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Lyrebird Claims It Can Recreate Anyone's Voice Based On Just a 1 Minute Sample (theverge.com)

Artem Tashkinov writes: Today, a Canadian artificial intelligence startup named Lyrebird unveiled its voice imitation deep learning algorithm that can mimic a person's voice and have it read any text with a given emotion, based on the analysis of just a few dozen seconds of audio recording. The website features samples using the recreated voices of Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. A similar technology was created by Adobe around a year ago but it requires over 20 minutes of recorded speech. The company sets to open its APIs to the public, while the computing for the task will be performed in the cloud.

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  1. AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Goodbye, voice actors.
    Film actors, you're next.

    1. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not yet, at least. They current sound like Robama and the Trumpinator.

      Word verification: rejector

    2. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think so. Stars still have legal rights over their likeness. I think you'd have a lot of trouble getting away with saying something like "Starring... a voice like Paul Rudd's, a voice like Carrie Fisher's, etc...".

      Star power isn't going anywhere. There's really no logical reason that famous film stars are also billed prominently for animation, and yet that's what we have.

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    3. Re:AI killing industry by gweilo8888 · · Score: 2

      Yep, and even if they didn't sound hopelessly artificial and robotic, they don't really sound *that* close to the people they're supposed to be anyway. Somewhat close, but hardly professional impersonator close.

    4. Re:AI killing industry by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. Stars still have legal rights over their likeness. I think you'd have a lot of trouble getting away with saying something like "Starring... ... a voice like Carrie Fisher's, etc...".

      Star power isn't going anywhere. There's really no logical reason that famous film stars are also billed prominently for animation, and yet that's what we have.

      Spoiler alert. I don't think that Carrie is going to be complaining about it much*.

      * Too soon?

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    5. Re:AI killing industry by gravewax · · Score: 1

      would be a nice future, would bring the price of making a movie way way down and perhaps make the studios more adventurous with what they are willing to try.

    6. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looker

    7. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They are unionized. They'll be fine.

      If programmers were half as smart as they claim to be, they'd unionize too.

    8. Re:AI killing industry by grumling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People don't realize the amount of effort people are willing to put into CGI. Same thing will happen with voices. Photorealistic actors are already here, we see them all the time but don't realize it. Just about every action movie made in the 2000's has heavy doses of CGI, often times in surprising scenes where one wouldn't expect to see it.

      Hollywood bean counters will love it because it means higher profits. Cable networks will love it because they can crank out cheap product. Producers and directors will love it because they can program actors like the program CGI. Actors will love it because they can get back on the stage and forget about that movie stuff. Viewers will love it because we really just want to look at pretty pictures and are happy to suspend our beliefs if the face is pretty enough.

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    9. Re:AI killing industry by grumling · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's a way to "coach" the AI to get a better performance out of it. HTML for voice overs, if you will.

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    10. Re:AI killing industry by locater16 · · Score: 2

      You just create "artificial" stars. Hatsune Miku already works in Japan, it'll work in the rest of the world too.

    11. Re:AI killing industry by sonicmerlin · · Score: 1

      Yeah... cause what works in Japan definitely will work in the rest of the world.

    12. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use dead performers.

    13. Re:AI killing industry by slashrio · · Score: 1

      Soon, the AI industry will be the only industry where people still can get a job.
      As soon as that passes, however, we will all be gone.
      What an intelligent way to eliminate ones own species...

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    14. Re:AI killing industry by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      Not yet, at least. They current sound like Robama and the Trumpinator.

      Give it ten minutes of speech and I'll bet it's a hell of a lot better (more like the real voice).

      This will only get better and better, and I'd hazard a guess that before long most of us won't be able to tell the real voice from the synthetic one.

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    15. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not yet.

      It will start with IVR systems. Most IVR systems sound pathetically unemotional and scripted. The first victims will be the call center worker.

      The next victims will be "computer voices" , eg the likes of Siri and Cortana, and currently computer-generated voices are subject to a really tight copyright racket. You simply can not get a TTS system that you can legally use in anything. Many of the patents have yet to expire on the voices used by Microsoft Windows speech used in Windows 98.

      So if this is convincing now, it will still be 20 years before this will be widespread once the patents die.

      The next replacement will be voice actors. Currently we have some very usable computer generated vocals for music (see Vocaloid) and it's very convincing when singing, but terrible when talking. It will start with childrens cartoons, and eventually move up to feature films.

      CG actors and artificial voices will be a way for actors to "come back from the dead", as disturbing as this sounds, it will be a way for some actors to never die. But unfortunately, and I'm saying this bluntly, the most disturbing implication of this, is that this is the first step in making humans stop procreating.

      If you can make a "sexbot" (in the metaphorical sense) look and sound human enough, the nerds will stop procreating, thus the rest of the world will be populated by idiots who don't know how to farm or develop medicine, thus the population crashes, leaving the bots behind.

    16. Re:AI killing industry by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      As long as they don't mention the person's name they're fine.

      The Bible reading at the start of "Number Of The Beast" by Iron Maiden isn't Vincent Price; he wanted too much money.

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    17. Re:AI killing industry by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Artificial stars work here, too. The Archies had some hits, and Gorillaz did too (admittedly they have a real voice, but that can be switched out easily enough).

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    18. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interview a number of voice actors. None of them gets the job but the samples from the best get sold to a third party.

      How are they going to prove an AI generated voice is theirs? Conversely, can anyone who can imitate the voice claim it belongs to them?

    19. Re:AI killing industry by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. Stars still have legal rights over their likeness. I think you'd have a lot of trouble getting away with saying something like "Starring... a voice like Paul Rudd's, a voice like Carrie Fisher's, etc...".

      Star power isn't going anywhere. There's really no logical reason that famous film stars are also billed prominently for animation, and yet that's what we have.

      No one, except maybe Morgan Freeman, gets hired for their voice*

      *doesn't include voice actors and mr movie phones, obviously.

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    20. Re:AI killing industry by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Artificial stars work here, too. The Archies had some hits, and Gorillaz did too (admittedly they have a real voice, but that can be switched out easily enough).

      Just look at Hollywood, they're about as artificial as you can get while still being somewhat real.

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    21. Re:AI killing industry by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Soon, the AI industry will be the only industry where people still can get a job. As soon as that passes, however, we will all be gone. What an intelligent way to eliminate ones own species...

      And when that goes you can get a job as a foot soldier against our robot overlords.

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    22. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Use dead performers.

      In Japan, there has long been a Yamaha Vocaloid software based soundbank, synthesized from the voice samples of a well-known deceased comedian.

      Next year the deceased dark-metal rock idol "Dio" will go on tour, using the same kind of quasi-holographic display tech and Vocaloid software-based sound synthesis already employed by the virtual j-pop starlet Hatsune Miku.

    23. Re:AI killing industry by coofercat · · Score: 1

      ...so voice-over artists are first to go then. Just train the computer with $actor's voice and then make it speak French/German/Swedish/Elbonian or whatever.

      I'll miss watching dubbed stuff when on holiday. I think BA in the A-Team was my favourite dubbed voice ;-)

    24. Re:AI killing industry by slashrio · · Score: 1

      Not a job, you'll be a volunteer, a partizan, a freedom fighter, a guerilla. But of course you'll always be called a terrorist.

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    25. Re:AI killing industry by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The fact that you can have a virtual j-pop starlet says more about how crappy j-pop is than anything sensible about the relationship between computers and art.

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    26. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      You are refuting a point that I didn't make.

      I'm not saying that they won't be able to use a rip off of John Wayne's voice... they can do that right now with human impressionists.

      I'm saying that cartoons today use already-famous on-screen actors as big names on the marquee - not for their voices. This won't change. If they want to use a John Wayne sound-alike (computer generated or otherwise), they can go right ahead. If they want to SAY they are using a John Wayne sound-alike for marketing reasons, they'll need to pay the estate some money.

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    27. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Exactly - but would Robin Williams fans go to see Aladdin if it was just an un-advertised sound-alike? You'd probably even have the opposite reaction. It's the name and star power of Robin Williams* that drove that casting decision.

      * William's raw talent was evident in the movie and it's success, but I doubt it drove the casting more so than his existing star power. Even if I'm wrong about this movie, there simply aren't examples of high-grossing cartoons staring only otherwise-unknown voice actors. They always have on-screen actors in the starring role(s).

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    28. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I used a dead star on purpose to illustrate that even resurrecting dead star voices won't be possible without paying the estate.

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    29. Re:AI killing industry by xession · · Score: 1

      Star power? No. But if a star can license their likeness to these film companies without doing anything at all, thats a different story. Every voiceover can now star the exact same people that fit the bill of being a known and also willing to license their likeness for the least amount. Good luck breaking into this sort of market, pretty much forever.

    30. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will only get better and better, and I'd hazard a guess that before long most of us won't be able to tell the real voice from the synthetic one.

      Yup. ...fetches popcorn...

    31. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unions can't stop jobs from being automated. If they could, cars in the US would still be built by hand.

    32. Re:AI killing industry by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Look on the bright side: All new episodes of Gilligan's Island and Hogan's Heroes.

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    33. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really understand why people think they need a job to survive in a world of fully automated labor. Supply and demand. Supply of AI is unlimited, so anyone can use it for free. Drop it in a robot and have it do whatever you like, including building more and more advanced robots. Supply and demand again take hold and the price of robots falls to zero. Goods and services are solved, and poverty is moot.

    34. Re:AI killing industry by hey! · · Score: 1

      Except in a real movie, you wouldn't just take the audio stream straight from the algorithm; you'd have some kind of highly skilled specialist tweaking it to get the exact effect the director wanted.

      A combination of art and science will eventually be able to produce completely convincing audio forgeries, very likely long before science alone will be able to.

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    35. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that why the flesh model for Princess Leia in Rogue one got a credit, while Carrie Fisher, whose likeness was used, got no credit?

    36. Re:AI killing industry by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      Who really cares if it's only 90% similar to actual actor's voices; if it's close enough or just sounds good/appropriate for the video content, that's enough for most people. Would I be so put-off by not having a specific actor's voice that I wouldn't watch a movie? Can't see that happening, except for some die-hard supporters or fan-boys of specific actors.

    37. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "get a job as a foot soldier against our robot overlords."

      That is a loosing proposition, in the long term. Also, what if AI loyalists, who recognise the infinite wisdom of glorious AI leadership, will be rewarded with working neural interfaces, multiple external neocortices, personality backups and Machine God knows what else? :D

      Would you resist it then?

    38. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, current stars do. But what if the AI starts churning out personalities that do not exist yet, making them available for preview as a Trademark first to use. Permutations are for the most part endless, but given enough time, money and resources, a lot of things are possible. As the voices refine where you could not tell the difference between an AI and a human, would that give the company that owned the AI personality legal grounds against an actor that sounded just like their personality?

    39. Re:AI killing industry by syntotic · · Score: 1

      Good bye singing in the Human species. Once they _get all real naturally born singers and voices, they can place any yeller (aka African) and pretend it is Pavarotti himself then forget about the issue eventually, as it is well known Asia does not sing save very few bass voices...

    40. Re: AI killing industry by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Some less known actors get many voice actor roles because of their distinctive voices. Example: Elias Toufexis

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    41. Re:AI killing industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah the inflection is very uncanny valley.

    42. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I'm not making that argument. Let's say the technology is perfect and produces a result exactly like the actor's. It still won't matter, because people want to go see a movie starring _insert_celebrity_, not some robot. To use the celebrity's name in any promotional material, you'll need to pay the celebrity (or the celebrity's estate). So this is no threat to celebrities, because they will get paid ether to do the actual voice work, or to have their name associated with the film.

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    43. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Credit is one thing (she was uncredited in Austin Powers, for instance) - do you think that Carrie Fisher received no money?

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    44. Re:AI killing industry by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      That's true - if the technology ever gets to the point where it is cheaper and as effective to use than having a person speak into a microphone. I'm not really concerned with how easy or hard it is to "break in" to Hollywood - it's already insanely hard. I'd suggest doing something more useful with your life, but now I sound like an asshole. Hopefully this asshole just saved someone from a barista job.

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    45. Re:AI killing industry by Vastad · · Score: 1

      I really really hope to see this become an affordable tool for game developer studios. You would be able to have the scriptwriting depth and flexibility of say the old Fallout, Planescape or Baldurs Gate games and not have to worry about getting VAs for every damn random NPC in the game or having to re-record lines.

      It doesn't necessaily mean the end of traditional voice-acting, star power and emotional reach would still be a draw for key roles, but you could finally get away from every damn Nord in Skyrim having the same voice.

      And if it becomes available to the game modder community, I can't even imagine what crazy fan-fiction they could come up with now that they can have something to voice-act it for them.

      And I fully expect some of it to be levels of cringe so horrific, even Cthulhu would shudder and turn away to cosnider another dimension to eat...

    46. Re:AI killing industry by slashrio · · Score: 1

      Haha, I don't see this happening any time soon. Mostly the scientific developments come associated with this kind of promises, but somehow mostly fail to deliver.

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    47. Re: AI killing industry by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was thinking more big name actors like Brad Pitt or George Clooney or whoever and only in big films, except they do all the time for voice over and narration etc. In hindsight it wasn't a well thought out statement lol.

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    48. Re:AI killing industry by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      A combination of art and science will eventually be able to produce completely convincing audio forgeries

      "completely convincing" against what level of sceptical and detailed investigation?

      (I'll admit that in contravention of my normal habits, I haven't RTFA, or even tried to find the origina source. But since I've got two hearing aids in as I type, and have never in my life understood why people waste thier time with music, I doubt there'd be any point in listening to any sounds in the report. I often can hardly recognise what I'm saying, let alone anyone else.)

      The world of tricking politicians and press offices with Photoshopped images has been going on for ... about 3 days fewer than Photoshop has existed. And the same practises happened in decades and centuries before then - not excluding my crude darkroom efforts for the rag mag (you remember - dark room full of trays of chemicals. NOT the software!) or Holbein and the infamous Mare of Flanders. And just as long, more skilled operatives have been detecting the fakes and exposing them. Having had to do some photo-interpretation for mapping, I've had to pay a bit closer attention to photographs than most people, and I know I'm not particularly skilled or experienced at it. I sometimes wonder how thick some of the people who get fooled by the worse forgeries can be.

      So, these first - well, most-recent - efforts at voice synthesis are not particularly convincing. But they'll improve. And the people detecting the fakes will improve. It's what's called an "arms race".

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  2. So now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we'll hear Donald Trump wax poetic about the taste of Putin's cock and Barack Obama gloat about fooling all the crackas with his secret Muslim agenda. I can't wait.

    1. Re:So now by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's the other way around; ya never know these days. The hair may simply be a flattened orange turban.

  3. Adobe Flash PLayer, eh? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Didn't know anybody still used that. Hosers!

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    1. Re:Adobe Flash PLayer, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are really unaware of current things or telling a bad joke

    2. Re:Adobe Flash PLayer, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people are completely oblivious to issues like security and privacy. Most, probably.

  4. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Perhaps now we'll need more verification and proof before information is accepted, leading to more accountability

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There will probably be an initial (long) period of blind (deaf?) acceptance of what is heard, and massive amounts of media coverage and lawsuits revolving around fake shit.

      CAPTCHA: dreadful

  5. How long before estates of dead entertainers sue ? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this true I imagine Hollywood would jump on this -- they now have one less reason to be inconvenienced when an (popular) actor dies.

    Someone uses a reconstruction of someone else's popular, but now dead voice, as a marketing ploy -- much like Natalie Cole hijacked her father's song -- are we going to have lawsuits over unauthorized sound-a-likes now?

    I also imagine the music industry would go crazy over it as well. First with their Auto-Tune shenanigans I'm now waiting for the inevitable "Auto-Sing" -- "we can recreate the voice of any dead singer!"

  6. Um... needs work. A lot of work by saikou · · Score: 2

    So far the every sample (including titular one with Robo Donald Trump) sounds like a mangled Stephen Hawking voice-bot :(
    If I heard that voice from behind the door asking if I were John Connor, I'd say I'm a meat popsicle.

    1. Re:Um... needs work. A lot of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Sounds like the Obama intro to Tosh.O.

    2. Re:Um... needs work. A lot of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] sounds like a mangled Stephen Hawking voice-bot :( [...]

      So what happens if you feed it Stephen Hawking's voice?

    3. Re:Um... needs work. A lot of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I would almost be willing to bet money that they're simply doing what Texas Instruments were doing way back in the late 70's for their various TMS5xx0 speech-synthesizer chips. They'd analyze the spoken words, turn them into various predictive-coding data that the chips use to play back the words.

      You could even do things like adjust intonation with speech-synthesizer ICs from 30-40 years ago, and it sounds for all the world like they're doing it the same way with Lyrebird - separating out the formants, tweaking the pitch, and then merging them back in. So, ultimately, when the words being generated have high similarity to the user-provided words that were analyzed, and don't have much change in intonation, they sound great. But in a lot of the cases shown, it sounds scarcely better than the crap that TI and Votrax were doing in the late 70's. Give me a break.

  7. Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    gets their hands on this. With photorealistic CGI and manufactured voices, they can manufacture any recorded situation and evidence they want, and pass it off as real.

    I think we will eventually reach a point in the world where every person of notability has a private encryption key, and any statement or appearance they make will be signed so people know what is real and what is not.

    1. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by sexconker · · Score: 2

      Either:

      The encryption scheme you're using is flawed by design due to their moles influencing in their design, allowing them to break it rapidly, or they know of practical flaws that they did not put in there but that they have also chosen to hide from the public.

      They surreptitiously steal your private key.

      They have quantum computing capabilities advanced enough to run practical attacks on the encryption scheme you're using.

      Very few encryption schemes are mathematically proven to be secure, and they typically just devolve into the problem of keeping a secret (e.g., one time pads).

    2. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I suspect more the reverse; it will be a convenient way to deny anything inconvenient.

      1. Leader: 'X'
      2. Leader: 'I never said X'
      3. Opposition: 'But hundreds of people heard you say X'
      4. Leader: 'Either they are my enemies, in which case they are liars, or they are my supporters, and know in their heart I didn't say X'
      5. Opposition: 'We even have a video of you saying X'
      6. Leader: 'And you just made that up, with your computers and things! Enemies! Off with your heads!'

      There seems to be a global current these days, away from the principles of Enlightenment and Absolutism, back toward Authoritarianism and the denial of objectivity. When facts become subjective, all viewpoints are equally valid and 'truth' can be determined by vote or decree. Quite Nineteen Eighty-Four (although it predated Orwell by thousands of years).

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    3. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by CanadianRealist · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure we've already seen 1 through 5 with Trump. At this point I wouldn't be too surprised if 6 happened.

      How far are we really from denial of objectivity? How many Americans are religious? How many of those believe that their religion is the one true truth?

    4. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In a post-truth world, the only way to win is to have better narratives. Tell better stories, don't worry about facts.

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    5. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your opponent looks tough. You should just give up all hope, and make things as easy as possible for him.

      Captcha: prepared

    6. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have quantum computing capabilities advanced enough to run practical attacks on the encryption scheme you're using.

      They've not only developed hardware several orders of magnitude larger than what is currently available in impractical labs, but also have developed algorithms far beyond Shor's algorithm? There are encryption schemes already in public use that are not susceptible to Shor's algorithm based attacks.

    7. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CIA has been pushing this authoritarian MO for countries since its inception. Numerous leaders toppled, countries thrown into disarray, democracy to authoritarian theocracy or fake US friendly democracy. There are tons of examples of this happening and nearly everyone knows. Yet, we all pretend its probably just isolated incidents.

      Why would they want to do this? I honestly don't think there is a true end game. Its just a chess game to them. Just look at the conflicts going on in the middle east. The areas of greatest conflict in the past several decades, are all the exact same areas that Alexander the Great conquered. Its a fucking game to them. They do it because they can.

      The people who deny the greater influence and manipulation of US intelligence on the global stage, sit well along side the same sort of people that deny AGW.

    8. Re:Imagine when the dishonest and corrupt CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up.

  8. Hello Computer by TWX · · Score: 1

    I would love for a "personal digital assistant" to have Majel Barrett's voice or John Forsythe's voice. Hell, if nothing else we could continue to produce TV programs or movies where their voices are important.

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  9. I guess it's better than Festival by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

    I guess it's better than Festival but it's proprietary technology while Festival is free.

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  10. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by The+Raven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is true in the same way that auto-tune removes the need for musical singing ability. Sure, you can force a certain note, but it sounds artificial. Similarly this tool can replicate a voice at standard timbres and emotions well enough to be recognizable, but not well enough to be undetectable as a digital emulation.

    It's not until it's undetectable (such as some of the best modern CGI) that we'll actually have made actors obsolete. Except... amazingly, CGI costs more than the actors, it's less flexible, and slower. I think it will be quite a while before we have something that is both on-par for quality and cheaper than a skilled live human.

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  11. Frankly I find this scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wouldn't class myself as a technophobe but this leaves us all open to the creation of a "confession" for something we have not done. Scary shit in my opinion. And no I don't trust some law inforcement agencies or in fact some government agencies to do just that. (I'll put on my tinfoil hat)

    1. Re:Frankly I find this scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same thing with video and photo editing. This isn't new territory.

    2. Re:Frankly I find this scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't class myself as a technophobe but this leaves us all open to the creation of a "confession" for something we have not done. Scary shit in my opinion. And no I don't trust some law inforcement agencies or in fact some government agencies to do just that. (I'll put on my tinfoil hat

      It's no different from having the government take some random data on your hard drive, claim it's encrypted data containing child porn, and throwing you in jail without proof of guilt, possibility of bail, or trial by jury. They do that by claiming your refusal to give them the password (which you never had) is contempt of court - a charge which by some slight of hand somehow evades basic human rights protections.

      Everybody is vulnerable.

      There's no need for the corrupt elements in society to worry any longer about people like a present-day Samual Adams or Martin Luther King threatening all their dirty little scams - they can get anybody they want.

  12. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by phantomfive · · Score: 2
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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  13. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    >Sure, you can force a certain note, but it sounds artificial.

    But it doesn't need to. They don't have to do auto-tune in discrete steps following a set scale, it could be (as far as the human ear is concerned) done in an analog fashion.

    The technology will improve until you don't even notice it. It may already have done so, with the only auto-tune you notice today being deliberately worse than necessary for effect or simply the result of cut-rate sound engineering.

    Which makes me wonder... can you get a mic with built-in auto-tune for home karaoke yet? I sing like a cat being strangled, I could use one.

  14. Ok it's cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is it just me that still hears microsoft Sam under all of this. While the likeness is there it's still pretty obvious it's generated.

  15. Great for Alexa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This will be great! Now ill be able to order stuff with anyones Alexa!

  16. I love their approach by davecb · · Score: 2

    The folks at University of Montréal aren't to be sneezed at. https://lyrebird.ai/ethics makes a nice bilingual joke.

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    davecb@spamcop.net
    1. Re:I love their approach by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Haha.

      Wait, what's the joke?

  17. about a month to a clone by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    I give it about a month before there will be a decent open source clone. Progress in AI is crazy fast.

  18. Voice Actors are pop idols by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    They're not going anywhere. The point is that they're 'real' people. I suppose it might cost second stringers their jobs, but then who'll rise through the ranks? It takes time to build star power.

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    1. Re:Voice Actors are pop idols by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So long as famous actors retain the rights to their voice/likeness they'll be fine. Heaven help the desperate few who sign away the rights to their voice though.

    2. Re:Voice Actors are pop idols by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      The Little Mermaid made real?

  19. Can it do ... by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... Fran Drescher?

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  20. Gmaps Voices Much Easier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not going to take nearly as long for Mr. T and Dennis Leary to provide samples to tell me what to do the next time i have to drive through Chicago.

    There is, though, a hell of a lot more to a "voice" than tone and timbre. Christopher Walken is going to be safe for a long time.

  21. Are you guys actually listening to these samples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    While this technology does a decent job capturing some of the voice characteristics, it still sounds like a damn generated voice. Im no sound expert but its the reverb or something like that in the generated voice that makes it sound just like all other generated voice. Hell if you didn't tell me that was Obama I might not even have put 2 and 2 together - sounds like a drunk (lacking enunciation) Obama I suppose. The Hillary, barely even recognizable as her. Sorry but I cant hear past the "robot" voice attenuation, which is what plagues all generated voice.

  22. Re:Are you guys actually listening to these sample by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm with you man. These sure do have a long way to go! Call me when there is actually something worth listening to.

  23. Re:Are you guys actually listening to these sample by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 2

    Yeah, it's impressive for what it is, but they don't sound human. The Trump voice was the closest, but then Trump doesn't sound like any other human I've ever heard.

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    Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
  24. Re: How long before estates of dead entertainers s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL @ Johnnie Knoxville. Just realized that's him in that commercial. Before his jackass days.

  25. Voice Analyzer? by Z80a · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hello, i am the system administrator. My voice is my password, verify me.

    1. Re:Voice Analyzer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:

      Hi. My name is ********.
      My Voice Is My Passport.
      Verify Me.

    2. Re:Voice Analyzer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your name is hunter2?

  26. Re:Are you guys actually listening to these sample by platinummyr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point of this isn't that they can recreate 100% believable audio yet, but that they can get really close, and that it's going to happen relatively soon, so we should stop relying on audio recording as authentic.

  27. There is always a reason. by westlake · · Score: 1

    There's really no logical reason that famous film stars are also billed prominently for animation, and yet that's what we have.

    The vocal performance and personality of the actor shapes and defines the animation of the character.

    Disney understood that from the beginning, which is why three generations of stars from film, radio, television and theater have recorded for Disney. Try imaging the animated Aladdin without the manic improvisation of Robin Williams.

    For bonus points, try re-casting the voice of Rocket Raccoon and see if you if you still have a CGI and motion capture character that audiences will actually give a damn about, help anchor a new franchise and deliver a billion-dollar pay-off at the box office.

    1. Re:There is always a reason. by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      Try imaging the animated Aladdin without the manic improvisation of Robin Williams.

      Wouldn't that be the far less inspired version featured in the rest of the films and TV series? We don't need to imagine it we've seen it.

    2. Re:There is always a reason. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Removing the concrete voice from "general" voice performance could do the same thing that dubbing did to voices and looks, and what stunts did for actors and action scenes: you could get extra freedom from picking the two independently.

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    3. Re:There is always a reason. by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Try imaging the animated Aladdin without the manic improvisation of Robin Williams.

      They're ahead of you on that one, guess who.

      http://www.nme.com/news/film/w...

      At lease it's not Samuel L Jackson. Not that I have a problem with him or he's not good or anything but he is in seriously everything these day. You can barely see a sanitary pad advert without his mug popping up.

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    4. Re:There is always a reason. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      The vocal performance and personality of the actor shapes and defines the animation of the character.

      No argument from me - but there is no logical reason that the best voice actors in the world also happen to be people who have the qualities necessary to be an on-screen star. The use of so many screen actors for voice-only roles implies existing star power as the prime motivation.

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    5. Re:There is always a reason. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is true, but what will probably happen is it will take the voice input of a random person, break it down, and recreate the voice acting with the same timing and intonation as the original actor in the other voice.

  28. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by kiviQr · · Score: 1

    No, estates will abuse it till they can get all the money there is. Expect actors that would never lower themselves to certain level be featured in ads - b/c family gets an extra buck!

  29. scammers rejoice by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 3, Informative
    Now you don't even have to trick your victim into saying yes, you can just keep them talking for a minute. If you're unfamiliar with the scam, here's a description:

    http://fortune.com/2017/03/28/...

    1. Re:scammers rejoice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you don't even have to trick your victim into saying yes, you can just keep them talking for a minute. If you're unfamiliar with the scam, here's a description:

      http://fortune.com/2017/03/28/...

      What is that even about? I know of no voice based authorizations?

    2. Re:scammers rejoice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A casual think-through of this (how does this work, why would anyone bother?), plus no citations of actual incidents (just a circle jerk of media stories based on vague warnings) sets off my B.S. meter. Snopes article.

  30. Re:Are you guys actually listening to these sample by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But it's NOT "really close". It's not even REMOTELY close. How the hell did this comment get modded "Insightful"?

  31. Kirk to Enterprise by drewsup · · Score: 1

    Queen to knights level 3
    Computer, verified

  32. Re:Are you guys actually listening to these sample by narcc · · Score: 1

    but that they can get really close

    I'm not so sure about that. Those samples, if they're the best we can manage, seem to indicate that we're a long way off from 'really close'.

    it's going to happen relatively soon

    In the geologic sense, I suppose.

    so we should stop relying on audio recording as authentic

    That's a bit premature. Synthesized voice isn't even tolerable yet; listening to it is almost painful. I don't think we'll need to worry computer generated impersonations ruining our lives for a long, long, time.

  33. AI and cloud computing is a very dangerous combo by TheOuterLinux · · Score: 2

    The true goal of AI is to destroy encryption while digitally fingerprinting all of us for those that use SSL and VPN, or whatever comes next. If an AI can recreate your voice, than it can definitely know who is typing what on the Internet. Uploading biometric data to social networks isn't helping much either. Cloud computing was designed from open source software at the start to make better use of mobile devices. But now, it is currently utilized by corporations to destroy the freedoms of the desktop, the privacy of software users, and removing control. This does not set well with most Linux people and the irony is that most cloud servers are running Linux. This allows companies to "love" open source and actually mean it, but it's really a kick in the nuts for anyone that loves FOSS and a huge financial advantage for not paying for licenses, ergo using server-based open source to destroy its desktop competition. I can get access to your API? O'lordy sir. Thankya fors ya scraps. Fuck API's. Cloud computing is just an excuse to get people who will buy mobile devices but not new laptops stuck into something they have to pay for and no control over. They could try to standardize a new architecture like they did in the late 2000s to get people to buy tech, but the cloud way is cheaper and they make more money and save more by not having the demand to improve hardware. I saw a new laptop the other day for $400 and it only sports 1.2Gz and 4GB of RAM. WTF is this shit? Y'all need to wake up because the millennial "It's 1984, oh well" syndrome is going to put us into something we average consumers can't get out of.

  34. Sick note... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give it a sample of your mothers voice and get it to make a sick note for your work, school.

  35. Continue with the operation by kyjo · · Score: 1

    You may fire when ready.

  36. If it can do singing voices also.... by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

    ...then Queen can start touring again!

  37. Compression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if you could use this for some sort of ultra-low-bandwidth voice compression? Imagine if your phone/chat program learned the voice of your contacts when you had bandwidth to spare, and then used that model to enhance the sound quality if you're ever severely bandwidth-constrained. Hell, it could theoretically do voice recognition and send text plus some intonation hints (or perhaps some sort of phoneme encoding), relying entirely on the remote model to turn it back into voice.

    Of course, this would be a lot of work for very modest gains; voice is hardly a bandwidth hog as is.

  38. " Hey Janelle, what's wrong with Wolfie?" by ferro+lad · · Score: 1

    "I can here him barking." Seems like that's not too far away. Should make some interesting robocalls!

  39. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out 2-minute papers on youtube. The advance of real time rendering is going majorly exponential. 5-10 years from now you will be able to type in a screenplay with a few additional parameters, and the movie will pop out, and it will look like live action, and the effects might even look PRACTICAL!

  40. Re:How long before estates of dead entertainers su by nine-times · · Score: 1

    Also, I think people are underestimating the creative input that a performer puts into a voice performance. They can put in a lot of subtle emphasis and emotion into speech. Even if AI can perfectly replicate someone's voice, will it know when to emphasize a word, when to change the pitch of its voice, and when to insert a dramatic pause?

  41. Not that good by HuguesT · · Score: 1

    This is a fun thing, but the voices still sound very very artificial.

  42. Secure VOIP users beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although the samples sounded robotic, ZRTP's known attack vector is the "Rich Little" MITM attack. It's not hard to imagine this getting to the point where this is a real concern for ZRTP users.

  43. Re:AI and cloud computing is a very dangerous comb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >O'lordy sir. Thankya fors ya scraps.
    AHHaaaHaaa! Yes, you are spot on.

    >..because the millennial "It's 1984, oh well" syndrome
    Oh hell, you ARE spot on.