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The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier (9to5mac.com)
Robert Hwang, CEO of a large iPhone manufacturing company in India, has let slip that the upcoming iPhone will have wireless charging. Hwang told reporters after the company's shareholder's meeting: "Assembly process for the previous generations of [iPhones] have not changed much, though new features like waterproof and wireless charging now require some different testing, and waterproof function will alter the assembly process a bit." 9to5Mac reports: Just this week, new glass panels purporting to be from the upcoming iPhones have given us another glimpse into the devices' designs. Showing off an iPhone 7s, 7s Plus, and iPhone 8, the images indicated that the glass back panels would open the door for wireless charging across all the devices. According to Hwang, Wistron's India facility is currently making "a small number" of handsets for Apple. He states the growth in manufacturing will hinge on relations between Apple and the Indian government.
wireless charging! Welcome to 2013! your improving apple, only a few years behind everyone else now.
The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier
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Apple announces that it maybe will do it on the next version, unless they change their mind at the last minute.
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I heard about this pipe dream technology awhile ago. Duos to Apple for finally perfecting and bringing some Jetsons tech to the masses!
Those shitty android phones could learn a thing from Apple. My iPhone is due for a refresh soon. Can't wait to preorder my iPhone!
I'm betting that it is nothing but a pad that you lay your phone on instead of having to plug it in... Something that My Samsung Note 4 can already do if you have the right third party equipment. Trust me, this will only make chargers a whole lot more expensive.
Where I welcome the water proof part, I wonder what this means to how you sync your phone now? Are they removing the lighting connector or just adding the necessary elements to capture power from a magnetic field....
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Shake the phone really quick next to a fridge magnet == free wireless charging from the magnetic field!
But a special adapter will be required to plug the charger in the wall (maybe they will ship European versions to USA and North American versions to Europe)... thanks Apple!!!!!
And Google just dropped wireless charging, after promoting it heavily since, what, Nexus 4?
Does wireless charging offer any advantage at all over wired charging, besides looking cool?
When it comes to phones I am only on my 2nd smartphone as I hang on to them a long long time, both have had wireless charging, and I have been using it for years, but I was scared
why? you may ask, well obviously it has not been invented yet, as apple devices do not have this privilege. I was scared that any moment my house would be raided by government agents thinking I was engaged in industrial espionage and a time traveler. Now I have no fear of that as its now been invented, and I can live a normal life without a dark secret hidden just below the fabric of my shirt pocket.
Now I wonder if I can still get new head's for my oral-b electric toothbrush from 1990 that also had wireless charging as well ...
Will it be their new-fangled standard that comes in some cornerless and edgeless device or will it be Qi?
it would be great if LG, Samsung, ATT, HUAWAI, SONY, and Apple got together on having a quantum power surface on the rear of every HANDHELD COMPUTER they manufacture or design so someone asking me to borrow my charger just press rear consoles together to speedleach 10% or whatever when they are battery-critical.
that and a Thermo-electric pad to convert heat back to power more efficientlythan a solar panel.
Want one "new and innovative" feature that's 10 years old and incompatible with any useful free standards, buy our new phone in 6 months...
But we're gonna get that...
No - it sounds like the next iPhone will be Apple's fantasy fulfilled since it could have no ports at all! I expect they will work on removing the screen next.
you're blocking my wireless charging!
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.
I cannot wait for parasitic devices and ideas begin to feed off each other and off us, locked in a desperate struggle where tactics of escalation and power status notifications ---- not useful work --- becomes their primary function. Health monitors that damage health to charge and increase market share. Wearable devices that charge from human motion deliver shocks to cause motion, leaving a trail of sugar-depleted corpses. Wireless charged devices send "kill shots" to other devices to harness their chargers. WiFi parasites trigger encrypted porn downloads to maximize state-changes and harvest more energy. AT&T sends another circular trying to get us to switch to DirectTV. AT&T installs public megawatt Wifi outside your home to explode competitor's routers. Implantable devices that gather energy from tissue and decrease the nutrition of breast milk. speedtest.net consumes all traffic. Humans become minor players in symbiosis to ensure that Lithium-ion batteries reproduce. Cloud architecture virtualizes to the point of singularity when not a bit of actual hardware can be found. Interesting times.
Also see: The Time Rift of 2100: How We lost the Future --- and Gained the Past.
(rejected by WIRED Magazine!)
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Leak different.
Edison's light bulbs were nowhere near 20% efficient. We only just recently figured out encasing the filament with an IR-reflective/visible-transparent glass can (over a short period of time) bring the efficiency close to that of LED at true blackbody output.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Robert Hwang, CEO of a large former iPhone manufacturing company in India, has let slip ...
Poor guess. It's closer to 60 to 70% efficiency into the battery for Qi.
Not to mention that smartphone energy efficiency has been improving and their use is offsetting a lot of PC/laptop use that consumes an order of magnitude or two more energy.
Will you need iChargePad with iSpecialCharger to connect it to iSocekt (aka 110V outlet)?
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Wireless charging is simply a marketing ploy, I mean wireless internet is a great thing, so now with wireless charging, I'll just walk around the house and my phone will always be charged, amiright?
When in truth, its just that one side of a transformer is inside the dock or pad, and the other side is inside the telephone. Which makes for a piss-poor transformer at best, and loses efficiency the further one coil gets from the other, and takes up valuable space that might be better used for say - a bigger battery? Longer battery life?And it makes for a very specific place that the phone has to be to be charged.
Its ancient technology, and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Apple is doing their customers a huge disservice. The decision to move to wireless charging places aesthetics before utility in an effort to create a device without ports, connectors or holes in the chassis in what can only be described as masturbatory design.
Nearly all of Apples competitors - Namely high end Android devices like the Google Pixel, Samsung Galaxy S8 and coming Note 8, LG, Motorola, Sony, HTC, etc - Are ALL using 15,18+ watt turbochargers that can recharge your device incredibly fast over cheap commodity Micro USB or USB-C industry standard cables.
Apple's wireless charging is going to put their customers in a trickle charge hell of only being able to charge their phone on the one charging pad Apple will include with it, or they'll be forced to purchase additional wireless charging pads for $$$$$$$ from Apple for their car(s), their desk at work, and other spots in the house.
There's a reason all the top Android handset designers dumped wireless charging - It's a gimmick. It's far too low power, EXTREMELY SLOW and requires the special mat plugged to a power source everywhere you wish to use it.
But hey, the real story here is that this lets Apple create yet another SKU to sell at the Apple Store at an astronomical margin, and they'll license it to 3rd parties for $$$$$ per charging mat the same way they license the Lightning connector.
This adds absolutely no convenience to anyones' life and should only make Apple shareholders happy. Pretty like like the removal of the headphone jack.
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The micro-usb port stopped working on my Nexus 7 (2013). The battery was already completely drained, of course, and it seemed like the tablet and all the files that were on it were lost. Then I found out it supports wireless charging, spent $10 on a pod and the tablet is still going to this day.
Sure, it's slow and inefficient and you have to place the tablet just right (configured it to go 'ding' when it starts charging, that helps). I wouldn't pick it as the primary means of charging a new device, but I certainly got my money's worth out of that $10 pod.
It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Happy to see Apple has finally invented this technology. Everyone else should have it, too, in a couple of years.
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It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
Indeed they do add up quickly. The energy transfer will get so low as to be useless in short order.
The closest I can get to the concept of a useable wireless charger is similar to a physical dock, where you drop the phone into it, with little slots that align the two parts of the transformer. But then, that would be kinda like the docks that Police and Hams plug their handheld devices into. I have several. And they work quickly and flawlessly. The difference is that they have actual contacts. And most are waterproof.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Palm Pre had this in 2012. Innovation, or Apple licensing HP technology?
Stop calling it wireless charging. there are wires. It's plugless charging.
Samsung and Android have had wireless charging since the S5, in fact my S5 is on my wireless charger now. Apple seems to add everything Samsung has but years later. Now on my work S7 and my friends S8 Samsung and Android have started blocking scam calls and letting you know what kind of call is coming in, no more scams, fishing, or calls to sell you something, my work phone is so Amazing, I think I will be upgrading my S5. I just had an iPhone friend begging Apple for that very feature. He just got rid of his iPhone for a S8 because it has all the features. Everyone I know is switching from iPhone to Android now-a-days. It is becoming extremely hard to find someone with an iPhone. Apple better catch up soon or else. Wireless charging now, wow 3 years late to the game Apple.
1) Make up numbers about how efficient wireless charging is - claim it's going to cause mass inefficiency for a product that uses 1 kWh per year.
2) Blame SJWs
Really, the biggest waste with mobile phones is people replacing them if they don't need to.
It's turtles all the way down.
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.
Transformers are typically above 90% efficient; so why would wireless charging be so abysmally Inefficient?
It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
Yes. Inverse-square law.
That not true for wireless phone charging:
1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.
2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.
oooooh it's so hward for my pafetic wittle bwain to plug in charga to my iphone LATTE LATTE LATTE
Get a life, dipshits.
... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.
Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.
Oooh, whats next?
Some kind of magic connector, that when you plug it in to a computer allows you to drag and drop files directly into the device?
Some kind of futuristic transparent material, like regular window-glass but that doesn't break immediately if you drop it?
Like some kind of magic diamond goblet?
And the whole phone is covered by it, instead of regular window-glass?
knowing apple, they will have their own wirelesscharging system, so they can make extra money from selling the chargers. I do hope they will support Qi wireless charging, as most devices which have wireless charging support that standard. otherwise, just big finger to Apple, and hoping that the EU will call on them for not using a unified standard.
Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.
Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
That not true for wireless phone charging:
1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.
2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.
I'm not sure what the definition of "near" is. But I am pretty sure that, anytime there isn't a "direct" (wired) connection, inverse-square applies.
Prove me wrong. Show me a cite.
Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.
We're talking "ideal systems" here. Misalignments need not apply.
And I'm not sure if the core material has much effect, depending on the frequencies involved. And I believe that wireless chargers generally operate in the high kiloHertz up to low GigaHertz regions. I'm not sure iron-core transformers work very well at those frequencies.
Proving you wrong has become unnecessary here. Its pretty much a given that you will make up any lie to defend apple.
Yet another feature from the Palm's WebOS. Palm Pre was deemed an iPhone killer. A shame it's taking this long to demonstrate it. Still have a Pre3 and Touchpad and they never get old!
I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.
takes up valuable space that might be better used for say - a bigger battery? Longer battery life?
The wireless charging coil in a phone is etch on a flexible substrate, and is pretty much paper-thin. You will give up far more battery capacity for the case on a replaceable battery that everyone seems to want, than you will for that coil.
And it makes for a very specific place that the phone has to be to be charged.
That would be true if your phone doesn't have a wired charging port, which would be approximately none of the phones on the market today. The thing you seem to be ignoring is that even if you're a fan of wireless charging, you can still do wired charging when the need arises. When I'm at my desk at work or at home, I charge wirelessly. When I'm in my car, I charge with a wire and a car charger. When I'm out and about, I charge with a wire and a portable battery pack. See how that works?
... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.
Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.
I don't need nor want a wireless charger. Some of my most important uses of my iPhone are for driving guidance. Long days, brightness up full, volume up full, the phone sitting in a cradle, plugged in to it's charger (my Jeep has an inverter in it). How am I going to do that with a wireless charger? Aside from a ridiculous looking kludge.
I don't recall ever saying it doesn't work. I have said often it is a silly solution that is inefficient, and steals valuable interior phone space, and you can't charge while you talk.
But hey - If plugging in a charger is something that inconveniences you so badly, then use wireless technology, and you will be happy. It certainly doesn't work for my use, and the inconvenience of plugging in a charger is about the same as the inconvenience of breathing. I do it without even thinking about it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.
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Are you by any chance that person on the First World Problems meme?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Robert Hwang, CEO of a large iPhone manufacturing company in India
since when is anything made in india?
#FakeNews
...yah, maybe it will have wireless charging. But if it doesn't have a built in normal audio jack, it will also not hav me as a customer....
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That's cool, I need abandon my iphone 7