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Popular Open-Source Audio Editor Audacity Adds Windows 10 Support, More Improvements (audacityteam.org)
Audacity, a popular open-source and cross-platform audio editor, has received a "maintenance" update that brings several improvements. Dubbed v2.1.3, the biggest new addition appears to be support for Windows 10 OS. For Mac users, Audacity now works in tandem with the Magic Mouse. "We now support Trackpad and Magic Mouse horizontal scroll without SHIFT key and Trackpad pinch and expand to zoom at the pointer," the release note says. We also have new "Scrub Ruler" and "Scrub Toolbar" scrubbing options in the application now. Read the full changelog here.
That's not "improvements", that's a bug fix in my book.
Table-ized A.I.
It's too popular.
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This is so funnay!!! You going to be the next Dane Cook or Carlos Mencia!!
Why has nobody told me this? I've been using Audacity on Win10 for months!
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Holy Aqua Interfaces Batman!
http://www.audacity.audio/wp-c...
Open source projects seem to consistently have poor UIs. And before anyone jumps me, yes I have been involved in interface design on open source apps. Maybe it's a matter of taste, but the current interface looks like a bad Aqua app from 10 years ago. Jelly bean buttons? Seriously?
And to put my time where my mouth is, if any of the developers are reading this and want help contact me. Not a deep coder but have done UI layout in the Mac/iOS world. If you think it's fine as is, then we should agree to disagree.
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You haven't been paying attention, have you? Nobody wants their serious work (work that makes money for them) interrupted by an operating system updating itself whenever it damn well pleases.
It's likely to have happened to some people, but it's heavily overblown. They can't let facts get in the way, though.
Hurr hurr... What a witty rejoinder.
Does Audacity have the concept of clips like other sound editors and nonlinear video editors?
The last time I tried to use it, it seemed to treat each track as a single waveform, so if I trimmed a bit off a track I couldn't just drag to grow a bit of it back. This made simple tasks like synchronizing multiple tracks extremely difficult.
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For the 3D rendering job, what amateur hour software are you using that doesn't save and restart its state? No program should expect to be running, uninterrupted, for hours - it should be saving state so when something goes wrong, it can just resume from where it left off. (Yes, some of this is lazy developers - I have hydrodynamic software that suffers from this, because it makes engineers grumpy when there's a power cut, beyond our control. Something as simple as saving state every five minutes is such a brain dead obvious thing to do..)
If that software is really up to date, it will even integrate with the restart manager system in Windows 10 and automatically resume.
As for the 3D printing job.. honestly, that should be delegated out and the entire print job sent to the independent processor on the printer. (MakerBots read off SD cards without a PC in sight, for crying out loud.)
The real issue is the 'few that spoil it for the many' - the few users and developers that didn't update their machines, or developers that made it all harder than it should have been, resulting in Microsoft being more aggressive - some of us remember the days of various internet worms, when we would argue Microsoft had a moral responsibility to get as many computers as up to date as possible.
windows users are not people. they are mindless slaves. your opinion, like your life is a net negative.
You are welcome. :) Boy, you are certainly the big Carlos Mencia fan!
Also, what or who is Dane Cook?
Yes I have. Windows 10 installs updates without asking, thrashes the drive for hours while doing so, slows any programs you are using to a crawl, and then breaks said program after rebooting while you were getting coffee.
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For the 3D rendering job, what amateur hour software are you using that doesn't save and restart its state?
I wouldn't call Z-brush, Mudbox, Maya or 3DS Max amateur. It sounds like you haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about and don't understand 3D modeling or graphics work at all.
No program should expect to be running, uninterrupted, for hours
Are you out of your fucking mind, you little millennial advert-weened shit? ALL program should be doing that.
it should be saving state so when something goes wrong, it can just resume from where it left off
That sounds like the job of the OS, not software. But being a stupid little Microsoft shill, you would try to pass the blame off.
As for the 3D printing job.. honestly, that should be delegated out and the entire print job sent to the independent processor on the printer.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda..what if what if what if what if. Sorry, you're disconnected from reality, little boy. That's not how it works. I bet you've never even used a 3D printer, let alone done any work with one. So where did you get your SD card that holds terabytes worth of model data? Where did you get your SD card that allows you to do 3D modeling on it?
The real issue is the 'few that spoil it for the many' - the few users and developers that didn't update their machines, or developers that made it all harder than it should have been, resulting in Microsoft being more aggressive - some of us remember the days of various internet worms, when we would argue Microsoft had a moral responsibility to get as many computers as up to date as possible.
Microsoft has a moral obligation to let users do what they want with the computers they pay for. I don't give a shit about your little millennial, little fucking kid "worms" and shit, much like I don't give a shit about morons like you who download and run every random executable.
Fuck, you are a stupid, advertising-raised, little millennial shit. I'd beat the fucking crap out of you if I ever met you, punk-ass bitch little kid.
I've used Audacity for years. It's a powerful, useful audio editor. The releases are stable. It's a great program.
Though, the UI is not in keeping with the quality of the rest of the program. I have written to the developers. The response I got back suggested that the developers are not really open for any kind of visual changes. In fact, the reskinning functionally was removed in later versions.
I would like a UI that looks more like Ardour. Though, if the developers don't like dark themed UI's, perhaps a slider could be added something like in Adobe Premier so the user can change the light/dark elements on the fly. Other work needs to be done, like modernizing the icons and making sure it is ready for 4K.
Additionally, thank you for Audacity. It is a wonderful program, worthy of being a showpiece in the open source community.
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"Magic Mouse horizontal scroll without SHIFT key" ... silence ... and now this. Thanks Audacity team. Happy. :-)
It's nice to see a suggestion taken on board and implemented. I use FCP X all day so side scrolling the timeline with the Magic Mouse is very important. When I used Audacity, I noticed it couldn't do that, which slowed my editing down significantly. I reported it, some communication happened, a screen recording was sent, then
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Window$ 10 adds you.
/sarcasm Exactly, in between reboots. :-)
Ba dum tsh.
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I've had it reboot for updates in the middle of my workday, as I'm in the middle of typing a sentence. Twice. On two different systems. Unfortunately, I need Windows or macOS for a few apps that don't exist on Linux, or I'd make that switch in a heartbeat; and I use a few resource-heavy apps which, while they have Mac versions, simply don't perform as well on a Mac, in no small part because I can build a Windows workstation that trumps any hardware Apple is willing to sell me. That's really what's keeping me on Windows at this point; if I could run macOS on more capable hardware, that's what I'd do in a heartbeat.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
I'd say... most days since I started using it in 2015. I was able to say "every day" until it happened to me back in October on a Win 10 Home system. And again 3 days ago, on a Win 10 Pro system.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Theres a reason there is an 'active hours' setting.
I'm still trying to figure out what that reason is, as both times it happened to me, once on Win 10 Home, once on a different machine running Win 10 Pro, it not only rebooted during Active Hours, but as I was actively typing!
Active hours lets us know then you usually use this device. When a restart is necessary to finish installing an update, we won't automatically restart your device during active hours.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Note: We'll check to see if you're using this device before attempting to restart.
Okay, that makes sense; that must mean they'll only restart automatically if you are using the device.
Which aligns quite well with my experience; I've never come back to an automatically-rebooted-for-updates Windows 10 system, but I've sure had it reboot on me while I was sitting at it and actively typing. Like, mid-sentence. Twice. On two different systems running two different editions of Windows 10.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
It actually has "you're" spelled correctly, and says "this device", not "the device" (which would still be proper, anyway). I know for certain, because I'm actually looking at it as I type this, having opened the settings pane to quote it just a few moments ago.
That said, as I've literally never come back to a Windows 10 machine freshly rebooted for updates, but I have had it reboot during Active Hours and while I was actively typing on it (on 2 different machines running 2 different editions of W10, Home and Pro, none the less), I'm going to go out on a limb and say they mean "We'll only actually automatically reboot for updates when you're actively using the system, regardless of your Active Hours setting."
Sadly, and frustratingly, this aligns best with my experience. Aside from those two while-in-use automatic reboots, all of the Windows 10 systems in my home or office have only had updates installed via manual reboot, monthly. While I know I represent a small sample size, I'm talking about 10 machines; 10 Windows 10 installs, some Home, some Pro; and I've had the same experience across the board.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
It's not common, but I've had it happen twice, on two different machines, running two different editions (Home and Pro). I've also seen numerous live broadcasts interrupted by it, the first of which came less than a week after launch (why they upgraded so soon, I do not know). The two incidents I've witnessed firsthand were both within the last 6 months and occurred not only during my configured Active Hours, but while I was actively typing.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
By the look of it, https://ardour.org/ is a full multi track recordiing studio while http://www.audacityteam.org/ is a simple wave file editor. There is no comparrison. It is like comparing Photoshop to Paint. Audacity should have given up years ago, especially considering their bar was set so low. It only ever barely worked on OSX.
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Then everyone should set their settings up correctly and quit bitching about their system updating while they are doing work.
You have to understand, ezelkow1, that it is apparently fashionable these days to live in the 'Alternate Facts' world! ;-)
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Never happened to me, are you sure you have the right timezone setting ? My desktop always reboots overnight when I'm not at the machine.
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The clock on the machine displays the correct time. Even if I had my time zone wrong (which I don't; Windows actually defaults to the correct time zone for me, as I share a time zone with MS), it should be using what it believes to be local time (e.g. the time it displays). Thanks for insinuating that I'm a friggin' idiot, while making it obvious that you ain't so bright yourself. :)
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
Note: We'll check to see if you're using this device before attempting to restart.
Time shouldn't matter if I'm actively typing.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.