section that requires federal government agencies to exclude immigrants from Privacy Act protections. On Thursday, Markey, Wyden, and four other senators sent a letter to Secretary of Homeland Security Jon Kelly, asking a series of 10 questions about how the exclusion would be implemented, what it would cost, and whether the government plans to release the private data of people affected by the order. "These Privacy Act exclusions could have a devastating impact on immigrant communities, and would be inconsistent with the commitments made when the government collected much of this information," the senators said in the letter to Kelly. In the letter, the lawmakers ask Kelly whether people affected by the order will be allowed full access to their own private data that has been collected by the government. They also ask how the government plans to identify U.S. persons in their databases and what policies DHS will apply to separate them from non-U.S persons. The letter also asks for clarification on how the executive order will affect the Privacy Shield pact between the U.S and the European Union. That agreement enables companies to move private data between countries under certain data protection laws.
Until we reduce the reelection rates in congress you can forget about it.
Meanwhile CIA and FBI staff have confirmed Flynn's discussions with the Russian Ambassador about lifting sanctions, as described in the pee memo. BEFORE the election.
"A US official confirmed to CNN late Friday afternoon that Flynn and the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, did speak about sanctions, among other matters, during the call....Flynn cannot rule out that he spoke to Kislyak about sanctions, an aide close to the national security adviser said earlier Friday. Flynn, the aide said, has "no recollection of discussing sanctions," but added that the national security adviser "couldn't be certain that the topic never came up."
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/flynn-russia-us-sanctions-reports/index.html
Keep in mind Flynn was a nobody, back in August, when the memo says Putin was grooming him. Which means Putin knew before America that Trump would pluck this nobody for his security advisor, and it confirms Trump conspired with Putin to select people. The Russian Ambassador knew too, before the election that Flynn was to be appointed, again before Trump actually chose him. Proving the two conspired.
At this point Republicans need to get their shit together, prosecute Trump for treason, put Pence in, get the cyber security bill signed, the one Trump is blocking. Get the generals put back onto the National Security council, after Trump demoted them to occasional consultants... they are Congretional Appointees assigned to the National Security Council FFS, America is vulnerable if the military is removed from those meetings, and only Putin's agents are present.
The two spies Putin arrested, they fit the profile of the two known agents in the pee memos. These agents were known and considered reliable by NSA, CIA, MI6 etc. Yet they were arrested just after Trump's men entered the CIA. If they are US spies in Russia, then Trump needs to face espionage charges for passing their names across.
Kick this whiney buttercup out of office and put a Republican in.
He doesnt know what any of his policies are.
No one is going to share data with the US if it goes ahead with this. The EU is already reluctant.
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This is political crap.
That's the entire point of Steve Bannon, the "President behind the curtain". He wants to destabilize the entire planet and destroy civilization as we know it. This is an exact quote from him:
“Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
He's the one who's really writing many of these Executive Orders. He wants to burn it all down, and rebuild it in his own twisted image that fits his into his alt-right image. He knows that our society is held together by very fragile bonds formed through trust, past promises, monetary policy; attack these pillars and the whole thing will collapse.
There were multiple plausible solutions to the puzzle when it was merely the Trump campaign, and what they learned then is that clarity is the enemy. It wasn't necessary to win the election, and it's not going to be a high priority now.
Bilaterally, the Democratic campaign was no better at it.
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According to the US Government roughly 35% of all tourists to the country come from Western European countries. I'm pretty sure your idea will work real well.
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Until we reduce the reelection rates in congress you can forget about it.
We have become so partisan in this country - which the ruling class LOVES - that we'll never see that happen.
My state keeps sending the same old people back every year. Why? because it means voting for a Democrat.
And that will never happen. In my state, all a Republican needs to do is say "Pro-Life" and "Roe vs Wade has to go" and "Democrats gonna take yer guns!" he's in. And here, Democrats are socialists!
Privacy and the finer points of civil liberties goes right over their heads. And how those "Conservatives" have gamed the system against them: how their retirement plans are being gouged by financial firms' fees; how they are being gouged by their ISP and cable TV company; why the business up the road can dump just about anything it wants into the ground; just flies through their ears.
As long as they have their bibles, guns, football on ESPN and F-150, they're happier than the pigs on the McCully farm. You can do anything you want to them politically.
I really hope my disgust for the American electorate shows.
and I doubt they even wrote the executive order.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
As someone who lives in Western Europe and has been travelling to the USA since 1975 I can safely say that I really have no inclination to want to visit while you current TWIC (Tweeter in Charge) is running the show.
Sorry guys but my tourist dollar will be going elsewhere for the forseeable future.
Last year I spent close on $3,000 in the USA. This year, I'm going to Sri Lanka.
Trump didn't make any "changes to the privacy act", nor could he if he wanted to.
What they are saying is clear from these paragraphs:
So, citizens and immigrants are excluded.
Next:
I.e., the Obama administration made promises to people illegally present in the US that are not backed by law. And the Trump administration is saying that it does not intend to keep those promises, for the simple reason that they are planning on using information collected from illegals in order to prioritize and deport them.
That's a red herring; Privacy Shield is backed by law and an entirely separate issue. Trump isn't trying to go after EU citizens who have shared their information with Google or Microsoft, he is trying to go after people illegally present in the US. If Trump wanted to exclude EU citizens from privacy protections or even visa free travel, he could do that easily, but this EO doesn't do it. In fact, generally speaking, the Trump administration wants more immigration from democratic Western nations and less immigration from other parts of the world, so Europe is pretty much the last place on earth they want to make it hard to immigrate or travel from.
It's, of course, perfectly legitimate for senators to ask questions of the current administration. But let's not kid ourselves, this inquiry is political posturing, not a serious attempt at clarification, from senators that have little political power left; they are looking for ammunition against Trump. It will be interesting to see how Trump responds. I suspect, as he has done before, Trump will manage to turn these senators into unwitting allies in spreading his message.
Flynn was named the National Security Advisor in the transition team, so meeting w/ envoys of other countries to discuss the agenda would have been part of his job description. In other words, him meeting the envoy of one of the world's 2 other superpowers would have been pretty high on his list.
The OP's post is just a carryover of Democrat bitterness over losing the elections, and trying to illegitimize the role of Wikileaks here by tying it to Russia. Even though Assange has stated that Russia was not the source of his leaks. In fact, unlike in the physical world where only national spy agencies might have certain capabilities, in the cyber world, anybody can hack email systems. Particularly ones protected by passwords that are 'password'
Nice try, anonymous troll. By most measures, Europe is a much safer place than the US. You are unlikely for example to be shot for honking at someone cutting in front of you. You are also safe from civil forfeiture. And you have the right to criticise the president - any president.
But as the OP said, civil liberties are not appreciated anymore.
Interesting you should say this. One of my friends and his family was planning to visit the UK last fall, but after a stabbing jihad attack in London, he canned that plan and went to the Canadian Rockies instead.
Most of the posters on /., as well as members of 'The Resistance' are pissed that people from countries like Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria are being stopped from coming to the US. They should put their money where their mouth is and go to one of these countries on vacation, instead of talking places like Sri Lanka or New Zealand or other such places
I'm sure he's going to get right on that mission of removing the political class from power now that he is part of it. Literally lol.
...than just question that part of the EO. Senators should stop waving clearly unqualified and utterly inept chronic liars through into cabinet positions. Are the Republican Senators so afraid of orange Trump that they just fold like a cheap tent? What do I expect from folks who for a year outright refused to do their job!?
I agree with the current administration that privacy is counter to keeping us safe and making America great again. Let's start with this document.
Why wasn't this document released on WikiLeaks? Perhaps because there is something like "honor among thieves"?
Why would you be friends with anybody who would even consider leaving the USA for any reason, even just to have fun spending their great American dollars in some foreign land. Now that Trump (nee: Drumpf) is in charge, American inner-cities will be safe again and certainly far more interesting than any foreign terrorist breeding ground like the UK - and their money will stay right here in the good old U S of A where it can help make America great again!
Another option - open primaries. Instead of having separate R and D primaries, have one open primary that all candidates take part in, with the top two going on to the actual election.
That has a fair chance of breaking the lock-in in highly partisan races, since you may well end up with two R or two D candidates going into the election. At which point you've got the whole electorate voting for whichever candidate they think is best, rather than just voting the party line.
Of course you may well get a bunch of disheartened "minority party" voters who don't bother to vote at all, but in a heavily partisan state you probably have that anyway. And at least with two "Evil party" members on the ballot you can vote for the lesser evil.
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The same is true about visiting europe. Nothing about constant terrror attacks from refugee that roam the street and are not properly vetted. LOVE PARIS. Was there last summer and it was out and out SCARY with all the refugess sleeping on street corners and trying to rob you
How can you possibly say that.? In Europe, you can't carry your 14 round Glock pistol or your M-16 derived 'hunting rifle' into the grocery store. You never know what lurks behind the shelves.
You're never safe over there.
Never.
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Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
So, the Constitution isn't something Federal judges are supposed to cite.
Interesting outlook on the state of the country there.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Last year I spent close on $3,000 in the USA. This year, I'm going to Sri Lanka.
Enjoy your trip.
Meanwhile, Trump will just have ICE deport three more illegal immigrant households, more than making up for the money you might have spent (even if you'd been giving it straight to the US taxpayers, rather than mostly to the megacorps that exploit them.)
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Was this that great document that got splashed on Buzzfeed and cited on CNN, thereby earning the latter Trump's permanent stamp of 'Fake News' and crashing their reputation among all but the most loony on the Left such as you?
This is the difference of issues..
Some people cancel travel over a specific/isolated crime event (something that can happen literally anywhere).. VS.. a government actively turning into a 3rd world dictatorship + isolated crime event (like the above) + the general attitude of the local populous.
Yes, events do happen, but systemic issues + government turning into an oppressive regime = no tourists. (I know personally about 40 Chinese and Indian investors that are cancelling trips (and when I say investors, I mean people that can blow 50K USD on a night of fun without blinking an eye and buy million dollar homes like most by sandwiches) because of how the US is turning.. I myself (no where near their level of wealth but we do ok) am packing my family and heading out to Taiwan and England.. (we are moving our businesses out of the US and into Canada.. it will take a year or so to complete, but once we saw who was running, we knew back in June, it was not going to end well).
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Actually it DOES have an impact on our work.
Some of them are self-employed (which means a smaller market, and a shifting set of regulations that we can't plan around or who we can even sell to)
Also with this "political crap" going on.. its going to change who can be employed, which means potentially a lot of new faces (ie: projects will get delayed, or even halted, some projects will be cancelled due to workforce issues.
And if you think all these "changes" are going to be good for operating expenses, doubtful.
So yes, if you mean the nuts and bolts of our work, no.. but will have an impact on our jobs and by extension our lives.
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The privacy act offers a level of protection in the USA for citizens, legal non citizens in the USA from intrusive gov searches over vast shared gov databases.
The US State department officials will keep on allowing refugees, students, workers, random people into the USA from nations that are on watch lists.
So the travel aspect of getting valid US paperwork cant be changed thanks to massive amount of travel paperwork still been issued by US bureaucrats.
The good news is people entering the US on such paperwork then face border control. Congress has passed a lot of real legal power for border control.
Over the past decades the usable legal powers at the US border have been added to by Congress.
Lying on entry to the USA does not get a lot of court protection. Found to be lying in the USA still gets court access, protections to try and halt any gov action.
So any Sate department issues paperwork is valid but ability to question at any crossing point into the US still works very well.
Entering any nation is not a right, that granted privilege can be revoked as more facts are discovered during a normal interview.
Once a non citizen is in the USA legally some protection exist. At that crossing point, Congress has been very clear in what can be done to protect the USA from nations that support, fund and hide interesting people, cults, faiths, groups, political parties.
If you are entering/renetering the US every US public, mil, gov, public/private partnership, private, city, state, court, police, federal, social media database should be used during an interview.
Why should anyone get international legal cover, bluff, hide, omit, charm, forge or fake their way into the USA by lying to a United States official?
Just having EU citizenship is not some legal magic diplomatic immunity when entering the USA.
Given the ever changing ability to get EU citizenship by walking in from any random nation, it would be very difficult for the US to evaluate any interesting person "given" any EU passport.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Good! Stay gone! America doesn't need fair-weather friends who will drop us the minute we elect a politician they don't like.
Americans are tired of wasting money on the likes of NATO, bases in Germany, etc. A complete waste of money that we canâ(TM)t afford, and which serves no purpose. If Russia wants to annex the Ukraine I donâ(TM)t care at all, not even a tiny bit.
The EU also has massive, massive problems, unelected, unresponsive bureaucrats who view their jobs as an all expense paid vacation, flooding the continent with third world migrants, etc.
European welfare state model is also probably unsustainable, particularly w/o the hapless US taxpayers funding their defense.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Maybe it is fake, but Trump's stamp of 'Fake News' means nothing because he applied it to photos of the crowd at his inauguration.
We'll need someone other than Trump to call it fake to be sure.
Term limits only ensure that you replace a Republican with another Republican, or a Democrat with another Democrat.
No, the real solution (IMO) is to attack gerrymandering. Make the districts unsafe for any party! Safe districts are a pox on democracy. Get some control on gerrymandering and you start to break down the walls of the echo chamber.
I'm sure he's going to get right on that mission of removing the political class from power now that he is part of it. Literally lol.
Which you begin by limiting who can oppose you.
Which is exactly what they are trying to do by labelling any media outlet that disagrees with them as fake news. Eliminate the freedom of the press then control information. Once you do that, you can limit who becomes part of the ruling party. Sounds like its straight out of a story thats on sale for $19.84.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
One single incident doesn't affect crime statistics much. Europe with Muslim violence can still be safer than the US. Humans are poor at judging such dangers, and it's getting worse.
There's reasons why I don't want to visit Iraq, and some of those reasons are why we're getting lots of refugees from there, and why it's important to have a compassionate policy towards refugees (which doesn't preclude the sort of rigorous vetting the US does).
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You know what we really can't afford? Our health care system. If we switched to one that was as expensive as the second most expensive system on the planet, we'd save nearly a trillion a year. That would more than cover NATO activities and much more besides. Let's look at the really big expenses first.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Let's not forget maligning the judicial branch of government and calling them illegitimate.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Okay, where does it say that? The Constitution says Congress is the authority on these things, and the President can use only authority voted by Congress. I reread Article One (about Congress) and Article Two (about the President) last night, so they're clear in my mind.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Trump hasn't banned anyone either, they were just vetted with more attention
and plenty of "majority muslim" countries *aren't* on the list, in fact most of them aren't on the list. phrase is just a attention whoring device