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Uber Says Thousands of London Drivers Threatened By English Language Test (reuters.com)
Costas Pitas, writing for Reuters: Tens of thousands of London private hire drivers could lose their licenses due to new English reading and writing requirements, taxi app Uber said on Tuesday at the start of a court battle to halt the plans. San Francisco-based Uber, which allows users to book journeys at the touch of a button on their smartphone, has grown rapidly in recent years but faced bans and protests around the world as regulators play catch-up with technology disrupting traditional operators. Uber launched legal action in August after public body Transport for London (TfL) said that drivers should have to prove their ability to communicate in English, including to a standard of reading and writing which Uber says is too high. "It produces the profoundest of human effects. At one extreme it will lead to the loss of livelihood," Uber's lawyer Thomas de la Mare told the High Court in London. There are over 110,000 private hire drivers in the British capital, according to TfL but around 33,000 would fail to pass their renewal test due to the new language hurdle, de la Mare told the court, citing a calculation of data provided by TfL.
It seems just basic common sense to require people that need to deal with the public, including in a safety context, to actually be able to converse in the national language.
......and that's Uber. They don't give a flying fuck about drivers.
. . . but as an initial point, what's wrong with requiring drivers in ENGLAND to show mastery of ENGLISH ??
But secondly, that's actually a minor hurdle, compared to the "knowledge" required to pass the legendarily hard London Cab Drive License Test.
Specifically:
To achieve the required standard to be licensed as an “All London” taxi driver you will need a thorough knowledge, primarily, of the area within a six-mile radius of Charing Cross. You will need to know: all the streets; housing estates; parks and open spaces; government offices and departments; financial and commercial centres; diplomatic premises; town halls; registry offices; hospitals; places of worship; sports stadiums and leisure centres; airline offices; stations; hotels; clubs; theatres; cinemas; museums; art galleries; schools; colleges and universities; police stations and headquarters buildings; civil, criminal and coroner’s courts; prisons; and places of interest to tourists. In fact, anywhere a taxi passenger might ask to be taken.
Not sure it's necessary, British road signs are generally (with a small number of easily memorable exceptions) pictographic. For example, the sign meaning "Road works ahead" is symbolized by a man opening an umbrella.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
The European/Worldwide language for non-natives is called EFL.
It's a subset of English but would probably get them by in Britain, and probably get them through an English test.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
Its a matter of public safety that I can clearly communicate with the driver. If I speak English I need to have the driver speak English, and if I am in an English speaking country I am going to statistically speak English. If the driver does not have the basic skills for the country they are working in the should be forced to get these very basic skills and if they lose the job they have for not having them then that is simply the free market at work!
Well, as long as they can read the road signs. I guess communicating with the passenger or reading road names isn't important...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
I'd say there are at least some times when a certain amount of human "knowledge" beats the magic app box.
I agree that drivers who use real time traffic data are likely to do a better job, but having a basic understanding of the entire city's street layout without being beholden to a GPS device is a really valuable skill for a driver. The tech can certainly augment human knowledge by providing dynamically changing information they couldn't otherwise know, but it's an inferior substitute for a driver who instantly knows several viable routes to get where they're going.
Does it apply to self driving cars? If yes "OK Google" needs to step up.
I live in Las Vegas, NV. The roads are plagued with a sea of traffic cones. Google maps doesnt account for that unless there is an accident or the road is completely closed. I've been driving service work around Las Vegas since I was 15. After 15 years of driving this city daily. Google maps can not get you from one end to the other faster than I can. I have guys I work with call me and ask whats the fastest way to get from point A to point B. Human Knowledge beats shitty "AI" Algorithms all day. Also I can do it without siphoning your personal information along the way..
I once got into a taxi at an airport in Chicago. Before we set off the driver pointed at the meter talking in thick Pidgin English that I could barely understand. The only word I could pick out was "meter." I just nodded politely and said yes because I wanted to get to my hotel for a meeting. When I got to the hotel he started wrangling with me to about paying more than was on the meter, apparently he had turned it off at some stage of the journey for some unfathomable reason. He got really belligerent about it too. The hotel was reimbursing me for the trip and after about five minutes of him, the hotel concierge and me trying to discuss it I just asked the manager to reimburse him what he wanted because I hadn't a clue what was going on and it was only another $20 or so.
I know that some people like apps like Uber because they minimize human communication, but it's still a vital skill. As long as you're not asking drivers to write a book report on Ulysses by Joyce, expecting them to communicate clearly in the local language is not too much to ask for.
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...still need subtitles and a dictionary to fully understand a Guy Ritchie movie.
On the other hand... the B1 level which is required is the equivalent of "GCE AS level / lower grade A-level" which is the equivalent of a 13th-grade exam.
Which about 55% of UK students don't take.
Meaning that 55% of UK citizens, raised and educated in UK, don't qualify.
Or that they would have to fork up 200 pounds to take (and pass) an "expected for university admission" level of knowledge of English.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
An English language test? What a stupid idea! If you give in now, next they will demand all drivers to know how to drive cars. Will demand all drivers to know names of neighborhoods and streets too. We. must. put. a. stop. to. government. overreach.
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Obama increased the checks for issuing visas. He didn't retroactively invalidate ones that were already issued.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Mainstream American beers are served ridiculously cold to hide the fact that they don't actually taste of anything.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
We had this thing called an election because we wanted someone else making the rules.
Actually, both you and Trump are delusional. The president doesn't make the rules. Congress does - that's why it's known as the legislative branch - they make the legislation. The executive branch is in charge of implementation. The judiciary is there to make sure the other two don't f*ck up and pretend they are a law unto themselves and can make shit up as they go along or rule by edict, rather than having to follow the law of the land, including the constitution.
Your education system is broken when it takes foreigners to explain to you how your country works.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.