Slashdot Mirror


Ubuntu Linux 17.04 'Zesty Zapus' Final Beta Now Available For Download (betanews.com)

BrianFagioli writes: The final beta of Ubuntu 17.04 'Zesty Zapus' became available for download Thursday. While it is never a good idea to run pre-release software on production machines, Canonical is claiming that it should be largely bug free at this point. In other words, if you understand the risks, it should be a fairly safe. Home users aside, this is a good opportunity for administrators to conduct testing prior to the official release next month.

"The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce the final beta release of the Ubuntu 17.04 Desktop, Server, and Cloud products. Codenamed 'Zesty Zapus', 17.04 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution," says Adam Conrad, Canonical. "The team has been hard at work through this cycle, introducing new features and fixing bugs."

55 of 113 comments (clear)

  1. So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by dwywit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's the next naming scheme?

    --
    They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
    1. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would be fine with numbers. 18.04, 18.10, so on.

    2. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hope it's something that doesn't sound retarded so I can finally talk to my boss about Linux.

      --
      #DeleteFacebook
    3. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

      Names are less vulnerable to single-char typos. 17.04 is one char (and physically one key) away from 18.04. Also, it is easier to search for things related to your distro using google if you use the name (since google will struggle to grasp the context for each number you use).

      --
      John_Chalisque
    4. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      ubuntu 12.04 apache conf (or whatever) works perfectly. At lest its obvious what is new and what is old, with numbers.

    5. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by arobatino · · Score: 1

      It should work fine with quotes (for example search for "ubuntu 18.04", including quotes) as long as there are no typos.

    6. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Vista? Snow Leopard? I can understand names that are groan-worthy like GIMP, but the rest doesn't sound worse than NFL teams. Besides they have official release numbers, if you say Ubuntu 17.04 you don't have to call it "Zesty Zepus". If he should care enough to find it and ask, then "Yeah the developers have a nickname for each release, easier for the techs. For everyone else it's Ubuntu, just like Windows or OS X". If that's the excuse your boss would use it's because he doesn't like it for some other reason.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    7. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by Kjella · · Score: 1

      It should work fine with quotes (for example search for "ubuntu 18.04", including quotes) as long as there are no typos.

      If people typed that out fully when they ask yes, but on an Ubuntu forum that would be extremely redundant and "18.04" triggers on everything to do with 18th of April and other junk. The nice part about the nicknames is that if I say zesty and the page contains ubuntu somewhere, you've probably come to the right place even if they're not right next to each other. They should try to keep them short and simple tho. Like:

      artsy, burly, curly, dandy, earthy, frisky, gaunt, humble, innate, jolly, keen, livid, murky, narly, overt, puffy, queezy, rocky, sweet, tasty, unique, vaunty, wobbly, x... can't really think of any. But I think that's enough for another decade.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    8. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I'd me more interested if you actually had a delicious doughnut.

      --
      Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
    9. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by WoLpH · · Score: 2

      I assumed it was base64, in which case we still have quite a few characters to go. Perhaps less if we don't consider case, but still :)

    10. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Accessible Arsehole

    11. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by lucm · · Score: 1

      I hope it's something that doesn't sound retarded so I can finally talk to my boss about Linux.

      Or do him a solid and suggest to use Red Hat like real companies do.

      --
      lucm, indeed.
    12. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by lucm · · Score: 1

      Using Ubuntu is like ordering a mocha at Starbucks; if you don't like coffee, just get a hot chocolate and move on.

      If you want a Debian, use Debian; if you want a retarded UI, use a Mac. There's no point in going halfsies.

      --
      lucm, indeed.
    13. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      I was thinking Aaron Aardvark.

    14. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      They'll switch to Cyrillic for one more run.

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    15. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by UnixUnix · · Score: 1

      Aavid Aardvark

    16. Re:So, they've reached the end of the alphabet by quenda · · Score: 1

      Might as well switch from animals to vegetables.

      Anoxic artichoke, blushing beetroot, cross-dressing cabbage, ...

  2. "Final beta" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    stop using these oxymorons, and things like "pre-alpha-release-candidate" and what not. It's either a beta, or a final.

    1. Re:"Final beta" by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      There are multiple scheduled Beta releases. This is the last one. The only things left will be release candidates and the final release.

      --
      This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
  3. Understanding the risks does not make it safer by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2

    In other words, if you understand the risks, it should be a fairly safe.

    No: if you understand the risks then you won't run anything mission critical on it, but it won't make it less prone to break. Breakage is unlikely to come because you stress it, more by exposure to some unusual edge case.

    I suppose: if you do really understand it you might be in a better position to repair it and dig yourself out of a hole.

    1. Re:Understanding the risks does not make it safer by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

      Stick it on a spare machine, try your mission critical software with test data, see what's different, and what breaks. In any case, you should be asking why you're investigating a non-LTS release for serious stuff, and indeed why you're bothering with Ubuntu at all for serious stuff.

      --
      John_Chalisque
    2. Re:Understanding the risks does not make it safer by somenickname · · Score: 1

      I think anyone who has been using Ubuntu for anything mission critical has been ignoring the non-LTS releases for years now. If you want to put Ubuntu on a toy, grab the latest release. If you want to put it on a real machine, grab an LTS release that is at least 6 months old.

  4. Meh, by messymerry · · Score: 1

    I think I will go have a MINT...

    --
    Dear Microlimp: I give you 2 valid product keys for win7 and you reject both of them. Piss off you wankers!!!
    1. Re:Meh, by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      at the very least, a mate or cinnamon desktop.

      those fucking stoopid ubuntu term window scrollbars. dammit. after all these years, they still continue to force that on users. damn.

      --

      --
      "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  5. Beta testing by danbuter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to alpha and beta test Ubuntu releases. It can be fun, especially if you have a spare computer with nothing critical on it. I did help find some issues back in the day, that got fixed before release. It felt good. If you have any skills, it can be a cool experience to try.

  6. Let's get it started by mattwarden · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ubuntu is the best distribution for all use cases and user knowledge levels. The addition of systemd really kicked things up even another notch.

    You may begin...

    1. Re:Let's get it started by fisted · · Score: 1

      Tried Ubuntu server, couldn't RDP to the machine. 0/10 would not purchase again.

    2. Re: Let's get it started by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Dude, I just returned my Windows 10 laptop for the same reason!

      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    3. Re:Let's get it started by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

      And once it has moved to Mir, all those other Linux distros won't even be properly compatible with the industry standard Ubuntu setup. [ ducks ]

      --
      John_Chalisque
    4. Re:Let's get it started by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Tried Ubuntu server, couldn't RDP to the machine. 0/10 would not purchase again.

      sudo apt-get install ubuntu-xfce4 xrdp

      Even jokes are one line fixes in Ubuntu :-)

    5. Re:Let's get it started by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I hope they don't put you in a BSD jail...

    6. Re:Let's get it started by basecastula+ · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing the last "pkg" is where you would place the package you want to download and install. Based on the fact that you installed pkg with the line you used.

    7. Re:Let's get it started by lucm · · Score: 1

      As a linux user and an anti-fan of systemd, I thought I'd give FreeBSD a try - it's been years since I last gave any BSD a go.
      [...]
      So, first thing I try and do gives an unGoogle-able error message. That's enough playing about, I'll try a BSD again in a few more years.

      We've all been there... Next on your list should be: installing Slackware on a brand new ultrabook that has no ethernet adapter.

      --
      lucm, indeed.
    8. Re:Let's get it started by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anything is a one-line fix in *IX, given enough semicolons and slashes.

      --sf

    9. Re: Let's get it started by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

      From ftp.freebsd.org...

    10. Re:Let's get it started by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      $ wget Fedora-Live.iso
      --2017-03-26 12:52:12-- http://fedora-live.iso/
      Resolving fedora-live.iso (fedora-live.iso)... failed: Name or service not known.
      wget: unable to resolve host address ‘fedora-live.iso’

  7. Pretty solid by Ramze · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been running Zesty for over a month in VMs and on bare metal with no serious issues. I had one bug that threw an error message on startup several weeks ago, but it was patched within a few days... and the bug didn't seem to affect anything. I don't use the default DE, though -- I use Cinnamon, so ymmv with Unity.

    My only issues with Zesty are the same as I have with previous releases. Running IPv6 as dual stack with IPv4 is more complicated than it should be... the Gnome network manager doesn't understand IPv6 DNS addresses so it displays part of them as an IPv4 address instead, and samba occasionally flakes out and doesn't see my windows shares, yet will map to them if I run a script to do so (I don't know what's going on there... master browser issue perhaps, but... doubt it!)

    I really can't see much of a change from 16.04 LTS or 16.10, but it runs well, and I have no serious complaints. I've upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10 to 17.04 beta without anything breaking, but If your 16.04 works for your hardware and has repos for your software, you may want to stick with it 'til the next LTS. There's no significant changes in this one to convince me it's a must-have. Maybe the next LTS release if it has more Mir or Wayland support and Vulkan drivers.

  8. Re:"Final Beta"? by F.Ultra · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why would that be so hard to understand?

    The Ubuntu release schedule is and have always been:

    • * FeatureDefinition Freeze
    • * Alpha 1
    • * Alpha 2
    • * Feature Freeze
    • * Beta 1
    • * Final Beta
    • * Release Candidate
    • * Final Release
  9. Re:If you want to be taken seriously by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

    Not once has my Ubuntu installation ever displayed the animal nickname. In fact, I'm running 16.04 and I don't even know what the nickname for it is.

    Also, MacOS uses animal nicknames more prominently and confusingly and both MacOS and Windows have confusing version numbering (OS X makes it look like there's only been minor revisions for decades, and Windows has no clue how to count and changes the whole scheme repeatedly).

    --
    This space intentionally left blank
  10. Re:If you want to be taken seriously by dbreeze · · Score: 1

    You're absolutely backwards AC. I don't care what goofy assed naming convention or garish boot/login splash is used as long as the system is stable, fast, configurable, and suited to my needs. Likewise, I don't care how noble and "professional" the name or logo appears if I've got to reboot lock-ups, schedule coffee breaks for wait periods, and only get to do what the OS's developer decided I needed to do my work.

    As always, you're the problem AC...

    --
    When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
  11. I looked up Mir and I'm Skeptical by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    Title: 'Mir will cause fragmentation in Linux on desktop' - (You be the judge and tell me if I'm wrong.) I personally like Ubuntu and am worried about this step they are taking. https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir...

  12. phail by lucm · · Score: 1

    So they have Alpha 2 but no Final Alpha, and they have a Final Beta but not Beta 2. How hard is it to have a minimum of consistency in a release schedule?

    Did they choose this scheme to annoy aspies, or are they just that nonchalant and careless? Oh wait, I've tried Ubuntu so I know the answer.

    --
    lucm, indeed.
    1. Re:phail by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2

      I once worked at a small company that had "conference room A" and "conference room 2", so everyone called them "Little Joe" and "Big Hoss" to avoid confusion.

      --
      This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
    2. Re:phail by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      It's because they have no freeze periods during the Alpha stages, the 'Final' prefix is there to mark that it's the Final Beta Freeze and Final Release Freeze.

  13. Re:I feel bad for the less fortunate... by Raenex · · Score: 1

    Steve Jobs is dead. You can step out of the reality distortion field.

  14. Next one? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Anxious Albatross?

    --
    When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    1. Re:Next one? by John.Banister · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Next one? by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Aardvark is the only one I know of.

  15. Re:So, they've not reached the end of the alphabet by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

    They're nowhere near the end. There's at least twenty more letters if you go On Beyond Zebra!

    --
    Good, inexpensive web hosting
  16. Server and Desktop for me by Britz · · Score: 1

    I don't know if it is still the case, but as little as three years ago I tested various Linux distros for someone else to run on a laptop computer. Stuff that is easy to run and easy to update. I wanted to try OpenSuse. It kinda failed me in that it had obvious bugs. Too many of them. Bugs that could be fixed and all (Linux), but nothing an end user should see. I tried a couple other ones, but in the end, Ubuntu proved to be what it has been for more than a decade: A true Linux for end users. Since I prefer KDE I went with Kubuntu.

    Then last year, LXD became the perfect solution for one of my personal user cases. I have been running Xenial ever since (btw. shoutout to Stephane Graber, one of the major driving forces behind lxd), even though I have been a 100% Debian guy for almost two decades now.

    I don't know about embedded, but I heard they put something out for smartphones that was pretty rad.

    And yes, Ubuntu wouldn't be possible without Debian. I am typing this on a Debian machine, of course.

  17. Re:If you want to be taken seriously by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess the latest release is already old... $ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 16.10 \n \l And which exactly is the animal name here? DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=16.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=yakkety DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.10"

    --
    My first program:

    Hell Segmentation fault

  18. Lubuntyu and LXQt by zoward · · Score: 1

    Will Lubuntu finally switch over to LXQt? It's been ages since they announced this, and I'm curious to see if it's better than Debian's version of LXQt...

    --
    "Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?"
  19. Re:If you want to be taken seriously by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    I don't care what goofy assed naming convention or garish boot/login splash is used as long as the system is stable, fast, configurable, and suited to my needs,

    well obviously you are not an ubuntu user

  20. Are Mousekeys still buggy? by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

    As a person who ensures his hands' health, I have to ask, did they finally fix the bugs with mousekeys?

    The Bugs are:
    1) Sensitivity only be configured through command-line.
    2) If you switch a mouse button the speed settings are lost and you need to run xkbset again).

  21. SystemD by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Until gnome 2 and upstart is back I will stick with Ubuntu 12.04. The best version and last usuable and Ubuntu extended support too. Join us and we can teach cannoical a lesson if we don't cave in