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BlackBerry Files Patent-Infringement Suit Against Nokia (bloombergquint.com)
An anonymous reader writes: BlackBerry has filed a patent-infringement lawsuit against Nokia, demanding royalties on the Finnish company's mobile network products that use an industrywide technology standard. Nokia's products including its Flexi Multiradio base stations, radio network controllers and Liquid Radio software are using technology covered by as many as 11 patents, BlackBerry said in a complaint filed in federal court in Wilmington, Delaware. The mobile network products and services are provided to companies including T-Mobile and AT&T for their LTE networks, BlackBerry said in the complaint. "Nokia has persisted in encouraging the use" of the standard- compliant products without a license from BlackBerry, it said.
It would appear that Nokia are being Rimmed
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
Let me guess.... this is something to do with the up-coming relaunch of the Nokia 3310?
And the inevitable conclusion of a dying tech firm: serial patent litigator.
It is bad to be the loser in this case. Blackberry still has a little bit of product line left, Nokia doesnt even have one left to speak of. When I was much younger my dad came back every day and spent the evenings on his Blackberry talking to other people in the company. It did email and was indestructible. They didnt do enough innovation so Apple took over the whole market. Now you dont see anyone with a phone that isnt made by Apple anymore. Its called innovation. So what happens a lot of times I heard was when small companies are swirilling around the drain they sue each other to pick the other off to be bought/acquired by a bigger comapny so they themselves will be less of a target.
Thats what is going on here. They are trying to sue Nokia so someone like Apple or MSFT picks them off like a hawk and then while the big company is distracted, they will make a comeback
The last phase of a dying company is that it enters the patent trolling stage to milk revenue from others. Depending on the number and quality of the patents, a company can subsist on this business model for years, leeching money from companies that actually make products. There is no known way to destroy parasitic patent trolls.
That's like a zombie wanting to eat the brains of another zombie.
I think we should re-introduce a couple of medieval amusemets, especially reserved for some high-level CEOs.
Perhaps that would restore some of the currently missing social cohesion.
Just imagine some CEOs bound naked to a random village pump. I'd travel there. I'd pay to see that, for sure.
> Apple took over the whole market.
> Now you dont see anyone with a phone that isnt made by Apple anymore.
You lost me right there. Alternate facts?
With trivial Googling, I came up with this. Now that is data from 2nd quarter 2016. But it was the first quick thing I found.
Market share for 2nd Q 2015: Android 82.2 %, iOS 14.6 %, Windows 2.5 %, Blackberry 0.3 %, others 0.4 %.
Market share for 2nd Q 2016: Android 86.2 %, iOS 12.9 %, Windows 0.6 %, Blackberry 0.1 %, others 0.2 %.
What that says is that from 2015 to 2016 only Android had any growth and everything else lost market share. I doubt that in the last year that trend has reversed. Less than a year ago, Android was a stone's throw from having 90 % of the market.
As for "now you don't see anyone with a phone that isn't made by Apple anymore", I would argue that you don't see a anyone with a phone that isn't Android anymore. Made by all non-Apple manufacturers. In every size, shape, color, style, feature set and price range that you can imagine. Not the extremely limited product line made by Apple. When I see someone get out a smart phone, it is inevitably Android, seldom Apple. And this is in the real world. On vacation. Traveling for work. In every day life. Dr's office. Library. Grocery store. Etc. I don't think I live in an "Android bubble". So if you really see such a large number of iPhone users, I wonder if you are in some kind of "Apple bubble" or if it is a genuine phenomena in some region where you live, or what?
As for companies engaging in litigation when they start to circle the drain, I agree completely.
In other news Apple will fight "right to repair" laws. This makes me like Apple even less. Not only would I not ever buy their overpriced products, but they are going to try to prevent me from being able to repair my non-Apple products.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Which Nokia? The real Nokia which bought Alcatel-Lucent is making money hand over fist with their network management software and routers. In fact, good luck doing carrier-grade level networking without A-L hardware. Cisco isn't bad, but there is a difference between enterprise and carrier grade. Nokia also has device management software. They also have their own "carrier grade" cloud service (Cloudband) and are doing well with that.
People think Nokia was just the smartphone company... but realistically, they are doing quite well... the fact that they are not as visible to the end consumer doesn't change much.
Abacus files suit against Adding Machine ...
Scribe files suit against Typewriter
It is bad to be the loser in this case. Blackberry still has a little bit of product line left, Nokia doesnt even have one left to speak of.
You deny the existence of Nokia's products? I hope you don't work for a telecoms operator.
Now you dont see anyone with a phone that isnt made by Apple anymore.
Apple does not make phones and has never made phones (at least not in mass production). All production of Apple-branded phones is outsourced. Moreover, Apple has a market share of less than 15%, so even if Apple's phones were actually made by Apple, your claim would only be true for people who only hang out with Apple fanboys.
This looks like two rats on a sinking ship, fighting over the last piece of cheese.
BlackBerry and Nokia in a patent suit :)
I literally don't see many Android phones though. I'm not the guy you replied to, but my office uses iPhones, almost everyone here has a personal iPhone. When I had a windows phone, the Lumia 1520 I stood out since it was super huge and had the tiles. In my personal life I come across many people using older iPhones instead of using Androids. I know a couple of people with Samsung Edge phones, but it seems to be a rarity. But your numbers are world wide, not US.
Your little microcosm doesn't mean that Apple has the dominant market share by any stretch of the imagination. That's like being in the military and saying, "Green is the most popular color." because all you see is a sea of green uniforms.
In other news Apple will fight "right to repair" laws. This makes me like Apple even less. Not only would I not ever buy their overpriced products, but they are going to try to prevent me from being able to repair my non-Apple products.
Apple is only trying to prevent you from being able to repair Apple products.
The ban on non-apple product repair is just collateral damage to them.
Where I work (~120 employees) I've noticed more Android phones than iPhones, probably 65/35 with Android winning out. We do have people move from one platform to the other, but I've noticed more people going from iOS to Android than the other way around.
Last few people I asked why they switched. When they went to Android it was cost. The few people switching to iOS from Android said they were given a free iPhone (as in: no contract renewal, they were literally given the phone from family/friends. They said they wouldn't have changed to iPhone otherwise.)
That's still 40 or so iPhones here. Four to five years ago we had more iPhones than Android phones.
If the patents no longer protect any product the patents should be voided. Otherwise the patent system gets trolled into garbage disrepute.
It is bad to be the loser in this case. Blackberry still has a little bit of product line left, Nokia doesnt even have one left to speak of.
It's about mobile network products, not phones and Nokia is still doing fairly well there, or there would be little reason to sue -- you don't sue someone with no money to pay up, do you?
Even the summary says "The mobile network products and services are provided to companies including T-Mobile and AT&T for their LTE networks", so you're way off-topic here.
RT.
Aww, and Blackberry Looked like it was coming back. Faces certain doom now.
Can you see this, am I dfoing it right. Am I on the Web now or the Internit?
Now, wait.. You're jumping in a little too soon. After losing this suit and a troll..err...scroll of other suits, RIM/BlackBerry will declare that it created the Internet as we know it today, you know, because ummm... like... uhhhh..... there wouldn't be mobile-slanted stuff if.. they... didn't..start..it... uhhh.... and there would be...lke..no Internet without...it? *drools*