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Apple Will Ship A Pro iMac Later This Year, It Won't Feature Touchscreen (buzzfeed.com)
Apple's expected update to its iMac line will arrive later this year with some previously unexpected additions: pro models. From a report: "We have big plans for the iMac," Phil Schiller, Apple's SVP of worldwide marketing, said during a recent reporter roundtable at the company's Machine Shop hardware prototyping lab. "We're going to begin making configurations of iMac specifically with the pro customer in mind." Just what those configurations will entail, Apple won't yet say. Nor will it comment on the possibility of an iMac Pro moniker for the more powerful machines in the lineup. Company executives are, however, quite happy to confirm a feature the pro iMac will not have: touchscreen. "No," Schiller said when asked if Apple would consider building such a thing. "Touch doesn't even register on the list of things pro users are interested in talking about. They're interested in things like performance and storage and expandability."
5 year old hardware, or just 4 year old hardware?
So they neglect Mac Pro for years(focused on performance & stuff) then they end up making a faster version of the consumer product iMac?
Apple will make you use dongles and raise the price for their toy Macs. Real (PowerPC) Macs have been out of production for a decade.
Since Microsoft copies everything Apple do, perhaps they will stop trying to turn their OSs into mobile phones now. Although I'm sure they will find a new way to screw up their next OS.
Apple has a serious problem with storage on MBP. For their price points they should start at 512, with 1T being the norm and all lines having a slight increase to access 2T. If iMac is going to be like MBP why would anyone care?
The iMac is for people who want to have a "premium" experience checking their email and watching cat videos.
Jobs died and so did the Vision at Apple. Jobs had the Vision of what Apple was. Now they wander around with no clue as to what kind of company they are, coasting on momentum. I wonder sometimes if the people running Apple use Windows 10 on their Macs.
No trackpoint. Still.
Pass.
I'm hoping they put in really BEEFY GPU options...I want a new iMac to work on pictures, video editing and with Davinci Resolve, which is a resource BEAST...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
"[...] the list of things pro users are interested in talking about. They're interested in things like performance and storage and expandability."
Uhmm... If they knew all along, I'd like to hear him explain the latest MacBook Pro model.
I'm really looking forward to running Aperture on one of these new Pro iMacs!
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"Tasks that previously would have required the Mac Pros of old are now being well addressed by today’s iMac."
And creative tasks that require a high-end machine, where once creative pros would turn to Mac Pros, are now being well addressed by high-end Windows workstations, that, you know, allow newer CPUs than Sandy Bridge.
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The iMac is really cool, sleek, pretty, minimal, yeah... but many pros I know already have monitors they like. How about a little love for their other desktops (mini and Pro)! I'd also wager that most "pros" aren't, in general, people with white offices and squeaky clean desks on which art-like computers sit.
And keep your confounded sticky fingers off my screen!
Otherwise, yeah, a long-time Mac user drifting away from the fold. Then again, there aren't many systems left that aren't larded with proprietary sh** that fubars something in Linux. And Windows is not to be abided.
... grumble, grumble, grumble, mutter, mutter, Millenium... Hand... Shrimp, I tol' 'em, I tol' 'em.
A "small" internal SSD is fine. Like 1TB. I would be running an external RAID encloure anyways. I can't see having less than 8TB for editing 4K videos anyway.
But what I REALLY would like was a workstation like the old Mac Pro. My late 2013 iMac runs OK(the big 4gb graphics card and fastest cpu) still but it bothers me that I have to replace everything, including the screen. I can extend the life of it now that I make more and more in 4K by getting a faster external RAID.
So what I think what I will do is that I will build a 8 core hackintosh workstation so that I can get a proper workstation to run FCP X on now that Apple don't make one and haven't done for some time.
They want to sell less for more...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
"Apple Will Ship a Pro iMac"
vs.
"Nor will it comment on the possibility of an iMac Pro moniker"
Not gonna click the link to RTFA because BuzzFeed.
Apple? Expandability?? LMAO!
Does that mean it will have an upgradable SSD and RAM? Or does that mean it will have lots of (expensive) adaptors so it can charge a big ipad and iphone?
Actually, my Linux Mint's are just running well, yesterday I needed to scan some documents, so a picked up from basement my old Canon LED USB scanner that is not working on OSX anymore, no drivers. Connected to the Mint and in like 5 seconds I was burning documents using it, no pain, no drivers to install, nothing. EAT that Apple & Microsoft!
Wake me when they release a standard Pro tower not this garbage can!
I sometimes spend 2-3 hours playing games with hands constantly moving in the air. Don't understand what's up with Apple's claims that an occasional swipe on the screen will immediatelly make people collapse with exhaustion. Trackpad will still be there, even make it a second screen if you want to be fancy.
I understand the objection when technology was poor quality or for budget devices. But now Apple is just being obnoxious.
Touch screen does not even register on Apple's list of features? Apple really needs to get out of their ivory iPhone tower and see what is being sold on todays computers......
Unless it comes with 80 PCI-E lanes, it doesn't deserve the name.
In my opinion, the real gap in Apple's lineup isn't "an iMac with more professional features," but instead "a consumer-grade headless Mac that can be used for gaming." I really don't understand why they won't make one.
They could release a small upgradable tower, which I'm sure a lot of people would like. They're not going to, though. That's not Apple's style. However, they could make a more consumer-grade Mac Pro, running a single Core i5/i7 processors instead of Xeon processors and a single Nvidia 1060/1070/1080 instead of dual AMD Fire Pro cards. Drop all the hardware down a peg from workstation-grade to consumer-grade, and drop the price to reflect that. I think you'd have a system a lot of people would buy.
Or if you don't want to do that, just make bigger version of a Mac mini that can hold a laptop-grade Nvidia CPU instead of using Intel's chips. Maybe something vaguely in the class of an Alienware Alpha. Hell, just cram a discrete GPU into one of the existing Mac mini lineups. They used to do that, and I suspect they could overcome any technical challenges if they wanted to. They put discrete GPUs into the 15" Macbook Pros.
Some people may point out that there aren't as many games for macOS as there are for Windows, which is true. However developers might be more inclined to create Mac ports if there were gamers using Macs, which might be more likely if there were Macs with appropriate gaming hardware. And even ignoring that idea, you could always set up a dual boot into Windows for gaming on a Mac, if you had hardware appropriate for gaming.
No. This is /. News for corporate whores. This fits right in.
Once, long ago..., Slashdot was a place of serious programmers. They were interested in the philosophy of open source programming. They were committed to the development of good open source software, of promoting its use and development. They were interested in the technical challenges that it's development created, and they discussed the various facets of the issues involving open source software. Now...now there are only people like us discussing the latest Mac! Ha ha ha ha! We've destroyed them ALL! We've RUINED THEIR WEBSITE! HA HA HA HA HA! BWAHAHAHA!
Apple's tendency to withhold 'features' available elsewhere in the market because they're NIH or defeat some other aesthetic (like fingerprints so often do) is gonna but them with touch. John Q. Appleseed will walk up and pinch to zoom, then not apologize because he knows fingerprints ruin the sublime compute environment Apple have graciously provided.
Both of them use the keyboards and ignore touch.
Every single Surface pro I see used is used with the keyboard and they use the trackpoint spot on the keyboard cover. When I had the Surface Pro I tried to use the touchscreen. It's pretty darn useless if you are doing any real work.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
It's still early to tell if Surface Studio is a good idea yet. Seems like it would be a good fit for photo and video editing. But I imagine getting people to give it a chance will be the biggest obstacle.
The old Mac Pro (4U aluminum chassis) had:
- Four drive bays, and you could get an aftermarket tray to add SSDs/
- Easy RAM upgrade
- Interchangeable GPU(s) -- it would take nVidia or ATI boards.
- Two network drops
The "replacement" Pro garbage can had stuff soldered in place, no upgrade option for GPU and a form factor that didn't allow upgrades, in addition to being abhorrently expensive and never updated. Not to mention having to do simple things like expand hard drive space with daisy chained expensive Thunderbolt stuff strung together like Christmas lights. I remember the mocking Jeff Goldblum Apple ad asking if PC stood for "Perpetually Cabled". In the old system you could keep all that stuff internal and using PCI, which was still faster.
When we retired the old Pros, we replaced them with MacBookPros -- the garbage can just priced itself out of contention, and into the realm of "can we do the same thing Linux or Windows instead, since that garbage can is now more expensive than some really decent servers we bought recently"
and in the past apple tryed to push gaming but the only really good systems where the high imac or the old mac pro with a 3rd party video card.
e-net $30 more 10-gig-e $100 from apple and it uses the TB3 bus.
Both of them use the keyboards and ignore touch.
Every single Surface pro I see used is used with the keyboard and they use the trackpoint spot on the keyboard cover. When I had the Surface Pro I tried to use the touchscreen. It's pretty darn useless if you are doing any real work.
And yet, with all the Surface commercials, it's ALL they advertise...
They're interested in things like performance and storage and expandability.
Not doing too well on that front after they switched to the trashcan.
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The Pro sure, make it upgradable.
I've been using 27" iMacs at work for the last 3 years, never felt the need to upgrade whats inside - probably because we get the spec we want when ordering? vs being a cheap skate and stuffing 3rd party bits into it later :-). 5K, i7 4GHz, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM - I think it'll be fine for 3 years, then its written off by the company I take it home, and I get to order a new one.
if you dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bullshit
if you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bullshit
Well, they still haven't gotten over losing the tablet war. They see millions using their iPads and Android tablets and figure that being able to touch stuff is the killer feature. They never seem to get that making a UI that people can and want to touch is where the real magic lies.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
As usual, this is pure propaganda bs! The machine is junk, very very expensive junk and the marshable "article" is actually a paid one. Slashdot is not that informative venue once was... it is ALL commerce. Cant trust it.
So ironic....after the recent release of MacBook Pro, this is what Phil says:
"Touch doesn't even register on the list of things pro users are interested in talking about. They're interested in things like performance and storage and expandabilit
Apple fangirls out in full force, what is this a tech blog.
Touchscreens are on a vertical display are an ergonomic nightmare - there are dozens of studies, papers, etc. (just take a look at the ISO Ergonomic standards - there are hundreds of them) that show these are the surest way to both temporary and permanent damage if it's a high repetitive, extended use application. This is why the iPad and TrackPad the primary "touch" focus interfaces: they are typically used near horizontal or low angle of elevation which has radically different ergonomics.
All people wanting touch screens are ignorant of basic scientific/engineering facts about ergonomics.
Don't forget, on some revisions, the two SATA ports in the optical bays too - I have an SSD plugged in there. Those aftermarket trays were interesting, but I always found them to be way more expensive than I could justify.