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Hackers Have Targeted Both the Trump Organization And Democrat Election Data (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Two recent news stories give new prominence to politically-motivated data breaches. Friday the Wall Street Journal reported that last year Guccifer 2.0 sent 2.5 gigabytes of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee election data to a Republican operative in Florida, including their critical voter turnout projections. At the same time ABC News is reporting that the FBI is investigating "an attempted overseas cyberattack against the Trump Organization," adding that such an attack would make his network a high priority for government monitoring.
"In the course of its investigation," they add, "the FBI could get access to the Trump Organization's computer network, meaning FBI agents could possibly find records connected to other investigations." A senior FBI official (now retired) concedes to ABC that "There could be stuff in there that they [the Trump organization] do not want to become part of a separate criminal investigation."
It seems like everyone's talking about the privacy of their communications. Tonight the Washington Post writes that Trump's son-in-law/senior advisor Jared Kushner "discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump's transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports." And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
"In the course of its investigation," they add, "the FBI could get access to the Trump Organization's computer network, meaning FBI agents could possibly find records connected to other investigations." A senior FBI official (now retired) concedes to ABC that "There could be stuff in there that they [the Trump organization] do not want to become part of a separate criminal investigation."
It seems like everyone's talking about the privacy of their communications. Tonight the Washington Post writes that Trump's son-in-law/senior advisor Jared Kushner "discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump's transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports." And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
So I was right that Donald Trump, Jared Kushners, and others are traitors who colluded with Russia's hack of our presidential campaign.
Will any of you dumbfucks apologize, or are you just going to keep pretending you don't notice the obvious treason taking place in front of your eyes?
I accept your apology, morons.
When the opposition is reduced to people that can only scream empty buzzwords, even someone like trump can win.
Russia is no friend to Trump and his administration. They only care about exploiting the Trump administration to achieve their goals. Governor Romney was right in 2012 when he said Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat to the United States. The left was wrong to laugh at him, but the right is even dumber to ignore Romney's warning now that evidence shows he was right.
The problem is that the right seems to have taken a favorable view of Russia now. Perhaps it's because the right wing "Christians" love that Putin has cracked down on homosexuality in Russia. I kid you not, I've heard Christians praise Putin for this. Russia was all too happy to look the other way as gays were rounded up and tortured in Chechnya. All too many Christians objected to Trump during the primaries and were all too happy to fall in line and vote for him once he got the nomination, all because the Republican party platform claims to be pro-life. Never mind, of course, all the other evils that Trump supports, and the fact that the Republicans will never ban abortion because it would take away the one reason people vote for them. If there is a God, a lot of Christians will be burning in hell for what they've supported in the name of Jesus.
Putin cannot be trusted. He is no friend to democracy and free society, nor will he ever be. Putin is an evil man, but the right wingers seem to have developed a love for him. They're too stupid to realize that, despite helping to get Trump elected, that love is not mutual and Putin is only interested in exploiting far right political leaders for his own benefit.
RACIST!
The Democrats werent "reduced" to that. They just willingly and knowingly did it, because they thought that they could.
"His name was James Damore."
You actually have to have been born, summoned from the Netherhells doesn't count.
Presidential candidates are commonly given security briefings and access to some classified information during the campaign process.
Unfortunately, as that information is classified, we don't generally get to know what kind of information they are given during such briefings until it gets leaked. Or there is some sort of investigation.
So, there are all sorts of reasons for many of the things we've been hearing about in the media for the past couple of months to be legitimate. This doesn't change the fact that a) Trump is a complete douche, and b) the media is filled with glorified editorialists who constantly seek to rewrite history to their own advantage/misunderstanding, which doesn't help anyone.
I've read an interesting opinion piece by a Russian opponent: http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/03/06/trump-russia-conspiracy-trap/.
Basically, the messages are: first, yes, Russia has meddled in, and there are links between them and Trump. But it's nothing new, Russia's always tried to destabilize Western democracies and undermine their credibility, including by supporting political crackpots there. This time the crackpots won the election.
Second, the media frenzy about this is being played up because it's seemingly the only scandal that riles people enough that the Republican majority in Congress might have to take notice, instead of looking the other way as they did with all the other documented lies. So Trump opponents are playing this specific card.
But, third, there's probably nothing concrete enough there to warrant a successful impeachment. And this is beginning to border on speculation and conspiracy-theory thinking, in other words using some of Trump's foul tactics against him in the unlikely hope of getting rid of him. Bad precedent.
So, fourth, not only it won't work, it's drowning out more urgent and serious issues: dismantling healthcare, crippling budget cuts everywhere but in the military, hurting government agencies. If more attention was focused on them instead, sure, it would be even less likely to cause Trump's demise, but it would mitigate the damage, as it did for the Muslim travel ban.
HRC would have won the election if she weren't HRC. Truth.
What is the point of releasing her personal tax returns when her foundation has all of the sketchy stuff?
The idea that there is this secret stash of documents that is finally going to reveal Trump's secret identity as Dr. Evil and is going to doom his presidency is wishful thinking. Trump's computers and people around Trump were under surveillance for months under the Obama administration, and Trump has many people in his administration, among Republicans, and in his organization who hate him; if there had been anything substantive, it would have come out by now, either in leaks or in official investigations.
What's with all the Russophobia?
Do the Russians blow up little girls at concerts? Or perhaps they call for the murder of gays/lesbians?
Do they advocate stoning women who don't wear tents in public? Did their Prophet call for enslavement, rape, and murder of the Christians/Jews?
I get it, you probably have the Russians precisely because they fight the radical Islamic terrorists. How fucking sick.
The Democrats werent "reduced" to that. They just willingly and knowingly did it, because they thought that they could.
He's describing the other Republicans.
When it was so bad that even tollbooth guy got into the primaries at all then it's pretty fucked up.
Who would have voted Christie for President? Some of the others were almost as bad.
Because they put forward a politically unappealing candidate with a giant walk-in closet full of skeletons and in America, the value of your vote is proportional to the amount of unoccupied land around you. Now let's get back to discussing one of the many issues that could lead to Trump's (eventually almost certain) impeachment.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Pro-American? So, he goes to Saudi Arabia and bends over for them. This is the same Saudi Arabia which funds the most virulent forms of militant Islam aimed at taking down the West. Then that twat goes to Europe and offends NATO claiming that the treaty saying the U.S. would defend NATO countries didn't mean what it says it means.
Pro-American means taking from the poor and giving to the rich through yet more tax giveaways. It means fucking the U.S. raw environmentally. It means ceding the Pacific basin to China. It means cutting the State Dept. so that it cannot wield U.S. soft power. It means giving the Christian nutjobs their very own political political party. It means taking the concept of America to the rest of the world and dragging it into the mud where that asshole feels comfortable.
Some pro-American leader.
No, they send girls who perform at concerts to prison in Siberia instead.
Yes, especially in the vassal state of Chechnya.
It's clearly either dishonest or insane to claim that baby Bush, Obama, Clinton, Bush and Reagan were not pro-American leaders.
It may play well to the peanut gallery of fellow travellers but it just looks utterly nuts to everyone else - especially if you compare them to Trump who has spent his entire life trying to screw people over and is the most selfish President the USA has had. He's pro-Trump, he's not on anyone else's side.
What's with all the Russophobia?
Common sense?
Do the Russians blow up little girls at concerts?
I certainly don't doubt that Putin would do so. The most you can say is that he won't see it as to his advantage.
Or perhaps they call for the murder of gays/lesbians?
They actually murder them
Do they advocate stoning women who don't wear tents in public?
No, they advocate throwing their enemies in the gulag.
And no, they aren't exactly good on attire, no.
Did their Prophet call for enslavement, rape, and murder of the Christians/Jews?
Russians aren't big on religious tolerance either, no.
I get it, you probably have the Russians precisely because they fight the radical Islamic terrorists. How fucking sick.
Oh so, they fight the Radical Islamic terrorists, so nothing they do can be wrong, is that it?
Maybe it's just like WW2, when Stalin and Hitler were BOTH MURDEROUS TYRANNICAL DESPOTS.
And since the Islamic terrorists don't have a tenth of Hitler's war machine, I see no reason to buddy up to Putin.
I will not give him a favorable reference in the House of Commons, the House of Representatives, or in the House of Saud.
It's certainly the spin they're putting on it, *but* this Russian provided secure channel was not disclosed to Congress, was not within the Whitehouse record keeping system, and thus outside of Congretional oversight.
You don't get Presidents working with foreign powers to bypass their own checks and balances, such a thing is NOT routine. It's NOT normal.
"In addition to their discussion about setting up the communications channel, Kushner, Flynn and Kislyak also talked about arranging a meeting between a representative of Trump and a “Russian contact” in a third country whose name was not identified, according to the anonymous letter. "
Kislyak is considered a Russian spy. Is it normal and routine to set up meetings with Russian spies outside of the USA? No? Yes?
" but it is related to the Syrian war,"
That's your spin, there's no mention of Syria in the WP article, and no reason why Trump's transition teams Syria discussions would be special and outside of Senate and Congress oversight.
Jared likely received a smartphone or similar device provided by the Russians with encryption software on it. This is not normal. It's not normal for team Trump to want to bypass the NSA, or to trust Putin more than the NSA. Well there is one reason why they'd want a more secure line.
When the opposition is reduced to people that can only scream empty buzzwords, even someone like trump can win.
Bigly.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
They think this because the Democrats have such a list, and would have used such a list if it benefited them. Unfortunately for them, Trump was a person that didnt have such a list, so we are left with the only fact: The Democrats have such a list and are scumbag enough to use it.
Jezzuz Christ, Boris, You need to write your bullshit before the second bottle of vodka. Your bullshit only works if it makes sense on some level.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
What colours is the sky on your planet?
Trump and his entourage is going to get cut to pieces. He is dead meat.
When we are done with Trump Inc, we're coming after the Putin regime.
I'd stop digging that hole if I were you.
Everyone -- note that this article is being spammed hard by "Anonymous Cowards" sprouting pro-Putin and pro-Trump talking points.
Adjust your skepticism accordingly. They're rattled -- there's been a strong uptick in Putinbot activity in the last few days, which makes me wonder if pro-Western forces are getting closer to the truth on Kremlingate.
In the absence of Slashdot waking up to themselves and getting rid of "Anonymous Coward", you'll have to wade through a lot of Putinbot spam in the meantime.
He's describing the other Republicans.
I dont know who he thinks that he is describing, and now I know who you think that he is describing.
The fact remains that he is describing the DNC, not the RNC.
"His name was James Damore."
Sorry you feel that screaming into the Internet is going to fix anything. The post is meant to highlight the pointlessness of such actions. At the same time, I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment, just your execution.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
Have you considered that maybe US intel was already incompetent? They ban pot smokers and believe in polygraph voodoo, to the exclusion of those that don't at least pretend that it has some credibility. But, they keep massive amounts of data, more than they can reasonably analyze, and because of all that data, they have to lower their hiring standards and increase their number of employees, meaning that more and more moles are going to have access to the mother lode.
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>> "And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
Yeah keep telling yourself that Hillary. I mean your own obvious corruption had absolutely nothing to do with it right?
Unprecedented straws are the ones that matter more than the usual ones. So now it's just more things to have to deal with... except Comey broke the law, that "straw" wasn't supposed to be possible and the law was created to prevent it. The Russian stuff is a new issue that needs to be protected against but will never be stopped... hopefully it makes people finally realize computer voting machines are asinine.
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It wasn't a hit. Get over it. DC is a dangerous goddamned place. The Rich story is fabrication and even Fox has walked away from it.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Actually som Dems the hate the idea of Trump being lined early because the longer he's there the worse the GOP looks.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Maybe a little history lesson would be helpful for the simpletons like you. Irrespective of party, every administration and pretty much every country has back-channel communications with their enemies. About every decade or so WWIII is temporarily averted by them. Judge them by how they are used, not their existence. Two that come to mind are Carter during the Iran situation and the Kennedys during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I am sure the history buffs here can name many more instances, so I leave it to Slashdot.
So I was right that Donald Trump, Jared Kushners, and others are traitors who colluded with Russia's hack of our presidential campaign.
Nope. The story had nothing to do with that, and even top level Democrats admit Trump had nothing to do with Russia hacking the DNC.
Important to remember that the "hack" of the campaign was simply to reveal emails that Democrats, and especially Hillary, did not want the public to see. That's not a hack - that's a leak. Just like the ones Trump is going through right now. If you thought the leaks exposing Hillary were so bad, where are your complaints about leaks targeting Trump? They are equivalent. Yet I'm sure you have cheered them on even as they unravel the fabric of U.S. intelligence services.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Is killing political rivals with Polonium to "send a message" not excessive enough for you?
Also Putin rode to power on a wave of anti-US sentiment and he's still stirring that pot. You may not consider him your enemy but he certainly considers you one, or at least he tells his press such things.
And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
What, exactly, does her OPINION prove?
Ken
That's the most fitting part of this entire news post.
2 different law enforcement officials from 2 different parties (Dem & GOP) plus the special prosecutor have publicly stated the Ruskies HAVE effected the election.
sorry, but you need to stop drinking the FauxNoise cool aid.