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A Colorado Group Wants To Ban Smartphones For Kids (apnews.com)

An anonymous reader quotes the AP: Colorado officials have cleared the language of a proposed ballot measure that would establish the nation's first legal limits on buying smartphones for children. Backers of the move to forbid the sale of smartphones to children younger than 13 would now need about 300,000 voter signatures for the proposal to make the 2018 ballot. The ban would require cellphone retailers to ask customers about the age of the primary user of a smartphone and submit monthly reports to the Colorado Department of Revenue on adhering to the requirement. Retailers who sell a phone for use by a youngster could be fined $500, after a warning.
A Denver-area dad is leading the campaign -- a board certified anesthesiologist who says children change when they get a cellphone. "They go from being outgoing, energetic, interested in the world and happy, to reclusive. They want to spend all their time in their room. They lose interest in outside activities."

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  1. not a government issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    sounds like the guy who came up with this should grow some balls and put his foot down and say no to his kids instead of relying on the government to make a law so he can have an excuse

    1. Re: not a government issue by nachtelfjeiu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's exactly the question: has it been researched and if not, how dare he abuse his title as an MD to put this point forward? I, for one, think that a child growing up today may risk getting socially isolated without a cell phone. It's the world we live in. Deal with it and teach your kids to.

    2. Re:not a government issue by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      sounds like the guy who came up with this should grow some balls and put his foot down and say no to his kids instead of relying on the government to make a law so he can have an excuse

      This. I'm not for legislating parenting techniques. If smartphones are causing kids to become reclusive, then educate the public about it. No need for a ban. Just teach parents that smartphone use for children needs to be monitored and limited. I personally believe it should be limited like any other electronic entertainment, like television, video games, and computers. But a law? No.

    3. Re:not a government issue by MangoCats · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I personally believe it should be limited like any other electronic entertainment, like television, video games, and computers. But a law? No.

      Gambling, prostitution, (paper) porn, alcohol, and any number of other "strongly motivating" forces in this world have been legally restricted "for the good of the nation." There is a significant segment of the population that simply can't deal with easy access to things that provide them a strong dopamine reward. Do cell phones fit this category? For some, yes.

      Do we need a law? No more than we need laws for gambling, prostitution, cocaine, heroin, etc. Probably more mature and effective to provide education, counseling and easy access treatment programs, but that doesn't seem to be the American way.

  2. Re:easy to clip this on to a bill banning burner p by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there any actual evidence that phones are bad for kids?

    My kids got phones when they were 8. We can find them if they get lost, it makes it easy to coordinate pickups. It gives us more freedom to let them go and do what they want, since they can call if they get in situation they can't handle. In fact, we don't let them leave home without their phones. I don't see the downside. I don't think I need an anesthesiologist to tell me how to raise my kids.

  3. Great Idea by Madalik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You ever see a kid with books, they spend their time reading instead of playing outside and socializing. We should ban children from reading so we can have better adjusted children.

  4. Another would-be dictator by Dog-Cow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have no plans to give my daughter, or any future children of mine, a smartphone. Ever*. I already limit iPad time (it's mine, not hers), because I want her to remain interested in other things. But, I don't need any government, or even other parents, telling me how to raise my children.

    * my position is that when she can afford it, she can buy it. She's not banned from having one; she's just not going to get it from me.

  5. Re:easy to clip this on to a bill banning burner p by Beau1080p · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The thinking is that technology interferes with creativity and young minds learn best through movement, hands-on tasks, and human-to-human interaction. Take for instance Waldorf schools. Students at these schools are gaining math, patterning, and problem-solving skills by knitting socks. They aren’t exposed to fractions through a computer program. Instead they learn about halves and quarters by cutting up food. Sounds a bit like summer camp? Well, yes, but parents in Los Altos and at over 150 similar schools across the country say the Waldorf method works and they’re sending their kids to top colleges, from Oberlin to Berkeley. That's my five-and-one-half-cents!

  6. Re:easy to clip this on to a bill banning burner p by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is there any actual evidence that phones are bad for kids?

    They aren't trying to ban cellular telephones for kids, they are trying to ban smartphones for kids. The important difference here is that one is a telephonic communications device and one is a small computer. The reason this matters is because it's the applications that engineered to maximize user interaction using neuroscience. This can lead to very real addictions regardless of age in a similar fashion to gambling addiction. Are there adults that are addicted to their smartphones? Most definitely.

    I'm not arguing in favor of the ban, I'm just answering your question.

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  7. Re:easy to clip this on to a bill banning burner p by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are there adults that are addicted to their smartphones? Most definitely.

    There are a whole lot more adults that are simply addicted to avoidant behavior. If it wasn't smartphones it would be TV. Before TV it would've been a book.

    For times immemorial, extroverts have looked at introverts and decided since introverts would rather spend a large amount of time not socializing there must be something wrong with them.

    No, introverts just don't want to spend time socializing. That's it. That's all. Take our phones, take our computers, we still don't want to sit around in a group of 20 people singing Kumbaya.

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  8. Re:easy to clip this on to a bill banning burner p by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course there's evidence of this, it just changes every couple of years. Previous candidates: Heavy metal, Dungeons and Dragons, [...] stamp collecting, trading cards, [...] Morris Dancing, [...] cave painting [...] banging rocks together. I've left out a few hundred of them just to save space.

    I was the victim of Morris Dancing addiction. My basement was filled with Hurdy Gurdys and thrift shop flower Garlands. I sold my body on the streets to buy an accordion I abandoned and rejected family and friends. I was on a downward spiral that would only end with my demise. Damn those Morrisites and their fancy geegaws and velocipedes.

    Then I bought a smartphone, and kicked my addiction on facebook. Type yes if you agree.

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