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California Government On the Dangers of Cellphones (cbslocal.com)
mi quotes a report from CBS Local: After keeping it hidden for years, California's Department of Public Health has released a draft document outlining health officials' concerns about cellphone radiation exposure. The previously unpublished document was released this week after a judge indicated she would order the documents be disclosed. Health officials' overall recommendation is to "increase the distance between you and your phone" by using a headset, the speaker phone function and text messaging. Health officials recommend not sleeping near your phone and not carry it in your pocket or directly on your body, unless it is off. The fact sheet also states that "EMFs can pass deeper into a child's brain than and adult's" so suggests parents limit their child's cellphone use to texting, important call and emergencies.
If that's the case, then the entire human race needs to move to the bottom of salt mines, because the amount of radiation being produced by the sun ought to fry our brains by the time we're six months old.
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How many times are we going to go through the whole cellphone radiation thing?
Recently there was a story here about a room that can charge any device that enters into it. I cannot wait to see the health issues that arise from that.
I'm so confused....
That said, RF is dangerous depending on signal strength and exposure time. I don't, out of long time habits instilled in the Military, keep a cell phone by my head. I use headphones. Can the body tolerate the cell phones? Probably, but it's kind of like eating bacon. It tastes really good but in large quantities is not very healthy. Everything in moderation was coined quite wisely.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
That may be what a few 'health officials' think but I have it on the authority of actual Slashdotters that cell phones are perfectly safe because radiation and the Sun and the Earth and stuff.
You understand that as long there has been life on this planet, it has been bathed in EM radiation, right?
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Protecting rats from cancer since 2007.
Have gnu, will travel.
... tablets on or about the body, using WiFi, which produces the exact amount of _____. (Hint: EMF)
Health officials recommend not sleeping near your phone and not carry it in your pocket or directly on your body ...
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
This was a draft document someone whipped up that wasn't used because there were no facts to back it up. It wasn't "hidden", it just wasn't used.
Given multiple other studies have already concluded that there actually is no danger from EMR, I seems this must necessarily prove one of:
a) every one of those other studies were wrong or have been corrupted, presumably by "big telco"
or
b) CA are just a bunch of ultra-paranoid wingnuts that want to live in fear.
So which is it actually?
If that's the case, then the entire human race needs to move to the bottom of salt mines, because the amount of radiation being produced by the sun ought to fry our brains by the time we're six months old.
Hey, the science is settled!
And everybody dies!
See! Radiation! It's Bad!
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
"After keeping it hidden for years, California's Department of Public Health...
It's pretty fucking bad when you can't even make it through the first fucking sentence of TFS before wanting to dial a damn lawyer.
You had one fucking job to do, Department of Health .
This bullshit, coming from the land that gave birth to "known to the state of California to cause" warning labels.
Fucking hell.
(A) Californians are wingnuts, which causes increased fear of nonionizing radiation and desire for more transgender washrooms in schools. -or-
(B) Cellphone radiation intreracts with sea salt to actually harm childrens' brains, causing increased number of transgender children and peanut allergies in California and New York.
But, but, but those Romans used lead pipes! It surely must be better to die of thirst than to swallow homeopathical amounts of lead or radiation!
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
My Siemens Si35i's battery already limits my cellphone to texting, important calls and emergencies. That is, if you can limit your speech to 2 seconds max. Other than that, it's texting. Fortunately, my cellphone provider will allow me to text landlines, converting the text into some robot-voiced automated voice message. Most recipients think you are pulling their leg.
Replacement batteries (whlie they were available) lasted few months, then it was back to the original one again (which had to serve for decades and is now close to retiring without replacement).
You guys have a serious water shortage, but you cant even keep your aqueducts from overflowing.
I'm fairly certain those two things are mutually exclusive.
Cell Phones and Cancer Fact Sheet
"Exposure to ionizing radiation, such as from x-rays, is known to increase the risk of cancer. However, although many studies have examined the potential health effects of non-ionizing radiation from radar, microwave ovens, cell phones, and other sources, there is currently no consistent evidence that non-ionizing radiation increases cancer risk (1).
"The only consistently recognized biological effect of radiofrequency energy is heating. The ability of microwave ovens to heat food is one example of this effect of radiofrequency energy. Radiofrequency exposure from cell phone use does cause heating to the area of the body where a cell phone or other device is held (ear, head, etc.). However, it is not sufficient to measurably increase body temperature, and there are no other clearly established effects on the body from radiofrequency energy."
Sleep easily next to your smartphone tonight.
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Are we getting an early start on this or something?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Sadly I can't find it now, but I definitely remember reading a study that found for radiation exposure, using wired headphones when your phone was transmitting (i.e. during a call) was actually significantly worse than holding the phone to your head, because the headphone wires/headphones themselves directly conducted the EM radiation straight into your ear canals.
A few subtle warnings over the next few years, And finally: A warning label on the side of the phone.
This one will easily get into the tens of trillions of dollars.
Oh we'll try to stop it, but Big Solar will thwart our every attempt!
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
Back in the day I was a shop TV repairman and spend pretty much every work day for 20 years behind a CRT console TV on the bench ... on. Now if you have never been behind a CRT TV, let me tell you there's all kind of crap going on inside that thing. I'm sure the radiation levels I was exposed to was FAR greater than a cell phone. My brain is fine, the rest of my body is fine, my kids (all conceived after my repairman career) are fine. This is pure BS.
You understand that as long there has been life on this planet, it has been bathed in EM radiation, right?
Here I go being responding to your trolling again... Sure, ALL wavelengths, power levels, durations, proximities, and modulation envelopes of EM radiation, from hertz to terahertz, can be assumed to have the same effect, (or lack thereof), on human cell and tissues. NOT.
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The referenced draft document simply states that IF you are concerned about it, here's how to reduce exposure. It doesn't state that RF exposure is dangerous.
In fact the National Cancer Institute says the opposite:
What the study showed: No association was observed between cell phone use and the incidence of glioma, meningioma, or acoustic neuroma, even among people who had been cell phone subscribers for 13 or more years
This is why everybody around me seems to come off like drooling idiots! It's the cell phones! They really ARE cooking the brains! Lets call it a disease, and sell the plebs some medication.... you know for "symptoms"
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
If cellphones were truly harmful to brain function, I think we would have seen the world gradually getting dumber and dumber up to the present day.
Hey, wait a minute ...
Does that mean that you should stand outside uncovered in 110 degree sunny weather for hours at a time every day? How about standing in front of a microwave transmitter at the minimum safe distance for a prolonged time every day? Your point is both irrational and illogical.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Break childrens reliance on cellphones through health fearmongering. Brilliant! Wish I'd thought of it.
Hey, put an antenna on the input of an EF spectrum analyzer. Bring it around to a lot of different locations. Notice there arw spikes and peaks of radiated RF energy. Take note that there is a background of radiated RF energy that is aways present, but also huge peaks of manmade RF energy that is unnatural and a very recent phenomena of the last century.
Get a fucking clue. In the early days of shipborne radar, there were instances of fried sailors who got in the path of the radar antenna.
For gods sake quit being a smug nerd.
So .. a 50 year old waterway that until this year had not been used .. goes boom and you equate this with a cellphone radiation study? Wow. You are a special kind of stupid.
Tell me what you believe...I'll tell you what you should see.
So mankind has always had a powerful EM radiation transmitter pressed against its collective skull? Really?
I was radiated with cell phone energy from 2001 to 2007 and my MRI showed brain damage.
Motorola Engineers also sued Motorola for Brain Cancer from testing cell phones.
If U put cell phone on your lap while driving, you might get testicle/scrotem cancer.
Also, if U R far from the tower, the cell phone will increase the energy used to your brain. Make sure you have full BARS and VOIP home phone.
We actually have historic snow pack in the mountains and our reservoirs are overflowing. We've so much watch our dam is in trouble. We are not in a drought anymore. Jerry Moonbeam Brown might say so, but that's not reality.
That does not mean we won't face a future drought, but we will also get another El Nino effect afterward. It's actually a cycle and many people hate all the rain during these times, at least in Southern California. I love it, but I wasn't born here. If only my family would move to a different state or would follow. Can't leave all the old folks alone after all.
What is particularly ironic is that the same people who obsess over the possible health effects of cellphone radiation will send their children outside to play in the sunshine without a moment's thought ... to be exposed to ionizing radiation that causes about 10,000 deaths per year from melanoma in the U.S. alone.
This is totally off-topic, but its worth remembering that the water that is inundating California isn't all evenly distributed, so there may very well be parts of California that are still in drought conditions, while other parts are very much in non-drought conditions. Since the governor is responsible for the entire state, he may very well be aware of the local maxima/minima, and how well the former can be retained/distributed to the latter, over time.
Fire is EM radiation. We've sat in front of that for a while.
Which are you?
That does the damage. If you beam the same W/m2 continuously you won't do much damage apart from local heating up of tissues. Pulse the damage in a way similar to neurons - aka digital - and you'll start forming disease.
How many Billions of cell phones are there in the wild today? How many Billion more will be made and sold tomorrow? How much more than $1 has been made in profit on each? How much do you think human lives are worth to those making and regulating cell phones?
yea, its called the planet... fucktard
there were instances of fried sailors who got in the path of the radar antenna.
It wasn't some mysterious effect of radiation... they were burned. Heated till their skin blistered. Walking into a campfire is dangerous, also. If you're worried about heat, a kitten held to the side of your face is more dangerous than a cellphone.
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The underground aquifers have not been replenished, we need 5 more years of water like this year to do that.
No water, drought. Suck it up. Or tell central Valley ag to stop growing stuff.
RF energy penetrates in a different fashion than kitten snuggling heat. Don't touch the antenna of a powerful radio broadcaster RF burns are real.
Actually the lead pipes in Flint Michigan didn't become a serious problem until highly polluted water was run through them. Lead pipes develop a patina that shields the water running through it. The switch to nasty contaminated river water corroded the pipes and introduced the large amount of lead that is the problem now.
Bing Tsher, at least you are spot on, awake, you do your homework. Great job!
If you touch a screen projector light bulb you get the same effect. As long as it's not ionizing, EM is EM, just a difference in penetration and how evenly you're warmed. The heat from my cellphone's battery is worse for me than the 0.2watts total of microwave EM it emits. If anything, being more penetrative reduces the concentration of the heating. The human brain generates about 25 watts of waste heat. It's going to take some pretty high wattage cellphone to make any difference.
Know what will quickly increase my brain's temperature? Working out.
Chewing at power cords will eventually increase the chances of getting cancer, there's a lot of chemicals in them.
That is, if you survive electrocution.
Here I go again showing your lack of understanding of radiation. Harmless natural hertz and harmless natural terahertz radiation is natural and cause no cancer, but everything man-made in between causes cancer!!!
The above is from the same poster that thinks radiation that penetrates further is more harmful than UV radiation that "penetrates less than 1mm"
Interestingly, it looks like certain wavelengths of visible light can kill bacteria. This radiation should be non-ionizing, and I doubt it's doing the killing due to heating effects (it happens in the fridge). So are we certain that non-ionizing radiation can't damage DNA/RNA?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home/blue-purple-light-kill-bacteria/
The higher the frequency, the more "damaging" the EM radiation, except possibly in cases where there is a resonance. Every atom in our body emits IR radiation. Once you calculate for the surface area of a human's atomic surface area, you're sitting in the range of 15 gigawatts of IR at room temperature. If you think the radiation of a 1watt cellphone is going to compare to the 15 billion times of IR..... But, if you think the 1 watt of microwave radiation could cause localized heating, then I agree.
While our body deals with a wide range of temperatures, it's "not normal" to have a potentially sharp temperature gradient. As for the brain. Not sure. It has a lot of blood flow and should keep the temperature quite uniform. Not to mention the brain generates 20watts of waste heat. Assuming 100% of that 1 watt gets absorbed, you're talking about a 5% increase in waste heat. The deeper the microwave radiation penetrates, the more evenly distributed the heating will be.
It all comes down to heating and there are many things in our lives that cause much worse heating, by magnitudes. If you're concerned about resonance, don't worry, newer wifi tech is using more and more spread spectrum and wider and wider channels.
Why not use Lead pipes? They use Lead as a sweetener. Goes great on all kinds of food. It's like they had soda for water.
WTF are you smoking?
Do you have any idea how much power 15 gigawatts is? Where could that much power possibly come from?
Always love seeing those labels "The product is known to the State of California to contain chemicals that may cause cancer." Nobody else knows, though, which should tell you everything you need to know about the State of California thinking they're smarter than its citizens who wouldn't be able to go about their lives without the State telling them to.
A flat, smooth metal square someone can stand on. The same metal, shaped with jagged edges, would slice the person to bits. Digital energy pulsed in non-smooth, broken waveforms, creates jagged energy environments. Notice remote charging? This is possible because the particular arrangement and timing of pulses differs from smooth analog waves. The digital wifi differs from simple analog emf in the same way that a smooth metal square differs from a serated knife edge.
of course, other microwave frequencies will, as well. Nothing special about 2.45 GHz, other than being an ISM frequency.
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Cancer causes cell phones
I guess you are one of those "free energy" dudes*?
(* mostly dudes)
Remote charging is possible with "smooth analog waves" and the rest of your post is equally crap.
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My uncle worked at a large reputable company producing cell phones. He mentioned that they did extensive studies on the health effects of cell phones and never encountered any issues. They were actually trying to prove it caused harm so they could find ways to then solve it, but were never able to produce any results that suggested that it did.
Learn to read. I never said there's a 15 gigawatt energy gradient, I just said there's 15 gigawatts of energy moving around in the form of IR. Just because there is not a gradient doesn't mean we're not being bathed in it.