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Spotify Executive Chris Bevington Dies In Stockholm Attack (variety.com)

"On Friday, four people were killed and about 15 more were injured when a truck plowed through a shopping area in the heart of Sweden's capital," reports Variety. One of the four victims was Chris Bevington, an executive at Spotify. An anonymous reader writes: "The British 41-year-old had served as Spotify's director of global partnerships/business development, working from Stockholm," reports Variety. The streaming service's founder, Daniel Ek, confirmed the news with a Facebook post on Sunday. "Chris has been a member of our band for over five years. He has had a great impact on not just the business but on everyone who had the privilege to know and work with him. There are no words for how missed he will be or for how sad we all are to have lost him like this."

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  1. Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    But how the heck did the jihadi know there was a Spotify exec there? Did he have assistance and if so was it CIA, Russian hackers, or Allah? The plot thickens...

    1. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jay Z just pulled all his music from Spotify, it's clearly some sort of conspiracy.

    2. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jay Z is a muslim wanna be

    3. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It is well known that most misery in the world is caused by muslims. But just why are muslims the mortal enemy of decency and civilisation? Simple. Look to their genes.

      Genetically muslims are largely of Negro ancestry. If you take the time to observe the police mug shots of your typical muslim you will notice the wide flared nostrils, negroid "liver" lips, negroid eyes in shape and coloration, and lazy "sleepy" drooping eyelids. Generally a muslim's skin is slightly lighter than a "chocolate drop" Negro, but nonetheless, a brown color usually associated with the Negro race. Both the muslim, and its darker kin have their roots in the African continent.

      Also notice the obvious genetic mutations on most muslims--peculiar malformed ears, oddly shaped skulls, asymmetric arrangement of the facial features. Most muslims are inbred. Not just within their "religion" but within their "tribe". When these symptoms and deformities are observed among ordinary non-muslim humans, it is generally a sign of some sort of genetic defect or mental retardation. Take a moment to study the features of the 9/11 hijackers, and it is patently obvious that these animals all exhibit the classic muslim deformities.

      Muslim tribes are composed of groups of 50 to 100 individuals who share a common name and genetic heritage. All marriage occurs from within these muslim tribes, i.e. intra-marriage, and is between first cousins. However, under some circumstances in muslim tradition, it's even allowable for a mother to marry her son, or a father to marry his daughter, as shocking and as alien as that may be to the non-muslim world.

      Although in civilized societies marriage of this kind has long been outlawed, within the muslim world marriage between first cousins is the norm. This only compounds the basic genetic defects of the muslim race. And like all compound interest, the effects of the compounding over generation after generation serve to amplify the deformities. In effect a genetic monster, both mental and physical, has been created. The muslim is a deformed beast more suitable for the Island of Dr. Moreau, than a being fit for human society.

      Can a muslim change its barbarism? Can a leopard change its spots? It's in the genes, stupid!

    4. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can a muslim change its barbarism? Can a leopard change its spots?

      An octopus can edit its RNA. Is that close enough?

    5. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is a Muslim an octopus?

    6. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We all are... But they were kicked out of the garden.

      Hey Slashdot! How do the spammers get around your posting limits so easily??

    7. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just think what you could achieve if you weren't obsessed with Muslims.

    8. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is well known that most misery in the world is caused by muslims. But just why are muslims the mortal enemy of decency and civilisation? Simple. Look to their genes.

      Genetically muslims are largely of Negro ancestry. If you take the time to observe the police mug shots of your typical muslim you will notice the wide flared nostrils, negroid "liver" lips, negroid eyes in shape and coloration, and lazy "sleepy" drooping eyelids. Generally a muslim's skin is slightly lighter than a "chocolate drop" Negro, but nonetheless, a brown color usually associated with the Negro race. Both the muslim, and its darker kin have their roots in the African continent.

      Also notice the obvious genetic mutations on most muslims--peculiar malformed ears, oddly shaped skulls, asymmetric arrangement of the facial features. Most muslims are inbred. Not just within their "religion" but within their "tribe". When these symptoms and deformities are observed among ordinary non-muslim humans, it is generally a sign of some sort of genetic defect or mental retardation. Take a moment to study the features of the 9/11 hijackers, and it is patently obvious that these animals all exhibit the classic muslim deformities.

      Muslim tribes are composed of groups of 50 to 100 individuals who share a common name and genetic heritage. All marriage occurs from within these muslim tribes, i.e. intra-marriage, and is between first cousins. However, under some circumstances in muslim tradition, it's even allowable for a mother to marry her son, or a father to marry his daughter, as shocking and as alien as that may be to the non-muslim world.

      Although in civilized societies marriage of this kind has long been outlawed, within the muslim world marriage between first cousins is the norm. This only compounds the basic genetic defects of the muslim race. And like all compound interest, the effects of the compounding over generation after generation serve to amplify the deformities. In effect a genetic monster, both mental and physical, has been created. The muslim is a deformed beast more suitable for the Island of Dr. Moreau, than a being fit for human society.

      Can a muslim change its barbarism? Can a leopard change its spots? It's in the genes, stupid!

      I would like to to be a guest speaker at our Bund. Don't forget to wear a brown shirt.

      Jack boots are optional but will definitely make an impression with our other guest speakers J Mengele and J Goebbels.

      Yours faithfully A Hitler.

    9. Re:Muslims hate music by Joce640k · · Score: 0

      Don't forget that Baby Jesus was a hook-nosed Ay-rab.

      (unless you think that Bethlehem was the 51st American state 2000 years ago).

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    10. Re:Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inconveniently, muslims were Nazi *allies* during WW2.

    11. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslims colluded with the Nazis, excited for the opportunity to abuse and kill non-believers. Your attempt at drawing a line between those who are against them and Nazis falls pathetically and hilariously flat.

      It's 2017 and we are fighting the Nazis still. They just killed a bunch of people in Sweden, bombed a church in Egypt, and raped more children in Syria.

    12. Re:Muslims hate music by arth1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It is well known that most misery in the world is caused by muslims.

      No, it isn't.
      I'd say that "men" and "corporations" go much higher on that list. And I see no indication that Islam causes more misery than other Abrahamic religions; i.e. plenty of misery for all of them.
      Seen from an outside perspective, they're all just minor variations on a theme.

      Can a muslim change its barbarism? Can a leopard change its spots? It's in the genes, stupid!

      Faith is genetic?

      The propensity for faith might be genetic. There might have been benefits in humanity's distant path, where subjecting to authority and taking what they said at face value no matter what increased survival. It may be linked to how children for the first few years believe their parents, even when they say strange things like that a tiny little insect can cause you lots of harm, or that you shouldn't touch the beautiful red sparkles.
      There are a significant number of people who either never get to the point where they question what their parents taught them, or don't stop being gullible. That may be genetic.
      But which superstitions people are afflicted with is not written in the genes. Whether you go postal at an abortion clinic, shoot kids who throw rocks at your tank, strap on a suicide belt, or mutilate newborns appears to be more a result of geography.

    13. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kick out all the fucking Muslims. Even the peaceful ones are bombs waiting to go off.

    14. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are fucking insane.

      We're commenting on an article about a man killed by a Muslim extremist, acting out the screed of his death-worship cult.

      Islam is a violent and oppressive ideology, which instructs followers to kill anyone who tries to leave, and enslave anyone who won't convert.

      The other Abrahamic religions have no such imperatives, and are not instructed by modern interpretation to kill non-believers. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims who believe DEATH is the appropriate response to speech against Islam. You will find no such support for that barbarism in any other belief system outside of fringe cults.

      But you already know this. You feign ignorance either because you condone it, or are brainwashed to not see it for what it is: Genocide.

    15. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jew.

    16. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Never read the Quran or Islamic scriptures,
      Only psalms I read was on the arms of my niggas" - jay z

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Jay-z-intro-lyrics

    17. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah - but that could have so many meanings!

    18. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bethlehem is in rural Pennsylvania.

    19. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes, I see now.... It's all becoming clear.

    20. Re: Muslims hate music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is christianity...

      I think the issue with Islam is that it has not "grown up"... Christianity was as violent just a few hundred years ago.. What happed with christianity was that it stopped taking the bible word for word and people started ignoring the parts they did not agree with...
      Issue with the Koran is that it's supposed to have been written by Mohammed by direction of god making all types of criticism impossible...

      Most muslims are good, but you still have quite a few percent of them still adhering to the strict wording of the koran, and that is the problem.

      As a side-note... it's quite interesting that it does not matter if you ask a christian or muslim about if something is allowed by their respective holy-book.. Most of them have no clue to "they where told" what it says...

      Feel free to believe in what you want, as long as it does not cause harm to others, and that includes brainwashing your kids. (or brainwashing your followers if you are a priest, imam or whatever it may be called in your religion)

  2. Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    His death can be directly attributed to our leftish governments politics. Letting hoards of violent persons into our country under the demise "refugees welcome". Its making me sick. Our police force lacks 10.000 men. Our socialist government is letting this happen. They have blood on their hands

    1. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You are missing 10000 policeman, and you are letting violent thugs into the country. The problem suggests the solution...

    2. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is why we will go to the UK in the future, but avoid Sweden and the invaded territory of Europe. They have made themselves into a violent third world shithole and committed suicide.

    3. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      make the refugees police and let them enforce sharia law?

    4. Re:Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      In retrospect, you have to admit Hitler was on to something. Whatever else he might have done, at least he didn't hand his country out from under the feet of his people and hand it over to hostile invaders. If you have to choose between leftists and Hitler, take Hitler. At least Europe survived Hitler. Whether it survives Enlightened Progressives remains to be seen.

    5. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sharia law is not as bad as you think. If you rape a woman she gets stoned! Sounds like a good deal to me.

    6. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "hordes". And I have no idea what you mean by "demise".

    8. Re:Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Basically Hitler had the right idea. But he was unable to execute it properly. In my opinion he should have formed a coalition of European countries to completely "cleanse" Africa, from top to bottom, from Cairo to Capetown. Then after Africa was cleansed he should have repopulated it with Europeans. That is where the real Lebensraum was to be found.

    9. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, who said anything about rocks?

    10. Re:Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a lost opportunity...really sad when you think about the lost possibilities.

    11. Re: Leftisy government by XparXnoiaX · · Score: 1

      You did, "getting stoned" means crack rocks of course

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    12. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No surprise there. Somebody needs to drive a wooden stake through that old vampire's heart.

      Every. Single. Time.

    13. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Presumably the intended word was "premise"

    14. Re: Leftisy government by muffen · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are right, so to reduce the rape stats, we should look at the countries with the lowest amount of rapes per capita, and learn from them. The bottom three are Saudi Arabia, India and Egypt.

      Sweden's high stats are because everything counts as rape, even things that in some countries aren't even crimes. Also, if the act is repeated, then it's counted twice. There have been cases where the same person (often in couples or married) where charged with 50 counts of rape. Finally, in Sweden, everything possible is done to make sure rapes are reported.

    15. Re: Leftisy government by lucm · · Score: 0

      You are right, so to reduce the rape stats, we should look at the countries with the lowest amount of rapes per capita, and learn from them. The bottom three are Saudi Arabia, India and Egypt.

      Maybe. Saudi Arabia has 10 murders per million people; the USA has 42. They have 3 robberies per 100,000 people; the USA has 146.

      You may not like their religion or political system, but "Saudi Arabia" is not an insult. The world is a mosaic, pal.

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    16. Re:Leftisy government by donaldm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fucking piece of shit Slashdot. I have five moderation points and used three of them to mod "politically incorrect" posts +1; insightful and then I wrote a post explaining that posted as AC and the damn site instantly removed my moderation. It used to ask (I don't use preview because it's not my fucking task to HTML format the text, manage links or do å, ä or ö. The incompetent people at Slashdot should had fixed their shit like ten years ago.) So now I have a shit-post and didn't helped saved your comments and I can't moderate anything more in the thread thanks to that shit-post. Thank you fucking POS /..

      You must be new to moderation if you did not know that you can't moderate on a topic if you are also commenting on that topic. This policy has been in force since Slashdot allowed moderators. If you are moderating and wish to comment you can always post as an Anonymous Coward or have a separate account.

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    17. Re: Leftisy government by Megol · · Score: 1

      No. For several reasons: Sweden have a different definition of rape than many other countries, there is no social stigma in reporting a rape unlike many countries and the legal system have to handle any (substantial) claims of criminal activity even if the victim doesn't seek help themselves.

      IOW the rape rate in Sweden can't be directly compared to other countries and if compensated for then it is in the normal range of a western nation.

    18. Re: Leftisy government by muffen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You may not like their religion or political system, but "Saudi Arabia" is not an insult. The world is a mosaic, pal.

      Was never meant as an insult but rather to point out differences, as I don't think everything possible is being done in Saudi to get women to report rape, and since most things considered rape in Sweden aren't even crimes in Saudi, it wouldn't matter anyway.

      Sweden is extreme in the other direction, which results in high rape stats, but this is a good thing imho (that they are being reported and that the laws are the way they are).

    19. Re: Leftisy government by Megol · · Score: 1

      Sexual assault? The thing is that conditional consent fails when the condition fails. Just because two people consent to sex doesn't mean that one person starting to fuck the other while he/she is asleep isn't rape. Just because a girl consent to normal (vaginal) sex doesn't mean forcing a penis, finger or hand up their ass is okay.

      I admit that the case you are referring to is a bit of borderline but that's just it - not only was there one instance of the same thing happening, there were two closely timed instances indicating the person in question have a habit of doing it. That the person in question is a lying, slandering coward that tries to call an investigation into his activities political harassment and hides away (with ludicrous excuses) when realizing that what he have done is considered rape (and rightly so) really speaks for itself.

    20. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 per million is about the same figure as Sweden.

    21. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslims, whites, blacks (especially by Jew Soros) are being played to annihilate one another. Read this, think it over https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54205123/ for yourself and decide. No one proves it incorrect factually. The vidlink at the start of it really gives it away.

    22. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There could be a social stigma if you get raped by people of a certain ethnic group.

      Don't want to be called 'racist', after all.

    23. Re: Leftisy government by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Outlying incidents like this one notwithstanding, I'd much rather walk down a Stockholm street alone at 2AM than a street in any large US city alone at 2PM.

      And I'd much rather have my wife walk down a Stockholm street alone at 2AM than a street in any large US city alone at 2PM.

      (You do realise that you reveal yourself to be a complete moron by repeating such nonsense, right? Rhetorical question--you needn't bother answering.)

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    24. Re:Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever else he might have done, at least he didn't hand his country out from under the feet of his people and hand it over to hostile invaders.

      Please moderate parent Funny .

    25. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you get right down to it, muslims are the real problem.

    26. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > This is why we will go to the UK in the future

      There was a similar attack in London two weeks ago.

    27. Re:Leftisy government by johanw · · Score: 1

      Free Anders Breivik and let him deal with the problem.

    28. Re: Leftisy government by johanw · · Score: 1

      But remember, the swedes define a broken condom already as "rape". So it's easy to get the numbers high. Assange knows all about it. :-(

    29. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are fixing the problem. Sweden is running headlong for it, screaming racist at anyone who slows down.

    30. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it sure sounds like someone would be getting their rocks off.

    31. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay. Let's compare with historical rape stats of Sweden then.

      Oh, 87% increase in reported rapes over the last 5 years (SCI, Nov. 2016). Cool. Big fucking mystery why!

    32. Re: Leftisy government by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      The bottom three are Saudi Arabia, India and Egypt........

      Sweden's high stats are because everything counts as rape, even things that in some countries aren't even crimes.

      Indeed. In addition, which two countries are the kidnapping capitals of the world?

      Australia and Canada.

      Official figures from the United Nations show that there were 17 kidnaps per 100,000 people in Australia in 2010 and 12.7 in Canada.

      That compares with only 0.6 in Colombia and 1.1 in Mexico.

      The Julian Assange extradition case has put Sweden's relatively high incidence of rape under the spotlight. But can such statistics be reliably compared from one country to another?

    33. Re: Leftisy government by muffen · · Score: 1

      Okay. Let's compare with historical rape stats of Sweden then. Oh, 87% increase in reported rapes over the last 5 years (SCI, Nov. 2016). Cool. Big fucking mystery why!

      It's not a mystery, it's been reported time and time again, the definition of rape changed, but more importantly, each count of rape started to count as an individual offense, so in a marriage, there could be 100s of rapes happening between the same two people. This is what you were referring to right?

    34. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can choose the more dangerous situation in Sweden but you'd still be stupid for doing so.

      You realize that hundreds of millions walk US streets all day every day without any problems.

      This isn't (yet) a Muslim invaded shithole like many places in Europe where you can get run over by some psycho/Muslim (same thing) in broad daylight in the heart of the city.

      In the US our psycho Muslims tend to target gay night clubs and military bases leaving the average person alone, unraped and not run over.

      When your wife or daughter gets gang raped in Sweden by some Muslim barbarians how will you rationalize the crime was somehow the US/Bush/Trump's fault?

      That will be quite the feat of mental gymnastics.

    35. Re:Leftisy government by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I have five moderation points and used three of them to mod "politically incorrect" posts +1; insightful and then I wrote a post explaining that posted as AC and the damn site instantly removed my moderation.

      If you are moderating and wish to comment you can always post as an Anonymous Coward or have a separate account.

      Except that is what he did, he posted as AC (see bolded portion above) and still had his moderations removed. I knew that to be the case from hard experience as well, but they should advertise the fact that is not merely whether or not you are posting AC but also the IP address from where you are posting... which becomes interesting when you are behind your organization's proxy... did anyone else in my organization post while I was modding?

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    36. Re: Leftisy government by lgw · · Score: 0

      Most of the rapes in Sweden have been committed by recent immigrants, and this has been true for decades. Immigrants from north Africa are more that 20x as likely to commit rape as the average Swede.

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    37. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      St. Breivik, please pray for us.

    38. Re: Leftisy government by quax · · Score: 1

      That the person in question is a lying, slandering coward that tries to call an investigation into his activities political harassment and hides away (with ludicrous excuses) when realizing that what he have done is considered rape (and rightly so) really speaks for itself.
      True that.

    39. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, unicorns are 25x more likely to rape women with blue eyes than men from North Africa, and that has been true for the past 15 year (SFI 2016).

      Making up shit without any sources was really easy, but the resulting discussion is perhaps not the most interesting one.

    40. Re:Leftisy government by aliquise · · Score: 0

      You must be new to moderation if you did not know that you can't moderate on a topic if you are also commenting on that topic.

      My userid on that user is lower than yours. I'm not new to moderation.
      I posted the comment as AC. I could easily had logged out and commented as AC and still keep the moderation. I assumed / had the feelings that posting AC was enough to avoid it. Also I'm used to it always talking about how moderation will be removed but I never got any two step verification about how I wanted to post the post anyway. I just posted submit and there it was. Maybe because I had previewed it and put in a bunch of HTML tags into it and that usually is the verification step? I for obvious reasons don't read all the fluff text around the stuff I'm actively doing because reading all text on all pages such as the stuff above here would take a lot of time and it usually aren't relevant.

      If you are moderating and wish to comment you can always post as an Anonymous Coward

      I _DID_ post as Anonymous coward! That's the thing, https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54204315, as you can see I DID post as AC and yet it removed my three moderations.

    41. Re:Leftisy government by aliquise · · Score: 0

      Here's the actual post:
      https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
      .. as AC. For sure I did mention who I was in the post anyway because I have nothing against mentioning my name in it but I did post it as AC because I didn't wanted to undo the moderation and it happened anyway.

      If it's IP then that mean that one can lose the moderation done without even being informed about that being the fact? Stupid. But kinda everything around Slashdot is stupid.
      Turd-site for technologically interested SJWs, shit that doesn't matter.
      Edits? Deletes? UTF-8? WYSIWYG? Nah.

    42. Re: Leftisy government by lgw · · Score: 0

      Making up shit without any sources was really easy, but the resulting discussion is perhaps not the most interesting one.

      Those stats are compiled from 32 research papers. Newspaper article: https://archive.is/8AB3j (Google translate). This stuff is widely known, and many papers have been published.

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    43. Re: Leftisy government by stephenmac7 · · Score: 1

      I can't verify or deny that as far as Sweden specifically, but immigrants tend to be less violent than native populations, so Sweden stats would have to be substantially different from the US statistics for it to be true.

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    44. Re: Leftisy government by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Well we are legalizingâ weed...

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    45. Re: Leftisy government by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You are right, so to reduce the rape stats, we should look at the countries with the lowest amount of rapes per capita, and learn from them. The bottom three are Saudi Arabia, India and Egypt.

      Nice attempt of avoiding the subject and what's really happening:

      Importation of people who rape crazy-much relative Swedes.

      Sweden's high stats are because everything counts as rape

      No, Swedish rape statistics are high because women here may report a rape offence and rape is a crime in Sweden, but also Sweden import more rapist / capita then any other western nation by far and those aren't Swedes and act like Swedes but rather continue or may even exaggerate the culture of their home land and hence rape very much indeed here which then get reported and that make the statistics go high.

      That they rape like crazy is an well-known fact since long. The current government of course isn't interested in up to date statistics about that because .. go figure. But we've got our own older statistics, we've got the statistics of our neighbour countries, we've got experience from reports when someone are sentenced and we've also got "far-right" (as in the only people who are right? Rather than extremely lying?) websites who conveniently go through the court cases and see and generate statistics from them.

      even things that in some countries aren't even crimes

      That doesn't change that ~4 years of immigration make the women who say they have been victims of sexuality criminality triple. That's not reports to the police, that's not sentences, that's not law changes, that's just women who answer a question and much more often do so with a "yes."

      Also, if the act is repeated, then it's counted twice.

      Yeah, bla bla bla, too bad we've also got those inconvenient cases where people are actually asked.

      Here's the source: https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-o...

      Let the Slashdot readers draw their own conclusions.

      Here, have a chart of the number of asylum-seekers too: https://www.migrationsverket.s...

      Sweden used to be a world-leader in statistics about the population. Since the genocidal traitor regime doesn't want the results of their treason and actions to be revealed for the population such things are becoming more and more a thing of the past, just like the freedom of speech, Swedish innocence, women at cafeterias and outside with men, non-sexually-segregated schools and education, safety, trust against each other, trust of the government and so on.. But it's all good. Because we've got diversity. And that's awesome. Just look at all other happy diverse nations with their explosive cultures. Finally we've got our chance to become equal to them. Equality is good. Oh joy. If you think you deserve better than whatever citizen in the middle-east then you're a racist anyway. Everything need to become equally bad. Don't fix their societies; ruin ours instead.

      There have been cases where the same person (often in couples or married) where charged with 50 counts of rape.

      Yeah, there's also a shit-load of gang-rapes and assault-rapes from people the victim didn't knew since before, something which before was uncommon for Sweden. But let's ignore that and instead try to trick the reader that really nothing have changed and that it's completely safe to import lots of destructive asocial dangerous criminal rapists from the third world. Nothing will happen! They will instantly become Swedes as soon as they cross the border! Everyone on the subway in Stockholm is a Swede, some idiot have made that claim before so it must be true!

      Finally, in Sweden, everything possible is done to make sure rapes are reported.

      Yeah, e

    46. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if you look at the statistics last time the government reported them you could see that some groups of people (statistics per country/area they migrated from) had a higher sex-related crime-rate.. Asians for example has a lower rate than native swedish people and so on..

      The laws where changed quite a few years ago, but what you can see in the statistics is that it started to spike around then time when we started to have an increase in refugees into Sweden... It does say that something.. But without facts we do not know the actual reason.. And without knowing the facts we cannot address the issue.

      What we need to do is to gather statistics and act on them in a way to improve the situation for all.

      Ie, if there are claims about one group is doing bad thing X.
      1. Investigate/collect statistics
      2. Publish numbers.
      3. See what the numbers say
      4. Discuss what options there are to improve the numbers.
      5. Implement options to improve the numbers.
      6. rinse/repeat.

      If you on the other hand have a large part of the population screaming about that X is happening and then they get ignored of course this will push people into groups that says that X is happening even if X is not an issue..

      Biggest issue is that if you start talking about people from differenent regions in the world in todays sociery is that you will get called a racist..
      The issue is still that you have big differences in the behaviour of people from different parts in the world, and that is because different regions have different customs.. Just look at IQ ( https://iq-research.info/en/pa... ) .. IQ can be correlated with crime to some degree.. IQ is also directly linked to DNA / upbringing / food consumed during childhood..
      If we just use IQ as an example.. Say you are in a country with an average IQ of 99 (like sweden) and you increase the population with 5% from regions where you have an avarage IQ of 69 (Ethiopia) do you think the integration will be smooth and no work will be required by the people from Ethiopia? Ofcourse not... First generation may never fully integrate or adjust to the new country, but when you reach the second generation that will have had better upbringing/food/education and so on they will be much more aligned, but then you have put a missconception into the population that all people from Ethiopia to be "dumb" even if they are as smart as you or me..
      If you on the other hand have a more sane immigration-policy where you limit the immigration to say 1% of the total population per year the integration will be smoother and you allow the citizens of the country to adjust and adapt in a better way...

      Population of sweden is 9.6M so 1% would be 96000 people.
      2015 we had a bit over 160k refugees (not counting migrants) so that would put a big strain on the country..

      From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... we can see that 10% of the population in Sweden is foreign born so i do see this as something that causes problems (real or precieved)..

      So to sum it up... Discuss / investigate and publish findings/base decisions on real-world information / don't dismiss people's objections or fears even if they are on the complete opposite side of the political spectrum (or reality). If you can show you are correct based on real world facts and statistics you may win them over to your side, or at least move them closer to your side. And don't be scared in talking about people from different regions.. Maybe group X is prone to bad thing Y, but without knowing it for a fact there is no way to improve the situation.

    47. Re: Leftisy government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslims are not the real problem..... People refusing to talk, or refusing to base their ideas on facts, about issues (real or perceived) to find ways to improve the situation are the problem.

      Islamists on the other hand i can agree is a big problem. But you get that with any religious group that are leaning towards being fanatics.

  3. Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be alive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He'd be safe in his basement, covered in Cheeto dust.

    Damn you society! Why must you hate on Rust!?! Another life taken!!!!

  4. Cost cutting by sunking2 · · Score: 0

    That really makes a difference..

    1. Re:Cost cutting by msauve · · Score: 1

      Sorry he was killed, but some Spotify exec dying is very minor news. What did the three other people do for a living?

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    2. Re:Cost cutting by Orgasmatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Presumably, they did not work for companies fighting tooth and nail to keep the borders open.

      It sucks that he died, sucks that they all died. It was, however, predictable (and predicted) and preventable. The last one was too, and the next one will be, and the next, etc.

      So, the red pills will flow. And when one of the victims was not spared despite working for a company that thinks that "diversity is our strength", well, like it or not, but that sort of thing makes the red pills flow that much faster.

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    3. Re:Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1500 people commit suicide each year in Sweden which works out as 4 per day. Instead of devoting so much pointless time and attention to the "threat of terror" maybe people should engage with the real problems around them in their Daily lives and everyone would be a lot better off and would have far less time for nonsensical overdramatizations about the end of their societies due to invasion of other Cultures.

    4. Re:Cost cutting by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "diversity is our strength"

      I hate this saying. It is such a clear and obvious lie. Diversity is not, at all, a strength, but an exploitable weakness. At best, it is a challenge that requires enormous effort to overcome. If your neighborhood goes from having one culture to having ten, it is not stronger. Your neighborhood that used to agree on lots of things now has hundreds of potential conflicts, and it becomes very easy to exploit these differences to pit people against each other. The only reason to tell people that "diversity is a strength" is because you're trying to divide and conquer.

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    5. Re: Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also:
      War is peace
      Slavery is freedom

    6. Re: Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moronic argument the left repeats daily.

      Same answer as always:

      Just because some people die of some stuff (in this case self inflicted via suicide) at a greater rate than terrorism, does not make the smaller number of deaths from terrorism in any way acceptable.

      I'm not ok having -any- risk of death from a preventable event like a suicide attack from government imported killers. My risk of suicide is zero. Why should my risk of murder by foreign agents be higher?

      But, according to dumb asses like you, since my risk of death via terrorism is relatively low, lets import some, use my tax dollars to do it to add insult to injury, and all this is for exacwhat benefit to me or the country as a whole? None.

      We import terrorists because morons are allowed to vote.

    7. Re: Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's diversity of ideas that's the strength. Not the diversity of culture.

    8. Re: Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn that was well said. I also find it interesting these diversity worshippers worship cultures that are very homogenous (Japan India various parts of the Americas , etc).

    9. Re:Cost cutting by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      A monoculture can be completely wiped out by a single disease, so yes, diversity is a strength.

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    10. Re:Cost cutting by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      So that's why we're importing millions of barbarian savages into the west? To keep us safe from all those plagues we're having? k.

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    11. Re:Cost cutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So that's why we're importing millions of barbarian savages into the west? To keep us safe from all those plagues we're having? k.

      Well, I don't know about actual diseases, but the west is plagued by leftists.

      And importing millions of barbarian savages would cleanse the west of leftists, one way or another.

      Remember how it went the last time. The leftists of Rome were cleansed when barbarians swept in and destroyed the government which the leftists lived off of.

  5. damn truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    if only we could do something about these trucks driving into crowds by themselves for no reason

    oh well guess its hopeless

    1. Re:damn truck by Z80a · · Score: 1

      We need some sort of hero trucks, that preferably can turn into robots.

    2. Re:damn truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ban assault trucks.
      I'm sure that will help.

    3. Re:damn truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could this be related to Spotify plans to NOT use standard methods for an IPO? One wonders...

  6. I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You have been visited by the islamic truck of tolerance!

    Honk Honk!

    1. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

      That made my fucking day

    2. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And ended someone elses!

      You see! I can too.
      I've moderated three "politically incorrect" posts insightful though so I post AC in this one.
      Not because I'm a coward but because I want my moderation to stick. I'm Aliquis. Swede, nationalist, etnopluralist, anti-Islamist and "net-hater", ohnoz!!!

    3. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! That's exciting! I'm truly excited by your Swedish use of exclamation points !

      !!!!!!

      Do you write for Soap Opera Digest by any chance? (!!!!!!!!!!!)

      Like anyone gives a flying fuck about your magic moderation skills. Let me put it in perspective for you. I care about you, your life, and the lives of your family far LESS than I care about the dead wasps I sprayed on my porch today.

    4. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by aliquise · · Score: 0
      Yeah I post twice.
      It's not like someone at Slashdot actually care anything at all about the website anyway. When have they ever managed to do anything good with it?

      Fucking piece of shit Slashdot.
      I have five moderation points and used three of them to mod "politically incorrect" posts +1; insightful and then I wrote a post explaining that posted as AC and the damn site instantly removed my moderation. It used to ask (I don't use preview because it's not my fucking task to HTML format the text, manage links or do å, ä or ö.
      The incompetent people at Slashdot should had fixed their shit like ten years ago.) So now I have a shit-post and didn't helped saved your comments and I can't moderate anything more in the thread thanks to that shit-post.
      Thank you fucking POS /..

      Stuff like this is important for me. I need to be able to do my thing. Finally something important and relevant show up on Slashdot and .. this shit happens.

    5. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by aliquise · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Like anyone gives a flying fuck about your magic moderation skills. Let me put it in perspective for you. I care about you, your life, and the lives of your family far LESS than I care about the dead wasps I sprayed on my porch today.

      How much you care about it is irrelevant.

    6. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You either have to log out or use a different browser. You can't just click the anonymous button.

    7. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's good to know; I've always wondered what would happen. I've always erred on the side of caution though.

    8. Re:I loves the Religion of Peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that a Nelson "HAha" laugh I hear? Yes, I believe it is.

  7. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Society shuns us. But I'm safe in my warm basement, surrounded by...nay, bathing in cheetos.

    I am a Rust programmer! Here me roar!!!

  8. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now hold on. I'm a Rust programmer and I need to clear this up. We don't eat only Cheetos.

    We eat from the whole "'tos" family. Doritos, Fritos, Oreotos( ok I cheated on that one). So stop saying we're covered in just Cheeto dust. We're covered in all sorts of dusts.

  9. Re:Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Given the tragedy that occurred comments like yours are juts appalling!

    People died here!

  10. In Memoriam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:In Memoriam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When enough Swedes are saying that prayer, it'll finally get answered.

  11. Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    People are claiming this to justify their anti-Islam positions. Talking about this is racist.

    1. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Islam is not a race.

    2. Re:Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swedish law says it a race

    3. Re: Fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Be careful redefining words like that, it may backfire. So islam is a race now? Then perhaps racism isn't wrong any more either?

    4. Re:Fake news by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Talking about this is racist.

      Nice trolling.

    5. Re:Fake news by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

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  12. Guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    We need more Muslim immigrants. Seriously. The only way we can stop these sorts of attacks is to flood our countries with the sorts of people perpetrating them, and maybe killing ourselves too. Don't you know your grampa was a NAZI that owned SLAVES. FEEL GUILTY YOU NON-JEWISH FUCKS.

  13. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are a dumbass! I'd like you to know how to spell "hear"!

  14. Re:Some good news at last by andrewa · · Score: 1

    I suppose you would feel different about it if it was your mother that had died, especially as that would mean you would have to move out of her basement.

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  15. Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Great, another excuse for you white nerds to be racist.

    1. Re:Racist by Z80a · · Score: 4, Informative

      Muslim is not a race.

    2. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't know, they seem to be pretty eager to put the pedal to the metal.

    3. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Islam has nothing to do with Islam!

    4. Re:Racist by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Muslim is not a race.

      Religion is a choice, of course, and we should all be held to account for the choices and affiliations we make.

      However, I do take issue with your statement, because it implies that there are multiple human "races" when there aren't. There is only one race capable of reading this message: the human race. Skin pigment, country of origin, sex, hair/eye colour, etc., are not determinants. If we can breed, then we're the same race.

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    5. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, another excuse for you white nerds to be racist.

      Islam / Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion.

      We could pass a law requiring Scientologists or Muslims to sit at the back of the bus and it wouldn't be "racist". It might be anti-religious bigotry, or something, but not racist.

      And if you ask me, there's no real difference between "religion" and "cult". I know the constitution guarantee freedom of religion but what kind of fucked up society requires us to treat cults "fairly"? They're a plague. After 911 everyone was talking about having to sacrifice freedoms to preserve safety. I wonder what society would be like now, if instead of privacy and having everyone read our emails, we'd just sacrificed the freedom to be in a shitty cult. It seems far more worthless.

      Besides, all the rules about "racism" go out the window during war. Was it racist to shoot a bunch of Germans in WW2? What about shooting Koreans in the Korean war? Yes they were. But that level of racism is apparently necessary for society to function. Or at least for a society to defend itself from other societies who are mostly sorted by race.

    6. Re:Racist by Z80a · · Score: 1

      To be a racist, you need to believe there are different races in first place and classify people by those.
      Also "White racist" is a quite terrible statement, as its a racist affirmation by itself.

    7. Re:Racist by Z80a · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You don't need to be born in the middle east to explode yourself for allah.

    8. Re:Racist by Shinobi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, Homo Sapiens is a species. There are multiple races, that is, various biological adaptations to different environments etc. Claiming anything else is just ideological indoctrination, no matter if you claim that there's only one race, or that some race is worth more than others.

      There's plenty of evidence for it, like how some races are more or less susceptible to certain health issues, like say being less likely to suffer from Malaria but instead having an 8 times higher risk of contracting diabetes. Or, for another race, increased susceptibility to Malaria and more likely to suffer from clinical depression, but less susceptible to diabetes. There is plenty of biological evidence that proves your ideological imperative wrong.

      As for your statement regarding breeding, you clearly show that you are quite ignorant about biology: Races can interbreed and produce viable offspring. Hell, in some families, you can even have cross-species breeding, though the offspring becomes either completely(Liger, male Mules), or mostly sterile(female mules).

    9. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wolf = Chihuahua

    10. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Freedom to practice a religion of your choice is the keystone without which the 1st Amendment falls apart. If you're not free to believe what you want, even if it's shitty, you aren't free to think. Rights to expression, association, etc, can collapse as a result. Implicit rights, like privacy, are the first to go in that scenario, if it isn't already gone.

    11. Re:Racist by chispito · · Score: 1

      Muslim is not a race.

      You wouldn't know it based on the reaction to the travel ban President Trump tried.

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    12. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not let yourself to be controlled by redefinition of words. For example, race in biology means certain things and you can read about them here:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(biology)

      Humans are animals as much as any and we are biological. There should be no need for redefinition for the word race. But there is, look:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)

      Now you need to ask yourself, why would humans have different article for race when it concerns humans themselves? Are we not biological? Do you have the audacity to call the latter Wiki article about human races bullshit? I do. It IS bullshit, it is political, it is an attempt to redefine something that does not need it, it tries to impose a double standard.

      It tries to hijack a well known word and spin it to suit a certain agenda.

    13. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No excuse needed. Their attacks are religiously motivated and they show time and again that letting them in is a bad idea. When will people finally realize that?

      These people are promised 72 virgins and the ability to designate a couple people to go straight into heaven WITHOUT judgment after death if they die a "martyr's" death while killing infidels. What better way to do it if not by exploding yourself in a bus? Do people seriously NOT see the problem in letting in muslims from radical muslim countries? THIS ISN'T JUST A PSYCHOPATHIC OR IDEOLOGICAL MURDER like what Breivik did. We're dealing wiht a whole social group of radical muslims that believes that killing infidels is a good deed in the eyes of their god. We're literally cattle for them to murder. We need to set aside emotion and take a hard stance on this.

      There are moderate muslims, yeah. Ask yourself the question though: if you reject 3/4of what your God said to you, what's the point of belief at all? If God says, kill non-believers, and you don't listen, you defy God and are already damned to hell. Chrsitian God said that, too.

    14. Re:Racist by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The problem is that the word "race" encompasses both biological differences and social ones. Even worse, we aren't entirely sure which is which in every case.

      In practice, 90% of what people mean when they say "race" is purely artificial social division.

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    15. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depending on how you look at it, all social division is artificial.

      Long live postmodernism!

    16. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But likewise being born in the middle east doesn't mean that you automatically think blowing yourself up for your imaginary buddy is a swell idea.

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    17. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Acknowledging that people look different isn't racist. It only becomes racist when you suggest that for the sole reason of this difference they must have or must not have certain traits. "A is white" isn't racist. "A is white and therefore he must be X" is.

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    18. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      What's that got to do with it?

      Oh, you mean there are people who conflate religion with race? Yes, people are stupid, news at 11.

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    19. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      Difference between religion and cult? I'm still working on the difference between religion and mental illness. Take a look at the definition of delusion and realize that the only thing that keeps religion out of being one is the explicit mentioning that religions are exempt.

      The only logical conclusion is that religions are delusions that spread widely enough to grandfather it.

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    20. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      These people are promised 72 virgins and the ability to designate a couple people to go straight into heaven WITHOUT judgment after death if they die a "martyr's" death while killing infidels.

      What the ad brochure doesn't tell you is the gender of the virgins.

      In other words, they're stuck for eternity in a Star Trek convention.

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    21. Re:Racist by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      IOW, they're at about the same place that mainstream Christianity was a few centuries back.

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    22. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Wow, who went and handed the religious nutjob modpoints?

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    23. Re:Racist by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      Well, if you start arguing that way, then you'll find that there is no racism anywhere because there are no races in the sense racists would assume. The idea of a phenotypical race is considered ill-conceived and plays no substantial role in biology for a long time. Nazi talk about races is pseudo-science and everybody knows it, since the time we're able to map genes.

      But "racism" as it is used nowadays, has nothing to do with races anyway, it's about marginalizing and discriminating minorities, as every educated adult including you knows. Often the word is also used to convey the original sense of chauvinism, i.e., discriminating people by their country of origin.

      However, I'm pretty sure you and the /. moderators who voted you up knew all that already. What you and they reveal by your hypocritical language corrections is that your are, indeed, bigoted racists, whether you are aware of it or not. On a side note, regardless of the meaning of "racism", judging 1.6 billion people on the basis of the actions of a few dozen to maybe even a few thousands among them is just stupid.

    24. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homo Sapiens is a goal, not a description.

      captcha: whining

    25. Re:Racist by Z80a · · Score: 1

      Yep. But the odds will be higher if you born in a place where the radical islam took over, which obviously means that if you take away the radical islam, you reduce or remove the people willing to blow up for allah.

    26. Re:Racist by Z80a · · Score: 1

      The problem here is that people that are against muslims are against the religion itself, not the social class or where they did born.
      To be racist by your definition would be to give an OK pass to for example "white" middle class US citizens that converted into the radical islam, which is not the case.

    27. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, your definition would require independent thought and when religion comes into play, their is no such thing as independent thought. Religion is just another mechanism to control the masses who lack the necessary thought processes.

    28. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > you white nerds

      No need. Looks live you've already got the racism covered.

    29. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aaaah, I see your flaw in thinking. In order to have logic, you must exhibit independent thought. This conflicts with organized religion as it's entire purpose is to control the masses through set of pre-approved tenets that define what is acceptable behavior.

    30. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Taking away radical religion is easier said than done.

      Question: Would you fall for the bullshit? Would you blow yourself up for the promise of a great afterlife or some petty cash for your loved ones? Probably not. Why? 'cause you enjoy this life.

      We simply have to export that. Give people a reason to live and something to lose and they will no longer throw their life away. As long as people think that death and the weak promise of maybe something cool in the next life, provided there is one, is better than what they already have, this ain't going to change.

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    31. Re:Racist by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      People who come to the conclusion that religion is a mental disease (ICD-10, F22.0, delusion) are not required to be religious. Hence they are quite possibly capable of independent and logical thinking.

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    32. Re:Racist by admin7087 · · Score: 1

      First of all, Being against Islam or Christianity is not racist at all, it's quite reasonable in my point of view. Being against something or someone doesn't make anyone a racist, certainly not according to the definition that I gave. (Did you even read my post?) Second, this is not about 'my' definition, I'm not Humpty-Dumpty, it's about the meaning of the word, which for a long time has had nothing to do with races and also isn't meant that way according to law. It concerns the deliberate discrimination of minorities. Third, yes, of course, someone who actively discriminates a white middle class US citizen just because he converted to Islam does definitely qualify as a racist.

      It would be nice to have a word as strong as "racist" that works for both minorities and majorities, i.e., that points out that someone makes crass overgeneralizations and holds overly general negative stereotypes about some large group of people without pointing out any particular individuals or particular bad actions. However, this is not very important for majorities, because these can defend themselves against injustice fairly well by being in the majority.

    33. Re:Racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Belief in free will and that we're not all automatons is the real illusion. Science is proving this.

    34. Re:Racist by stdarg · · Score: 1

      They're at the same place that Christianity was at during the dark ages, yet they don't live in the dark ages. They have all the advantages of global communication and travel, widespread literacy, huge advances in science, easy access to the arts, literature, history, etc.

      It's amazing that a huge group of people people living today can still be so backwards, isn't it?

    35. Re:Racist by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

      In practice, 90% of what people mean when they say "race" is purely artificial social division.

      But everyone knows what you're talking about when you say "a black guy" or "an asian guy" or "a white guy." Having to say "this collection of human haplogroups" or "individuals of recent European descent" is just a type of tone policing. The "race is just as social construct" talk only comes out when it's a right winger speaking about race. You'll never find the leftists chanting "The Social Construct of 'Black' Describing Human Haplogroups Common to Peoples of Recent African Descent's Lives Matter!"

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    36. Re:Racist by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2

      What the honest fuck are you even talking about?

      If we're going to start prattling off "races" based on minor genetic variations, we're going to have to start inventing the "ginger race" (sunburn easily), the "albino race" (predisposed to a bunch of specific diseases), the "blonde race" (yuh know, tend to be wild in bed or something), the "race of people with webbed toes" (tend to be better swimmers), ...

      Seriously. Your response is utter contrived horseshit.

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  16. Re:Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grow up. I have no patience for people who think with their heart. It's comparable to masturbating in public.

  17. Directr of Global Partnerships killed by Globalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Irony is not lost. But instead of laughing, a sorry head shakes.

  18. It's Not Tragic To Die Doing What you Love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it is tragic is to die never having really lived the life we wanted. Unfortunately, too many of us aren't really doing what we want to be doing. Events like this prompt us to think about things like that. Would I still be happy with my life today if I knew that I was going to die tomorrow? It's a question that only we can answer for ourselves.

    1. Re:It's Not Tragic To Die Doing What you Love by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure he didn't love running into trucks.

      Then again, who am I to judge Swedes for their crazy fetishes...

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  19. Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The current party is the one that put the breaks on letting refugees in and making the asylum process stricter. The guy who committed the attack was denied asylum. The previous party that was in power, which was center-right, was the one that was turning a blind eye towards unskilled immigrants arriving for years. I suspect they will try to speed up the process of deported failed asylum seekers and keeping a closer watch on them going forward.

    Some shitty people took advantage of the Syrian refugee crisis expecting they'd make it into a top European country and either be accepted despite not being Syrian or be able to get away with lying about it, and live the good life on welfare and a few extremists as well for the purpose of carrying out attacks. Europe really wasn't ready for it, did not have a strong defense on its outer border (and still doesn't, it's likely impossible to guard all possible entry points), the laws they had in place were built around handling a much smaller number of refugees in a more controlled manner. Most countries have since adapted, the number of refugees arriving has dropped dramatically, but they're still trying to figure out what to do with the ones they have and deporting the failed asylum seekers. Once the war is over in Syria, the refugees will be sent back as European countries have done with refugees from other countries that are now safe. Yeah, I'm sure some will slip through the cracks for awhile until they're caught, same shit happens in almost every major country though.

    Europe has never been heaven. There are often some difficult issues going on, countries adapt to them through the normal political process and don't need to go apeshit fourth reich like the far right thinks is the only way to handle things.

    1. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are fucking insane.

      It is an invasion. They will never go. Why the hell would they give up welfare, free phones, free homes, and immunity from prosecution for sex crimes? It's paradise, and the 72 virgins are blonde and speak German, Swedish, and English.

      There will be another genocide in Europe, and it will be conducted under the banner of diversity, and sanctioned through the implementation of political Islam.

    2. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Kiuas · · Score: 1, Funny

      It is an invasion. They will never go. It is an invasion. They will never go. Why the hell would they give up welfare, free phones, free homes, and immunity from prosecution for sex crimes?

      Stop drinking the kool-aid. First of all it's not up to their choice. What OP was saying is that the way asylums work is that they're not eternal. People fleeing a war are given asylum until the war ends, after which it's revoked and they're returned to their country of origin. They're not given a choice in the matter. Secondly, immigrants do not have immunity from prosecution, and if you think so you haven't been looking at actual convictions.

      There will be another genocide in Europe, and it will be conducted under the banner of diversity, and sanctioned through the implementation of political Islam.

      C'mon. The amount of muslims in all european countries is so small they have next to no actual political influence to begin with, and the one's that have gone through to politics for example here in Finland have done so under mainstream parties like the Green party which obviously is not supporting political islam or sharia.

      It's one thing to point out that there are legitimate issues with the handling of refugees and the asylum-process in general (the thing that incidents like this one highlight is that it may be necessary to detain the refugees whose asylum is rejected until they can be deported) but the claim that Europe faces some threat of becoming a caliphate is simply unfounded in reality and mindless fear-mongering, which the right keeps pumping out (with hefty help from Russian 'alternative facts' sources).

      European political history is no stranger to fears of muslim invasion, which has been one of the long time boogiemen since the middle-ages, altering in the role of the 'imminent menace about to destroy the whole of europe' together with communism and occasionally the jews. It didn't happen back when the caliphate actually had vast standing armies, it's certainly not going to happen now.

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    3. Re: Are you even Swedish? by theM_xl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It didn't happen when the caliphate had vast standing armies because we had vast standing armies of our own. It's not called the Battle of Vienna because everyone got together and talked about their feelings and sang kumbaya.

      What you're saying about asylum is how it's SUPPOSED to work, not how it's working NOW. Which wouldn't be a problem if the EU was actually trying to fix the situation, but they seem to be as dangerously naieve as you are being.

    4. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Bongo · · Score: 1

      While I don't agree with the earlier post, I don't think we can go the other way either and simply claim there's no danger, because in essence, these things can't be predicted -- the problem is that nobody knows how far political islam will spread. And because it can't be predicted, people fear the unknown. Predicting it will never happen only stokes the fears of those who feel like it is happening but being ignored.

      There are many countries which turned into basket cases. North Korea, Lebanon, Zimbabwe.

      And there is no shortage of people who say stupid stuff in an islamic political context, eg. Erdogan who recently told Turks living in Germany that they should have many children so as to become the future of Europe. What if Christian leaders started telling their congregations that they should have as many children as possible to regain the majority in the country and "Christianise" the government? Religion (in its older pre-modern form) is scary because well, it is pre-modern, it more ideological, more controlling, more dictatorial, etc.

      But for Europe and Islam, I'd say a couple of things: at the end of the day, every individual makes their own interpretation of their "religion". So there is not one religion, there are billions of versions of it. Terrorists are a tiny minority view which has to use senseless violence to get themselves noticed. The difficulty though, is that the nature of monotheistic faiths is that there is only one united and true religion. So even though every individual makes their own interpretation of their religion, where there vast majority would never dream of doing anything violent, the nature of the faith is for everyone to believe that there is only one true version. Again, as Erdogan recently said, "there is no moderate Islam, there is just Islam". Basically, everyone identifies themselves as "Muslim" even though, in reality, a billion Muslims are actually all individuals with their own version of what it means to be Muslim, whilst believing that there is only one true Islam.

      I think that's why inevitably the monotheistic religions hit a dead end, because they cannot deal with the variety of reality.

      But in terms of prediction, how on earth can you predict which direction the political feelings of the masses will go when all individuals are different and yet the common belief is that they are in some sense all the same and all united? This cannot be predicted.

      As for Europe, I imagine that this is not the first time nor the last time that Europe has had to grapple with fascistic political movements. Europe is old and has had a lot of experience. For that reason alone I don't see political Islam spreading much, even as many people in other parts of the world hate the West and would love to see it crumble, just as part of our common inherited animal competitive natures.

      Terrorism will continue for some time though, and one day we may see an attack involving hundreds of thousands. But these things only "work" if they invite reprisals and retaliation at an ethnic level. And most Europeans do not identify themselves in a tribal way, as Europe is so old, and most don't get into the habit of forming militias which would tear the nation in civil war -- we really are just not that interested. So with no retaliation, the deaths are tragic but life goes on.

      If anything, Western PostModernism may spread into Islamic societies and cause endless turmoil. Anyone who thinks Islam is holding nations back, just wait until PostModernism gets in there. That's meant to be a joke. Sort of.

    5. Re:Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The breaks on immigration the current government put in is mostly lip service.
      In actual numbers immigration is almost as high as before.

    6. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, wow that's harsh. I wouldn't even wish postmodernism on my enemies.

    7. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      given asylum until the war ends, after which it's revoked and they're returned to their country of origin.

      Here in Finland lots of people are protesting that they should be allowed to stay. It's considered racist to send them back. Even if they lied about fleeing a war and are actually provably from another country, it's considered racist to send them back. While men (>90% of the "refugees") may be sent back, women and children certainly won't, regardless of why they came here. Fake news that an illegal immigrant child was deported caused a huge scandal recently. Everyone was outraged even though it didn't actually happen. There's no way the politicians would allow that any more.

      The tax-funded state church will attempt to hide men about to be deported, so they could avoid authorities. This will complicate detaining them.

      The immunity from prosecution is more about attempting to avoid having to prosecute. For example not publishing what the criminals looked like. Clothing will be reported, skin color not, unless it's white. By minimizing the number of possible witnesses, they may be able to avoid punishing the criminals. Even if convicted, the punishment is saying "don't do it again", which for all intents and purposes is "immunity from prosecution". Mind you, that applies to rapists of all kinds, not just immigrants. But they probably wouldn't have such immunity where they came from, at least if attacking a stranger whose family finds out.

    8. Re:Are you even Swedish? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

      The current party is the one that put the breaks on letting refugees in and making the asylum process stricter.

      Bullshit. All the other parties including the one in government right now have worked together to exclude the one anti-immigration party (Sverigedemokraterna, 12.86% of the vote) from gaining any political power. The only reason they slowed down a little was because the system was about to collapse under the immigration pressure. Essentially, as long as SD have <50% they'll pretend it's not there and vote the way that would have a majority without them. Right now they're polling at ~18%, with attacks like these they'll probably get even bigger.

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    9. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For anyone reading this.

      The post above is essentially what alt-righters write before they go on a killing spree that has caused way more deaths than radical Islamists have caused in Europe.

    10. Re: Are you even Swedish? by mtmiller100 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      [sarcasm] - how DARE you notice what's going on! Your job is to close your eyes, close your ears, and especially, shut your mouths, while these "poor, innocents" invade your country, and turn it into the exact same kind of shit-hole that they turned their homelands into. Don't you understand that the pattern of their actions can't possibly be the problem?!? The problem is that YOU noticed it, and don't want your nice country going down the same path that theirs all did!

    11. Re:Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, no way they are going back. In Belgium, the requests for "family reunion" have doubled in a year. Underage refugees (16-18 yr old) make the trip alone, next they put in a demand for "family reunion visas", shipping over their entire family. This can't be denied because it's a special case, where "the safety of the underage child" is important so he (because it's all young men) needs the support of his family. So not only are you getting the young ones that might (and I say might because most of them are still unemployed after years) integrate and be of use to society, you're also getting the middle-aged functional illiterate parents who will not work a day here but will get welfare money, social housing and healthcare.
      In Fact, it's one of the biggest pet peeves currently. Refugees going on holiday back to their home country, often taking a detour or flying from another country in Europe, so the government doesn't find out. If you can go back for a month on holidays, you don't need to be a refugee!

    12. Re: Are you even Swedish? by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      It seems you feel safe and you give not one crap about victims. The problem is no vetting was done so a whole range of hardened criminals was let through along with the refugees. Thousands of criminals, who will commit tens of thousands of crime, rape, murder, theft, and you don't seem to give one crap about the victims.

      Refugees should never have been allowed out of camps. Once they are vetted and achieve migrant status than it is OK, prior to that it is stupid and actually consequences on the ground has proven that. How many citizens should be sacrificed to feed you sensibilities, none, but tens of thousands of them have been, sure not all murders but rapes, burglaries, common acts of violence, young, old, male, female, your indifference to their suffering is appalling and disgusting. All could have been avoided if the refugees had been properly contained and those who passed vetting allowed on the streets and those who failed to remain contained until safely returned to their country of origin.

      Then again perhaps the citizen of the countries who caused the crisis should suffer and bleed with their victims. Stop stealing resources, stop forcing labour, stop invading countries, stop the coups, stop the wars, else continue to suffer. If Eruope fails to get NATO to shut the fuck up, NATO will continue to kill Europeans, North American Territorial Occupation farce is not a joke and it is killing Europeans as well as Americans and people from all over the globe in insane schemes to sell arms and munitions and to steal resource, total dominance, total power, total control, obey or die (they do not even attempt to deny it).

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    13. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > People fleeing a war are given asylum until the war ends, after which it's revoked and they're returned to their country of origin. They're not given a choice in the matter.

      That is blatantly false.

      A huge part, if not the majority of migrants, are not fleeing from war. They are economic migrants and they get to stay indefinitely. Governments are too afraid to deport any significant number of people.

      In Germany for example, we had more people who officially should have had to leave before this whole migration crisis even started, than left our country since then. Whenever you read about deportations and voluntary returns it's in the order of 10s of thousands. When you read about denied asylum applications it's in the order of hundreds of thousands. That's not even people who actually get asylum who don't have to leave. That's people who never qualified in the first place.

    14. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a co-worker who was arrested because he perfectly met the description of an attacker (male, tall, skinny, black hair) and was in the same neighborhood. He was released when the victim said he was not white.

      This was decades before PC took over and that detail was left out by mistake.

    15. Re:Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a bit unfortunate since none of the policies that they suggest actually helps against terrorism.
      They are just good at pushing mouthpieces that sound good unless you start to think about what the actual result of that policy would be.
      And for some reason they also like to follow Russias stance on Swedish defense politics despite being a party that otherwise only cares about immigration.

    16. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For anyone reading this the above post is essentially what alt-lefters write before they go on a killing spree

    17. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any policy which keeps the percentage of Muslims lower than it would have been without prevents terrorism.

      Ethnic cohesion doesn't entirely prevent terrorism, but it does help.

    18. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Xenna · · Score: 1

      "People fleeing a war are given asylum until the war ends, after which it's revoked and they're returned to their country of origin."

      You're probably living in a different Europe. In the Europe I live in hardly any of the immigrants who claim to be fleeing a war ever return to their homeland. They just stay here indefinitely.

    19. Re: Are you even Swedish? by thejynxed · · Score: 1

      Political Islam not spreading much? Have you paid any attention at all to whom is mayor of London?

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    20. Re: Are you even Swedish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you're saying about asylum is how it's SUPPOSED to work, not how it's working NOW

      You do know those plain clothes officers who hijack people from the streets, homes and public buildings, let a nurse drug them and then put them to airplanes for forced return trip? Because that is how it's done currently, if necessary. Is the use of force not a sing of a working system, or is something else required for a satisfied, bear-phobic "righty" audience?

    21. Re: Are you even Swedish? by axewolf · · Score: 0

      The "Asylum" Racket - starting wars in foreign countries to terrorize the common people, creating infrastructure to transport them people to the West, forcing the taxpayers to support them, and rubbing your hands together anticipating the drop in labor cost at home and the new opportunities that open up as your carve out sections of the country for your own business

    22. Re: Are you even Swedish? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Ask Jordan and Lebanon how well containing of refugees works.

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  20. Racism is something different by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are claiming this to justify their anti-Islam positions. Talking about this is racist.

    No, it's not. Liberals need to stop name calling and get a clue:

    RACISM IS NOT DEFINED AS "SOMETHING THAT DISAGREES WITH THE LEFT!"

    We CAN talk about issues without being racist, holding racist beliefs, or being prejudiced.

    Grow the fuck up and have adult conversations.

    It seems that many terrorist attacks in recent years have come from Muslims. This might be a false perception because of media bias, so

    1) Does anyone have strong statistical evidence that the problem is Islam, and not a different common feature?

    2) Would it make sense to bar entry to the US from certain world areas?

    3) Would it make sense to put Muslims under enhanced scrutiny domestically?

    As an anecdote to #3, I heard news articles saying that the local Imam in Florida was calling for death to gays before the nightclub attack. Are such overt calls for violence protected as free speech or freedom of religion, or should we make certain exceptions?

    Discuss. None of these questions is racist, or indicate inherent racism to an intelligent person. (But it might to liberals.)

    1. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are claiming this to justify their anti-Islam positions. Talking about this is racist.

      No, it's not. Liberals need to stop name calling and get a clue:

      RACISM IS NOT DEFINED AS "SOMETHING THAT DISAGREES WITH THE LEFT!"

      We CAN talk about issues without being racist, holding racist beliefs, or being prejudiced.

      Grow the fuck up and have adult conversations.

      It seems that many terrorist attacks in recent years have come from Muslims. This might be a false perception because of media bias, so

      1) Does anyone have strong statistical evidence that the problem is Islam, and not a different common feature?

      2) Would it make sense to bar entry to the US from certain world areas?

      3) Would it make sense to put Muslims under enhanced scrutiny domestically?

      As an anecdote to #3, I heard news articles saying that the local Imam in Florida was calling for death to gays before the nightclub attack. Are such overt calls for violence protected as free speech or freedom of religion, or should we make certain exceptions?

      Discuss. None of these questions is racist, or indicate inherent racism to an intelligent person. (But it might to liberals.)

      And political correctness is not defined as everything that disagrees with the right. There is plenty of political correctness (aka. political dogma that cannot be questioned) on the right wing as well. Now, see how I managed to get that point across without screaming?

    2. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this is unpopular here, but in my honest and not very biased experience most people who talk about Islamic terrorism a lot are indeed racists. I've seen this numerous times, especially on the web but also from populist politicians. As sad as it may be, you cannot take people's talk about "issues" literally, because the vast majority uses them to promote some political agenda. What some people don't understand: You can be a racist without knowing it.

      I hate to compare apples with bananas, but need to point out, for instance, that not many people called IRA Christian terrorists, though that's exactly what they were: Nationalist Christian Terrorists. There are plenty of such folks in the US, too, but almost nobody ever talks about them.

      What people also deliberately omit in the discussion is that terrorists are not representative of anything. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Even if you include all members of Daesh and all those mentally deranged lone wolves who follow them abroad, these are just a fart in the wind in comparison to the remaining peaceful 1.6 billion minus x, because x is ridiculously low in comparison.

      The whole discussion, including the above post, is blatantly irrational and I'm afraid indeed also mostly racist, though often unbeknownst. This has been shown statistically over and over. These indicate clearly how people overrate the threat of terrorism, grossly overate the number of Muslims in their country (which e.g. is 8% in the EU even according to the most conservative surveys), and at the same time grossly underestimate other risks like preventable regular traffic accidents or preventable cancer. It's also due to the media who blow everything out of proportions. Meanwhile, elsewhere dozens of innocent civilians are killed almost daily by drone strikes or US and Russian cluster bombs, if they are not just gased by Assad or shot by their own people. Again, it's comparing apples and oranges, but people need to put things in perspective if they want to discuss rationally.

    3. Re:Racism is something different by trawg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You seem to regularly fall for the extremist left wing nutbag douchebag comments every time to take the advantage of writing an otherwise excellent post but using it as a vehicle to basically shit on "liberals".

      Do you think that this is helping? Because to me (as a non-American who, like most of the rest of the world, are just baffled by almost everything that happens there) it seems posts like this just exacerbate the divide and try to frame everything in black and white issues.

      I agree that there are "liberal" nutjobs who are offended by everything. There are also "conservative" wackjobs that do the same. This problem is massively blown out of scale by a) the shitty echo chamber filter bubble of social media and b) the feckless media who thrive on such black-vs-white dissent because it is amazing clickbait.

      To drop a footnote like this, specifically to cast every liberal (or conservative) with a broad brush, in what is otherwise an insightful and important topic makes it look like you're not really interested in a discussion, but just scoring points against people on the "Other Side".

      Anyway. I think those three questions are interesting. But otherwise this post is kind of flamebait.

    4. Re:Racism is something different by jandersen · · Score: 0

      The posting you are responding to is trying to be sarcastic, you know. But you raise some valid points, so unlike you, I will try to respond in a calm and measured way.

      No, it's not. Liberals need to stop name calling and get a clue:

      RACISM IS NOT DEFINED AS "SOMETHING THAT DISAGREES WITH THE LEFT!"

      We CAN talk about issues without being racist, holding racist beliefs, or being prejudiced.

      Grow the fuck up and have adult conversations.

      I have a lot of trouble understanding what people in America mean by 'liberal' and 'the left'; I sort of suspect that liberal includes attitudes like tolerance and openness, but somehow also extreme views about government and rules being bad. And I have a sneaking suspicion that 'left', at least the way you say it, means 'anybody that is skeptical about gun-ownership, hard-core Christian fundamentalism or white supremacy'. So who is being prejudiced here? I'm willing to listen arguments and responding with my arguments, but then you will have to introduce some arguments, not just vague suggestions based on fear. And here's a question for you: have ever even thought of asking whether this is really caused by the religion of Islam, or could it be that the religion is only a disguise? After all, during the troubles in Northern Ireland, the two sides both hid behind their religion, only in this case it was Catholicism vs Protestantism. If you want an adult conversation, then let's put the blind prejudices behind us and be prepared to accept the outcome of our considerations even if it is something other than what we expect.

      1) Does anyone have strong statistical evidence that the problem is Islam, and not a different common feature?

      I expect not. Statistics is a scientific tool, although I know it is being used disingeniously by some to 'prove' just about anything. I can't see how a question like this could be stated in a scientific way; just because you see that a large number of terrorists are, at the moment, calling themselves Muslims, how can you prove that they genuinely are? And even if they seriously do believe that they are doing God's will, how do you explain the fact that 99.9% or more of Muslims don't agree with their extreme views? In fact, if you want to use statistics, I expect that you will have to accept that Islam inspires people to live peacefully with their neighbours, and that terrorism is way out there on the fringe.

      2) Would it make sense to bar entry to the US from certain world areas?

      No, not really. On one hand, it places a huge extra burden on every part of the travel industry, and on the other hand, it will only serve to inconvenience innocent people: those who are coming to the US for entirely legitimate purposes. The ones that are hell-bent on adding to your own, home-grown terrorism will find ways around. They will get a false passport under the name Wilhelm Schmidt, colour their hair, whatever, and travel in from Germany or any other country. So, it doesn't make any sense if your goal is to keep out terrorists.

      3) Would it make sense to put Muslims under enhanced scrutiny domestically?

      How would that make sense? As above, only honest, law-abiding Muslims will choose not to conceal their identity. It's naive to think that this sort of extremely costly exercise will achieve anything of real value. What it will do, though, is alienate and victimise a whole group of people already living in your society, and that is likely to produce more individuals who are likely to want to hurt you; is that really a clever thing to do? People - all people - want to protect and care about what they feel is theirs, so the right thing to do is to integrate them into mainstream society. That way they will want to protect what is now also their society.

      As an anecdote to #3, I heard news articles saying that the local Imam in Florida was calling for death to gays before the nightc

    5. Re:Racism is something different by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      As an anecdote to #3, I heard news articles saying that the local Imam in Florida was calling for death to gays before the nightclub attack. Are such overt calls for violence protected as free speech or freedom of religion, or should we make certain exceptions?

      So it's ok if a Christian preacher does the same thing, but if an Imam does it it's bad?

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    6. Re:Racism is something different by Kjella · · Score: 1

      1) Does anyone have strong statistical evidence that the problem is Islam, and not a different common feature?

      The percentage of terrorists shouting "Allahu akbar". To be more serious though, in unruly areas the border between terrorism, civil war, insurrection, sectarian fighting, war crimes, genocide and general lawlessness is quite blurry so it's hard to give a number everyone will agree on. But in Europe islamic terrorism has been the leading cause of terror in the 21st century. And unlike much of the terror of the past, it seems designed to create mass carnage and maximize civilian casualties. Same with the US even if you exclude 9/11 with Ford Hood, San Bernardino and Orlando leading the pack. Boston was pretty much a flop as deaths go, even if it swamped the news.

      In other parts of the world it depends on how you count Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al-Nusra, Daesh etc. as opposed to all the other shit that goes down. The Arab Spring for example is a giant cluster fuck. Same with Eastern Ukraine, conflicts in CAR and Somalia in Africa etc. and if you go strictly by number of deaths it's nothing like the killing fields in an actual war. The Stockholm attack is roughly one bad bus accident. In Syria ~1000 civilians die every month. Even if you put Madrid, London 2005, Nice, Berlin, London 2017, Stockholm etc. together for more than a decade of terror you don't come close to a single month. The goal is more to say nobody's safe.

      The question is more whether there's underlying tensions building up that will lead to something much, much bigger. After all, if you look in isolation it looks like the years between WWI and WWII were pretty peaceful. Then boom the casualties fly off the map. I'm not really optimistic by the results of "integration" so far, they might live here but many don't adjust much in terms of values or way of life, not even in the next generation. It took us centuries to go from the Dark Ages through enlightenment and women's suffrage to modern life, now we're starting over again for no sane reason I can think of. I guess we have a glutton for punishment.

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    7. Re:Racism is something different by tehcyder · · Score: 1, Insightful

      As an anecdote to #3, I heard news articles saying that the local Imam in Florida was calling for death to gays before the nightclub attack. Are such overt calls for violence protected as free speech or freedom of religion, or should we make certain exceptions?

      So it's ok if a Christian preacher does the same thing, but if an Imam does it it's bad?

      If a white Christian says something vile, it's just them exercising their right to free speech. If a brown Muslim does the same, the world is ending.

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    8. Re:Racism is something different by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      While the IRA could be defined as being Roman Catholic, the reason for there terrorism was not prima facie down to their religion, and their goals where not in any way shape or form religious in nature.

      The reason behind the IRA terrorism was the blatant and overt oppression of Roman Catholics by Protestants in Northern Ireland. Their goal was/is to succeed from the United Kingdom and unite with the rest of the island of Ireland and free themselves from the really quite horrendous oppression they where under.

      On the other hand Islamist terrorists are doing it all in the name of religion and their goals are religious in nature. So for example the goal of Daesh is to convert the entire world to Islam, killing those who refuse on the way.

      That is why despite being based in religion nobody in their right mind ever called the IRA Christian terrorists, apart from the fact that it would need to be Roman Catholic terrorists anyway, and I am quite sure many of them never actually attended church on a regular basis.

    9. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to see a blinding procedure implemented, so the people judging whether or not something is permissible don't know who was saying it, or whom they were saying it about.

      In which case ... probably, the biggest losers would be the feminists. As a society, we tolerate sexism to an extent that we would never tolerate racism. For example, blacks get shot by police three times as often as whites, and we get the BLM movement; men get shot by police twenty times as often as women, and there's scarcely a peep about it.

    10. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh......Roman Catholics ARE the only real and original Christians...crazy Protestant fanatics to the contrary. St Peter and all that.....

      I'm not religious and even I know that.

    11. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of their comments are intended to push propaganda, not have an actual discussion. They have to present the world as being full of enemies of the ethnic natives or of people sharing their skin color. It's always an extreme. The worst "SJW" stereotypes represent everyone who doesn't fall right of whatever center is considered where they live, Muslim extremists represent all people from northern Africa, the Middle East, central Asia, some boogeyman evil "globalist" (Soros, Rothschilds) represent all Jews, etc. In the end, everyone who isn't exactly like them is out to get them, their money, their women, and the only solution is to rid their country/countries of these terrible Others.

    12. Re:Racism is something different by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Aww, isn't that sweet? I've got modded down for replying in a measured way, responding with logical arguments and avoiding ad hominem attacks on people that disagree with me. So much for the "Grow the fuck up and have adult conversations" part of things. You see, this is the real reason why there is no adult debate about these and other difficult issues - us on the so-called left are trying, we really are, but you guys aren't playing ball, and I think we all know why: you don't have any arguments, and you don't have the balls to face up to the truth.

    13. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is Muslim a race now? How is it any more a race than nerds being a race of people?

      List of contemporary ethnic groups

    14. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for taking the time to write that on a website that is long past its prime. Most of these types are not interested in discussion and think the purpose of comments sections is being a means to push their propaganda without having to think. I'm guessing they likely didn't read your comment, or beyond a few sentences, and are busy on other comments sections by now posting the same or similar comments.

    15. Re:Racism is something different by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      If a white Christian says something vile, it's just them exercising their right to free speech. If a brown Muslim does the same, the world is ending.

      It seems like it's the other way around. Leftists are constantly scrutinizing anything their political enemies say for secret, coded racism, "dog whistles," anything they can use to accuse someone of thought crime, because maybe liking your own culture or ethnic group a little more than others is horrible and evil and you're a monster who should be ostracized from society. However, be a 7th century religious zealot from goatfucker land and say "Islam will dominate the world, we will kill all of you infidels for Allah, we will take your lands, your sons shall be our slaves and your daughters our whores" and the left thinks you're just swell, rolls out the red carpet for you and gives you keys to a truck.

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    16. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8%?

      Holy shit! That's a shockingly high number of foreigners who won't integrate to bring into your country.

      I would have assumed the number was much much lower by at least an order of magnitude.

      Although there's too many to deport now at least they've a;ready given you a taste of your future with the raping and the murdering and general crazy so it won't at all be a surprise to anyone when the truly nazi like fascists get elected and they implement nazi like camps for your violently psycho Muslim population in an effort to save your existence.

      Of course that could have all been avoided if you had an intelligent and well managed integration and immigration policy instead of the completely stupid open doors bullshit you have now.

      Good luck! Let's talk in 20-30 years to see how importing the most psycho conservatives on the planet works out for you.

    17. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Discuss.

      You just love to walk in to the middle of a conversation and tell people what they should be talking about. Goddamn lefties like you always want to control the conversation.

    18. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like what Hitler did.

    19. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Terrorist, leading cause of terror. News at 11.

    20. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if the videos still on YouTube, it seems that the imams right to free speech was as protected as the white preachers. had the club been attacked by a Christian, the link would just point to a different but similar article about a different actor.

      maybe I missed the part where 1st amendment was claimed to be the privelege of white christians

    21. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting butt hurt about mod points doesn't help your original post.

    22. Re: Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind if like the propoganda you just wrote ?

    23. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like it's the other way around.

      Well, it may seem that way to you, but it isn't. You've been fooled by the media.

      Reality doesn't care how things "seem" like to you.

      Leftists

      ...are mostly white Christians. You know the type - the naive young white young adult who got brainwashed by public education system, still living in his or her parent's basement because they took that useless degree, so they become SJWs on social media virtue signaling and apologizing for their race.

      They're the privileged white girls complaining about the patriarchy.

      They're the guy who goes "well as a white guy, I can't actually speak on the subject, so let me introduce this black lady to do it".

      The left doesn't appear to be full of whites only because, as hinted from above, they disproportionately focus on minorities and push them in front of the media. Behind the camera, the majority, including the majority of people holding real power and privilege (the things the left ironically complains about) are whites.

      So it's not the other way around. When you say it is leftist who say vile things, you are really just confirming that it is White Christians who say vile things.

      I know you really want to believe that the left and Christians (or religion in general, really) are polar opposites. They aren't. They're like the Sith Rule of Two. They may feud each other for supremacy and that may *seem* like they are in opposition to each other, but in reality they both fell from the same tree of poisoned fruit.

    24. Re:Racism is something different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, you are racists – by your own logic.

      You say that because all (or most) terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims there must be something inherently wrong with Islam and that all Muslims should be assumed to be terrorists or have terroristic sympathies.

      Well, all racist attacks in the U.S. are carried out by evangelical Christian Republicans. You won’t find any liberals or Jews wearing white robes and burning crosses. You don’t see many atheistic socialists running into black churches to murder people in the hopes of starting a race war. Only evangelical Christian Republicans do such things.

      So, by your own logic, that means there is something inherently wrong with evangelical Christians and Republicans and that all of you must be assumed to be racist or racist sympathizers.

  21. This is a nice summary of our times. by dschiptsov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ex-USSR uneducated, radicalized, revanshistic scum is killing people producing innovations in the heart of progressive, liberal Europe.

    1. Re:This is a nice summary of our times. by XparXnoiaX · · Score: 1

      It's older than that, mate, read history. "Barbaric" outsiders have been invading "civilized" areas for as long as cities have existed. And the 'civilized' folks have always talked about it in terms similar to yours, with nothing but disdain up until they are destroyed.

      It's an old cycle.

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  22. Purpose of solemnity by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given the tragedy that occurred comments like yours are juts appalling!

    People died here!

    The only purpose of solemnity is control.

    Once you get people to be solemn in extreme cases, over time you can slowly get people to agree in less compelling situations.

    Eventually, everything becomes serious, everything is "not a joking matter".

    DOES THIS SEEM FUNNY TO YOU? HUH? HUH? DOES IT?

    Well... yes it does, actually.

    1. Re:Purpose of solemnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The only purpose of solemnity is control.

      Yup. So "funny" people don't get thrown off bridges when they're being funny, at inappropriate moments.

    2. Re:Purpose of solemnity by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Yes, this is funny. Actually, the whole office loved it. Of course with the infamous "ho-ho-ho" laughter that people break into when they are laughing about something but shouldn't because "it's inappropriate".

      Fuck that! Like George Carlin said, "You can't joke about rape? Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See? It's funny!"

      Laughter is anathema to terrorism. Because terrorism aims at striking fear into your heart, and anyone laughing is not afraid. So yes, you should joke about it. Actually, you must. So should some religious asshole blow my ass sky high, be sure to not mourn but make a funny meme out of it, and spread it across the globe for everyone to laugh and ridicule that bastard, turn his attempt at scaring you into a laughing matter!

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    3. Re: Purpose of solemnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If a hater takes my life I pray he sees me smiling" - Rick Ross

      xD

  23. let go. by lucm · · Score: 1

    Do like me: opt out of moderation. That way you can thank people or tell them to go fuck themselves without worrying about your mod points. It's the zen thing to do.

    “Although gold dust is precious, when it gets in your eyes, it obstructs your vision."
    - Hsi Tang

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    lucm, indeed.
    1. Re: let go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are literally incoherent.

      Take your meds, Steven.

    2. Re:let go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're out of your mind. Also, almost all of the comments in this thread sound straight out of Breitbart, including yours, just like every thread related to politics here the past year or so.

      Some people here are sick of the far right shit, and whatever bit of far left shit that very rarely pops up (not exactly the place to attract those types of people), and votes that shit down, while others, like yourself, vote it up. You can't have it completely your way unless you somehow are given control of the website and decide to remove moderator privilege from everyone that doesn't share your views.

    3. Re:let go. by lucm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some people here are sick of the far right shit

      By "far right shit", you mean what, people saying that Trump was a better choice than Clinton? Or that taking in boatloads of Syrian refugees is a bad idea? Nowadays that's what pass as "far right" because the leftist activists have moved the axis with their constant SJW crap.

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      lucm, indeed.
    4. Re:let go. by smallfries · · Score: 0

      The far right hasn't changed so much: you are still obsessed with the color of people's skin and trying to divide the world into separate groups of us and them that you can control more easily. The uniform is not so well hidden under this "alt right" veneer of "respectability". You are still defined by what you hate.

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    5. Re:let go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, it's the far right that's obsessed with the colour of people's skin and dividing the world into groups to control? The far left could have fooled me.

    6. Re:let go. by smallfries · · Score: 1

      The far left has always obsessed with people's ideologies more than their genetics. It would be more accurate to say that the far left obsess over the color of people's thoughts, while the right fusses over the color of their skin. Dividing the world into groups to control is common to extremists of all kinds.

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    7. Re:let go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a bunch of blatantly anti-semitic, racist, and comments praising Hitler in this thread, not, "I like Trump" "Really? You nazi fascist!!" Regular conservative talking points would be welcome for once. Also, the far left boogeyman is not to be found in this thread. Like most everywhere else on the Internet, for every "SJW" fitting the stereotype, there are 100 more people ranting about SJWs. There have long and likely always will be people who take social issues to an extreme, especially when they're younger, but playing them up as if they are all over the place does not fit with reality. Somehow this false "SJW" menace is justification for those who disagree to go to an opposite extreme.

    8. Re:let go. by Papaspud · · Score: 1

      No, the left is ALL about skin color.

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      Everything above is my opinion....YMMV
    9. Re:let go. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      By "far right shit", you mean what, people saying that Trump was a better choice than Clinton? Or that taking in boatloads of Syrian refugees is a bad idea? Nowadays that's what pass as "far right" because the leftist activists have moved the axis with their constant SJW crap.

      There's nothing extreme with being right.
      Yeah, we're further to being right than the left.

      And no, it's not multi-cultural to destroy all cultures in the name of globalism.

      It's not racist to want to have your own people, nation, culture.
      It's not racist to not willingly destroy yourself.
      And even if it was; so fucking what? I still don't agree.

      The majority of the racists in Sweden are the left and immigrants themselves. That's because they think they have something to gain from it, not because they are discriminated against or victims of anything, rather they want to have special-treatment.
      The racists in Sweden are far in-between. To be against rapefugees, Islam and a destroyed society, foreign free-loaders, criminals from eastern Europe and so on isn't racism. It's just being sane. Egoism possibly, but letting all that shit happen to your fellow people that is being an asshole.

      The true racists and destroyer of cultures, nations and ethnicities are the globalists and socialists and those who think they can take advantage of that.

      A diverse planet is one of many peoples and cultures, an easily ruled one is one where there are no feeling of community between the people, no chance to gather up and rise up and no political competition, just the one global agenda and leader to follow with no options.

      They call those who refuse to submit for fascists.

    10. Re: let go. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      So basically you are saying âoeI hate arabs, blacks and russians, but I am not a racist, those who call me racist areâoe. Denial is not just a river in Egypt, you know.

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      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
  24. too soon by lucm · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Comedy is tragedy plus time".

    Rust is still a raw wound, don't pour salt in it.

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    lucm, indeed.
    1. Re:too soon by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It's too early.

      Make Ruby on Rails jokes instead.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    2. Re:too soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Has Rust fallen out of favor?

  25. And what about the other three? by piojo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do care more for this guy than the others because he worked for a tech company? The other three had hobbies, relationships, careers (except the eleven year-old).

    I get that this is a tech news site, but the fact that he worked for a company we've heard of (or that he made a lot of money) does not seem like sufficient cause to care about his death so much more than the other victims.

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    A cat can't teach a dog to bark.
    1. Re:And what about the other three? by XparXnoiaX · · Score: 2

      What makes you think we care about his death? He's just as ephemeral as the rest of us.

      But if you do care, one of the two Swedish victims was an 11-year-old girl on her way home from school. The other was a 31-year-old Belgian woman, visiting Stockholm as a tourist. The other Swedish victim isn't described in the article.

      If you care about the perpetrator, since he is a human too, he is a 39-year-old Uzbek man. In 2014, he had applied for a residence permit in Sweden, but last summer the application was rejected and he faced expulsion. In February, police were instructed to carry out the deportation. But he had disappeared.

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      Irresponsible disclosure is responsible
    2. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you really need to know is that Islam killed again, but don't worry: This is just the beginning.

      In 10 years the streets of Europe will be as bloody as the rubble in Syria, and nobody is to blame except for the European masters who architected their own suicide.

    3. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Birth rate is up in Poland and Russia; looks like the future of the white race is Slavic.

    4. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 10 years the streets of Europe will be as bloody as the rubble in Syria, and nobody is to blame except for the European masters who architected their own suicide.

      When that doesn't happen, what will your tune be then? That it'll be in another 10 years? 5? Some other arbitrary period?

      People like you are utterly useless. A stain.

    5. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like the worlds death and drowning or freezing or whatever from global warming was due years ago, too.

    6. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, fuckwit.

    7. Re:And what about the other three? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

      Do care more for this guy than the others because he worked for a tech company? The other three had hobbies, relationships, careers (except the eleven year-old).

      As far as I know the other three haven't been publicly identified so it's less personal for us with nameless, faceless victims and a whole lot less to say. Not that it really matters who in that it's not a targeted attack like Charlie Hebdo, the victims are just random people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And that's the problem, so many apologists are still looking for a way we've wronged these people that caused them to become terrorists. But we haven't, we are simply kafir and our disbelief in Allah is our crime.

      There was a documentary here in Norway published quite recently called "The Norwegian Islamist", the main character was just convicted to 9 years in prison for terror recruitment. He had agree to the documentary to show "true Islam" and really gave a good look into his world view, it was simple yet terrifying. The world was divided in two, Muslims and non-Muslims. Nations matters not. Laws matters not. As long as he follows Islam, all is justified. Every other word out of his mouth was inshallah, if Allah wills it.

      The Islamic State is the one place on Earth where muslims can live by Allah's laws. Those who oppose the Islamic State oppose Allah, those who oppose Allah must die. He'd publicly applaud terrorists and terrorism, stopping just short of encouraging it in a way that'd be illegal. Basically he'd say something like "praise the brave martyrs in Paris, may Allah open the gates to paradise for you" or something like that. He was sending converts to Iraq/Syria to do "humanitarian aid" and you could just feel the quote marks hanging in the air like a big in-joke.

      I really didn't want to Godwin this post but if you ever wondered how the Nazis managed to justify sending women and children to the gas chambers simply for being Jews then that's exactly how he feels about non-Muslims. It's total war in its purest form, everyone is a legitimate target. And the same goes the other way around, as long as they're martyrs to the cause they're not atrocities. They're not terrorists. They're holy warriors fighting a holy war for Allah and the only thing that matters is to crush your enemies for the glory of Allah. The ultimate in "the ends justify the means".

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    8. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You answered your own question.
      Yes, the reason it's news to us is because he worked at a company which we know and can relate to.
      It doesn't mean we care less about the other victims on a human level, but we don't have any connection to them.

      But you could go further and claim that Steve Jobs death shouldn't have been featured here since it's not strictly tech news.

    9. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if it does happen? Will this person be so useless then?

    10. Re: And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White is not really a race.

      And for that matter it is hardly surprising.
      Poverty and birth rate goes hand in hand.

      Russias economy is going down the drain, that is why Putin needs to antagonize Europe. An external enemy makes the people accept shittyness at home.
      Polands birth rate is a bit surprising since Polands economy isn't that bad really, but it could be a placebo effect.
      Their alt-right have pushed that the country is in the crapper pretty hard, it could be that people are picking up on that and are acting as if things are shittier than they are.

    11. Re:And what about the other three? by robi5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only that. It's always the dead who are widely reported. Injured - not so much. Reading the media, there are the 'critically injured' who are implicitly conveyed as being in a purgatory - either succumbing to their injuries, or leaving the hospital.

      If you think about how many people died in Nice, London etc. and terrorist attacks in general, there's some kind of distribution curve going on. Sure, some of those injured will fully recover. I suppose that, at least as many people who died, if not some multiple of that, are left with permanent disabilities, lifelong medical conditions or unsolvable disfigurements.

      Why is media obsessed with deaths exclusively, when just-not-fatal-enough, or life-altering injuries can be as horrific as, or sometimes even worse than death?

      Where are the statistics and reports that say, X people died, Y people become permanently wheelchair-bound, lost limbs, vital organs or senses, have their face burnt or disfigured, or suffered brain injury, or in some cases, mental trauma, that ended their studies, career or even self-sufficiency? It's not like everyone injured is going home with some scratch wounds or perfectly healing bone fractures.

      A more minor point is, there's initial score keeping of the dead, but as the count creeps up due to losses becoming known, and people dying in medical care subsequently, by the time the real count is known, the media interest subsided, i.e. there's a consistent bias that results in lower perceived impact than in reality. Also, there's shock and anger right then and there, but any interviews on (short)changed lives after the years either never happen or reach a minuscule audience.

      Sure, media don't often artificially generate interest in things that are not of 'right now' time. But, when something like this in Stockholm happened, why don't media report back on outcomes of e.g. the attack in Nice? E.g. how many are still in hospital, or in rehabilitation, how many became wheelchair-bound?

    12. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first victim is a Belgian woman of 31 who was in Stockholm to visit a friend. She was a mom of a 1,5 yr old. Ironically, she worked as a psychologist for the Belgian Immigration office and assisted refugees.

    13. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His world view may have been very simple, but it wasn't representative of the wider world. Look at Iraq, two different factions of islam (akin to protestant and catholic) killing each other for being in the wrong faction of islam (again, akin to protestant and catholic).

    14. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >...does not seem like sufficient cause to care...

      But it is enough to get a mention on a tech-news website. No one is crying or sending flowers, but it is enough to mention his name on a tech-news site.

      I have read sports-news sites that mention when a player is involved with non-sports news. Because it is interesting to the website's readers.
      But yes the other people DO deserve attention & love and reflection too... it's just for the regular news & not this tech-specific nes.

    15. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so many apologists are still looking for a way we've wronged these people that caused them to become terrorists. But we haven't, we are simply kafir [wikipedia.org] and our disbelief in Allah is our crime.

      That might very well be true, for a small amount of fanatic nutjobs. But if western countries hadn't financed them and gave them weapons, they wouldn't have the resources to fund the Islamic state and fight a war. And if we hadn't occupied their territories, it would be way more difficult for them to recruit followers.

    16. Re:And what about the other three? by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      You want the media to be discerning and detailed in their reporting, to show the various levels of gray rather than simply reporting black and white, and to not chase after the latest fad.

      You're asking too much of mainstream media.

    17. Re:And what about the other three? by Tailhook · · Score: 2

      Do care more for this guy than the others because he worked for a tech company?

      Yes. Had the victims been safely confined to unremarkable plebs and not included a figure from one of vaunted fight-the-man music streaming outfits you can be certain there would have been no mention of these events on Slashdot. Quite the opposite.

      Twitter has already buried his account ("Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!") , but if you dig it out of Google's cache you find Chris retweeting Obama campaign playlists. No surprise. One wonders if he too spent time down modding wrong-think "racists" in his online safe spaces.

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    18. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're asking too much of mainstream media."

      So what's this supposed to mean? You know of some magical media that's not mainstream, and at the same time not extremist?

      Because all I see is this brown right-wing hate machine which on it's own is polarizing and radicalizing our society. Fuck it how tired I am of this shit :(

    19. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck me, i havent been to slashdot for a long time, but looking at the replies to your thread i didnt expect of all things that it would turn into a refuge for white supremacists.

    20. Re:And what about the other three? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Do care more for this guy than the others because he worked for a tech company?

      On slashdot? Well.... yeah.

    21. Re:And what about the other three? by Papaspud · · Score: 1

      Karma?

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    22. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bothered to think about it for two seconds you'd realize that, from their point of view, sunnis/shi'ites consider the others to be heretics and thus the same as kafir.

    23. Re:And what about the other three? by ath1901 · · Score: 1

      I find it very disturbing how the presentation changes when the victim was supposedly "special" and not just anyone. The implication is that we should care more because he was an executive for a well known company. But why? What if I don't like Spotify? Should I care less then? I sure hope not.

      I wish the media would try *not* to make headlines when these things happen. It may have more "news value" when someone famous dies but now is not the time to think about scoops or clicks. It isn't more tragic if someone famous dies, just as it isn't less tragic when one of us dies.

    24. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm honestly surprised you got a +5 moderation here. Not long ago, somebody posted that it was false that Muslims hate us for our freedoms, and that the real reason is because because America are imperialists, and that post got +5 moderation as well. Obviously, only one of these descriptions can be real, and I'm betting on yours.

      Why? Well, for the life of me I can't see why somebody would perform a terror attack in places like France, Norway, and Sweden, all because of America.

    25. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do care more for this guy than the others because he worked for a tech company? The other three had hobbies, relationships, careers (except the eleven year-old).

      I get that this is a tech news site, but the fact that he worked for a company we've heard of (or that he made a lot of money) does not seem like sufficient cause to care about his death so much more than the other victims.

      It's been reported that nine civilians (including four children) were killed by the US in its recent Syrian attack. Scanning through various news outlets it's clear that these lives matter far less than the lives lost in the attack in Stockholm. One highlight: The Eiffel tower's lights were switched off for a short time out of respect for the lives lost in Stockholm.

      I remember particularly the attacks in Paris which sparked great emotion in so many people throughout the English-speaking world. Few tears were spared for the hundreds of thousands of innocent lives taken by the US as it has warred in the middle-east.

      What determines the relative importance of a life continues to elude me.

    26. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News is a consumable product. As with all other consumables, people can consume just so much of one product before starting to reject it (in case of news: not paying attention, change channel, browse another site).

      More detail about injured people would enter on "potential reject" territory. It's that simple.

    27. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't have the attention span long enough to find out the final outcome of the injured. If they can hang on for more than a few days, even their deaths will not get reported.

    28. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Privacy of living individuals.

    29. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cunts like yourself always have to find something to be angry about.

    30. Re:And what about the other three? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So. They made someone in the country already that they knew was in the country, desperate.

       
      Not excusing the murders, and not excusing the people who set this up to happen, the politicians, the idiot voters.

       
      Many of you idiots will take away only one thing, islam baaaaad. Frankly, you deserve what happened to these people way, way more than they did.

  26. well if you want to save europe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    then you damn nerds need to start fucking, and then don't let your feminist hairy armpit wife abort your kid just because it might interfere with her important work of harassing tech companies for not being diverse enough...

    1. Re:well if you want to save europe... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I know lots of people who are fucking like crazy but alas, no success.

      One of them mentioned that we'd need a female, but I still think that's crazy talk. Females, like any of those would magically appear in our basements.

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  27. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doritos Fritos Oreotos

    We like them because they are algebraic types! What, your language doesn't have algebraic data structures? That's too bad, should have used a real language like Rust. Now excuse me while I algebra up another -tos

  28. Re: Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I had been complicit in her death, then my torment would be deserved.

    Those who allowed the invasion of Islam to destroy Sweden are guilty, complicit, and have the blood of children on their hands.

  29. Re:Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rationally, it is not.

  30. PROPAGANDA BY THE USUAL GLOBALIST ASSHOLES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It's not just an attack. It is an Islamic terrorist attack. Get your story straight and stop being assholes, goddamnit!

  31. Clearly it's not the weapon by Is+Don+the+new+Ron · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm neither for nor against the concept of the private ownership of portable weapons, but I think this is further proof that the question of relatively easy access to such devices has become irrelevant, at least, in cases where a determined would-be killer, whether ideologically motivated or just plain nuts, is involved. Military-style weapons such as bombs and rapid-fire guns have been used, as well as more cumbersome tools as hand guns and knives, and even implements that you won't normally think of as weapons, such as trucks and, yes, cookware (Boston marathon bombing).

    The debate over guns is another matter, but in a discussion about terrorism and other forms of mass murder, it only clouds the issue. We are really better off discussing whether we should ban globalized social media, where individuals from different cultures are exposed to a dangerous fusion of ideas.

    What I mean about such dangerous ideas is that some ideas, while relatively harmless on their own might produce dangerous consequences when combined. Conservative Islam, uprooted from its roots, could produce an inner conflict in a potential terrorist who sees "immoral" women wearing miniskirts and men drinking and doing drugs in broad daylight, actions that would be improper at worst to a culturally acclimatized member of a liberal society. Now if such ideas are restricted to the region of their origin, where such ideas are deemed conventional rather than radical, then maybe we can reduce incidents of ideological schizophrenia that lead to the random acts of violence that we call terrorism.

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    1. Re:Clearly it's not the weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How ironic - there is this guy who is all against gun regulation, but he is the first to support laws that restrict freedom of expression. Isn't it funny ?

      I still owe you a point about social media, though banning "globalized social media" wouldn't solve anything, as the problem will pop at another unexpected place.

      You can't stop progress, you've got to figure out a way to live with it. Globalized communication is part of this progress.

    2. Re:Clearly it's not the weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you think that?

      While the truck in this case wasn't equipped with automatic braking it had to run over some hinders that caused significant noise and made it so that most people could get away. A death count of four is about as low as it can get when it comes to terrorist attacks.
      It is comparable to the previous terrorist attack in Sweden two years ago when an alt-righter attacked children at a a school with a sword. (Also four dead.)

      If guns had been readily available in either of those cases the death toll could easily have gone up to Breivik numbers so clearly making in inconvenient to get guns helps to some degree.
      I also don't see how banning global social media is going to help. In most cases the radicalization is done by people living close. Even for middle eastern terrorists there are recruiters stationed everywhere, and to be frank, terrorists were able to operate before social media, it just spreads more terror now.

      If you really want to stop terrorism you need to make sure that people to have a reason to resort to that. That means that we need better psychiatric help in the west and that the middle east has to be stabilized.
      Stabilizing the middle east isn't going to be done by bombing a new country every ten years. It would be necessary to pick a country and keep an army stationed there for at least two generations so that a population can grow up without war and terrorist factions being the norm.

      Not that terrorism really is a big issue in the west. Things like car accidents causes a lot more deaths and is much easier and cheaper to reduce.
      That doesn't mean that we shouldn't take actions to prevent terrorism, but there is no reason to dismantle a functioning legal system or close the borders North Korean style because of it.

  32. Basement dwellers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a feeling many don't even work in tech. They have some shit low skill job or are mooching off their parents and troll comments all fucking day and night looking (when they're not at work, if they have a job) for anything where they can spew their hate and propaganda.

    I think most of the old school /. crowd has long gone. Suggest ditching this place for Hacker News or anywhere better since no one really controls this site anymore beyond choosing which articles to post and the far right spam all the comment threads now.

    1. Re:Basement dwellers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hacker News is a millennial safe space. They don't want you, fuckface.

  33. move on by lucm · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Sweden is a runner-up for rapes per capita, fighting with Botswana for the second spot (after South Africa).

    Really messes with a statistics if you have a country like Sweden classify consensual sex, with non-consensual condom disappearance, as rape.

    They should just call it the Assange sexual offense.

    Wait, Assange apologists still exist? I though you guys had given up when he lied about surrendering if Obama granted clemency to Manning.

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    1. Re:move on by quax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't see how this counts as an Assange apology. I consider him an asswipe but not much of a rapist. Just states the facts of the case as I understand them. If anything this makes him burrowing in that embassy even more ridiculous.

      The main point was to explain why the statics is so skewed.

    2. Re:move on by lucm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't see how this counts as an Assange apology. I consider him an asswipe but not much of a rapist.

      It's not a simple case of "condom disappearance".

      He insisted a lot (apparently it's a thing with him) but the girl said she didn't want sex without a condom. A couple hours later she wakes up with him inside her, fucking her and not wearing a condom. Of course the Assange apologists focus on the condom thing to spin it as some kind of pathetic argument. But can you please explain how someone can give consent in their sleep?

      When it comes to determining if something is rape or not, here's a simple test: ask yourself how you'd feel about it if it was your daughter or sister. If your daughter had woken up with that guy's dick inside her, would you chalk it off as skewed statistics and give her a stern talk about making wild accusations?

      We're not talking about switch rape, or mental rape, or some other bullshit rape. We're talking about non-consensual sex with a sleeping partner, and going at it without a condom to add insult to injury.

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    3. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Suddenly you seem well versed in the details of swedish rape cases, yet only a few posts ago you were parroting the well-trodden shit about the "rape capital" of the world. If all countries had sweden's level of reporting and definition of multiple offences then it is unlikely they would continue to have the highest stats. Either you suffer from "selective understanding" or you really need to troll harder.

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    4. Re:move on by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      The point was exactly that, Sweden law considers it a rape while you wouldn't.

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    5. Re:move on by quax · · Score: 1

      Didn't know about the assault while asleep part. Certainly much worse, and definitely rape as I understand the term.

      Not that a disappearing condom is a laughing matter either.

    6. Re:move on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muslims, whites and blacks (by Jew Soros) are being played to annihilate one another. Read this, think it over https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54205123/ for yourself and decide. No one proves it incorrect factually. The vidlink at the start of it really gives it away with minusmods of other spots it's posted shown. Jew Jared Kushner and his 666 building is next http://www.bing.com/search?q=Jared+Kushner+and+666&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IESR02&pc=EUPP_/

    7. Re:move on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought we hanged all of you at Nuremberg, but I guess we missed a couple. Darn.

    8. Re:move on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're trying to say that Spain, France, England, Italy Romans, Russians are Nazis for banishing Jews? Ha! Hungary kicked out Soros the Jew too more recently. Hitler's gas and incinerators missed a few of you too! You can blame George Soros for that. He worked for Hitler sending his own into that.

    9. Re:move on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's certainly a serious offence, if true. But: I have trouble imaging what sort of evidence there could be for this, short of an actual audio or video recording. And when someone - as Assange did - gets up the noses of some very powerful people, and shortly afterwards is accused of a serious crime without any evidence thereof ... I tend to be skeptical.

    10. Re: move on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't tell Mary about this. That's of course how baby Jesus was created. Slick Joseph stuck his dick inside her while she was snoozing. That's the reason he didn't have to pay any child support xD

    11. Re:move on by quax · · Score: 1

      Who cares what I call it.

      The point was because outside Sweden it is not counted as rape, the statistics compares apples with oranges. Why is that so hard to understand?

    12. Re:move on by lucm · · Score: 1

      I understand that, but do a bit of research to see who the two victims were (one was a local politician) and how this basically destroyed their lives. And I don't mean just the rape, but also the death threats and rape threats they received from countless Assange apologists accusing them of being CIA shills and whatnot. This is an ugly affair.

      Not that it's above the CIA to do this kind of dirty trick, but if you take the time to fully understand the context and the aftermath you'll see that it's truly a shame.

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    13. Re:move on by axewolf · · Score: 0

      Sweden, being one of the most developed and content countries in the world, should have one of the lowest rates, even considering this "inflation" of the count.

      Doublethink is not cute.

    14. Re:move on by lucm · · Score: 1

      He said she said, too much on the table to believe what she said.

      Yes, let's give a license to rape to famous people. They earned it.

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    15. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Suddenly you seem well versed in the details of swedish rape cases, yet only a few posts ago you were parroting the well-trodden shit about the "rape capital" of the world. If all countries had sweden's level of reporting and definition of multiple offences then it is unlikely they would continue to have the highest stats. Either you suffer from "selective understanding" or you really need to troll harder.

      The truth however is that women report being victims of sexual crimes 2-3 times more now than just a few years ago.

      That have NOTHING with their willingness to report the offence.

      Sure Swedish law provide more protection for women and it's safer to report the offence here. But specific immigrant groups have an over-representation in rape offences of multiple tens of times and as a group all grouped together including those not from that shit-hold part of the world they still had it at the level of 4-5 times like 30 years ago when Sweden wasn't as politically correct and statistics was actually created and revealed. As is with the anti-Swedish traitor-government they of course don't want to have an argument about such things or such numbers published so they simply refuse to create statistics of today. By now with the general progressiveness of western societies maybe we could assume the Swedes rape less and that with war and terror in their native lands maybe they have become even more used to it and maybe even rape more. It will all be speculation because the government hide the truth. A fact however is that an increase of the number of people in Sweden of less than 5% lead to 3 times more sexual crimes.

    16. Re:move on by axewolf · · Score: 0

      Yes, let's give the elite a license to rewrite reality and destroy freedom of speech and every other freedom as well, they earned it

    17. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      You are quite slow of thinking. Trying to fit the world onto your perceptions rather than the other way around will not work. Even if you excitedly yell FACT when you think you have it right.

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    18. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Underlying rate: X.
      Change in reporting standard: Y.

      Without any knowledge of X or Y, you claim that another pair of unknown values for some other country (x and y) should result in XY xy. Why is that? Your doublethink slogan is cute, if somewhat hypocritical, but can you actually provide an explanation for why these four unknown values should produce the comparison that you claim?

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    19. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      No point in reading the whining of a racist fuck like you.

      You repeatedly make claims about the distribution of ethnicity among the population of claimed racists. Do you have any real data to back it up?

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    20. Re:move on by axewolf · · Score: 0

      This is meant to be you Swedes punishment for being strong and taking a stance in WW2.

      Your government is not your own, it is a torture device placed on your people to destroy the threat of their strength forever.

      Whenever you all decide to take up the fight, rest assured, there will be another wave of immigrants that will aid you.

    21. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Oh how scary! An internet tough guy. Sure thing sweetheart.

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    22. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Oh dear, you're not very good at this are you? Deep breath, take pills, try to summon coherent thoughts. I'm sure you can do it if you really try. I believe in you sugar.

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    23. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      That you consider it "racist" is irrelevanta. That's meaningless and it's still true.

      That some idiot had the chance to moderate it troll is just sad.

      As for data of course I have it:
      http://www.dn.se/debatt/kultur...
      https://www.bra.se/download/18... (Bilaga 4, table 1 and 2 page 61 and onwards for instance.)
      This one doesn't have the country-specific data but I never manage to find the original source for it any longer:
      http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/nyh...
      The country-specific data maybe was put together by someone looking at their source data
      https://www.flashback.org/sp57...
      https://politifon.wordpress.co... (You need to consider the number of North-Europeans relative others in Norway for that one.)
      http://gamla.hbl.fi/nyheter/20...
      https://petterssonsblogg.se/20...

      I wouldn't make the claim if it wasn't true but it's never about truthness or the actual source for you guys because the only reason it's asked about is to discredit the claim. Even if it's true and out there and is a fact it will still be considered a worthless point because it's not ok to view people in that way, group them together, irrelevant because not all are sentenced, whatever.

      The fact is still that for some nationalities the over-representation was over 20 times, for two (China and Malaysia or the Philippines or something such) it's actually below 1, sadly most of the asylum seekers to Sweden are rapefugees of those shit cultures.

      We don't have any data for the 21st century because the government doesn't want any created which by itself kinda is data enough.

      https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-o...

      The rapefugee effect is obvious there, and there's the festivals and new year celebrations and such helping explain "why":
      http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyhe...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .. and so on.

    24. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      How sad. It is difficult to say if it is cognitive dissonance with you, or just a lack of ability to reason.

      The opinion piece from DN in 2005 is not data. Can you not tell the difference? A real discussion about "data" would involve issues such as: what were the confounding factors in the study?, what was the method of data collection?, are the results significant? what can be inferred safely from the data and what is over-interpretation?. The report that you link to has been discussed to death, but given that you are putting forward bra.se as an authority, here is what they have to say about it:

      In recent times, simplistic and occasionally completely inaccurate information about Sweden and Swedish migration policy has been disseminated. Here, the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs looks at some of the most common claims.

      Claim: "There has been a major increase in the number of rapes in Sweden."

      Facts: The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen. But the definition of rape has broadened over time, which makes it difficult to compare the figures. It is also misleading to compare the figures with other countries, as many acts that are considered rape under Swedish law are not considered rape in many other countries.

      For example: If a woman in Sweden reports that she has been raped by her husband every night for a year, that is counted as 365 separate offences; in most other countries this would be registered as a single offence, or would not be registered as an offence at all.

      Willingness to report such offences also differs dramatically between countries. A culture in which these crimes are talked about openly, and victims are not blamed, will also have more cases reported. Sweden has made a conscious effort to encourage women to report any offence.

      Claim: "Refugees are behind the increase in crime, but the authorities are covering it up."

      Facts: According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention's Swedish Crime Survey, some 13 per cent of the population were the victim of an offence against them personally in 2015. This is an increase on preceding years, although it is roughly the same level as in 2005.

      The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has conducted two studies into the representation of people from foreign backgrounds among crime suspects, the most recent in 2005. The studies show that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents. The studies also show that the vast majority of people from foreign backgrounds are not suspected of any crimes.

      People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background. According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents. In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. This means factors such as parents' incomes, and the social circumstances in the area in which an individual grew up.

      Swedish government agencies have nothing to gain from covering up statistics and facts; they seek an open and fact-based dialogue. Sweden is an open society governed by a principle of public access to official documents. This means that members of the public, e.g. private individuals and media representatives, have the right to insight into and access to information about the activities of central and local government.

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    25. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The opinion piece from DN in 2005 is not data. Can you not tell the difference?

      BRÃ... has the data and the "opinion piece" is DN cover of that data, the "cultural heritage" claim of it is likely made because adjusting the data for social and economical differences between the groups of people still doesn't put them on equal level. As for doing any such adjustment I just think that result in false values anyway because the reality is that the immigrants are employed less, work less, live on welfare more, have lower education, are mostly men and so on. The real outcome of them coming here include the effect of such factors because they are what they are. Their over-representation is higher than the data isn't adjusted and it's most of it remain even when it is.

      The problem isn't the text in DN or "my failure to provide good links", the problem is rather that the data is so fucking hard to find.
      This one is available as is likely what the DN text block is about:
      https://www.bra.se/download/18...
      It's of course a longer read than the DN piece.

      http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/nyh...
      Lots of places contain the piece saying those with the highest over-representation is from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, I've seen claims with specific numbers for them somewhere but that one is hard to find because there's so many places which bring up those four on this subject so I don't know what to google for to find the one with the actual numbers. But those numbers and those repeated claims must come from somewhere but I don't know where.
      Sweden used to be a world-leader in statistics and it's nothing weird that we've had statistics of these things previously. Statistics people could access and share and make people understand how it was. By now the government however isn't interested in creating such reports over the statistics.
      That I don't know how to find the number (Feel free to call BRÃ... since it's most likely from them and maybe they know, I just don't manage to find the original source numbers by a simple google search and within seconds / by visiting the first hit) doesn't make the data or claim incorrect. It just mean I don't know where it is.

      what were the confounding factors in the study?

      Irrelevant and just an attempt to excuse the raw data. The immigrants are like they are. They aren't Swedes. Any adjusted data would be false data. And the thing is that even if you adjust it they won't be on par with Swedes anyway.
      Sadly we've got Jerzy Sarnecki as researcher and professor in criminology who seem to be of his own political opinion and don't tell how it is and the data in the raw but have to mix in his own political views when "explaining" things ruining the Swedes understanding of these things.
      The over-representation of being registered for any crime whatsoever was 2.5 times and when adjusted (= false) it become 2.1 times. In Swedish media, by people who wanna lie, by people like you, that result in claims that make it sound like that adjustment would make all the difference go away, like it even mattered if it did because THE DIFFERENCE IS THERE, the last time I heard about it in more serious media and not just a communist trolling on social media the claim wasn't that it was completely removed, just that "a large share", the larger share or the majority or something such was removed if one considered socio-economic factors, but that's not the truth, the truth is that it dropped from 2.5 times to 2.1 times, which is a difference but a small one not explaining the majority of it.
      https://www.facebook.com/tino....
      Had the fucking invading parasite plague which it is not been provided with help from the Swedish s

    26. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      It's a shame that you are focusing on quantity over quality - see if you can condense your mess of thoughts into the key points.

      The problem isn't the text in DN or "my failure to provide good links", the problem is rather that the data is so fucking hard to find.

      Yes, that is a standard problem when you try to fit the data to your perceptions. Try doing it the other way around.

      Irrelevant and just an attempt to excuse the raw data. The immigrants are like they are. They aren't Swedes. Any adjusted data would be false data. And the thing is that even if you adjust it they won't be on par with Swedes anyway.

      The confounding factors are never irrelevant to the issue of what the data tells us vs what we project onto it. Do you understand what the confounding factors are in attempting to draw an interpretation from these raw statistics?

      That immigrants commit more crimes than Swedes,

      This is demonstrably false. You seem to be mixing relative and absolute measures, which is understandable given your weak grasp of what has been measured.

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    27. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      It's a shame that you are focusing on quantity over quality - see if you can condense your mess of thoughts into the key points.

      For the sake of any possible Slashdot audience I have to answer the crap you post. It's not like I want to reply to your troll-trash.

      Yes, that is a standard problem when you try to fit the data to your perceptions. Try doing it the other way around.

      The data exist some others have created been able to compile their numbers from it. It's just that I don't know where-from those numbers are.
      If it's from a report it has to be an older report than the 2005 one because the Aftonbladet article about them is from year 2000.
      https://www.facebook.com/tino....
      Seem like those numbers are from the period 1985-1989, 0.0002% of the Swedes registered for rape, 0.0046% of the people from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia and 0.004% of those from Iraq.
      0.004% make them 20 times more common than the 0.0002% of the Swedes, of course it still mean 99.6% of them hadn't been sentenced for rape-offences and 99.98% of the Swedes haven't either.
      Among gang-rapes 1991-1999, 58% of the offenders were Swedish-born and 1/4 was foreigners. I would assume by now the foreigners stand for the majority but since the government doesn't want to process the data and reveal how it is now we don't know. Whatever one could get it for each case from the police I don't know. The political forces in Sweden doesn't want data collected based on ethnicity and once people have gotten a Swedish citizenship maybe they would be counted as Swedes in the statistics regardless of what they actually were/are.
      In the case of the troubles with sex-offenders in swimming halls which we've had recently asylum seekers dominate completely.
      https://www.facebook.com/tino....
      https://www.facebook.com/tino....

      The confounding factors are never irrelevant to the issue of what the data tells us vs what we project onto it. Do you understand what the confounding factors are in attempting to draw an interpretation from these raw statistics?

      The data is the data. It's 100% accurate and the real-deal. It doesn't need any "massaging."

      This is demonstrably false. You seem to be mixing relative and absolute measures, which is understandable given your weak grasp of what has been measured.

      It may be true but of course I mean relatively speaking. I don't mix them. I just was too fast when stating the point. And the relative measure is the only one which is really interesting anyway. Otherwise it would be like stating that the Chinese own more pants than the Sami people, or watch a lot more TV, and sure enough, they do, because they are so many, but ..

    28. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Actually people are less likely to report sexual crimes now then before:
      https://acidmuncher.files.word...
      https://acidmuncher.wordpress....
      Why is open for speculation, I have my ideas ..
      That of course mean that the actual number of people affected by criminal sexual behavior has increased even more the number of reported cases would say.

      Go alternative facts! So exciting!
      Surely you can trust a socialist or want-to-take-control-over-the-culture-and-thought-of-the-people-regime!

    29. Re:move on by smallfries · · Score: 1

      The world that we live in is made of alternative facts. Borges wrote extensively on the hyper-reality that we live within, long before it became fashionable. We deal so infrequently with actual facts that as a species we look at second-hand analyses and inferences and convince ourselves that we are dealing with the real thing. On the subject of which, crime statistics:

      Split a population into three categories:
      A: natives
      B: integrated immigrants
      C: non integrated immigrants

      Assume it takes 10+ years to move from group C to group B (if ever). Assume that the three groups are hetrogeneous in most statistics that we can measure. Any measurement is a sample at a point in time, it does not take into account drift between these categories.

      Where are the raw "facts" now? Do they still exist?

      If the crime rate in (B+C) is 100x larger than in A, what does that tell us about A vs B, or about B vs C? If the measurement lag is 10 years so that it is on the order of magnitude as drift then does it tell us anything at all?

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    30. Re:move on by aliquis · · Score: 1

      http://www.bra.se/download/18....

      2016 vs 2015, reported:
      Sexual harassment: +21%
      Rape: +13%

      2007 to 2016:
      Sexual harassments: +71%
      Rapes: +41%

  34. Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims when the rest of europe punked out (except Lithuania). The muslim isn't the enemy alone (they're being played by these bastards & so is the european white race) https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54204813/

    * That IS "what's up" here, like it or not...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're FOOLS if you don't believe me & it's a HUGE "nobless oblige" in the wealthy & political community being promised "you'll be the RULERS in the end" & they're being played too (which is WHY Hillary Clinton wasn't taken down & were I Trey Gowdy vs. James "COMMIE" Comey I would've used lawyer jew bs there too - IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE vs. the law & yes she broke it evading the DOD/NSA/CIA surveilling UNAUTHORIZED PRIVATE SERVERS she had sending CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET or better info (As an attorney she has NO OUT - as former Secretary of State she cannot claim IGNORANCE either) - WAKE UP FOLKS, this IS the game afoot here... apk

    1. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, little polack. Now go clean toilets.

    2. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Little Juden did you prefer Zyklon B or furnaces? U can't prove him incorrect. Ur reaction shows he's right. U get booted everywhere u go infesting nations like a Juman virus draining them dry to do it someplace else but never to each other.

    3. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skulking in the shadows unidentifiably as always there little Juden? Impossible to get the best of him (your own Juden gave the game away in the link his post leads to).

    4. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It's Jude. Singular. Juden is the plural. At least when you abuse German, do it right.

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    5. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Do you really have nothing better to do than reply to your own posts, AlecStaar? Guess not--you've been doing it for about 20 years now.

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    6. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you figure he replied to himself there? Somehow I don't think apk would call himself little polack and to go clean a toilet. Calling yourself mindless is correct https://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9954349&cid=53427117/ . You lost your mind. on drugs, depression etc. Do you really have nothing better to do than hide behind a fake name online harassing apk? We've all seen you do it many times and from what I read you sent apk a postcard with threats too. Big man (not).

    7. Re: Poles (my ancestors) drove back muslims by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      You have no idea how very obvious you are, do you.

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  35. Disputable by aepervius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are plenty of evidence that some genetic marker are present in certain population, marking certain population to a greater weakness (or sometime strength) against some sickness. But it is disputable that they mark what you would call biological race, as they lack the physical isolation, do not have very specific karyotyp (even the melanine one) in human it is only a more likelyness to have such karyotyp or even a continuum of various karyotyp. The only subset you may do is possibly morphological, but even for that and for the karyotyp, you do not have specific identifier you can assign 100%, you have a continuum. That is why even if you look at various biological book or source, they usually sidestep the issue of human race, not because of the sociological indication, but simply because there is no easy way to separate and quantify those. And no, even skin color do not work that well (morphological races - would put for example part of india with africa).

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    1. Re:Disputable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're essentially substituting the word 'population' for 'race' here, however. This is not a very satisfactory rebuttal since it's merely a semantic game. If the groupings that were originally referred to as 'races' were quite different than those we see various published academic results for under the name of 'populations', of course this would be a solid point. But the correspondences between the clusters we find with e.g. modern genomics, and those that would have been familiar to a 1950s physical anthropologist, are really very high. Which is to say, the 'certain populations' you refer to are just races by a more acceptable name.

    2. Re:Disputable by stdarg · · Score: 1

      you do not have specific identifier you can assign 100%, you have a continuum

      Why is that a problem? It's the paradox of the heap. A grain of sand is not a heap. Two grains are not a heap (in my view). Three grains are not. But as you continue, at some point it is a heap. Many people would disagree on the exact number of grains of sand that make a heap. Yet heaps exist.

    3. Re:Disputable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do not have specific identifier you can assign 100%, you have a continuum.

      Ever heard of a Ring Species?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  36. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be a by Kjella · · Score: 1

    We're covered in all sorts of dusts.

    Angel dust would explain a thing or two...

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  37. Slashdot is trying hard.. by sTERNKERN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    to find any link between "news for nerds" and "Your daily news of terror".

    1. Re:Slashdot is trying hard.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess is their daily views and site activity dropped a lot, since /. is really outdated and better ones exist now, and they discovered their political posts attract far right trolls like bees to honey, like everywhere else on the Internet, which increases site activity, and can't stop now.

    2. Re:Slashdot is trying hard.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better ones exist now

      Where? I haven't found any. Personally, I think the whole tech thing is running out of steam.

    3. Re:Slashdot is trying hard.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me try: the Uzbek man was in fact an assassin for the record labels who hired his organization to take out of one of the management of their enemy number one. The terrorist strike was just a convenient cover.

  38. Re:Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >I have no patience for people who think with their heart.

    Odd. I have no respect for people who don't have a heart.

  39. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why am I not surprised? It's a HOSTS file conspiracy!

  40. Re: Some good news at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 39 year old man from Uzbekistan was the guilty one. People who seem to have been cheering him on to later push their false but simple solutions are, in one word, deplorable. People trying to navigate the extremely difficult shallows of right and wrong vis a vis immigration as best they can should at the worst be replaced with others who can do it better. And here's a hint as to whom not to replace them with: Don't go with the racists. It never ends well.

  41. Racism is group think (collective punishment) by emj · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I heard news articles saying that the local [religous leaders] calling for death to gays

    These are not left/right questions, it is a free speech issue and a rascism/protectionism issue. Here in Scandinavia terror spread from the far right is actually a bigger concern, if we look at terror attacks on our soil. These acts of terror are not done by muslims, and by your logic we should start looking harder at the far right and prohibiting their leaders to express themselves in media. We already hinder free speech, and it is helping to some extent to have consequences when you call for the death of all ZYX, not very harsh though. We are not banning far right activists entry, that's about as ridiculous as your suggestion though.

    So sure your statements are racist, let me use a car analogy; car owners kill a lot of people with their cars, it would make a lot more sense for the US to ban cars from certain high risk areas. Sure they are "accidents" but they do happen consistently and the group of car owners can very well be held responsible, just as you say that the billions of muslims in the world should take responsibilities for the actions of the few.

    In the end when you say "we should not let the group XYZ do ZYX" it's easily rascism.

  42. Re:Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be ali by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Yes, but what kind of life is that? You'd envy the dead.

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  43. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be al by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Dude, that chair creaking under your weight when you move isn't quite a roar.

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  44. Re:Some good news at last by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    People died here!

    So? They do that all over the globe all the time. "4 people died" is a breezy sunny morning in most parts of Africa. Provided that for a change NO militia comes by. Then you could add a zero or two.

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  45. Re:Some good news at last by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Certainly. But care to inform me why I should give a fuck about anyone else dying?

    Or why anyone else should even remotely be bothered by the death of my mom? I bet you didn't even hear about it when she died.

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  46. Re:Some good news at last by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Then it's in good company, thinking with the heart isn't rational either.

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  47. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Thought about it. It's still bullshit. But thanks for wasting 2 seconds of my work day, I appreciate it.

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  48. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You saying Spain, France, England, Romans and Russians are Nazis for banishing Jews? First link in his post says what is going on from a Jew. You deny it?

  49. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is it bullshit? The facts of those nations in history banishing jews is accurate and the video link shows a Jewess saying jews are behind this multi-culturalism problem going on! You a Jew, Opportunist? I'd say you are based on that lame reply.

  50. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad the Nazis fucked up and missed a certain Polish family when they were trying to exterminate them all, too, dumbass.

  51. They didn't (family was in Nazi labor camps) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They didn't (my family was in their labor camps) & is THAT the best you have vs. facts I put out here https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54205123/ ? I saw the video with the Jew woman saying they are behind what is causing a LOT of problems worldwide FORCING IT on nations that obviously don't WANT IT. WTF, are you stupid? She said it literally! Christianity and Islam can't mix. All these problems prove it worldwide. Makes for a good recipe to get Christians and Muslims out of the way getting them to kill one another imo!

    * See subject: My late grandpa & grandma, father, aunts & uncles by the way so you f'd up stupid! They took a family business we had there, starved & impoverished us till we did well in the USA after the war.

    Jews hiding in their neighbor's attic got a whole family killed too (family didn't know the jew snuck up there).

    APK

    P.S.=> Prove otherwise or convince me otherwise, I'm willing to listen. There's no denying Spain, France, Egypt, Arabs (post 1948 & before it, related yet they do NOT get along causing all kinds of problems & wars), England, Romans/Italians, Russia pogroms & yes, under Putin now, and Germany got rid of the Jews. Why? The pull shit. I spoke to many Europeans in 2010 and Jews gang up on say a baker (family was that for 100's of years). They try buy them up & if they don't sell, Jews underwrite a competitor to drop prices so low, it puts the business out - this type of thing made ALL of Europe hate them (fact)... apk

    1. Re:They didn't (family was in Nazi labor camps) by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Being good at business is a crime? I always knew you were a batshit insane Euro, spreading you host file malware, but you have jumped the shark. Get out of your basement.

  52. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Hey! My grandpa died in a concentration camp!

    He fell drunk off a watch tower. But that's not the point now.

    Sorry, but let's say my country has a history of some idiot pretending that the answer to everything bad on the planet is "the Jews". Guess what, it doesn't take the "eternal Jew" for shit to hit the fan. People all over the globe are selfish bastards, that's not limited to a certain ethnic group.

    But to answer your question, no, I'm not Jewish. At least according to a document that belonged to my grandpa that was issued by people who really, really, REALLY thought it's important for some odd reason that he's not. He and me didn't get along too well, but hey, according to you that doesn't matter, what matters is that he's my grandpa, right? It's in the genes, because people are preprogrammed idiot machines that are limited by what their ancestors were.

    And with people like you, I almost believe that.

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  53. EAT YOUR WORDS (that's best ya got?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nations I put out got rid of them (fact) so they felt they are! My work's no malware https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ many here like & use it (how about YOUR non-existent work, Mr. FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIFE? Never saw ware w/ the FAKE NAME "110010001000" on it (lol) - but PROVE IT if so (good luck, lmao, delusional fake name using online weirdo))

    * EAT YOUR WORDS! liar (is telling lies the "best ya got"? Apparently so - you can't prove anything I put out in my post is wrong here https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10467657&cid=54205123/ hahahaha - I knew it & expected utter BULLSHIT like yours & others too. I was right as always... your problem? You cannot beat TRUTH liars (an entire CULT of liars).

    (Would you like matzo balls w/ them as you EAT YOUR WORDS too?)

    APK

    P.S.=> "Good @ business" != ganging up on others - WEAK thugs & criminal CHEATS gang up on others from what I see in this life. Those nations felt that way kicking 'em out like it or not it's fact... apk

  54. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With false name online people like you, I don't believe you! Got indisputable proof you're of German ancestry? No. George Soros a jew said he was German as he sold jews belongings for Nazis & he had "papers" too! That's jews. Liars. Proof's in Soros the nut who thinks he's a God and says he wants to break the USA! Keep wasting your time instead of working this job you obviously don't have. I can waste you all day. This is going to be fun watching you dance to the jew's harp and my tune seeing your further double talk and evasion of proving your words. You can't even prove your name much less your ancestry. Ashamed? Why the false name online then if not? You're up to no good obviously and don't give us that shit about "anonymity" either. That's bullshit. Even Jew Mark Zuckerberg said if you don't use your real name online you have no integrity and are up to no good (more or less). He doesn't use a fake name, right? Right. I can say I am Bill Gates and a Black man I guess and be just like you! 5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording." They do it all the time as lawyers and in business and who is surprised they say that in their talmud? No one.

  55. An "Angry JUDEN" defeated collective downmod!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Angry JUDEN collective downmods things they can't doubletalk their way out of. Jewgle does it 4 "fake news" (truth they hide) too APK. That's the reason for you being down moderated. George Soros the Jew pays his disgruntled minions to do it http://www.bing.com/search?q=Groups+George+Soros+funds&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IESR02&pc=EUPP_/ while he tries overthrow the USA and other governments too as he says he is a God (and betrayed other jews to hitler). Webmasters under JEWgle's ad money control do it also. No doubt about it. Everyone knows it. You hit the truth and they are scared. Jews yell to high heaven "holocaust" over 6 million jews dead. How many others died? Russians, Poles, and US soldiers alone accounted for FAR more each individually. Now you talk about their lies and they have to hide it. You aren't allowed to show truth! Only JUDEN APPROVED fake news. Who controls the presses? Judes!

  56. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Actually, funny enough, I have proof that you'd probably even accept. I just honestly don't really care enough about the opinion of someone like you.

    Because I know how it continues. I've been there before. You'd just lament how horrible it is that a good decent Aryan like me is falling for the Jewish plot of total annihilation of the human race. Except Jews, of course. And Commies, let's not forget about the Commies.

    For some odd reason, the likes of you don't die out. The most recent idiocy is how Jews conspire with Muslims to get the downfall of humanity going. Because Jews and Muslims are great buddies. But sense and logic isn't really the big topic when it comes to simple solutions based on hatred.

    Your philosophy can be summed up with a simple creed: I fail as a human, and I don't want to take the blame, so the Jew is to blame. Or the Muslim. Or the Mexican. Or the establishment. Or someone else, the scapegoat du jour. But not me! I'm not to blame that my life is going to waste!

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  57. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove it. You can't. You care. You just projected it. Why else keep evading proof and doubletalking? You fail as an honest human being. We don't die since we don't end up in Zyklon B gas chambers or ovens! Your philosophy of doubletalk and no proof of your words is hilarious. You are being shredded logically doing it to yourself really and can't blame anyone else. You are caught in a logical knot you can't escape and you know it. No amount of your bullshit makes it stop stinking you know.

  58. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody here said Jews + Muslims are working together. Show us where they did. You running out of crap to spew putting words in our mouths as you can't back up your lie? I think so by now. It seems apk suspects jews are causing trouble with their world social experiment which a jew admits they are indeed behind in APK's post's first link! From what I read using muslims whose faith is nothing like christian and they don't mesh. I am a Christian. I don't cut off the heads of those that don't convert. I don't treat women they way muslims do. The cultures are too unalike and proof is in the pudding. They do not mesh.

  59. Reporting by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    While a slippery slope I'd question, or at least be a bit critical of those stats. I say this because I believe in certain cases the actual reporting to which those stats get built from are going to be highly influenced by how easy it might be for the victim to come forward and report the rape in the first place. The three countries you list, I suspect would likely have many challenges to the reporting I think.

  60. By the way: /.ers disagree... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

    I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

    take a look at the APK hosts file engine by SuperKendall

    APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

    I like your host file system by Karmashock

    I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech

    * My code's liked + recommended & hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

    (Want more? I've got 'em - "Ask & ye SHALL receive" (much to your own dismay libeler)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Your lies CANNOT defeat "The LORD of Hosts" (so to speak) - ENJOY EATING YOUR WORDS fool, lol... apk

  61. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Nobody here said Jews + Muslims are working together

    Although, if you notice....Israel and Saudi Arabia should be mortal enemies, but for someone reason they never talk shit about each other...

  62. Re:Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be ali by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only his memory would be safe, not his logical arguments.

  63. Re:Jews behind it are using 2 enemies to... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So where's proof of you actually being of german descent-ancestry you said you had? You're also projecting you care again. Can't you keep your word? Changing the subject is non-sequitur also. Apk noted the jewish woman said jews started the entire problem and I saw the video with her saying jews are responsible for forcing something on nations they didn't ask for in multi-culturalism forced immigrant acceptance that is causing problems because of their unwanted social experiment. Apk also was accurate enough on jews being banned from 8 nations so if you can't prove him inaccurate what is your point? Burying where you can't back up your own words?

  64. Re: Had he been a Rust programmer he'd still be a by Talderas · · Score: 1

    I'm just glad that Weird Al finally wrote an anthem for you guys.

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  65. Not dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not dead, just transplanted.

    Or migrated. Involuntarily refuged.

  66. stfw/stfu, whichever by lucm · · Score: 1

    Suddenly you seem well versed in the details of swedish rape cases

    No. Just in this one, which has been amply documented. Use that "google" thing you'll see.

    yet only a few posts ago you were parroting the well-trodden shit about the "rape capital" of the world.

    This is actually from Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Look at the table then click on the small arrows to sort numbers, you will see what country comes third.

    But hey, don't let extremely simple google queries stand in the way of your arrogance.

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  67. language by lucm · · Score: 0

    When your wife or daughter gets gang raped in Sweden by some Muslim barbarians

    I think the technical term is "temporary marriage".

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  68. Whacko druggie, quit stalking me, ok? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject, you loony boy druggie whacko (you admitted all of that shown here) https://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9954349&cid=53427117/

    * Weirdo...

    (Sending me postcards like the deluded fake name for your fake life too? Please - get more psychiatric help - you need it!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You named yourself well as has been said before of you - you truly ARE mindless (that's what drugs & insanity does, you're proof of it)... apk

  69. terror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought sweden made a big deal of telling trump there are no terrorists in sweden.