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US Life Expectancy Can Vary By 20 Years Depending On Where You Live (npr.org)
After analyzing records from every U.S. county between 1980 and 2014, Christopher Murray, head of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, and his team found that life expectancy can vary by more than 20 years from county to county. "In counties with the longest lifespans, people tended to live about 87 years, while people in places with the shortest lifespans typically made it only about 67," reports NPR. From the report: The discrepancy is equivalent to the difference between the low-income parts of the developing world and countries with high incomes, Murray notes. For example, it's about the same gap as the difference between people living in Japan, which is among countries with the longest lifespans, and India, which has one of the shortest, Murray says. The U.S. counties with the longest life expectancy are places like Marin County, Calif., and Summit County, Colo. -- communities that are well-off and more highly educated. Counties with the shortest life expectancy tend to have communities that are poorer and less educated. The lowest is in Oglala Lakota County, S.D., which includes the Pine Ridge Native American reservation. Many of the other counties with the lowest life expectancy are clustered along the lower Mississippi River Valley as well as parts of West Virginia and Kentucky, according to the analysis. There's no sign of the gap closing. In fact, it's appears to be widening. Between 1980 and 2014, the gap between the highest and lowest lifespans increased by about two years. The reasons for the gap are complicated. But it looks like the counties with the lowest lifespans haven't made much progress fighting significant health problems such as smoking and obesity. The study has been published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine.
I'm sure the new republican health care plan will provide more comprehensive coverage at much lower costs thus solving americas poor living in third world conditions. /s
Because of the republican party's murderous tenancies, industrial facilities cause known cancer clusters in communities throughout the US.
Not content to merely cause death and disease, the republican party has begun taking healthcare away, in order to accelerate the killing spree.
We don't know how many Americans the republican party will kill in the next 20 years, but they have already produced an impressive trail of corpses.
What does your millenial diet consist of? Manchurian-brand RAMEN NOODLES?
Your life expectancy depends on the difference between your agility score and the shooters agility score
If you live in Detroit you might also be the shooter
You can have progressive taxation and universal healthcare or increasing inequality and more illness, fear, death and guns. Your choice.
Those three things are often correlated, so causation may be falsely determined.
I.E. theoretically it could be (but isn't) that genetically the natives are subject to major diseases that reduce life expectancy.
Or, (almost as unlikely), that area could be infectred by a nasty disease.
Or most likely, it is a matter of money and education, both of which has been systematically denied to the members of the lower class that predominate in that area.
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It's a reasonable bet that the people with lower life expectancy are probably not voting progressive. They have less money, worse jobs and lower life expectancy. They don't see progressive solutions as being in their service. At best progressives will lecture them about how their jobs aren't coming back, they should learn to code, go to university, and move to the rich enclaves on the coasts. Not that conservatives are any better, but conservatives figure out that it's better to pretend to listen, rather than to lecture those with less money, worse jobs and lower life expectancy on how they are all privileged transphobic racists and deserve their lot because of it.
Yep, the "progressive" solution is to make everyone equally sick. (Except for the chosen few, who will be more equal than others.)
I'm making my choice and staying in the US. You, please, make yours and move to Venezuela. It really is awesome out there — haven't you heard of Venezuelan diet, for example? Lose 19 pounds per year — and keep them off for as long as your country remains "progressive"! Guaranteed!
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
If you'd RTFA, you'd have the answer to your question!
Socioeconomic and race/ethnicity factors, behavioral and metabolic risk factors, and health care factors explained 60%, 74%, and 27% of county-level variation in life expectancy, respectively. Combined, these factors explained 74% of this variation. Most of the association between socioeconomic and race/ethnicity factors and life expectancy was mediated through behavioral and metabolic risk factors.
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Wealth Inequality. Poorer counties have shorter lifespans. I suspect if you drill into the details you'll find higher rates of smoking plus a lack of access to to medical care, especially heart disease treatment and pre-cancer screenings and treatment. I guy I work with had heart surgery recently. We make good money with good benefits so it was covered and he was able to work from home for about 90 days while he fully recovered. But if he was the night manager at a gas station he'd have just died. Period.
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Something doesn't seem right here. I live in Summit County, CO for 7 years and no one who lives in Summit County is actually from Summit County, or really even Colorado. Furthermore, even fewer are even year round residents. There's almost no one over the 65 there, the vast majority of the population are younger to early middle age ski bums. The same goes for Eagle County and to some degree Pitkin. Something about the ski bum population is skewing those results. (On a side note, a former Air Force general, Don Kutyna, who ran the US Space Command for a bit skied nearly every day and he was 70+ at the time. Over at Copper Mountain we had Frank Walters who was 80+ and skied hundreds of days a year.)
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Hence, a lot of younger people are dying away from hospitals, and older people, especially with money will cluster around geriatric medical facilities, which of course are not evenly distributed.
This will be more a map of facilities and cities and not of life expectancy at all.
I live adjacent to the Oglala Lakota Reservation. It's a massive ghetto. I'm not surprised in the least that the expected lifespan is so short -- in fact, I'm kinda surprised it's that long. The poverty here is worse than most people realize exists in America. The hardest part is that there's literally no industry for these people to use as a means to climb out of poverty. They receive enough allowance from the government to stay alive -- and that's it.
I'm not a native (heck, my dad wasn't even born in this country), but I feel deeply for our fellow men & women on the res. The USA forced them to live there, forced them into the ghetto -- and now they're too impoverished to ever leave. There's no work, no hope -- the res is the most depressing place imaginable. The lifespan information should be used as an indicator of how badly communities need help.
In rural America its not how long you live, its how much debt you are skipping out on by dying young. You want to know the real reason Donald Trump is so popular? Because he borrowed money like a reckless asshole and managed to stick that debt on other people. That may not be the official American wet dream but it's in the top five.
So if you live in a city with higher income and job opportunities you live longer. Live in a poor rural area and you deserve to die. Nice system
Ironic is these bozos who live in these regions are the most adamant on making sure they do not have healthcare so they can get healthcare in their mind as them having it is communism so give it to others who are rich and it will trickle back???!
I don't get the thought process
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I'm sure the new republican health care plan will provide more comprehensive coverage at much lower costs thus solving americas poor living in third world conditions. /s
For those who want a good visualization, here is the US map of the study results,
and here's the study, click on the "figures and tables" link in the overly complex mishmash of a web page for visualizations and caption explanations.
Simplistic discussions based on observing relationships between poverty, education, and life expectancy are not helpful in addressing these problems. Poverty and low education simply cannot explain low life expectancy because while they are correlated, they are not reliable predictors. Furthermore, government spending can't be used to alleviate poverty and low education in these communities because we tried that (e.g., the Federal Government is already spending massively on Native American students, with $15,391 per student, compared to $9,896 outside the reservations).
Do tell, what President Sanders would've done differently from El Presidente Chavez. I'm listening...
Do tell, what President Trump will do differently from Reichskanzler Hitler. I'm listening... See how stupid that sounded when you read it? That's how stupid your comment sounded to the rest of us.
Do you have statistics for longevity — and differences in longevity — among Europeans? I'm listening...
It's a about ten years in the UK:
http://www.acegeography.com/re...
Seems to be rather similar in Germany:
https://www.mpg.de/9324818/reg...
I'll let you google the rest... it's not particularly complicated just search on the topic: regional variations in life expectancy <name of country>
Racism card to come in 3...2...1
votoing to work in coal mines , maybe they would live longer.
I wonder if genetic diversity - or rather the lack of it - is part of the equation.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
A) It's not "progressives" that said their jobs weren't coming back, it's the industry leaders.
Obama telling people their jobs are not coming back, specifically to Carrier people in Indiana. He made a joke about what is Trump going to do, he doesn't have a magic wand. Trump used this new fangled device called a PHONE to help those people, something apparently beyond Obama's ability.
Second Obama video where he says he is going to kill off coal mining jobs. Since Trump took over about half the jobs Obama got rid of in that area have been brought back.
So YES, it is PROGRESSIVES saying the jobs are not coming back and that THEY are going to be responsible for it. Meanwhile Trump is using a PHONE CALL to get them back. Obama should be embarrassed, and so should you for making your comment.
"the push to keep the ACA around would have made it clear that "progressives" want everyone to live regardless of personal wealth"
That may have been how it was sold to the poor electorate, but not how it worked out in reality.
Every single person I know that bought an ACA plan complained about the deductibles. Sure, the monthly premiums were within reach, but $6000 to $10000 per year in deductibles ensured that the policy was never used.
Sure, some things were covered by the ACA, but if you talked about any other health issues during your "healthy visit" those became billable expenses that hit your annual deductible.
For those that could afford the premiums, the ACA became medical disaster insurance. Many could not even afford the premiums and opted to take their chances on the penalty at tax time.
The ACA was doomed in a couple of ways - it was a financial disaster for insurers, and it did not really help poor people get continual basic care - the stuff that prevents expensive diseases later on.
Those were blue states for 50 years, dumbass. It took them that long to realize that poor people voting for democrats stayed poor. 10 years ago, you could put a dead dog on the ballot with a (D) next to it and it would have won the election. And in return, the democ acts kept us poor so we'd keep voting democrat. Fuck that.
and India, which has one of the shortest
Submit to my fate or immigrate? Oh wait, the West and East (hello Australia) is not welcoming my fellow countrymen anymore. But then again, north Indians were hated in south India too. We are so used to it..
Trump voters live in 3rd world counties, we just have to wait until they die out.
Trumpcare will hasten that up quite a bit.
In other words, people with more money live longer than people with less money. Wealth is also correlated with responsibility, conscientiousness, education, and intelligence. Who knew that more educated, intelligent, and conscientious people would take care of themselves better than others? Color me shocked. Call us when these factors are corrected for before performing your linear regression.
Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down? We do, we do!
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps? Who keeps the Martians under wraps? We do, we do!
Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? We do, we do!
Who robs cavefish of their sight? Who rigs every Oscar night? We do, we do!
Do not be a chain smoker. There are better things to put in your mouth.
Or, if you're Donald Trump, Putin's cock (after all, he is Putin's Cockholster).
And if you're a Trump supporter, then you too can get in on the fun with one degree of separation, by swallowing Trump's cock (as many of his supporters are wont to do).
The ACA doesn't make anyone paid who can't "afford it" for certain values of "afford". There is a clause that doesn't mandate coverage if you have minimal income without any penalties. Had some friends choose NOT to pay for insurance and they didn't have any penalties. Had another friend with a heart condition also choose not to buy insurance. His rates were $10K/yr. He was earning well over $200K/yr and decided the penalties were cheaper.
The ACA screwed over lots of people, like my family. We don't work any more. Living off investments after being a well-paid IT consultant for 15 yrs. Without jobs, we have to buy our own healthcare. Effectively poverty level, but because we won't take government assistance, to have health coverage, we are hit with the highest ACA rates.
We have zero health conditions and don't take any medications.
Our hi-deductible insurance under ACA costs 3x more with a 50% higher deductible than our prior insurance. Went from a $5K/yr deductible to a $7800/yr deductible. It mandates coverages we won't ever use - drug addition, mental health, child coverages. We are under 50, childless. ACA bills are higher than any other bill be pay monthly. It costs more than food, car, and house payments individually. We are being screwed.
The republican plan screws over different people - and probably us still. Until we get an option for a single-payer similar to Canada, Japan, and northern Europe, someone will always think they are being screwed.
I'm a libertarian. Think the govt has no place in many things related to what they do. Social security bothers me. FICA bothers me and the ACA bothers me. We are adults and responsible for our own lives. If you want a nanny, join the military and they will take care of you. If you don't like that, move to a different country. Move to somewhere that is a nanny state. There are nice places all over the world with 60% taxation and "free health care." Enjoy. I've been to many of those places AND to places that barely have doctors. Lots of places you can move.
BTW, almost 50% of Americans aren't impacted by the ACA. They have health insurance through their employers, so none of this matters.
Okay, it's kind of obvious if you live in a place like a slum, with more disease, more violence and more temptation to use dangerous recreational (or medical drugs for recreational) drug, not to mention more junk food (through lack of education/knowledge + lack of availability of fresh produce), well, duh. Of course people on average will live less. Oh, let's not forget, lower availability of health care services due to lack of money/insurance or even lack nearby hospitals which is also a part of this. The real question is not why certain areas have lower life expectancy, but why we allow these condition to continue to exist. I'm sure many of can easily find the answer, although most of the answers are horribly cynical/pragmatic and don't speak well of us as a society.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
People unable to think clearly die sooner.
Seriously, if you think drugging, drinking and smoking are things you want to be doing, your brain is broken. There's some leeway in there for lacking life experience - teenagers and so on who just haven't seen enough consequences yet to figure out what self-destructive behavior is - but for anyone in their 20's or older, if you've not yet figured this out, you're probably poor, superstitious, and more likely to die sooner than the rest of us.
Don't get me wrong: I think you should be allowed to do all of this, and more along these lines. I just think you're stupid if you choose to.
Avatar was fiction, you know.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
The advent of learning systems – very smart, but not conscious – into manufacturing and service automation will (and is beginning to already) move the bar so far, so fast, that a paradigm shift in what "the working economy" actually is will occur within just a few years, leaving pretty much everyone – imported workers, native workers, educated workers, uneducated workers, skilled workers, unskilled workers – without paying jobs.
What "money" is will be changed by the government, along with who gets what, and why. They must change. Either that, or there will be a revolution and the government will fall, along with pretty much everything else.
Learning systems' application to production and service is not like previous technological / economic change. At all. These systems will enter every corner of the economy and underprice all expensive human jobs. The tip of the iceberg is already visible. The job/citizen connection will inevitably be sundered; the money/goods-services connection must change by then (or sooner) or we will see a very sudden disaster that no one wants.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I'd like to be under the sea
In an octopus's garden in the shade
He'd let us in, knows where we've been
In his octopus's garden in the shade
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If rural white voters would stop voting so incredibly stupidly, I'm pretty sure the arrogant urban leftists would settle right down WRT those stereotypes that concern you so.
Is this really a revelation to these people?
To American Idiots (about 50%:) Insurance works on pools of healthy people paying for sick people - the premiums are directly linked to the number and cost of care for the sick people. Younger people don't need much so they pay for the older people. Then wait for it... they become old and those young people pay for them. Right now we have a lot of OLD people and are just starting to have a boom of younger people starting to pay-- but everybody after baby boomers make less money too. Naturally this is going to raise costs -- not as much as drug companies, but it's a significant factor. Private or public insurance -- doesn't change the nature of insurance. (other than 30+% waste on private... way higher than government graft even in this corrupt system; I doubt Trump will corrupt medicare to even 15%.)
ACA LOWERED BANKRUPTCIES! (healthcare #1 cause, like forever.)
In my state, the local government has not purposely tried to screw up the ACA. I am not high income (part time) possible because of ACA exchanges, previously i was screwed getting individual healthcare. All that crap about negotiating yourself is a lie, you are not worth the time of day and there is no negotiating just a take it in the ass or leave it and gamble on being raped later. I know people too, ACA helped everybody.
Young people without insurance getting FREE expensive emergency coverage raises every paying person's rates. Poor as well. There is always some group stuck on the edge -- either they are full of shit or the politicians left a problem for future political points... like how they make stupid renewals on stuff like minimum wage-- which if it had been pegged to inflation like many wanted (still want) it wouldn't be a non stop problem. Or how a 2-year congress does a yearly budget that wastes so much time when it should be a 2 year budget... plus how the timing is often aligned with special interests.
The system is HORRIBLE but the ACA make it better than it would be. Sadly, the ACA is the best this idiot nation is capable of. Instead of fighting for real solutions we are distracted fighting over a lesser evil -- horribly evil but just less evil. Americans are idiots.
The headline implies an incorrect conclusion: that where a specific individual lives within the United States will have a great impact on how long such individual is likely to live. But that is not what this study examined. It looked at averages over entire populations.
First, the study considered life expectancy from birth. If you are reading this, you've probably survived infancy, so infant mortality is not a relevant metric to your personal lifespan forecast. Second, you are not the hypothetical average person. You have your own individual risk profile based on health history, genetics, diet and exercise, and access to care. Simply moving to a Native American reservation with high incidence of alcoholism will not necessarily make you an alcoholic. Likewise, an obese alcoholic won't necessarily get fit or sober just because they moved to the mountains of Colorado.
Both the French and Russian revolutions were by the middle class.
The poor will happily fight to death against another nation or religion. But they will never fight against their betters.
Middle class Americans are no worse off than middle class Europeans.