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WikiLeaks Reveals CIA's Secret Hacking Tools and Spy Operations (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson, writing for BetaNews: WikiLeaks has unleashed a treasure trove of data to the internet, exposing information about the CIA's arsenal of hacking tools. Code-named Vault 7, the first data is due to be released in serialized form, starting off with "Year Zero" as part one. A cache of over 8,500 documents and files has been made available via BitTorrent in an encrypted archive. The plan had been to release the password at 9:00am ET today, but when a scheduled online press conference and stream came "under attack" prior to this, the password was released early. Included in the "extraordinary" release are details of the zero day weapons used by the CIA to exploit iPhones, Android phones, Windows, and even Samsung TVs to listen in on people. Routers, Linux, macOS -- nothing is safe. WikiLeaks explains how the "CIA's hacking division" -- or the Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI) as it is officially known -- has produced thousands of weaponized pieces of malware, Trojans, viruses and other tools. It's a leak that's essentially Snowden 2.0. In a statement, WikiLeaks said CIA has tools to bypass the encryption mechanisms imposed by popular instant messenger apps Signal, Confide, WhatsApp (used by more than a billion people), and Telegram.
No need for zero-day exploits when Donnie's using a four-year-old Samsung that's probably got more holes than Jeff Sessions' Congress testimony.
How would we know these are the CIA tools and not ones the Russians released to Wikileaks and fooling them into thinking they are the CIA tools? Or that Wikileaks knows they are Russian and is simply lying?
Your Intel CPU is already backdoored
Forget security, your Intel CPU is already backdoored and it is wide open.
Remember, *3 Billion devices run JAVA*, and your motherboard backdoor is running it.
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
32c3 Intel backdoor live hack demonstration, keystrokes logged and downloaded over wire, wireshark can't detect:
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
Tools to remove Intel backdoor firmware:
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner.
Neutralize your Intel backdoor:
Neutralize ME firmware on SandyBridge and IvyBridge platforms
First introduced in Intelâ(TM)s 965 Express Chipset Family, the Intel Management Engine (ME) is a separate computing environment physically located in the (G)MCH chip (for Core 2 family CPUs which is separate from the northbridge), or PCH chip replacing ICH(for Core i3/i5/i7 which is integrated with northbridge).
The ME consists of an individual processor core, code and data caches, a timer, and a secure internal bus to which additional devices are connected, including a cryptography engine, internal ROM and RAM, memory controllers, and a direct memory access (DMA) engine to access the host operating systemâ(TM)s memory as well as to reserve a region of protected external memory to supplement the MEâ(TM)s limited internal RAM. The ME also has network access with its own MAC address through the Intel Gigabit Ethernet Controller integrated in the southbridge (ICH or PCH).
The Intel Management Engine with its proprietary firmware has complete access to and control over the PC: it can power on or shut down the PC, read all open files, examine all running applications, track all keys pressed and mouse movements, and even capture or display images on the screen. And it has a network interface that is demonstrably insecure, which can allow an attacker on the network to inject rootkits that completely compromise the PC and can report to the attacker all activities performed on the PC. It is a threat to freedom, security, and privacy that canâ(TM)t be ignored.
https://hackaday.com/tag/intel-management-engine/
Five or so years ago, Intel rolled out something horrible. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine (ME) is a completely separate computing environment running on Intel chipsets that has access to everything. The ME has network access, access to the host operating system, memory, and cryptography engine. The ME can be used remotely even if the PC is powered off. If that sounds scary, it gets even worse: no one knows what the ME is doing, and we canâ(TM)t even look at the code. When â" not âifâ(TM) â" the ME is finally cracked open, every computer running on a recent Intel chip will have a huge security and privacy issue. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine is the single most dangerous piece of computer hardware ever created.
Intel Active Management Technology
Almost all AMT features are available even if the PC is in a powered-off state but with its power cord attached, if the operating system has crashed, if the software agent is missing, or if hardware (such as a hard drive or memory) has failed.[1][2] The console-redirection feature (SOL), agent presence checking, and network traffic filters are available after the PC is powered up.[1][2]
The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and protected coprocessor, embedded as a non-optional[29] part in all current (as of 2015) Intel chipset
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/...
Reading list
A list of websites I like to check out to stay up to date and get new ideas:
General
http://reddit.com/r/netsec along with all the other good subreddits (RE, forensics)
http://thehackernews.com/
http://slashdot.org
Forensics
http://swiftforensics.com/
Ha, ha, hello CIA friends, I hope you've enjoyed all my ENTIRELY SATIRICAL posts over the years that may have appeared to the slow of wit to be critical of the government and the Agency, but were in fact entirely in jest. I'm sure you had a good chuckle all the times I COMPLETELY IRONICALLY referred to you as lying liars who lie about your lies to bring us into war under war false pretenses...over and over again.
Anywho, keep up the good work, friends!
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
20 years ago there would have been hearings and elections and all sorts of excitement about this.
Now we just shrug cry and accept.
"upstanding journalistic organizations"
Nah, they're Julian Assange, and he'll leak anything that comes his way that looks juicy. In this case it will be the same source as his DNC leaks, i.e. Russian intelligence using him as an outlet.
The timing is telling, Trump just did a "Obama spied on me to interfere with the elections" thing. Who hacked the elections? Well the US spies say it was Russia, but POTUS says it was Obama. That fell flat on it's face. And now from the same source, a lot of CIA zero day exploits, with the release brought forward to today. Tomorrow I wouldn't be surprised if we get Trump tweeting again, trying to leverage this into an attack on the CIA and FBI to back up his spy claims. Another day, another attack from POTUS on America, another defense of Putin.
This is a ping-pong pattern, Trump said Sweden was crime ridden due to immigrants. next day Sweden then had a riot, Radio24syv investigates it, finds Russian TV station NTV paid youths to burn a car. Trump supporters cited the riot as proof Trump was right and Swedish media was wrong.
When you have a foreign countries propaganda unit at your disposal, and Republican putting party before country, you have a takeover. It's the same pattern repeating itself.
As far as I'm aware, nobody has denied that Trumps (not the US president at the time) phones were tapped as part of an investigation into his shady links with Russia. What is remarkable is his sudden claim without any supporting evidence or context that the then Whitehouse ordered a criminal investigation without any of the people responsible for performing the investigation knowing about it. Basically, it's childishly obvious as bullshit. In a burst of supreme hypocrisy, Trump was literally just last week wailing on the press for publishing articles without naming sources or revealing evidence. He has no sense of decency left whatsoever.
Legality is EXTREMELY questionable. (ianal)
Obviously. That you think the government, any government, should be prohibited from using tools to monitor/spy/whatever on others would defeat the whole purpose of intelligence gathering. They have to use these means to find out what they don't know. It's their job.
Do you think Russia isn't doing the same thing? Are you going to whine about them doing this? How about Israel? What excuse will you use to justify them doing this but not the U.S.? How about we go back several thousand years and go after government agents of Egypt or Babylon who were using means at their disposal to do the same thing which would otherwise get citizens in trouble.
There's a reason people should seek legal help from real attorneys rather than some random stranger on the internet. Your comment clearly shows why this should be heeded.
The NSA records every phone call, every email, every SMS and most web access, especially foreign people. Obama did not have to order a special wire tapp (Trump's spelling), it is done routinely. Trump may have shot himself in the foot by making surveillance an issue. Everybody does not like being under surveillance so I will throw the canned response back at this administration, "If you have nothing to hide, why complain about surveillance?"
I expect privacy and anonymity, but I know I do not have right.
The man on your telescreen is unquestionable and no one should suspect that they only do good things and never abuse their powers
*3 Billion devices run JAVA* because everyone's motherboard is running it.
32c3 Intel CPU backdoor live hack demonstration, keystrokes logged and sent over wire, wireshark can't detect packet because the Intel backdoor runs above the OS:
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Tools to remove Intel backdoor firmware (The backdoor firmware sits outside the BIOS, you need to physically clip onto a 8pin chip on motherboards to download/neutralize/flash the rom, nothing else can touch it):
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner.
Neutralize your Intel backdoor:
Neutralize ME firmware on SandyBridge and IvyBridge platforms
First introduced in Intelâ(TM)s 965 Express Chipset Family, the Intel Management Engine (ME) is a separate computing environment physically located in the (G)MCH chip (for Core 2 family CPUs which is separate from the northbridge), or PCH chip replacing ICH(for Core i3/i5/i7 which is integrated with northbridge).
The ME consists of an individual processor core, code and data caches, a timer, and a secure internal bus to which additional devices are connected, including a cryptography engine, internal ROM and RAM, memory controllers, and a direct memory access (DMA) engine to access the host operating systemâ(TM)s memory as well as to reserve a region of protected external memory to supplement the MEâ(TM)s limited internal RAM. The ME also has network access with its own MAC address through the Intel Gigabit Ethernet Controller integrated in the southbridge (ICH or PCH).
The Intel Management Engine with its proprietary firmware has complete access to and control over the PC: it can power on or shut down the PC, read all open files, examine all running applications, track all keys pressed and mouse movements, and even capture or display images on the screen. And it has a network interface that is demonstrably insecure, which can allow an attacker on the network to inject rootkits that completely compromise the PC and can report to the attacker all activities performed on the PC. It is a threat to freedom, security, and privacy that canâ(TM)t be ignored.
https://hackaday.com/tag/intel-management-engine/
Five or so years ago, Intel rolled out something horrible. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine (ME) is a completely separate computing environment running on Intel chipsets that has access to everything. The ME has network access, access to the host operating system, memory, and cryptography engine. The ME can be used remotely even if the PC is powered off. If that sounds scary, it gets even worse: no one knows what the ME is doing, and we canâ(TM)t even look at the code. When â" not âifâ(TM) â" the ME is finally cracked open, every computer running on a recent Intel chip will have a huge security and privacy issue. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine is the single most dangerous piece of computer hardware ever created.
Intel Active Management Technology
Almost all AMT features are available even if the PC is in a powered-off state but with its power cord attached, if the operating system has crashed, if the software agent is missing, or if hardware (such as a hard drive or memory) has failed.[1][2] The console-redirection feature (SOL), agent presence checking, and network traffic filters are available after the PC is powered up.[1][2]
The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and protected co
The article summary is a bit misleading. There is no indication that the CIA can break Signal's encryption or intercept its communications in-transit.
Wikileaks' press release states that the CIA can root mobile devices, which then allows them to intercept Signal communications *before* encryption is applied.
As far as I'm aware, nobody has denied that Trumps (not the US president at the time) phones were tapped as part of an investigation into his shady links with Russia.
James Clapper did.
FTA:
The director of national intelligence at the time of the US election has denied there was any wire-tapping of Donald Trump or his campaign.
James Clapper also told NBC that he knew of no court order to allow monitoring of Trump Tower in New York.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Can I be the first to say:
In CIA America, TV watches YOU!
I feel like I may already be too late though.
Market forces are exactly what you want in play when you're lying on a gurney in the emergency room; that way people won't be saved for a penny less than they or their families value their lives.
The question isn't about the spy capabilities. It's about whether these tools are used without logging and review by elected officials from the Congressional security committees.
If they can be, then they will be by this or that faction spying not on the bad guys but their own political opponents. This is the reason for the 4th Amendment, to stop the king from filching through opponents' papers at will looking for stuff to tag them with.
They should have an automated and non-disablable logging system that stuff things into some MD5 file that is copied offsite to multiple places, to prevent editing of it. I'm pretty sure they have little more than a piece of paper with a checkbox "You did bother to get a warrant. Or at least a national security letter, right?" before all activity is not logged anyway.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Wikileaks is one of the few remaining upstanding journalistic organizations. .
The fact that you don't like how the US operates does not in and of itself prove that Wikileads is as upstanding as you hope. Take a look at Russia and China. Can you and I at least agree that those countries have their own problems of various kinds? Don't you find it funny that nobody, not one single person, who lives there and has access to their secrets is willing to send them to Wikileaks? Back in the old days of the USSR, the US was able to find Soviet citizens who would risk their lives to pass on information to the US and not for profit. Why is it that today nobody seems willing to leak documentation on Russia and China? It's not difficult to find born and raised in China people who aren't very fond of their government. So I wonder could it possibly be that people actually are submitting leaks from Russia and China and Wikipedia isn't publishing them? I don't know. But I think anybody who blindly supports Wikileaks as the champion of right should wonder why it seems that only leaks from the USA (and apparently Saudi Arabia once) make it there.
And we can totally trust James Clapper
I laughed at the weak who considered themselves good because they lacked claws.
NSA/CIA/GCHQ Shills kept down voting this from Score 3:
Your Intel CPU is backdoored and it is wide open, right now.
The backdoor is on all modern intel CPU/Chipset and is marketed as vPro/AMT/Small Business Advantage/Anti-Theft Technology.
Remember *3 Billion devices run JAVA* because everyone's motherboard is running it.
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
CCC Intel CPU backdoor live hack demonstration, keystrokes logged and sent over wire, wireshark can't detect packet because the Intel backdoor runs above the OS:
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
Jacob Appelbaum - To Protect and Infect Part 2 - At 30c3 on Mass Surveillance Tools & Software
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
Tools to remove Intel backdoor firmware (You need to physically clip onto a 8pins chip on motherboards to download/neutralize/flash the rom, nothing else can touch it):
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner.
Neutralize your Intel backdoor:
Neutralize ME firmware on SandyBridge and IvyBridge platforms
First introduced in Intelâ(TM)s 965 Express Chipset Family, the Intel Management Engine (ME) is a separate computing environment physically located in the (G)MCH chip (for Core 2 family CPUs which is separate from the northbridge), or PCH chip replacing ICH(for Core i3/i5/i7 which is integrated with northbridge).
The ME consists of an individual processor core, code and data caches, a timer, and a secure internal bus to which additional devices are connected, including a cryptography engine, internal ROM and RAM, memory controllers, and a direct memory access (DMA) engine to access the host operating systemâ(TM)s memory as well as to reserve a region of protected external memory to supplement the MEâ(TM)s limited internal RAM. The ME also has network access with its own MAC address through the Intel Gigabit Ethernet Controller integrated in the southbridge (ICH or PCH).
The Intel Management Engine with its proprietary firmware has complete access to and control over the PC: it can power on or shut down the PC, read all open files, examine all running applications, track all keys pressed and mouse movements, and even capture or display images on the screen. And it has a network interface that is demonstrably insecure, which can allow an attacker on the network to inject rootkits that completely compromise the PC and can report to the attacker all activities performed on the PC. It is a threat to freedom, security, and privacy that canâ(TM)t be ignored.
https://hackaday.com/tag/intel-management-engine/
Five or so years ago, Intel rolled out something horrible. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine (ME) is a completely separate computing environment running on Intel chipsets that has access to everything. The ME has network access, access to the host operating system, memory, and cryptography engine. The ME can be used remotely even if the PC is powered off. If that sounds scary, it gets even worse: no one knows what the ME is doing, and we canâ(TM)t even look at the code. When â" not âifâ(TM) â" the ME is finally cracked open, every computer running on a recent Intel chip will have a huge security and privacy issue. Intelâ(TM)s Management Engine is the single most dangerous piece of computer hardware ever created.
They're not using it on russia though.
They're using it against american journalists, american dissenters, american citizens, and even american polticians whose policies aren't tyrannical enough for their own tastes.
They're *SUPPOSED* to gather and use information to keep america safe, but it turns out they're the enemy we need to be protected from.
Ever heard of the phrase "An angry man is an enemy, and a satisfied man is an ally"?
Ya. Worst pick-up line - ever.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
To be fair: If James Clapper says they didn't, then they did. Not with the white house's knowledge, mind, but that guy's credibility is right down there with POTUS45 himself.
This leaves us with a time-destroying paradox: Clapper says they didn't, but Trump says that they did. Therefore they absolutely did so, and absolutely cannot have done so. Both possibilities both did and could not have occurred, and our primitive technology does not yet allow us to see the havoc we have wreaked upon our poor continuum.
No, what he said was "I can deny it". Which isn't actually a denial is it. Its a statement, but a meaningless. I can say the "sky is red," its easy to do, but it does not make for a red sky. Clapper is a SOB that has been caught lying before under oath. He escapes prosecution I think because many politicians are afraid of the deep state.
They told us our phone records were private too unless and until someone got a warrant, turned out that was not exactly the case. We have a secret court FISA, a FUCKING SECRET COURT, for which even after investigation are closed and intelligence actions are completed the records from which remain under seal often for decades! Any truly reasonable interpretation of the Bill of Rights, part of Constitution the highest law of land does not all that shit. The leaks pretty much show the spooks are running basically wild. Its time to go after the three letters and the government can't do because they are scared of their own shadows. Unfortunately that leaves the likes of people who are probably not exactly of great character like Assange to do it.
So here we are with a CIA run by people Trump was insulting thorough his campaign. They participated in the attribution of the compromise of the DNC and foreign political propaganda (Note not election hacking or stealing because lets face it note vote total tampering has been alleged). Now we find them with a whole suite of tools for performing attacks and making it look like a foreign country, like Russia, did it. Can't get your flunky elected because she is to much a scandal ridden bitch half the country hates, do the next best thing undermine the credibility of the guy who does get elected so nobody will work with him, so he can't implement any reforms, and carry on business as usual. Right?
Trump might not have any real credibility but even if that is true he has a much as James Clapper, 0, and as much as any of the other three letters. As big a set back as it would be to our overall preparedness, I really believe nothing sort of a near complete housecleaning can fix this. Like literally dissolve the CIA, and NSA, and stand up a new organization with entirely new people former CIA/NSA workers need not apply and put the whole thing back under the control of the Pentagon inside the primary chain of command where it can be properly administrated and observed.
Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
Your reading comprehension skills are terrible. Very first sentence of the article:
"The NY Times reported that wiretaps of people on the Trump team"
TRUMP TEAM. No where in either article mentioned does it say that Trump himself or Trump Tower was wire tapped. It's like you people don't even read...at all. I mean, it's EVEN IN THE HEADLINE TOO.
Another AC spewing pro-Trump, pro-Putin lies. FSB running in over-drive.
The President doesn't need the spooks' technological spying techniques. That's what he's got Breitbart and Fox for!
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The problem with malware and high tech devices is that they cannot always be accurately contained.
Oh, very insightful. What, in reading the story from WikiLeaks, about the leaked trove of CIA hacking tools, led you to believe the hacking tools could not always be contained?
Also, the existence of weapons isn't really a problem. Yes, the government has cyber weapons. They also have nuclear weapons that can annihilate the entire planet. What matters is the manner in which such things are, or are not used. I'm not terrified because the FBI has the ability to kick down my door at any time. Of course they can. Doors have been kickdownable since the invention of doors and kicking. My protection against having my door kicked down is not the removal of boots from the FBI or an unkickdownable door, but a piece of paper that says they can't do it without a warrant from a judge to whom they have demonstrated probable cause that I have committed a crime. So, the CIA's weapons are fine. But is anybody checking to see how they're using them, and who they're using them on? Somehow I doubt it.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
I'll concede that James Clapper's credibility isn't stellar, but it still contradicts GP's assertion that "nobody has denied." Would Obama be any more credible?
FTA:
“Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false," said Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for the former president.
Also, James Comey asked the DOJ to deny the assertions, but that stops just short of being an actual denial.
Trump might not have any real credibility but...as much as any of the other three letters.
Are you really saying that information coming to us from DJT is as trustworthy as information being published by the FBI/NSA/CIA?
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
> "Well they're the CIA, that's their job right?"
Nope. This is a common misconception. Their job is to protect (and enrich) the US Federal government, not the US people. Thats also true of the police. Their job is to enforce the law, which is written to do the same thing. They really aren't (and can't/won't be) there to protect your ass. Thats just one of the reasons why the 2nd amendment is so important.
I was presenting Clapper as an alternative to "nobody." And, as I mention above somewhere, Obama has denied it too. So, which president do you think is telling the truth? It's not both.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Mod me flamebait if you will, but that's how Trump got to "I was wiretapped!" Via a conspiracy theory from a right wing radio host that Breitbarts picked up and Fox ran with. We have a man at the top of the one of the most powerful espionage machines the world has ever known, and he gets "intel" from right wing commentators. Can't you see this for what it is, a massive vulnerability at the very top of the US Government? A foreign power could game the system by selectively feeding the likes of Levin and Breitbart stories of this kind, and because Trump clearly has no trust of his own departments, and spends far too much time watching television, he would be supremely vulnerable to such manipulation.
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Clapper isn't trustworthy, but then again, neither is Trump, who clearly just picked up on a bunch of garbage coming from Levin and Breitbarts, more conspiracy theory nonsense, and running with it. It's pretty clear that no one else in the White House even saw this coming, which is why they really had no way of countering it other than "The President has ways of knowing things!" Considering we can trace the wiretap claim right back to Levin, who was exaggerating the already well known fact that Russian communications were being monitored during and after the election (because concocting anti-Obama conspiracy theories is what right wing radio shock jocks have been doing for eight fucking long years), so we know Trump didn't likely get any of this information from the FBI or any other government intelligence services.
And now we see as Trump's mouthpieces basically dilute the entire wiretap claim to the point where it was "something", that they're trying to make the entire "wiretapping of Trump Tower" conspiracy theory go away, because what Trump really did was empower and invite Congressional oversight to begin looking even closer at the nonsense going on between Trump's proxies and the Russians during and after the election.
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People keep pointing to this piece of an NY Times story and inserting claims that were not made. It's been known for fucking months that US security services were keeping a damned close eye on Russian communications. If the likes of Sessions and Flynn were so fucking stupid and incautious as to be just chatting up the Russian Ambassador on behalf of their boss, well they deserve what they get. The takeaway here is that Trump and his proxies are fucking morons, regardless of whether they were actually doing anything wrong or not. In politics, the perception of scandal can be as bad as an actual scandal.
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Since the allegation was literally, "President Obama was tapping my phones," and Obama's spokesperson said, "Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen," it does sound to me like Obama is denying the allegation.
Which I feel brings us to the point that it would actually be kind of staggering if Trump weren't subject to one or more federal wiretaps, given his and his pals' repeated interaction with many and varied Russians who are persons of interest to the US government for a variety of reasons.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
On the March 6, 2017 Tucker Carlson show, Congressman Jim Hines admitted Congress (and his committee) is not conducting any meaningful oversight of the spy agencies.
Just as plausibly, Flynn, Sessions and heaven knows who else simply got caught up in the US government's already well known spying on the Russian ambassador and other Russian officials in the US. In other words, there was no need to directly target Trump and his proxies at all. They literally walked into the existing monitoring that was going on. And really, at that point, if you have some US citizens chatting up Putin's representatives, how is that not justification for seeking FISA warrants to take a closer look at those proxies?
This is the part that amazes me. Even if I'm willing to accept that Sessions, Flynn, Kushner and whomever else was getting cozy with the Russians weren't committing any crimes, how could these people have gone around imagining that their activities wouldn't be noted by US security agencies? Sessions and Flynn have been around a long goddamned time and certainly must be at least vaguely aware of what the FBI, NSA, CIA and Secret Service are capable of. This either betrays a kind of supreme arrogance, or a level of base stupidity, and in either case doesn't exactly recommend these men to any kind of high office or position of trust. That Flynn and Sessions felt compelled to lie about it makes it all the more curious.
Here's my opinion, for the little bit it's worth. I don't think even they thought Trump would win. I think both Congressional Republicans and Trump's own team had no real expectation up until the last week or so before the election that they would ever have to be in a position to explain themselves. When he won, and suddenly they had to answer to somebody about their activities (Flynn to Pence and Sessions to the Senate confirmation committee) they suddenly had to answer questions they never imagined would be posed to them. If Trump had lost, nobody would given a flying fuck about Trump's chief advisers and supporters. There might still have been a peak into Trump-Russia leaks, but it wouldn't have been the kind of microscope that's being employed now. And the funniest part is that Trump's propagating the whole wiretapping claim has literally invited both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees to probe even deeper.
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Don't we already have that in place? Don't families already have to stage car-washes and Fund-me campaigns to help pay for medical care?
Only I can judge you.
If you believe all the "IT'S THE RUSSIANS" narrative then you're a real idiot.
That's the DNC line that has kinda stuck so they keep running with it. We've heard easily ten different arguments trying to discredit Trump before "the russians!".
- He's unexperienced!
- He's not as rich as he says!
- He wants war with Russia!
- He hates women!
- He grabs your pussy!
- He's crazy!
- The Pope says he's no good!
- He's probably doing Ivanka!
- He's abusing Melania!
- He hates being president!
- He's in bed with Russia! -- you are here
All the above have been attempts at bringing him down. You guys are really running out of ideas.
The question isn't about the spy capabilities. It's about whether these tools are used without logging and review by elected officials from the Congressional security committees.
That might be one of the questions for Americans, but the vast majority of the world and of CIA's victims isn't American. Wikileaks isn't American either. This information matters much more for the rest of the world than it does to the American democracy. We can count in one hand the number of Americans drone murdered. Compare that to Pakistanis.
Most of the American public doesn't care about mass murder outside of America and think all this capabilities and uses are fine as long as it's legal and there is congressional review.
Did you get the old news about the innocent that was kidnapped by the CIA in Italy, delivered to be tortured in Egypt, and suffered for 4 years? None of the American criminals went to jail. The 22000 American IP addressees in this publication should be the least of the world's concerns.
So many strawmen in just one comment... here are your "rebuttals" to things he didn't say:
"you think the government, any government, should be prohibited from using tools to monitor/spy/whatever on others"
"Do you think Russia isn't doing the same thing?" (technically this one is a question but it's totally irrelevant to his point)
" What excuse will you use to justify them doing this but not the U.S.?"