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Researchers Found Perfect Contraceptives In Traditional Chinese Medicine (inverse.com)
hackingbear writes:
Researchers at U.C. Berkeley found a birth control that was hormone-free, 100 percent natural, resulted in no side effects, didn't harm either eggs nor sperm, could be used in the long-term or short-term, and -- perhaps the best part of all -- could be used either before or after conception, from ancient Chinese folk medicine... "Because these two plant compounds block fertilization at very, very low concentrations -- about 10 times lower than levels of levonorgestrel in Plan B -- they could be a new generation of emergency contraceptive we nicknamed 'molecular condoms,'" team leader Polina Lishko.
I thought wearing socks with sandals was the ultimate hormone-free contraceptive.
I thought this was news for nerds, not news for people who can't get laid.
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I have a feeling this news will not affect anyone on this site
And we should trust them for birth control advice?
Used after conception for emergency contraception but works by preventing the sperm and egg meeting, that is contradictory.
Ancient Chinese secret indeed.
Perfect Contraceptive
Reading /. or Reddit? Living in your parents' basement?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I read somewhere that ancient Egyptian women used crocodile dung as a contraceptive sponge.
(Personal Open Terminal). in this episode psychopath mutant crown royal dna is composted in the lhc. 'we're going to grow something here' was the official statement? viewers are feeling ill frequently... tbc
Well, the actual paper was published very recently in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, which is reputable. They don't seem to be selling anything.
http://www.pnas.org/content/ea...
Except editordavid. He's pretty chill..
But there are two plant compounds that can prevent sperm from doing this, no matter how valiantly they may try — lupeol, found in mango and dandelion root, and pristimerin, from a plant called the “thunder god vine,”
"Thunder God Vine" prevents pregnancy, but sounds like a great name for your penis.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
from 'ancient Chinese folk medicine' .000.000.000 people in China. Forced 2 kids-per-family politics.
appearently the Chinese did not use it?
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it is now illegal to grow mango and dandelions as well as a plant called the “thunder god vine." Raids on houses with dandelion infestations are expected to commence forthwith; with inhabitants potentially facing "growing dandelions with intent to distribute" for larger infestations. Right to Life organizations hail the new laws as a great step in protecting future unborn Republicans.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
I read the article. This works by preventing fertilisation of the egg. "Conception", if it is defined separately from fertilisation (often they are used as synonyms), is the implantation of a fertilised egg into the womb.
So this can't be used as an emergency contraceptive as weirdly claimed, and the excerpt of the journal that is reported in the article didn't claim it can. Seems the article author just made it up, to get more clicks.
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gives the hostage time to develop a pounding headache... never ends thanks again moms
What stage of grief is 'idiotic snark'?
Get on with it.
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The article claims it can be used as contraception "after conception," which is an oxymoron for a start. There's detail in there about how it stops sperm swimming, but nothing about the mechanism behind it stopping fertilized eggs from implanting, which is (obliquely) claimed.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Ancient Chinese secrets also help with fertility, wealth, penis size, and a whole bunch of other holistic horseshit.
Birth control pills are often taken not because a woman wants to prevent an unplanned pregnancy but because such hormones help deal with acne.
process becomes abortion... better to poison us as fetuses than to treat us poorly after we're born? wtf? no heart no spirit no life,,,
Dude you haven't used email since 1998 ? You must have missed all those enlargement aides.
Fuck you, poster
The words China and ethics just don't go together.
Great now we can say bye bye to the tiger, rhino and elephant because chinese traditional medicine has been "proven effective" by a study.
Every god damn quack shop in china will have signs saying "study shows traditional medicine effective" and, because nobody outside of the field reads scientific papers, people will take it as fact and, well, say goodbye to some of the most beautiful, strange and amazing creatures on the planet because they are going to get fucking annihilated.
Interesting how every free-to-use platform gets swarmed with stuff making it not viable. Interesting how sites that allow free speech get DDOSed, resulting in all connections having to pass through a central agency like cloudflare. Interesting how every decentralized information platform gets demonized as a crime hub and made as close to illegal as is practical in each jurisdiction.
I am sure it is all a coincidence.
Someone swoop in there and patent it out from under the locals!
Don't just stand there, get that other dog!
This is another PR statement that inflates the actual findings so much that they become unrecognizable. For those interested in the details, the original article is here (it is paywalled). The TL;DR version of the original article is as follows:
These were the finding of the papers. Now look at the claims in the PR statement:
...an AD&D rulesbook.
Ah, somebody hates that this is the sort of joke we CAN make about Trump's band of hoodlums, especially Jefferson "Ban the Demon Weed!" Sessions III.
Admittedly, it would have been funnier if read in a Southern accent by Martin Sheen, but there's only so much we can do.
PNAS article says NOTHING about efficacy or safety of these triterpenoids as oral contraceptives. .....
They observed effects on cells in vitro
Slashdot... not so sciency... .....triterpenoids can be toxic... pennyroyal oil has been linked to deaths when used as abortifacient.. (it is effective, but correct dose is vital)
It is not a chemical made from some pharmacy R&D department so the FDA will label it as not proper for use.
John
I'd have settled for Jeff Foxworthy in a pinch, but Martin Sheen would be better.
So if I eat mangoes or dandelion root I will not get pregnant? Also, since these plants inhibit the whipping tale of the sperm does this mean that it is the man or the woman that should ingest such plants?
Based on the number of Chinese people, I don't think these work. And is there really is such a thing as perfect?
Crocs
So when I read "about 10 times lower than levels of levonorgestrel in Plan B"
This comes off as crap designed to flog 'information' to the the ignorant public. But (and someone please correct me) this statement is meaningless. Any medication has an effective dosage, and method of function. Levonorgestrel and the chemicals mentioned in this article don't function in a similar manner. To compare the concentrations is meaningless, and leads people to believe in some false metric between them.
Sort of like how anonymous cowards, and apt name, destroyed /. long ago.
I've been using email this whole time, and my dick is like 4 feet long now.
Did your little nerd sensors get hurt can haz
How many times have we heard this one? Oh, nevermind.
Just because someone sent you a ruler where he wrote "feet" on a piece of tape and tacked it to the place that read "centimeters" doesn't make it so.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Marijuana.
For those whose institution doesn't pay for PNAS, you could always try sci-hub.cc.
We only need look at the historical, empirical evidence of China's well-managed - nay, optimized - population to conclude just how perfect such traditional contraceptives are.
Are all natural and hormone free. There are so many deadly naturally occurring substances that "all natural" should be a warning label.
In the Materials and Methods part of the PNAS article (it didn't seem paywalled to me, but I use Umatrix so the paywall script may not have loaded) they make it clear that this test was all done by people performing tests on sperm samples obtained by masturbation and subsequently purified with the swim-up technique. They showed that adding the chemicals to the purified sperm prevented the calcium channel of the sperm from being activated by progesterone. They didn't show that there's some pill one could safely take that would effectively deliver enough of these chemicals to sperm to act as a contraceptive under circumstances not involved with artificial insemination. This may be the first step on the way to a contraceptive, but unless ejaculating in advance and then mixing chemicals with your sperm can be part of your normal contraception routine, this is not actually a contraceptive.
This explains how they controlled their population's gro- WAIT
If this works, how do you explain China's somewhat significant population problems?
I'd have settled for Jeff Foxworthy in a pinch, but Martin Sheen would be better.
I'd go with Ron White; he'd have the right combo of wit and snark to really make it work.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
What stage of grief is 'idiotic snark'?
Get on with it.
Probably the one Trump voters will start with when they realize the jobs aren't coming back, their benefits are being cut and they'll lose their health insurance all; but at least they've done their part to "Make America Great Again." One of my favorite lines was the Congressman from Alabama that argued against the ACA by asking why should healthy people pay for people who make poor lifestyle choices; while representing a state that is leading or near the top in obesity, lack of exercise and smoking. He needs to tell his constituents that they'll lose benefits and pay more because they made lifestyle choices that are bad.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.