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Tech Reporting Is More Negative Now Than in the Past (betanews.com)

Wayne Williams, writing for BetaNews: A new study finds that tech reporting is generally more pessimistic now than in the past, and for two very different reasons. The new report from the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF), and based on textual analysis of 250 articles from The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post from 1986 to 2013, highlights how the tone of tech reporting has shifted in the past 20 years. In general, the ITIF found that in the 1980s and 1990s, coverage of technology was largely positive, but this changed from the mid-1990s to 2013, when more negative reports covering the downside of technology, its failure to live up to its promises, and potential ill effects, started to appear. The ITIF attributes this shift to two main causes, the first being that "there has been a significant increase in the number of civil-society organizations and attention-seeking scholars focused on painting a threatening picture of technology," and second, and perhaps most pertinent, "news organizations are under increased financial pressure, and as a result, reporters may have less time and fewer resources to dig deep into technology issues."

156 comments

  1. #3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Controversy and conflict draws attention.

    1. Re:#3 by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Media in general us more negative.

      Also I've observed in my own life that the number of people I know who are willing to belligerently express their negative opinions has increased, but might be my fault.

    2. Re:#3 by ISoldat53 · · Score: 2

      If it bleeds it leads. If it doesn't bleed poke it a few times.

  2. Only Tech? by djinn6 · · Score: 1

    I feel like almost all reporting is negative nowadays. Tech and science are the two categories that still have good news being reported.

    1. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporate media puts out a steady drumbeat of 5 minute hate articles nowadays to control the Overton Window. I'm surprised it didn't turn out even more negative than that.

    2. Re:Only Tech? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I feel like almost all reporting is negative nowadays.

      Maybe because all the news is negative nowadays.

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    3. Re:Only Tech? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I thought tech news was where all the good news is, with commodity parts and standards everywhere.

      I guess it depends which technologies you use.

    4. Re:Only Tech? by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2
      It has been for a long time. The phrase:

      If it bleeds it leads.

      has been around for a long time.

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    5. Re:Only Tech? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe because all the news is negative nowadays.

      Except that, by any objective measure, the news is NOT negative. The world is most peaceful. The worst war is in Syria, which is a minor conflict by historical standards. There is almost no chance of major power conflict. Living standards are improving across the world. Hundreds of millions of people are rising to the middle class, and in the last ten years, more than a billion have risen out of extreme poverty. Populate growth is falling almost everyone outside Africa. Literacy rates are going up. We are finding cures for diseases, and beating back HIV and malaria. We are making steady progress on solutions to pollution and climate change.

      The major headlines in America today (Feb 23rd) are not about war, famine, or plague, but about whether school restroom usage policy should be decided by the federal government, or left up to locals. I don't mean to belittle the issue, but that is hardly an existential crisis for humanity.

      If you think that the reality of what is happening in the world is mostly negative, you should reconsider your news sources, and get a more balanced perspective.

    6. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just reporting, but media in general. If I go on Netflix it seems like almost all the shows coming out recently have been dark, anti-hero, dystopian style dramas. Mr Robot, Jessica Jones, Dare Devil, House Of Cards, the latest rash of super hero movies... They are all extremely dark compared to the equivalent shows from, say, 20 years ago. Go watch a 90s episode of Superman, Due South or the Batman animated series and then compare that against modern day Dare Devil or Scandal. The modern shows rarely have a moral beacon, a clear-cut good guy. They're all shades of grey and cases of less-of-two-evils moral grey area. Frankly, just about every show I have watched in the past five years as been depressing. I think it's an indicator of our culture's general outlook.

    7. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My kingdom for mod points

    8. Re:Only Tech? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I feel like almost all reporting is negative nowadays.

      Hasn't that always been the case?
      People don't want to read good news. Humans interest stories are seen as fluff pieces. "If it bleeds, it leads"?

    9. Re:Only Tech? by skids · · Score: 4, Funny

      I feel like almost all reporting is negative nowadays.

      Yeah, it's totally negative. The worst. Really awful. How can people be so horribly negative. Sad!

    10. Re:Only Tech? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The major headlines in America today (Feb 23rd) are not about war, famine, or plague, but about whether school restroom usage policy should be decided by the federal government, or left up to locals. I don't mean to belittle the issue, but that is hardly an existential crisis for humanity.

      Yet it appears to be a focus of the current government.

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    11. Re:Only Tech? by elgatozorbas · · Score: 2

      Except that, by any objective measure, the news is NOT negative. The world is most peaceful.

      No. You are confusing what is happening, the facts with the news. At the moment, the news may very well be the worst of all times, even if the facts aren't.

      If you think that the reality of what is happening in the world is mostly negative, you should reconsider your news sources, and get a more balanced perspective.

      The OP's personal source of news is irrelevant in this discussion. Bad news sells better than good news, even for the NYT and the WSJ. As TFA puts it "...they have an incentive to pursue alarmist stories that generate clicks."

    12. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they following culture or leading it? I haven't seen a movie in ten years, don't fb, don't have a tv (couldn't name a single show that I've sen in the last five years if my life depended on it) and most things/people around me are upbeat and positive. And I am in no means rich.

    13. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst war is in Syria, which is a minor conflict...

      Sure, and because of it, Europe only has a minor Syrian "tourist" problem.

    14. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you miss The Guardian view on famine: sitting by as disaster unfolds? 20 millions may starve to dead within 6 months if we don't donate 4.4 billion dollar.

      There is also the news about Morocco beating down protest in the Rif with violence and the talks about letting those Rif people move to Europe as 'refugees'. This while Morocco is looking to replace its economical ties with the EU with economical ties with Russia and China. Another potential open border is in the making while the EU doesn't show any leadership and will haply let NGO's with ferries import all those refugees while waving the finger at people who protest and letting the amount of people voting for extreme right parties grow in number.

      Then there is Erdogan in Turkey who is starting his European campaign to demand European Turks to vote him as dictator. The last time he came on a campaign he ordered Turks to never integrate and to keep an eye on other Turkish people to keep them in line (social control). Next week he will probably talk a lot more aggressive. There have been a lot of problems between Turkish people already. Several stores and schools were destroyed last summer (Turkish stores and schools destroyed by other Turks). Erdogan also wants non APK supporting Turks to be arrested and extradited to Erdogan's Turkey. He is very popular among European Turks and many will blindly follow his commands. Knowing European leaders they will say 'free speech ', 'don't be islamophobe', 'don't be racist' and just let Erdogan speech hatred in front of 80,000 people again.

      Of course the main news is only about Donald Trump and his tweets and the tweets of some celebrities I've even never heard off against Trump. It seems that the only thing that happens in the world is Trump sending a tweet, and if my European country already neglects other world news in favor of stupid tweets, I guess in the US it's even worse.

    15. Re: Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop lying with fake news! Hillary personally stabbed millions of American purple heart winning saints in Benghazi! Lalalalalalalallalalaa!

    16. Re: Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Hillary left a gay man who was a US Ambassador to be tortured to death by Islamic Terrorists in Benghazi.

    17. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It really is a minor problem by historical standards.
      That it is considered such a big deal is evidence that things are going well.

    18. Re:Only Tech? by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      No one claimed the world was perfect. The claim is that it is improving.
      When we make statistics about malnutrition, it includes the potential 20M you mentioned, and the average trend is down. Political unrest is not new either, it comes and goes, some countries get better and some get worse, but the big picture is that things are improving.
      The first argument is typical of NGOs looking for funding. It is marketing strategy : look at all the bad things that happen, you can do something by giving us money. If they tell you that everything is fine, how will they motivate people to give them the money they need to do what they do?

    19. Re:Only Tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because it drives clicks/views. If it bleeds it leads.

    20. Re:Only Tech? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Erdogan also wants non APK supporting Turks to be arrested and extradited to Erdogan's Turkey.

      Be careful bringing him up, all it takes is three times saying the name to summon the demon.

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  3. Quantity has overtaken Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It should be more negative on average because we are flooded with so much more BS clickbait.

  4. This is how it works by Rakarra · · Score: 2

    When you're looking ahead, you often think of a bright positive future. You think of ways in which technology can make lives better.

    It's when we're 'there,' when we're in the future, that we can look back and see the impact. It's a lot easier to analyze failure that has already happened than it is to anticipate the strange ways in which people work.

    1. Re:This is how it works by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      The focus with news tends to be on "current events", not so much "future events". Even then, things like nuclear science have gotten tons of bad press, although much of that was before the period they are looking at (mid-80s to mid-2010s). Or, if you look at more speculative media (sci-fi) you will see negative portrayals abound. Going way back to the 1800s. Frankenstein, H.G. Wells.

    2. Re:This is how it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. In the 80s and 90s tech reporting was about what tech could do for you. Now it's about what tech is going to do TO you, and almost none of it is good.

    3. Re:This is how it works by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Agreed. In the 80s and 90s tech reporting was about what tech could do for you. Now it's about what tech is going to do TO you, and almost none of it is good.

      It depends on what segment of tech reporting we're talking about. In the early to mid 1990s, mainstream media reporting on the Internet was almost entirely negative, casting it as a darknet of predators ready to lure away the children of unwary parents. The Internet has its faults, but no one can get away with that level of nonsense now about the Internet as a whole.

    4. Re:This is how it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the news start to hype the next thing, and the next news over hype it and then you get there and the news report the next thing turned just like the bland current thing, and the next news over hype the negativity even more, the next thing turned rubbish
      add people comments at forums, arm chair specialists, competitors astroturfing and plain fake news and we get where we are right now

  5. The magic is dead. by thegreatbob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back then, things probably seemed novel and exciting to a broader array of people. These days, I get the feeling that the people who were once excited about those things (myself included) now, often, see them as little more than faster and more complicated versions of the things they replaced. Another issue is people's preconceived notions about how the latest and greatest tech ought to be; I suspect that they feel let down by the slow progress towards the things they believe to be the way of the future. If these things are true, it's not surprising that people in all circles would tend to have a pessimistic outlook on technology.

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    1. Re:The magic is dead. by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Computing is pretty much ubiquitous nowadays. When I first got into computing back in grade school around 1981-82, computers were just this incredibly awesome thing. There was a pioneering spirit to the home computing world. I remember taking my crappy little Radio Shack computer to local meetups, and you'd have everyone from ten year olds like myself to grizzled old guys (who could actually afford cool peripherals like disk drives and the like). That persisted to some extent until the early 1990s, with the earliest versions of Linux like the original Slackware release being the swan song of an age of computing that had persisted since the mid-70s. Once the Internet really overtook the old BBS culture, that was the final nail. I blame it all on AOL!

      I can remember pouring through Byte magazine back in the mid-80s and just salivating over the idea of having a modem or a double-sided floppy drive. It was just a very optimistic age. I found an old box of computer magazines from the era, and still smiled at the three page BASIC program listing for some sort of text adventure game, remembering how I built my first one based on a how-to book I'd ordered from an advertisement in the back. Good times.

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    2. Re:The magic is dead. by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      I blame it all on AOL!

      YES! Although it didn't get as bad as it is today until digg changed their format causing people to look elsewhere.

    3. Re:The magic is dead. by BaronM · · Score: 2

      I can sort-of agree with this, but I'd like to add something more specific: since the Internet has become ubiquitous, it seems like we spend almost as much time and effort patching and securing our computers as we do using them. When a personal computer was an island unto itself, and a LAN was truly local, security was mostly a matter of basic policies, procedures, and permissions applying to a known and reachable population.

      Now, companies and even individuals are subjected to an asymmetrical threat environment were they need to be prepared to secure their systems from a never-ending stream of phishing attempts, drive-by malware, and possibly even targeted attacks. Playing defense is hard, since a defender has to be strong everywhere at all times. An attacker only has to find one weak point, one time to establish a penetration.

      It's exhausting, and not even remotely fun unless you are in the infosec field, and can afford to treat it as a competition and source of business rather than a bottomless pit of time and effort with no return in productivity, fun, or profit.

    4. Re:The magic is dead. by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Computing is pretty much ubiquitous nowadays. When I first got into computing back in grade school around 1981-82, computers were just this incredibly awesome thing.

      And no matter how fast technology goes there's a diminishing return, like the difference between CGA, EGA and VGA is never coming back no matter how much people talk about 4K, 10 bit, HDR, Rec. 2020 and so on. Doubling from 1MB to 2MB meant more than 1GB to 2GB. The last time I was genuinely floored by new hardware was in 2002 with Morrowind when I installed a new GPU with hardware T&L. Suddenly the grass looked like grass, the sea looked like sea, things started to have realistic textures and shadows and whatnot. Sure in sum we've come far since then, but never in huge leaps like that. That and modem -> DSL was also huge, but of course not as huge as getting Internet in the first place.

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    5. Re:The magic is dead. by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      Not to mention computers went from block graphics, to being able to show a photo quality image, to full video. The jump from full video to VR just doesn't seem to be as special by comparison.

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    6. Re:The magic is dead. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Rose colored glasses. Before the internet virus were transferred by floppys. All the people with kids would need their 'at home' computers constantly cleaned.

      We made a rule that anybody with a company computer was not to let their kids use it, buy them their own, then deal with it yourself.

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    7. Re:The magic is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Rose colored glasses. Before the internet virus were transferred by floppys.

      And the consequences were far less serious. Before the internet, viruses would at worst trash the local machine, but the vast majority only did something amusing or stupid.

      Today, viruses steal your banking passwords and encrypt your data for ransom.

  6. Combine those two causes by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

    1. civil-society organizations and attention-seeking scholars
    2. news organizations without sufficient resources to "dig deep"

    Combine those two, and you get "attention-seeking news organizations".

    "If it bleeds, it leads." The news organizations are always attention-seeking, and simplified, salacious news gets the most attention, even if it is incorrect.

  7. Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the '80s the right was pro-science and technology, and the left (or at least the stereotype of the left) was anti-technology.

    Since the Reagan era, though the right has completely swung around and is now anti-science, while the left has only weakly shifted over and embraced science.

    1. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nonsense.

      Both left and right have anti-science wings, both basically religious in nature. They are both slowly losing power as reality is observed by real world humans.

      I'd like to see actual deathmatches between bible thumpers and nature hippies, that would be cool.

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    2. Re:Left and right by Megol · · Score: 1

      It's like you just made that up. Oh you did!

    3. Re:Left and right by thegreatbob · · Score: 0

      Worse, I'm pretty sure the AC's just regurgitating something they found on the ground...

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    4. Re:Left and right by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I see little evidence that science is regaining ground. There has been far too concerted an effort in the last ten to fifteen years to demonize scientists, to make them out to be profiteering frauds. In the end reality will very much bring back the pro-science movement, but for now, even on Slashdot, the attitude on everything from climate change to basic research is incredibly negative.

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    5. Re:Left and right by CAOgdin · · Score: 1

      Glad you used AC to post, because you assertions are utterly false. Silicon Valley is a hot-bed of people on the left, and it's been that way since the 1960's. Who do you think actually INVENTED most of the basis for new technology. Sure most of it was based on a Brit (think of Alan Turing), but the capital was in San Francisco, and most of those capitalists are (and were) left-wing thinkers, interested in making money by delivering stupendous new products/services. It's only LATER that Wall Street, and their greed, on into the act, and they are decidedly Republican, virtually to a man (of course, no women allowed).

      I've been LIVING this stuff since 1961 (started on a vacuum-tube based RCA 301!) and I've watched it. What I can't abide is your attributions that are informed by mere ignorance. And, no, I don't post anonymously, because I'm confident of my facts.

    6. Re:Left and right by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      In the '80s the right was pro-science and technology, and the left (or at least the stereotype of the left) was anti-technology.

      Since the Reagan era, though the right has completely swung around and is now anti-science, while the left has only weakly shifted over and embraced science.

      I don't see any such change, unless you're counting skepticism on the right about the hard-to-pin-down effect of carbon on weather, even when we observe warming (are we all going to die of thirst, or are we going to drown?) I don't hear much from creationists these days either.

      Meanwhile the left hates technology just as much as it did in the Seventies, and has even started hacking away against pure research itself, as evidenced by their crusade against astronomy - a discipline whose vested interest is in a totally clean environment - first in Arizona, and more recently in Hawaii. If Trump accomplishes just one thing, let him find a way of locking these little weasels out of the court system so we can get human progress moving again.

    7. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Nazis _were_ leftist. Shockley was a Nazi. You are right.

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    8. Re:Left and right by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The problem being is that the effects of CO2 aren't that hard to pin down. The skepticism is basically fake, fueled by some of the wealthiest companies and individuals on the planet, even as they themselves prepare for the low-carbon future.

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    9. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The _actual_ scientists studying climate change will win in the end. The ones that want to shutdown modern society (nature hippies) will continue to be ignored, the world will not end. Climate models/datasets being advanced today are better than those being advanced 15 years ago. The most extreme of which have since been laughed out of the room (and edited out of the history by those who used to be claiming them as true).

      Science is data driven. Lies can only be maintained for so long without just blowing off science and going full 'religious nuts' like creationists.

      That said there is a large body of non data driven 'sciencish' work. Almost all sociology, psychology etc. That just needs to be ignored as the theology it is. The humanities attempts to wrap themselves in 'science' are a threat to it. But just like phrenology, it too will pass into 'bad joke' status.

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    10. Re:Left and right by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      Much longer than fifteen years. The romantic era is a rejection of the cold emotionless age of enlightenment. It takes generations before people begin to see the effects.
      'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism

    11. Re:Left and right by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Having taken a college-level psychology course (which of course makes me an expert in the field!) I can tell you that psychology isn't necessarily as soft as you think, and while there are certainly holdover schools of psychology that are based on partial or total rubbish, when you start talking about cognitive psychology and behaviorism, these are just as hard a science as physics or geology, to the point that I got the strong impression that my instructor viewed many of the other schools pretty dimly as being as much wishy-washy metaphysics as anything else. Psychology is an awfully big field, so claiming most of it is rubbish is deeply unfair.

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    12. Re:Left and right by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Silicon Valley is a hot-bed of people on the left, and it's been that way since the 1960's.

      Unfortunately, money has a way of turning liberals into conservatives. The legal system is positively littered with ambulance chasers who became lawyers to fight the system from within.

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    13. Re: Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazis vilified, imprisoned, and executed leftists: unionists, communists, "modern" artists, etc. The Left was the "disease", and the Nazis promised the cure. Stop spreading ignorant, right wing bullshit.

    14. Re:Left and right by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I don't see any such change, unless you're counting skepticism on the right about the hard-to-pin-down effect of carbon on weather, even when we observe warming (are we all going to die of thirst, or are we going to drown?)

      Yes, that is the effect of CO2 on weather. We are going to die of thirst, or drown. That's why they call it a chaotic system.

      Meanwhile the left hates technology just as much as it did in the Seventies, and has even started hacking away against pure research itself, as evidenced by their crusade against astronomy - a discipline whose vested interest is in a totally clean environment - first in Arizona, and more recently in Hawaii.

      I can't figure out WTF you're talking about in AZ, in fact it looks like astronomers there are winning victories to fight light pollution. The thing in HI is not left vs. science. To the extent that any of the people involved are lefties (which sure, some of them are) they have been whipped into a froth by right-wing politicians. And the battle ties into a fight for the land which the Hawaiian natives, frankly, have not given up fighting. Remember, it's not like they simply chose to join an empire.

      If Trump accomplishes just one thing, let him find a way of locking these little weasels out of the court system so we can get human progress moving again.

      Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it, and if Trump makes it harder for people to fight larger entities in the courts, you are not going to enjoy the consequences. No one who will has time to post on Slashdot. They are all off fucking a Russian model or something.

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    15. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you know that facts and whether or not someone posts anonymously are unrelated.

    16. Re:Left and right by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "I can't figure out WTF you're talking about in AZ, in fact it looks like astronomers there are winning victories to fight light pollution. The thing in HI is not left vs. science. To the extent that any of the people involved are lefties (which sure, some of them are) they have been whipped into a froth by right-wing politicians. And the battle ties into a fight for the land which the Hawaiian natives, frankly, have not given up fighting. Remember, it's not like they simply chose to join an empire."

      You may not have been in Arizona long enough to have known what I was talking about, but protesters working for an outfit called Deep Green Resistance spent years filing fatuous lawsuits against the building of several large telescopes on Mt. Graham in the southeastern part of the state. The first excuse they used was critical habitat for red squirrels living on the mountain. When that fell flat, red squirrels being both common and not endangered by this particular type of human activity, Deep Green switched its attack to a claim that the site was sacred to the San Carlos Apache, a tribe which lives nowhere near the mountain and never evinced particular interest in it. During Clinton's second term construction was finally accomplished, years late and far over budget. That's the Greens' whole strategy - keep throwing groundless legal objections at the wall until even if nothing sticks, the target project becomes too expensive to finish. One argument that the Greens actually used in Arizona was "Build in Hawaii instead, because it's an even better site for astronomy!"

      Having been unsuccessful in Arizona, Deep Green moved its attack to Hawaii, where they have been delaying the Thirty Meter Telescope by whipping up a native rights controversy. That is what is wending its way through the court system now.

      This is Deep Green's manifesto against astronomy: https://dgrnewsservice.org/civ...
      The author of this piece, Will Falk, has been all over Mauna Kea, egging on the protesters.

    17. Re:Left and right by khr · · Score: 1

      Both left and right have anti-science wings, both basically religious in nature. They are both slowly losing power as reality is observed by real world humans.

      They might be losing numbers in terms of people and members, but they're gaining tremendous power these days.

    18. Re:Left and right by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      So you really think that these particular people are liberals first, and not wackos first?

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    19. Re: Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazis did all that to anyone who didn't agree with them, even people who were further to the left than they were. Nazism is/was on the left on economic issues but waaay over on the right on social issues. That's not impossible, or even unusual.

    20. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I said 'almost all' you said 'most'.

      Do you have any evidence either isn't true? Sure their are a few people in any field that respect scientific method. But are they more than 1-5% in the soft sciences? How many don't abuse statistics? How many even have enough math to not abuse statistics through ignorance?

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    21. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike the emotional blather that various fascists and socialists will consider to reply, I shall simply correct your statement.

      The classification of political philosophy as "left, center and right" was created by the European tenured professors as they debated how to "solve" capitalism in the light of the roaring 20's in the USA. When they eventually labeled their ideas in other terms, "left" became communism, "center" became socialism, and "right" became fascism. If you attempt to identify other political philosophies based on interpolation and extrapolation of those, dictatorships are center-right, oligarchies are center-left, the USA was founded so far to the right of fascism that all three of them blur together compared to the concept of personal liberty, and libertarian theory (when you find someone thinking beyond 'legalize every drug') is even further to the right.

    22. Re: Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please enlighten me how the Nazis were "to the Left" on economic issues. If by "Left" you mean "state controlled", well, military dictatorships and fascism are pretty much the definition of "Right", and they are state controlled. I don't think the majority of people would agree on your categorization of their economy.

    23. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So you really think that these particular people are liberals first, and not wackos first?

      What's the difference?

    24. Re:Left and right by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      My experience from my coursework was that the cited studies seemed to me to be pretty rigorous. There was an entire section dedicated to what might have been titled "junk science", though as I recall the authors of the textbook used a somewhat more diplomatic term. In there were all kinds of commonly-held disorders like pre-menstrual syndrome, seasonal affective disorder in the like where research suggests that while the disorders may be real, they in fact effect a far smaller group of people than earlier studies had claimed. In other words, even in psychology it sure looks to me like there is at least some psychologists who follow valid methodological principles.

      The other thing to remember is that "psychology" is a pretty damned broad term, and that in a lot of cases other professions like psychoanalysts, psychiatrists, counselors and the like often get lumped in, and in some cases these other groups publish in journals of varying degrees of quality. That's not to say that some of these people don't adhere to pretty strong methodologies, but it does tend to be a bit of a wild west in some cases. But when you're talking about cognitive psychology and other similar branches, there's a lot of overlap there that pulls in neurological experts, behavioral experts and the like who sit within the harder edges of the psychology field. It most certainly isn't all just kooky neo-Freudians.

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    25. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      'Fascism' didn't exist in the 20s. The term was coined by Mussolini. His government was socialist plus nationalist.

      The oft quoted statement by Mussolini about corporations neglects to mention the only corporations in fascist Italy were government sponsored ones, non-profit NGOs in modern parlance.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    26. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Which are you?

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    27. Re:Left and right by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Which are you?

      I am a dictionary-definition liberal.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    28. Re: Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were environmentalists. Hitler was a vegetarian and anti smoking.

    29. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Which definition? Certainly not: "Pro liberty'.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    30. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You underestimate people stupidity
      There is a lot of people that do not know how to interpret data, don't want to interpret data and when confronted with the undeniable will still make all kind of excuses even bizarre, and the worst things get the more they hold to their own legends
      bad weather is there to chastise people for their sins and god put the dinosaurs bones in the ground to test our faith

    31. Re:Left and right by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Which definition?

      I am opposed to government meddling in what I do in my house, but I am in favor of government meddling in everything that business does. You know, the definition. Conservative, of course, is the opposite. Populists want to control both. Anarchists want to control neither. According to the libertarians I am an upper-left centrist (hey, they have a snazzy test) but I personally think I'm more left than they think I am, and less upwards.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    32. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Between the 1980s and about 2010 the 'bible thumpers' just owned the Rs structure in many states. They _are_ dumb as rocks, but they show up. 'Showing up' is 50% of anything.

      The 'nature hippies' never controlled the Ds when the Ds were having a winning year. They don't now either. Sure they get a nominee, once in while, but that nominee is unelectable. They don't show up consistently. Thank dog for all the drugs they are on.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    33. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      irrelevant, NOWHERE in the US is a hotbed of people on the left, there IS no left in the US, theres just slightly less right

    34. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense.

      Both left and right have anti-science wings, both basically religious in nature. They are both slowly losing power as reality is observed by real world humans.

      I'd like to see actual deathmatches between bible thumpers and nature hippies, that would be cool.

      The pro-science wings are also religious in nature.

    35. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've been dealing with clowns the IFS psychology program. It's based on a very self-congratulatory rewrite of Freud's old models of different parts of the mind, and relabeling all of Freud's family sexuality work. But see, it's not really Freud, because it *identifies* as being different!!! The focus on what you "identify" as, in violation of actual evidence, makes it very popular among the gender-confused and those who "identify" as being gifted in fields they know nothing about, or "identify" as being successful when they haven't done any of the work. I've been running into their students lately in the field. They train "psychotherapists" and "counselors", who don't usually require any license or certification, you pass the courses even if you don't show up for class, their own instructors claim that training proves nothing about competence, and they're producing the most dangerous bunch of underqualified bozos claiming expertise that I've seen in any field, including the "hollistic medicine" and "psychic surgeons".

      I'm dealing with one of their "members" who've completed no graded coursework in psychology, anywhere. They have no clinical training whatsoever, and no hands-on experience other than their own practice. But hey, they make their clients "feel good about themselves", and that's the important thing for an ADHD trainer, right? Not getting a job, not taking care of family or medical problems, but feeling "empowered"!!! That's how you measure success, right? The results have been destruction, and I'm trying to get a friend away from them to a competent therapists. It's not easy: real psychologists don't like to go head to head with frauds, but it's pretty clear that they've been extremely destructive to my friend's life, family, and career.

      The IFS is, frankly, as bad as the Scientologists. They're based on an incompetent and self-serving rewrite of older work, and an addiction to their own self-approval.

    36. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I hate to use a religious test, but 'By their fruits shall you judge them' is pragmatic.

      Science produces results, religion, not so much. Find me a religion that says: 'go with what works, make sure you aren't fooling yourself.'

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    37. Re:Left and right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps it has something to do with the other Slashdot article highlighting that many experiments are getting published, but peers are not able to duplicate the results. At the moment, "Science" has a creditability problem in that it appears to lack internal consistency. Science would be much better off if information that was speculative in nature was strongly distinguished from information that was generally indisputable. Instead, we have journalists taking snippets of publications and making outlandish "breaking news about the latest discovery" when the publication didn't truly support that conclusion in the first place. I suppose this falls into the realm of fake news, but it seems like every other year some new scientific breakthrough gets contradicted by "new findings". You need to look no further than health news about diet and heart health. The latest science has done a near 180 degree turn on things like whether fat is good, or whether you should eat primarily carbs, etc. When the public only pays half-attention to such issues and hears only what makes it into the headline news, these kind of things make scientists look like either idiots or snake-oil salesmen. At that point, views such as anti-evolution, anti-climate-change, anti-vaccination, and anti-the-earth-is-round begin to look creditable since it will only be another year or two before we find that the evolutionists, vaccinationists, climate-changers, and round-earthers will be proven wrong by a late breaking discovery.

    38. Re:Left and right by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Some will go/remain fully 'religious nuts' like creationists/commune dwellers. No disputing that.

      Outside small enclaves of similarly minded nuts, how much influence do you think creationists/marxists have?

      The worst they can do it influence things like grade school textbooks (by fanatical persistence). Which is, in fact, good bullshit detection training for growing kids. If a kid can't spot a commie/creationist by now, (s)he is likely too dumb to matter anyhow. The world will continue to need ditch diggers.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  8. Shift from offering products to exploiting users by sinij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This can be easily explained by a corporate shift from offering innovative products that fulfill consumer needs to offering products that exploit consumers in innovative ways. 20 years ago what we consider mundane "information sharing" would cause congressional hearings and indictments of CEOs.

    80 and 90s we get a great deal of consumer electronics and computing products that were sold on merits. Late 2000s and into 2010s we have dominance of software that spies and manipulates user behavior for profit. Mid 2010s and we started to see "spies and manipulates" getting pushed into hardware under ruse of IoT.

    Negative tone is a result of "You can't fool everyone all the time" playing out.

  9. I'll posit a third by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    ...companies pushing their "revolutionary" products when, in fact, they are pretty boring and run of the mill ( when not flat out crap, which is the norm ). That kind of bombastic nonsense works for a while, but eventually folks see through the bullshit so when any truly impressive product does get released, it's viewed through somewhat jaded lenses.

    "Fool me once" and all that jazz.

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    Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
  10. Farewell to yesterday's tomorrow by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    It's when we're 'there,' when we're in the future, that we can look back ...

    But we're no more "in the future" now than we were yesterday, or the year before.

    We've always lived in yesterday's tomorrow.

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    http://www.geoffreylandis.com
  11. Or a third option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In the 80s and 90s every new piece of tech wasn't a commercialized POS that was designed first and foremost to collect your personal information. The idea of the thing was to do something FOR you, not TO you.

  12. Re:Here's a recent positive example by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

    So you're saying it's a holo promise?

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    Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
  13. Not scrappy underdog, now a juggernaut by orin · · Score: 1

    The tech industry has gone from scrappy underdog to juggernaut with 4 of the 5 biggest companies by market cap being tech companies. Unsurprisingly people's attitudes have changed, so the coverage has changed.

  14. OR, more likely by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

    Or more likely the media has found that producing click bait article gets more readers and therefore more advertising revenue. The other notable thing is that technology is now more likely to be covered by a reporter who write about technology rather than an engineer who also wrote. One can produce in-depth analysis, test suites and a comparison between products, the other can rewrite the manufacturers information sheet and claim it as their own. Technology writers have become the McDonalds of reporting, cheap, quick, bland, low value.

  15. "painting" a threatening picture of technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about just calling it "reporting"? As witnessed on this site, the ongoing use of technology to abuse people is very much a fact for the last 20 years or so. And it is accelerating exponentially.

  16. A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Right now the lead article on Ars Technica is a highly positive review of the current state of VASIMR rocket engine technology: https://arstechnica.com/scienc...

    But the author seems to be a frustrated SJW who couldn't resist a totally irrelevant slam at current US immigration policy, even though nobody has ever accused VASIMR developer Franklin Chang-Díaz of having sneaked across the border on foot.

    1. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      But the author seems to be a frustrated SJW who couldn't resist a totally irrelevant slam at current US immigration policy, even though nobody has ever accused VASIMR developer Franklin Chang-DÃaz of having sneaked across the border on foot.

      If such things make you angry, perhaps you should consider what about them puts you on the defensive.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by MrVictor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like he is just miffed that "journalists" are editorializing science and technology articles. This is a prime example of the trend TFA is talking about.

    3. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did he say it made him angry? Are you projecting? He pointed out something he observed. I saw no anger in there.

    4. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If such things make you angry

      If complaints about off-topic and pointless SJW snark bother you, perhaps you should consider what compels you to defend such irrational behavior in others.

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    5. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    6. Re:A lot of negativism is totally gratuitous by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If complaints about off-topic and pointless SJW snark bother you, perhaps you should consider what compels you to defend such irrational behavior in others.

      Show me on the picture where the immigrant touched you.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  17. Problem is the reporters by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Too much if it bleeds it leads, not enough actual comprehension of what they are writing about.

    If you don't understand what's going on someone saying "It breaks matter down at a basic level and coverts it to energy" Is scary. If someone tells you "Invisible rays are passing through you and they can cause cellular mutations and cancers" it's scary. Then there is the basic competition between the people that do things and the people that tell you how to think about them.

  18. Is it TECH reporting or WALLED GARDEN reporting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but are "tech" stories about technology, or walled gardens? facebook and elections, russians and hacking, apple and walled gardens, google and walled gardens, microsoft and spyware, and so on - not about "tech" really - is the media reporting negatively on tech itself or what people do with tech?

  19. Here's the answer by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    We've almost reached the limits of physics and there's basically no viable competition because modern technologies require capex in an order of billions of dollars. What's there to marvel at or be happy about when, for instance, we've had a stagnation in the x86 CPU market since the introduction of Sandy Bridge (don't remind me of Ryzen: AMD has just reached IPC parity with two years old Intel CPUs)? Also GPUs don't grow as fast as they used to in the past, and even then in the past GPUs required passive cooling while certain modern GPUs have three slots cooling solutions with over 200 watts of power dissipation and have billions of transistors (NVIDIA Pascal Titan X has 12 billion transistors working at roughly 1500MHz).

    However in my opinion it's astonishing what we've reached so far: certain modern computer games are just breathtakingly beautiful while not being too far off from being photo realistic: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Battlefield 1, The Division, Quantum Break and others. Recently, I just gave up on playing in The Division for two hours and just roamed NYC and enjoyed the scenery.

    Just look at this and compare to this.

    1. Re:Here's the answer by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      We've almost reached the limits of physics

      So you mean I can have a computer that is approaching the limits ofLandauer's principle. Where does one find these mythical machines as I would love one that has the computational power of my desktop yet runs for years off of a single AA battery.

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      Time to offend someone
    2. Re:Here's the answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be due to the influx of MBAs and Wall St influence into tech the last... 20 yrs.

      Why the requirement for more capex? because tech is currently in MBA mode--scale up--it's a proven way to make real, i.e. insanely amounts of, cash (for the few of course).

      Funny how MSM is touting all business folks as geniuses nowadays.

    3. Re:Here's the answer by sinij · · Score: 1

      I might agree that we reached diminishing return within existing computing silicon transistor technology. However, we have not reached limits of physics. Limits will be along Computronium lines, and clearly, we are nowhere near that.
      Work on 3D layouts, 10nm die, quantum computing are all very promising. Don't confuse with lack of competition allowing Intel to stop (or likely hoard) innovation with actual stagnation. Once AMD gets back into the game, we will see return of 90s-era progress.

    4. Re:Here's the answer by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      I think you win. Sadly.
      It was a great lot of fun while it lasted.

    5. Re:Here's the answer by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      PS, while a cool shot, I don't think that's an accurate depiction of a planetary ring.

  20. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by CAOgdin · · Score: 2

    Absolute agreement. Every since the Neanderthals on Wall Street started dictating policy to Fortune 500's (and small firms let it trickle down to them), we've been at a growing war with the 1%. Latest news says there are SIX people who have more wealth than the bottom 50% of population of the WORLD! Their interests are served first. And, yes, Marx predicted that. Now, it's our job to get vocal, get active, and take our Democracy back, including the fundamental Constitutional right to privacy that has been so eroded by lawyers (and politicians, who are mostly made up of the lawyer class) in the past decades. And, not just in the U S of A, but throughout the world. It's pitchforks time, folks, and time to bring the corrupt interests (Exxon, GE, Microsoft, and thousands of others, and their kin in other countries) to heel. We, the masses, need to hone our skills at defeating their self-serving game.

    Read George Lakott's take: https://twitter.com/georgelako...
    and https://georgelakoff.com/2011/...

  21. Loaded statement follows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "there has been a significant increase in the number of civil-society organizations and attention-seeking scholars focused on painting a threatening picture of technology,"

    Quite right!

    Disclaimer: I am the inventor of the shark catapult.

  22. Buries the lede. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In general, the ITIF found that in the 1980s and 1990s, coverage of technology was largely positive, but this changed from the mid-1990s to 2013, when more negative reports covering the downside of technology, its failure to live up to its promises, and potential ill effects, started to appear. The ITIF attributes this shift to two main causes, the first being that "there has been a significant increase in the number of civil-society organizations and attention-seeking scholars focused on painting a threatening picture of technology," and second, and perhaps most pertinent, "news organizations are under increased financial pressure, and as a result, reporters may have less time and fewer resources to dig deep into technology issues."

    (emphasis added) TFA doesn't bother to ask whether the negative coverage is actually accurate.

    Probably too much to ask from a vapid hit-piece on journalism, scholars and people who dare to care about civil society.

  23. Tech is ordinary now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tech is not part of an exciting new future any more. It's here, and it's .... boring.

  24. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Utter nonsense. Since the dawn of time customers have forked over the money only if they wanted the product more than the money. No amount of evil geniuses in or evil corporations can change that. I once heard your argument in the context of the uselessness of swizzle sticks - drink stirrers. The savings just on not having to wash spoons makes swizzle sticks a bargain, whether in a home bar or a nightclub. The point is that products are produced to make profit. That can only happen if the value to the customer - in the customer's eyes - is there. Who are you to suggest the customers are duped into buying what they buy?

  25. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Now, it's our job to get vocal, get active, and take our Democracy back,

    It has never been a Democracy. It was always an Oligarchy. The rich white men (mostly slaveowners) who were running the country wanted to keep running the country, and wanted to get the Monarchy out of it. But they didn't want every plebe to have a voice, that would be madness!

    It's our job to get vocal, get active, and get Democracy. Abolish the electoral college, as well as the practice of denying felons the vote. That only creates more incentive to find those who are politically inconvenient guilty of a felony.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  26. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1 person has more wealth than the bottom 50% because the bottom 50% have negative or zero wealth. I don't think you are giving an accurate picture.

    I have more wealth than ~50% of the world just because I have a positive net worth. Once you start moving past people with NO worth you quickly surpass the "top 6" type metric.

    Your stats are painting a misleading picture at best and maliciously crafted at worst.

    The connotation is that something like the top 20 should be more wealthy than 99% but in reality the top 20 would still only be at 50%. The inconvenient reality for your narrative is that there are millions of millionaires. In fact the "top 1%" is 3+ million people in just the USA and 60+ million people worldwide. Sure there are "conspiracies" like Hillary trying to rig the election and primaries but the fact of the matter is that the wealthy are not "just 6 people". Its millions upon millions of people who do not even close to agree with one another.

  27. The media. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Media has never been so consolidated or ______. Think about it.

  28. Tech reporting is aimed at imbeciles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clickbait subject, but hear me out.

    Q - How is the internet funded?
    A - Advertising

    Q - How are internet adverts sold?
    A - Money is paid by the advertiser for every click

    Q - How can websites get people to click on their adverts?
    A - Target the articles and adverts at the correct demographics

    Q - What demographic clicks on internet adverts?
    A - Stupid people

  29. Fear sells by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    A third reason is that as time has progressed, more content has been pushed only on the internet, not through print media. For web pages to earn their keep they have to attract attention - clicks. We know that fear is a great motivator and with the more "stuff" that people have, the greater their fear of losing it. It also seems likely that since 2001, the western world has been on a fear-driven agenda, which drives out good news.

    So simply to compete, websites will promote FUD, warnings, threats. And the race to the bottom goes on with more shrill headlines and reports and more and more FAKE NEWS.

    A possible fourth reason is that pre-2000, most tech reporting was intended for technically literate individuals. Ones who implicitly recognised dangers and didn't need them spelled out. But since "tech" has become mainstream, there are far more clueless idiots trying to do stupid things with technology. Maybe the negative articles simply reflect the (far) lower levels of competence among the audience for technology content?

    --
    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  30. What I learned from Hollywood Bitchslap by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Negative reviews are more fun to read than the positive ones.....

    --
    love is just extroverted narcissism
  31. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by sinij · · Score: 1

    Go shopping for a TV - see if you can easily find one that doesn't spy on you. Go shop for a mobile phone, I don't think you could find one that doesn't spy on you. Try to sign up for an online social group or communication tool, good luck finding one that doesn't stalk you across internet and sells your information to the highest bidder. Now tell me that ANY of this is driven by consumer demand.

  32. Hey guess what else this is true of - everything by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    was largely positive, but this changed from the mid-1990s to 2013,

    The thing to understand is, this is not limited to tech. There has been an assault for a decade or two now on the public being happy in any way. You are meant to be riled up and agitated.... to what end I cannot say. But the end effect is not good, you can tell this is bleeding into everyone's real lives, affecting relationships and general behavior.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  33. Re:Here's a recent positive example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Au contraire, holo is from the Latin for "whole".

  34. Tech Reporting Is More Negative Now Than Earlier by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

    No it's not. NEWS AT 11!

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    If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
  35. Re:Here's a recent positive example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a holo laugh from that.

  36. Tech is new and new is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tech will not get us back to when America was great! MAGA!

  37. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A couple corollaries might be you get what you pay for and with a smart phone WYSIWYG. Free apps on tiny screens. What's not to like?

  38. negative emotion overload by kiviQr · · Score: 1

    There is an overload with information - to stand out you have to attract consumer. What better way than by using headlines and copy that causes emotions. One of the most powerful ones are negative emotions like anger, fear. That is why we no longer have conversations on merit. Mention Trump or abortion and people's head explode. Now everything is at emotional level - we grow apart every single year!

  39. Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Couldn't it just be that tech isn't as good as it once was? The arrogance of our industry is astonishing to me - "attention-seeking scholars" must be behind it, rather than our products being subpar. Remember when anyone could create content on their computer (iLife, mid-2000's)? Remember when you could layout a 3D product without having to attend a class on CAD programs (Sketchup's early versions, early 2000's)? Remember when you could skip past the anti-piracy warning (VHS, 1990's)? Remember when you could turn on a TV and be watching a show in less than 5 seconds (before digital television)? Remember when a computer crash didn't threaten your life the way a faulty accelerator does now? Remember when your cell phone battery lasted a week? Remember when your watch battery lasted 10 years? I'm not saying there haven't been some wonderful developments in the last 15 years, but there have been some massive steps backward as well.

    People in the tech industry assume that going digital always improves things. Furthermore, media coverage for decades always focused on just the positive aspects of a change. Despite what this post says about negativity in media coverage, none of those very real steps backward I just listed has been covered much by a way-too-tech-friendly media. Compare the focus on Boeing in a plane crash versus the excuse making for Tesla in a car crash. Compare the praise smart phones get for making a phone battery last 24 hours versus the critique of Motorola flip-phones for having a battery that only lasted 3 days. Compare the coverage of laser pointers related to airplanes versus drones related to airplanes. In every one of these cases, the media has been orders of magnitude softer with our industry than they've been with others, and yet this article wants to downplay this as due to "attention-seeking scholars"?

    We need to grow up in our industry. If we're going to make products that people actually count on in life-or-death situations, we need to actually deliver something that will work better, be bulletproof, and deserve the praise it gets.

  40. There's also actually some negative effects! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As this election has shown us, there are significant negative effects of technological change (e.g. the effect on a labor-based, relatively unskilled workforce), so it does make sense that reporting would shift a bit (though admittedly, this aspect of the effects of tech haven't been truly appreciated until now it seems).

  41. Re:Is it TECH reporting or WALLED GARDEN reporting by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
    Yes, they're going for the LCD. Slashdot included.

    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

  42. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    It has never been a Democracy. It was always an Oligarchy. The rich white men (mostly slaveowners) who were running the country wanted to keep running the country, and wanted to get the Monarchy out of it. But they didn't want every plebe to have a voice, that would be madness!

    You can trash the founding fathers of this country all you want, but they instituted a form of government that gave every plebe far more autonomy than ever existed in the past, even giving the plebes the ability to change it or abolish it if necessary.

    It's our job to get vocal, get active, and get Democracy. Abolish the electoral college, as well as the practice of denying felons the vote. That only creates more incentive to find those who are politically inconvenient guilty of a felony.

    Here's a thought experiment for you: Do you suppose Democracy would lead to more laws being passed or fewer laws? If the former, would that lead to more felons, or fewer?

    I agree that former felons ought to have voting rights restored. But I really think they should ALL rights restored, including their 2nd amendment rights.

    --
    Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
  43. Gushing optimisim for anything new by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    I remember that in the past, PC magazine articles etc were nearly always gushing with ridiculously unrealistic positivity about anything new or novel. If every new thing they wrote about actually changed the entire world even half as much as they all claimed it would, we'd all be living like the Jetsons by now.
    I think its acutally a good thing that a little bit of skepticism has crept in since those days.
    That said I'm still amazed by how many tech product reviews apparently feel the need to totally avoid documenting any significant faults with the product being reviewed, even if they are glaringly obvious from other sources. At best its very unprofessional, at worst they've clearly sold out and are not acting in the best interest of the reader.

  44. Things change... by tim620 · · Score: 1

    I agree with the assessment. I also think the advent of social media and smart phones/tablets have added to negative views of technology. Most of us now have a small portable computer (which also makes phone calls) that we can pull out, at a stop light, and check Facebook, etc, etc. So there are real physical dangers in the current era of computing. I'm guessing nobody in the 1980's imagined anything like that while they were on their Commodore 64 and watching Computer Chronicles on PBS.

  45. comp.risks by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 1

    This newsgroup has been around for decades, reporting on the downsides of technology, so it's nothing new.

  46. The no true Socialist fallacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nazi is short for National Socialist. It's amazing how you can spin socialism to be right wing by simply defining it to be so, ignoring all of the actual history.

    You highlight a few groups and ignore that they went after essentially everyone who wasn't a Nazi. They had a paramilitary group from the outset that would physically attack people for speaking against them. If anything, that's most like the current regressive leftist groups like Antifa which wants to "bash the fash" (physically assault) anyone who speaks things they don't agree with. Incidentally, that same regressive left is happy to physically attack even gays or black people who don't fall in line. You know, just like the National Socialists of old did. I bet someday you'll try to spin them as a "right-wing" group, ignoring their history...

    1. Re:The no true Socialist fallacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi is short for National Socialist.

      And the D in DPRK stands for democratic. Doesn't make it so though.

      Nazi policies are what made them socialist, not calling themselves socialist.

  47. Thete is a huge difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Between something 'negative', as in bias, and reporting facts that are not pleasant. Let's be honest: a lot if tech companies these days are engaged in ridiculous amounts of hyperbole, if not flat out lies about their endeavors and their potential, and engage in practices that are so unethical they make the head spin. Something millennials really need to absorb: just because the truth of a situation is uncomfortable does not mean you bury it. You can't change a situation by running away from it or trying to obliterate knowledge of it. Grow up.

  48. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by sound+vision · · Score: 0

    You can trash the founding fathers of this country all you want, but they instituted a form of government that gave every plebe far more autonomy than ever existed in the past, even giving the plebes the ability to change it or abolish it if necessary.

    No. The plebes were not allowed to vote under the Founders' system, only land-owners. And in order to be a land-owner you had to meet quite a few non-monetary requirements as well. They also set up an Electoral College due to logistical considerations (the fastest way to relay information was a courier on horseback) and also to insulate against the possibility of the masses voting in someone totally unqualified. Supposedly, the educated folk in the College would recognize, say, a proto-dictatorial populist strongman, more easily than the general electorate of landowners, and they would serve as a check over the election process. Part of the whole checks and balances thing.

    The system wasn't perfect, and it still isn't. We need to keep what works and change what doesn't. Voting rights have been broadly expanded, because we recognized that is a good thing, and we set out to make it happen. Regarding the Electoral College - the logistical considerations are essentially gone in this information age. They have proven themselves ineffective as a sanity check on the election process by failing to take any action in 2016. Their votes have contradicted the will of the people in several recent elections. Add in an efficiency bonus for streamlining things, and I see zero reason to keep the Electoral College.

  49. It's complete shit by cshark · · Score: 1

    Just take a look at any of the places where we've historically gone for tech journalism. There's very little difference between a publication like Endgadget and the Huffington Post. My complaint is this: for the last two years, tech publications have completely lost their focus on tech in favor of divisive political content. The writers they're hiring are not tech writers. So when you have an article that would normally be a fairly good tech article, by the older standard, it falls on its face because the writer doesn't know what he's talking about, and the editors don't seem to care. {*caugh* Mashable} Even PC Magazine has fallen to political punditry, and nobody, absolutely nobody seems to care.

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  50. Re:Hey guess what else this is true of - everythin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was largely positive, but this changed from the mid-1990s to 2013,

    The thing to understand is, this is not limited to tech. There has been an assault for a decade or two now on the public being happy in any way. You are meant to be riled up and agitated.... to what end I cannot say. But the end effect is not good, you can tell this is bleeding into everyone's real lives, affecting relationships and general behavior.

    Sewing discontent has been a marketing strategy for far longer than the last two decades. Unhappy people are more reliable consumers.

    Tech coverage was positive when tech was the new savior from the un-tech it was intended to replace. Now that tech is mostly replacing itself, the goal is to convince you that the thing you just bought needs an upgrade ASAP.

  51. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/ProScan-PLDED3280A-32-720p-60Hz-D-LED-HDTV/46368139

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  52. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What Constitutional right to privacy are you talking about? I certainly don't remember seeing anything in there about that. Not that there shouldn't be -- we should pass a fucking amendment.

  53. Reality distortion is dead...not magic by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Only now that Steve Jobs is gone that the tech media now has the "courage" to criticize Apple and their products.

  54. If Apple stopped building macs for vegetarians... by sandbagger · · Score: 1

    Who apparently lack the upper body strength to lift a sheet of paper, we'd have more positive things to say about them other than pointing out that their machines have sacrificed every performance characteristic for weight. And that their tower, while it may be the best Mac Mini ever made, is not a substitute for an actual tower.

    Don't blame the messenger.

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    ---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
  55. Even? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    You misspelled 'especially'.

  56. Ageing reporters? by manu0601 · · Score: 0

    Perhaps it is just that reporters are ageing? Remember that tech available when you were born is boring, new tech while you are under 30 is exciting, and new tech when you are older than 30 is scaring.

    1. Re:Ageing reporters? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      available when you were born is boring

      Not really. I'm having quite a bit of fun with my 35 year old atari computer. It can't do crap, but the nerd in me is like - wow I never fully understood how most of this worked when I was a kid, but now I do and it is very clever what those people did with what they had.

  57. A fundamentally flawed study, is what you mean. by gweilo8888 · · Score: 2

    I mean come on, really? They're trying to draw a conclusion from a 27-year period and only sampled a pitiful 250 articles, or just nine articles per year -- and from only three publications at that? What we have here is an analysis of the methodology used to select the incredibly tiny pool of articles surveyed, not anything meaningful relating to the press' coverage of technology as a whole.

  58. Is the ITIF a pro-tech organization? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe more negative reporting could be a move toward accurate reporting, correcting for Pollyanna boosterism in the past.
    Also, tech with immediate and/or obvious risks is a reason not to pursue or develop it. That means that the tech that is adopted may have risks that take time to appear. Before Three Mile Island there were no major accidents or events, and reporting on nuclear energy could truthfully say there has never been a major accident in commercial nuclear energy. Since then there have been 3.
    Current reporting on nuclear energy that acknowledges those accidents is factual and truthful. Does that make it negative?

  59. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by ezdiy · · Score: 1

    > Now tell me that ANY of this is driven by consumer demand.
    Yes, it is. Users don't care about privacy, or, for that matter, any hidden consequences (which is why usury thrives). Breaking the spell of rent seeking behavior now corroding our society is a difficult one. Starts with basic education of the technicalities, as well as financial literacy (many of lessons there extend beyond that of financial field).

    Paranoia as such is only overreaction to false dillema, often with detrimental consequences. Not only needs one to ask "cui bono" and merely be paranoid and patently avoid it - that's only half of the thruth. They need to ask if the hidden trade is worth it - usury can be still useful if the borrowed capital can be reinvested in profitable venture.

    To give an example, stonewalling facebook and whatsapp - the trade is seemingly "give up your privacy, or you'll get socially isolated". But it is a false dillema. Purchase a burner phone number online (~$1), set up the account via Tor, it's a fair trade.

  60. Re:Hey guess what else this is true of - everythin by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    One of my all time favorite Bloom County's: Offensensitivity. That was 35 years ago.

  61. Re:This takes care of that most efficiently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't Windows 10 ignore HOSTS, making your program obsolete?

  62. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

    I see zero reason to keep the Electoral College.

    Because removing it turns the country into an empire ruled from the cities. The EC balances out different cultures. Without it absolutely no concerns of rural Americans would be addressed. As an American living in a rural area, this is not in my interest.

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  64. Khyber spreads that lie here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No Windows 10 doesn't "ignore hosts". That LIE has been spread SPECIFICALLY on /. by a jailbird loon named Khyber whom I corrected on it here https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10245269&cid=53896067/

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  65. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    60 million? More like 750+ million. You *did* say "1%" -- that's 1% of the world population.

    In practice, we shouldn't care if the top 1% is accumulating $1m for every $1 we earn -- so long as our economic situation is getting better. But when we get a $1 raise in the face of $2 worth of rent/mortgage increases...

  66. Re:Hey guess what else this is true of - everythin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Divide and conquer.

  67. Occam's Razor by michael.o.church · · Score: 1

    Tech has become infested by sociopaths and managing nerds is now a second career for people who fail out of Wall Street. So, there are a lot of shitty tech companies and the ethics of the industry have collapsed. It shouldn't surprise anyone that tech reporting is becoming more negative when tech reality has also become a lot more negative

  68. Total B.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Programmers and users have learned this from our Experiences in the last 20 years, so yes, all the reporting tends to be negative:
    - Any enterprise-based application will not be worth half what it costs and will not deliver on 75% of its promises.
    - The more a software application costs, the less usable it tends to be and it has less value to people.
    - Some have put spyware in operating systems and applications, and never completely disclose what is spied on.
    - There has never been an actual need or use for a virus or malware checker. A high school kid can setup 2 or 3 things which work better and have zero cost.
    - How about browers that all follow one spec. How about taking HTML5 out of 'reference implementation' stage and make it formal so the browsers can be made to work the same?
    - The application IS NOT INTUITIVE, and there is no usable documentation. Your support of your software product sucks on all fronts.
    - The internet is used as a means to insulate a company from having to deal with its customers. The only goal is not to spend time on customers or customer support.
    - I watch 'coders' collect code snippets from all over the place and stitch them together to create something. The quality is very poor and these people are not actual programmers by any measure. Please get some developers that know how to write something other than franken-shit.

    The truth is that in software and the related companies, There Is No Good News.
    Windows 10 is a perfect example of something where there is No Good News, but the oligarchs push that shit like its air.

  69. Re:Shift from offering products to exploiting user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because removing it turns the country into an empire ruled from the cities.

    Except it does no such thing.

    I hate to remind you, but Trump is also from a big city - the same big city with a certain street that Hillary was also very cozy with. People bought his message that HIS brand of ruling from the big city are done in the best interests of the rural parts of the country. Doesn't change that it is ruling from a big city.

    The EC was never about balancing big cities with the countryside. Whether one side or the other has more influence depends on mostly each side's economy. Back in the Bad Old Days both city and country are not too far apart economically, so there wasn't a huge feeling that the cities are oppressing the country.

    But industrialization happened, and the north overtook the south. The Civil War is really all the evidence you need that the EC doesn't balance rural and urban interests. You guys had to fight a war to settle a matter that other nations could do without.

    As the power of cities grew, so did their influence on government. Queue the rise of Progressivism. Even conservatives trying to combat this are relying on rich folks (read: people who rely on big cities to make money) for funding if not be their representative

    Economic reality doesn't care for your political leanings. Cities make money. Whether you're left or right, authoritarian or libertarian, money talks. Cities making more money and thus gaining more influence is as old as Gilgamesh.

    What keeps rural relevant (without resorting to torches and pitchforks) is that while they're behind, the rural parts of America still make a non-trivial amount of money, even when most factory jobs aren't there anymore. Knowing how to use that rural money to represent yourself is how to keep the cities from taking over. Not by relying on a college of elites who may very well be big city boys.

    The EC balances out different cultures.

    No, EC is government picking which cultures are winners and losers.

    Remember when the liberals had power and was pushing their culture on everybody else, it was all terrible and government was out of control? Don't think that it is any less terrible or out of control just because the gun just happens to be pointing in the other direction.

    Without it absolutely no concerns of rural Americans would be addressed.

    I don't see why that's the Federal government's job. Different states have different concerns between their rural and urban populations. State and local governments are there to address your concerns.

    Even if it is about addressing the concerns of rural Americans, the EC still fails, since if your entire state went blue, then the rural Americans in that blue state are left unheard. Vice versa for urban Americans in red states.

    If anything, the EC perpetuates neglecting about half of all Americans. Which I believe plays a big part in the bipartisanship and animosity that has developed. Both sides sees the other as unwilling to listen. Whoever loses this round feels neglected.