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The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier (9to5mac.com)
Robert Hwang, CEO of a large iPhone manufacturing company in India, has let slip that the upcoming iPhone will have wireless charging. Hwang told reporters after the company's shareholder's meeting: "Assembly process for the previous generations of [iPhones] have not changed much, though new features like waterproof and wireless charging now require some different testing, and waterproof function will alter the assembly process a bit." 9to5Mac reports: Just this week, new glass panels purporting to be from the upcoming iPhones have given us another glimpse into the devices' designs. Showing off an iPhone 7s, 7s Plus, and iPhone 8, the images indicated that the glass back panels would open the door for wireless charging across all the devices. According to Hwang, Wistron's India facility is currently making "a small number" of handsets for Apple. He states the growth in manufacturing will hinge on relations between Apple and the Indian government.
wireless charging! Welcome to 2013! your improving apple, only a few years behind everyone else now.
The Next iPhone Will Have Wireless Charging, Says Apple Supplier
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I'm betting that it is nothing but a pad that you lay your phone on instead of having to plug it in... Something that My Samsung Note 4 can already do if you have the right third party equipment. Trust me, this will only make chargers a whole lot more expensive.
Where I welcome the water proof part, I wonder what this means to how you sync your phone now? Are they removing the lighting connector or just adding the necessary elements to capture power from a magnetic field....
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Shake the phone really quick next to a fridge magnet == free wireless charging from the magnetic field!
But we're gonna get that...
No - it sounds like the next iPhone will be Apple's fantasy fulfilled since it could have no ports at all! I expect they will work on removing the screen next.
you're blocking my wireless charging!
Basically my theory holds.
If you want to know what will be in the new Iphone in 18-24 months, look at what Android has now, the caveat is that only some of what Android has will be permitted.
Pretty sure my old Nexus 4 had wireless charging and that was released in late 2012.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.
I cannot wait for parasitic devices and ideas begin to feed off each other and off us, locked in a desperate struggle where tactics of escalation and power status notifications ---- not useful work --- becomes their primary function. Health monitors that damage health to charge and increase market share. Wearable devices that charge from human motion deliver shocks to cause motion, leaving a trail of sugar-depleted corpses. Wireless charged devices send "kill shots" to other devices to harness their chargers. WiFi parasites trigger encrypted porn downloads to maximize state-changes and harvest more energy. AT&T sends another circular trying to get us to switch to DirectTV. AT&T installs public megawatt Wifi outside your home to explode competitor's routers. Implantable devices that gather energy from tissue and decrease the nutrition of breast milk. speedtest.net consumes all traffic. Humans become minor players in symbiosis to ensure that Lithium-ion batteries reproduce. Cloud architecture virtualizes to the point of singularity when not a bit of actual hardware can be found. Interesting times.
Also see: The Time Rift of 2100: How We lost the Future --- and Gained the Past.
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Leak different.
Edison's light bulbs were nowhere near 20% efficient. We only just recently figured out encasing the filament with an IR-reflective/visible-transparent glass can (over a short period of time) bring the efficiency close to that of LED at true blackbody output.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Well, the main one, and most obvious, is lack of wires.
I have my phone on a stand next to my bed. It's very, very convenient to be able to roll over and grab it in the morning, or if I get a call late at night, and not rip the cord out of the socket.
Note - I did have contact charging (like pogo-plug) on my last phone (Sony) and that was OK too but more sensitive to alignment.
Because Android phones have that feature and Apple has forgotten how to innovate.
You are not a technical person in the least, gauging from that statement.
Wireless charging as an innovation was around a long time ago. It never caught on because it is terribly inefficient, and you have to have the charging device closely coupled to the dock or pad.
It's like 3D films, Everyone cums in their pants about it every 30 years or so. Then it fades away.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Poor guess. It's closer to 60 to 70% efficiency into the battery for Qi.
Not to mention that smartphone energy efficiency has been improving and their use is offsetting a lot of PC/laptop use that consumes an order of magnitude or two more energy.
Will you need iChargePad with iSpecialCharger to connect it to iSocekt (aka 110V outlet)?
Not having to worry about phone/cord destruction. I had an htc evo something something (the one with the kickstand) for a long while and it was great. Until the dog ran over to my nightstand and then dragged my phone off with him having it land directly on the usb port, killing the port. Switching to built-in wireless charging (like on my nexus 5) means you can just throw your phone down and your done and not have to worry about destroying a usb port, and if it somehow gets busted you can still use your phone for as long as you have a wireless charging pad
That being said I did end up upgrading to a 5x, and the one thing I wish they would have kept was the built in wirelesss charging, so useful
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Wireless charging is simply a marketing ploy, I mean wireless internet is a great thing, so now with wireless charging, I'll just walk around the house and my phone will always be charged, amiright?
When in truth, its just that one side of a transformer is inside the dock or pad, and the other side is inside the telephone. Which makes for a piss-poor transformer at best, and loses efficiency the further one coil gets from the other, and takes up valuable space that might be better used for say - a bigger battery? Longer battery life?And it makes for a very specific place that the phone has to be to be charged.
Its ancient technology, and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I don't think that's how it would work. Seriously, have you seen people's obsession with their phones? Nobody is going to share power, that'd be like asking a fat person for their last bite of cake. You're asking them to share their crack.
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The micro-usb port stopped working on my Nexus 7 (2013). The battery was already completely drained, of course, and it seemed like the tablet and all the files that were on it were lost. Then I found out it supports wireless charging, spent $10 on a pod and the tablet is still going to this day.
Sure, it's slow and inefficient and you have to place the tablet just right (configured it to go 'ding' when it starts charging, that helps). I wouldn't pick it as the primary means of charging a new device, but I certainly got my money's worth out of that $10 pod.
It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
It will still have a lightning port and it will use standard (Qi) charging. Don't waste your words.
It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
Indeed they do add up quickly. The energy transfer will get so low as to be useless in short order.
The closest I can get to the concept of a useable wireless charger is similar to a physical dock, where you drop the phone into it, with little slots that align the two parts of the transformer. But then, that would be kinda like the docks that Police and Hams plug their handheld devices into. I have several. And they work quickly and flawlessly. The difference is that they have actual contacts. And most are waterproof.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Palm Pre had this in 2012. Innovation, or Apple licensing HP technology?
Stop calling it wireless charging. there are wires. It's plugless charging.
Does wireless charging offer any advantage at all over wired charging, besides looking cool?
If they eliminate all other ports, then the phone strength & integrity skyrockets. No more ports that might leak, or stress points where the casing could crack. Form factor becomes more flexible too. Still a few more to remove, plus they will need to build the SIM in and have that programmable.
1) Make up numbers about how efficient wireless charging is - claim it's going to cause mass inefficiency for a product that uses 1 kWh per year.
2) Blame SJWs
Really, the biggest waste with mobile phones is people replacing them if they don't need to.
It's turtles all the way down.
Does wireless charging offer any advantage at all over wired charging, besides looking cool?
Not wearing out a connector.
Wireless charging is what, 20% efficient. So ra ra on the windmills and solar energy, but we're gonna charge our phones at a worse efficiency than Edison's light bulbs cuz it's too hard to plug in a cable.
Sounds about right for all the right thinking SJWs that seem to be running things now.
Transformers are typically above 90% efficient; so why would wireless charging be so abysmally Inefficient?
It has been a long, long time since university. But, I seem to recall that distance is also a factor - and that even seemingly small distances add up quickly. Inverse square, I think?
Which means I'm not willing to speculate on how efficient this will be in real-world use.
Yes. Inverse-square law.
This $20 wireless quick charger for my S7 works pretty darn fast. Is it faster than wired charging? Probably not but it's fast enough for my needs and is convenient. And I'm happy Apple is finally jumping on the wireless charging band wagon.
That not true for wireless phone charging:
1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.
2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.
... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.
Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.
Oooh, whats next?
Some kind of magic connector, that when you plug it in to a computer allows you to drag and drop files directly into the device?
Some kind of futuristic transparent material, like regular window-glass but that doesn't break immediately if you drop it?
Like some kind of magic diamond goblet?
And the whole phone is covered by it, instead of regular window-glass?
knowing apple, they will have their own wirelesscharging system, so they can make extra money from selling the chargers. I do hope they will support Qi wireless charging, as most devices which have wireless charging support that standard. otherwise, just big finger to Apple, and hoping that the EU will call on them for not using a unified standard.
Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.
Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
It'll probably be Qi, they recently joined the Qi consortium so it's likely to be Qi, though they'll probably sell a charger that only responds to the iPhone "signature" (manufacturer ID) embedded in the Qi negotiation signals.
Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Probably not
You misspelt "of course not".
That not true for wireless phone charging:
1) It operates in the near field where the inverse square law doesn't apply.
2) The electric and magnetic forces are uncoupled and it's not streaming radiation out like a light bulb. The energy oscillates between the antenna and the near field.
I'm not sure what the definition of "near" is. But I am pretty sure that, anytime there isn't a "direct" (wired) connection, inverse-square applies.
Prove me wrong. Show me a cite.
Transformers usually have an iron core, wireless charging is effectively an air core (much less efficient), plus there is the potential for misalignment which will reduce efficiency.
We're talking "ideal systems" here. Misalignments need not apply.
And I'm not sure if the core material has much effect, depending on the frequencies involved. And I believe that wireless chargers generally operate in the high kiloHertz up to low GigaHertz regions. I'm not sure iron-core transformers work very well at those frequencies.
Because every phone I've had has ultimately gone to the graveyard because of a failed USB port. Thousands of plug-in/unplug cycles, plus the torquing of the connector by the wire wear them out. Screens and batteries are generally replaceable enough, but I don't have the skills to mirco-solder a new USB connector on the motherboard. Granted, my lightening connectors seem to be more robust, and hopefully USB-C will prove to be as well.
I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.
So... you agree with me? This is a useless feature and the only reason Apple is implementing it is because Android did it first and Apple wants to match Android bullet for bullet.
I don't presume to know the reasons Apple does anything. I do know I don't want it because it is as you say, a useless feature - a step backwards as far as I am concerned.
Did you watch the most recent WWDC keynote? Literally everything they covered was done elsewhere first.
But what does that mean? Does it mean that whoever did it first gets 10 extra years of life or something? In the world of smartphones, I need the thing to work, to make phone calls, to text, to email to give me driving guidance, and occasionally to access the internet. I want it to work well, not first. Apple first, android first means nothing to me.
Which does bring me to a possible show stopper. When I use driving guidance the most, it is on cross country trips that I take several times a year. The phone is in a cradle on the dash, happily plugged in and running in a mode that tends to suck batteries dry quickly. After 16 or so hours driving, I pull off a fully charged phone. ready to program for tomorrow's driving.
Glad you prompted me, I gotta get hold of Apple to see what the options are for someone who has to have plug-in charging.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
... and my guess is that the slashdotters that love it are merely rhapsodizing about it as a feature count because they hate everything Apple, or perhaps don't understand that as a technical solution, its right up there with green ketchup.
And my guess is that you run off on a rant without actually having used a wireless charger with your phone regularly.
Wireless charging is a silly feature on paper. And I find it nice and convenient in practice.
I don't need nor want a wireless charger. Some of my most important uses of my iPhone are for driving guidance. Long days, brightness up full, volume up full, the phone sitting in a cradle, plugged in to it's charger (my Jeep has an inverter in it). How am I going to do that with a wireless charger? Aside from a ridiculous looking kludge.
I don't recall ever saying it doesn't work. I have said often it is a silly solution that is inefficient, and steals valuable interior phone space, and you can't charge while you talk.
But hey - If plugging in a charger is something that inconveniences you so badly, then use wireless technology, and you will be happy. It certainly doesn't work for my use, and the inconvenience of plugging in a charger is about the same as the inconvenience of breathing. I do it without even thinking about it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I agree: I've been using wireless charging since the end of 2012 when I got my Note2, and it's a required feature for me. Why would I want to deal with plugging in my device every time I set it down? I just set it on it's charger, roughly centered, and there's no penalty for picking it up again.
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Are you by any chance that person on the First World Problems meme?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
...yah, maybe it will have wireless charging. But if it doesn't have a built in normal audio jack, it will also not hav me as a customer....
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That's cool, I need abandon my iphone 7
I had the Nexus 4, and the wireless charging was one of the best things about it. So useful to just set the phone down on my desk and have it charge. I was disappointed to hear that feature was going away.
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