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Twitter Allegedly Deleting Negative Tweets About United Airlines' Passenger Abuse (thenextweb.com)
New submitter dooode writes: As you would have read, United just had another Nazi moment where they had to "re-accommodate" a customer using some (not so gentle) force. The social web seems to have been taken by a storm by this incident. But suddenly people are noticing their tweets are being deleted -- some of them merely status questions. Does twitter make money (read bribes) to delete negative tweets? What do you feel about it? The Next Web adds that "some of the allegedly deleted tweets did not directly mention the incident with the forcibly removed passenger." On the flip side, "some of the initial tweets exposing United Airlines' abusive treatment of passengers are still very much present and actively being reshared on the platform." It's possible that the "allegedly deleted tweets" initially appeared as replies to now-deleted tweets, but TNW says they contacted several users who rejected that premise, "claiming the missing posts were standard tweets."
Steering people to a platform where they get used to being censored is the entire point of Web 2.0, isn't it? What, do you want people to learn how to host their own webpages again? Luddite.
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He brought this on himself.
Next time should they ask pretty please, with a cherry on top?
Disregard a flight crew AND law enforcement at your own peril. News at 11.
Usually it's phrased "How do you feel?" and "What do you think?". (Perhaps you could ask someone reaching into a dark hole "What do you feel?") Also, you don't normally say "What do you think about it?" because the "about it" part is implied.
"another Nazi moment"
Uh, Godwin's law? If "new submitter dooode" hasn't heard from the news, drawing any such comparisons is very much off-limits.
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...was the bizarre term used by the CEO.
I have no clue whether they "deleted tweets" and if so which and how many about what.
But can people please stop acting surprised when you centralize your communications on a commercial service you do not control, cannot run yourself on your own node because it's proprietary, and which grants itself 100% control of the contents of your communications, and then that service somehow alters or removes things you say? It's all inside their walled garden. You said that was OK when you signed up.
If you give control to someone, don't complain when they use it.
Twitter has obviously gotten WAY away from being a Common Carrier in any sense, since they are constantly cherry-picking what is and is not allowed to be seen.
Someone needs to file a lawsuit over this and soon, so Twitter can go back to being a platform.
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From corporations, their customers, or the government. An overreaction all around and that includes the passenger as well as the videos that neglected to show what happened beforehand.
Having been bumped from flights it's not a fun experience and I even missed a job interview because of that. But please let's all act like adults. We bought into this notion and now look what's happened. The combined of deregulation and the rise of the police state allows us very few choices in flying cattle cars that can sell seats multiple times to optimize profit. When flying you are not considered a person, you are geese. Not in control and able to be ordered around like children per federal laws.
Blame United. Blame the passenger. Or why not blame all social media for turning us into rage induced narcissists. But most of all look in the mirror and blame yourselves for being boiled to death. You've earned it.
I would be interested to know if UA uses any of the "reputation management companies" on this list. Do they put in the call to Twitter and other social media platforms, or is it handled directly by corporate?
Either way, its all hands on deck for the corporate shills. They will censor where they can, and are already using character assassination as a tactic.
"United just had another Nazi moment "
This is beyond even Gawker grade shit posting.
Twitter deleting posts is a good story.
Whether or not United Airlines calling in the police to drag an uncooperative passenger off the plane (as was their right to do) is crossing the line is a good story.
Calling the actions nazi-esque (which they were not) is kindergarten level bullshit.
But maybe I shouldn't be surprised at how far this site as fallen.
what's twitter? it's become a text based implementation of an Apple style walled garden it would seem.
Steering people to a platform where they get used to being censored is the entire point of Web 2.0, isn't it? What, do you want people to learn how to host their own webpages again? Luddite.
It's clearly hate speech, and should be deleted for that reason.
You wouldn't want people to be able to shout hateful things on the internet, would you?
And besides, it's not the government that's doing it, it's a private company. They can censor anything they want because they're not bound by the constitution, and people are free to leave twitter and start their own social media service.
Also: Gab.aio is a free-speech twitter alternative. Check out their humor channel sometime - it's actually funny!
Gonna Godwin things up right in the summary?
"Free speech has consequences", "They're a private company; they can do whatever they want", "It's not censorship/a First Amendment issue". Right?
Oh wait. Now they're deleting things you agree with, so now it's bad/unacceptable.
Enjoy sleeping in the bed you made.
Simply make a service much like Twitter with a similar name, but controlled by the users, not a soulless, bought-and-paid for corrupt corporation and it's bullshit owners. Democratize that bitch! Also, while you're at it, the 140 character arbitrary bullshit limit has to go, so maybe increase it to... whatever you want to put in your account profile. Then let other people limit how many characters they want to read, as part of THEIR profile, allowing people to decide for themselves, rathr thn frcng ppl to tlk mr & mr lik ths, bc THS SHT s jst FCKNG anyng!
Meanwhile people cowardly watched, took pictures and made videos.
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Of the new United Training Film.
But seriously, the weather, let's see how they compete against Delta. Maybe we can make this an Olympic event
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If only other passengers had GUNS! that would have fixed the problem lickitey-split! hands down ! End of discussion! GUNS ON PLAINS!!!!!111!11 *foams at mouth*
Twitter is racing toward zero value, which is frankly a value it deserves and has always deserved.
No person who can truly be considered a winner in life wastes time on crap like Twitter.
Oh, and United Airlines ? They will be remembered ( after they no longer exist as a business ) as a business-school
case study of "what not to do" coupled with "how not to manage a crisis". What a bunch of idiots, right up to and including
the CEO.
And those cops who dragged the passenger off the plane? Fuck them, they're just a bunch of white trash who get paid to be bullies.
( sadly this describes an alarmingly high percentage of cops, though not all of them ).
When all the governments started acting like Despots.
It gets in the way of calling them out for Acting like Nazis.
Spicer is just an idiot; he needs his Easter Bunny Costume back.
(Yes, really...)
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already pointed this out, but it bears repeating: Nothing will come of this because all the major airlines were allowed to merge into 4 big ones and they tacitly collude to avoid competition. So if you need to fly sooner or later you're going to be a customer of United or you're gonna pay though the nose x10 taking the most round about routes possible (fancy going from LA to Phoenix via Barcelona?).
This is why we used to regulate public services like transportation. But as the saying goes ain't nobody got time for that...
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United ordering him to leave his seat may have been against their own, or FAA, regulations. He has a point there. He could argue to his hearts content to the attendant, pilot, boarding agent, whomever.
Not doing what a police officer orders? At that point it doesn't matter - you have to comply. The place to argue an unlawful police order is a court of law.
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We can't accept that corporatephobes,bigoted trump supporters post such ugly things about minorities such as megacorporations and mega riches.
After all, they're just 1% of the population and a lot of people hate em.
We have no clue what happened to the purported Dr. Inquiring minds wanna know, goddammit! Did he get home? What carrier did he fly back home ? Why was he allowed to get back down the access tube and into the plane? Was he charged?
I think there's a word that applies to situations where corporations utilize the police power of the state to enforce their corporate whims...
China's pretty damn corrupt on it's own merits. It's sheer size makes it look more competitive than it actually is.
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...Web 2.0 is the new democracy, right? Everyone's tweet or post is like a mini vote and we all get what we deserve, right? The interwebs is independent and uncensored and free speech, right?
I've been saving the stream of "united" tweets since Apr 10 15:32. At this point I have close to 4 million tweets saved and over 700MB of data. I may have the deleted tweets, but definitely not if they don't have the word united in them.
I think some users may be confused. I can see in the data that @Jay_Beecher's earliest tweet about united was April 10th 18:12, which seems to be the one he is thinking was deleted. But that tweet is here. If he thinks its gone because he is looking at his normal tweet timeline, then he doesn't understand how Twitter's interface works. It doesn't show tweets that start with an @. Other people I checked (TalkIBC, iknowimbitter, seem to be equally confused.
Based on the data I have, I don't think Twitter deleted any tweets.
Once you start doing rendition flights, old habits are hard to shake.
Anything regarding CHEMTRAILS is deleted....
Dear Sir,
The plane has not "boarded" until the doors have been closed and sealed.
And if a US cop tells me to do something, particularly a CPD, then by fuck I'm going to follow it, or risk having my 6th vertebrae snapped when the officer picks me up in a headlock.
Not that that's going to happen - ever. I'm NEVER visiting the USA ever again, since the fuckers blacklisted me over nothing.
So, it WAS a lawful order, because the plane doors weren't closed and locked, so you lose one internet.
Regards,
AC
This wouldn't happen on Mastodon! It's distributed and decentralized
They are deleting all fake news. They've been ordered to do that.
United are causing a PR nightmare here. There is not enough they can pay twitter to make them take United's side. Just censoring twitter would be pointless given how the mainstream media and every other website is crucifying United.
If we look at the deleted tweet it's clearly using an Indiana Jones clip. Possibly this one. Tagging @IndianaJones (An official studio account) may simply have caused an overzealous account admin to see it and make a copyright complaint.
Twitter would not have the time or desire to monitor all of their feeds.
United would have the time and desire..
So does United have the ability to edit the outgoing @united feed in near real time?
If they do, that would seem contrary to the desires of the eyeballs that fund twitter.
Perhaps the users need an @notunited feed that is not edited.
Of maybe a #nottwitter feed.
Bullshit. It was not a lawful order. You do not have to follow an unlawful order.
Two different lawyer friends both said that they felt that the order to leave the plane was lawful and the customer was in the wrong for refusing to do so. However, that doesn't mean that the customer can't go to court and get a big payout anyway. I asked one for some more details and asked specifically if he felt that the customer was assaulted in being forcibly dragged off the plane. He said that in his opinion he felt that a jury probably wouldn't rule that way. You do need to realize that anything can happen once a jury gets the case, so the fact that he said he didn't think a jury would find that to be assault doesn't mean with absolute certainty that's the verdict they would return. But both lawyers still thought the situation was horribly handled by United and the customer can probably make big money in a settlement as they doubt it will go to trial.
They have no regard for the Truth, freedom of speech, or anything else that doesn't agree with their position, so they delete it or otherwise try to shut people up. This is why they are doomed which is good. There are alternatives to the Twit...
It was literally the in house eventually consistent datastore not being consistent...
Not malice, but incompetence
Several months ago, everyone applauded when Twitter and other tech companies announced that they were going to start censoring content in the war on "fake news".
So, why the surprise now that you are seeing Tweets being deleted? They must have been fake news and, therefore, deserved to be deleted. It was Twitter's patriotic duty to delete them and expose the thoughtcrime, brother.
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Is it really accurate to call it a "Nazi moment"? Were the Nazis in the habit of dragging people off of planes? I mean, I get that it's trendy these days to accuse people of being a Nazi just for disagreeing with you, but...
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