Slashdot Mirror
222,000 Jobs Added To US Payrolls In June; Unemployment Rate Rises To 4.4 Percent (npr.org)
From an NPR report: An estimated 222,000 jobs were added to the U.S. economy in June, according to the monthly employment report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics Friday. "The job gains were better than expected -- most economists had predicted a gain of 180,000 jobs," NPR's Chris Arnold reports for our Newscast unit. The unemployment rate rose slightly to 4.4 percent from 4.3 percent -- a 16-year low that was hit in May. "Since January, the unemployment rate and the number of unemployed are down by 0.4 percentage point and 658,000, respectively," the BLS says. Previous estimates of job gains in recent months were revised upwards -- from 138,000 to 152,000 in May and from 174,000 to 207,000 in June, for a net gain of 47,000.
Unemployment numbers don't count those who just straight up gave up on looking for work. I wonder what the numbers would look like if you included working age people on "Social Security Disability". It seems the primary disability here is the lack of ability to find a job and you are too old to go into the military(the other jobs handout program).
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Russian Crabkey
Don't go humping anushoals!!!
pubus secks = GFG,GFG
report on sucessful decoding.
634 432 901 234
Trump 2020!!
Discounting those who don't need to work, what is true unemployment?
That may be a shock to people who don't understand what unemployment actually is.
how does errn mrrk continue to shock and amaze
we need more story errn
did u herd he made a battery that power all of new swaziland
also testla car have music service stream from internet base on user prefs
How do you even get that figure? Are people submitting somewhere that they aren't looking? Is someone reading our minds?
Under the Obama Administration, large number of people got added but the unemployment number barely budge downward.
Under the Trump Administration, large number of people get added but the unemployment number goes upward.
Looks like the "Trump bump" is bumping the wrong set of numbers.
Can't be. It's early. Inflection was Sep, 2015; I'm looking at Aug, 2017 to Mar, 2018 to see the next recession.
I need more time, dammit!
Support my political activism on Patreon.
The census reports don't count homeless people as unemployed nor does it count people who have given up looking. It's a funny system. So these number are, shall we say, conservative if you are looking for real numbers as opposed to number sugar coated for the media/public.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
I have a criminal record.. I have never gone more than a week without work unwillingly. Even in prison.
The data is collected the same way every time, so while "real unemployment" might not be 4.4% the fact that it is down from 10% in 2010 shows a trend of improvement.
Though the labor participation rate is also down over recent years, that shouldn't be a surprise since the second largest generation in US history is leaving the workforce, (boomers are retiring) and the largest generation (millennials) are largely in the workforce already. Until the boomers start dying enmasse those numbers are likely to remain depressed.
All other unemployement indicators follow a similar trend to the official numbers, so if you stick with the trend rather than the exact figure you still get accurate information...
Or you could just dismiss the numbers as lies because they disagree with your personal perception of what you think the numbers should be.
Since you used double negatives, does that mean you deliberately avoided working as much as possible?
Even a non-livable wage is more money than zero money from not working. Explain to me how one lives with no wage.
Reading comprehension fail. You don't know what a double negative is. (Never without work) means always working. (Never without work unwillingly) means always working unless forced not to.
...not easy to find a job in your chosen area, or just not ANY job at all?
Wade,
Have you ever taken a bath?
-The Great White
"I have NEVER gone more than a week without work UNwillingly."
Translation: "I have gone more than a week without work willingly."
"I have never gone more than a week without work willingly."
Translation: Always working unless forced not to.
Many people have told me that there are already 2.4 million new jobs filled by people working in all the new coal mines. Many people. These are the best jobs.
Trolling is a art,
And what it doesn't count not even the U4 are folks who have "given up" but would go back in a heart beat if given the chance.
The trouble is after a certain amount of time, one becomes unemployable - especially in technology. I actually believe just being unemployed - even for a short time - makes one unemployable as a software developer. (I see all the time the phrase "current experience".)
When I didn't put an end date for my last job, I got hits from recruiters. When I put an end date that shows that I'm unemployed, nothing.
"but the unemployment number barely budge downward"???
Unemployement fell from 7.8% to 4.7% under Obama. I don't know where you get the 'didn't budge' bit from. It fell loads. And that's using methods to measure unemployment that were the same as under Bush.
Really, Obama entered the Whitehouse, USA was a failing economy with GDP smaller than EU. He left, it was a booming economy with a bigger GDP than EU. It was a clear win for competent leadership.
The Trumpettes don't want to face it, but he was a good President. I'm not surprised that a lot of government still follows his policies rather than Agent Orange's twitter whining and one page "tax plans".
Also it's interesting to see NPR do this. Only 3 days ago, they were Tweeting the Constitution and Trumpettes were claiming it (The Constitution) was a call to revolution. There aren't many Trumpettes left, and the ones that are, can clearly see the problems in Trump, when they recognize phrases like "A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people" as a call to revolution against Trump!
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/06/npr-tweets-declaration-of-independence/
We the people, not we the Electoral College.
BTW I rent to people like you. They pay on time and don't cause trouble. Mostly. The troublemakers are surprisingly easy to get rid of, I got people for that. They wear uniforms and everything. Very efficient, and affordable.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
If that is the hoop I would have to jump through, I will do it. This sounds like a good deal. So what is this retraining like? Can I choose something like airline pilot, CEO, neurosurgeon, military general, diplomat, etc?
(Never without work unwillingly) means always working unless forced not to.
No, It means he was never without work unless he chose to be without work. He's never been unemployed and looking for work for more than a week.
I don't know if it really qualifies as "charging rent" if the government is paying you to keep them in prison...
Given these numbers don't come from the census (See https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm)... it makes you seem ill-informed. Try reading this: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
But please, pick one of these and look at the historical records, and tell me if they are all following the same kind of changes at the same time. U3 is the number most often reported on.
https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt_archived.htm
The six state measures are based on the same definitions as those published for the United States:
U-1, persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force;
U-2, job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force;
U-3, total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (this is the definition used for the official unemployment rate);
U-4, total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers;
U-5, total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other marginally attached workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers; and
U-6, total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers.
https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm
or
Just love that Hillary!
Vote for Hillary 2020! Stand with HER!
You go girl!
With the US economy near full employment, this would be a good time for the US to start balancing its budget: big cuts to military spending and big increases in taxes on the ultra-rich. Now we'll get to see just how fiscally responsible the Republicans really are. :)
It also doesn't include people who are retired, or children, or stay-at-home parents, or people in prisons/mental institutions/hospitals/etc. Nor should it. Unemployed doesn't mean "not working", it means "ready, able and willing to work but unable to find a job".
Support Right To Repair Legislation.
Not this issue again. There are multiple ways to measure "unemployment", and each are imperfect for different reasons. Part of the problem is that "unemployed" can be a grey area. Lets say Bob is recently retired. He would take up a job if it paid really well or piqued his interest, but Bob otherwise is happy with retirement and is not actively looking. A house wife* may view the job market similarly. Is that "unemployed"?
The metric typically used by the press has been a de-facto standard yardstick for decades, for good or bad.
Pundits often complain about it based on their bias or desired audience influence angle. There are other published metrics of "unemployment", as a nearby message lists, and pundits often switch to one of these others when it suits them.
If a pundit plays such games without explaining the difference and trade-offs, you know they are either biased, manipulative, or clueless. Granted, just because a pundit bungles one issue doesn't mean they bungle everything, but this one is a yellow flag.
* There's probably a PC way to say it. "Non-paid domestic worker?"
Table-ized A.I.
was 2.5 % so let's not get to excited.
Get up!
try 14.4%, that would be somewhat closer to the actual figure.
All the U- numbers have certain guesses, models, and biases involved. For raw data just go for the labor force participation rate which is the least-political measure.
It's slightly improved, but there was clearly no "Obama Recovery" and the US economy hasn't gotten back to pre-crash levels.
"It's the jobs, stupid" as a politician once said.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
/sarc
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
As someone who lives close to some of those former coal mining towns in WV, I'd have to say the core problem comes down to lack of education. The fact that coal mining went away certainly means the primary source of income for people disappeared. But the large percentage of people who still keep trying to do what they've always done, expecting a better/new result is disturbing. If you go out in public in those communities, you see a whole bunch of people who can't spell any words properly if they contain more than about 4 letters. Their math skills are just as rudimentary. Many lack even basic people skills, needed to negotiate things like confrontations with dissatisfied customers in a workplace. They're simply not mentally equipped to be employable in modern society.
You read stories about some of the exceptions to the rule who found success changing career paths from coal miner to software developer and so on. But that's not a realistic short-term plan for most of the people I've seen out there.
Businesses who need a specialized workforce would be wise to realize these places are opportunities in disguise. They need to invest the money in educating and training them as part of a job offer. (As just one example, I was talking to a guy who owns a plumbing company. Anyone working for him full-time can earn up to a 6 figure salary with little trouble, and he's willing to provide training. But he still can't get enough people willing to work for him, simply because most people don't want to do plumbing for a living. IMO, if you can live with mining coal, you can surely live with some sewage backups and bad smells?)
The number of jobs increased, and unemployment rose a bit, a clear sign that people are starting to look again... but it will take a while to unwind from the real 10%+ unemployment rate we actually have.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The wife and I lived in SE OH--maybe a half hour drive to WV--for around ten years back in the '80s. I encountered people working at some of the local businesses who were illiterate. When my wife was working at a bank there were customers (miners) who couldn't write their own name; they made a "mark" that was witnessed and initialed by their friend. Those folks are going to have the worst time of all moving to a new vocation.
CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
You see pretty much the same thing in any inner city ghetto....usually just with more violence added on top.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
President Trump is doing exact as he said.
And democrapes/libtards are having problems with it.
I like how that Trump isn't even mentioned in this.
If a democrape was in office I bet it would be mention all over.
Glad to see all the growth was in STEM and Renewable Energy.
Too bad Comrade Trump lost more fossil fuel jobs in America, though. Sad. Such tiny hands.
-- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
The enormous "grey area" in this oft-quoted unemployment rate is the definition and determination of the "work force". That number seems rather arbitrary and very difficult to estimate accurately. A person's unemployment benefits expire and they are suddenly no longer in the "work force"? Even though UE typically requires people to be actively looking for work? It doesn't make any sense. Unemployment goes down? Great. Does that mean the economy is getting better, or are we in a prolonged recession in which millions of people have been out of work for more than 6 months?
To me, the clearest measure of employment is found in the "A Tables" of the BLS report. This is the employment rate of the population. Simply the number of people employed as a fraction of the total. That number can't be fudged by arbitrarily throwing people in and out of the "work force". It's a clear indication of our economic health as well because the employment rate would not be trending upward during a prolonged recession.
To me, it also seems like the most relevant metric because everyone in our society is dependent on the working people. Sure, there are a few retired people living mostly off their own savings, but even they receive benefits from government and the entire government is funded by the working people. The other non-working people have to get their food, clothing & shelter from somewhere, so the employment rate of the population tells us the number of producers and the number of dependents in the economy. It's hard to spin that number.
Wait, 1980s? That's 25, 35, close to 40 years ago. Pretty sure that most of them are not working now. Quite likely they're all senile or dead by now, or if not at least learned how to read.
Would the next generation be just as illiterate as their parents? Pretty sure seeing Dad have to go to the bank and need someone to sign everything for them was good motivation to learn enough of the "3 Rs" to not have to live like that. We've also seen the creation of the US Department of Education in 1979. I would hope this meant some public schools for some of those miner's... minors? (yeah, bad pun)
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
There are numerous problems with that also. For example, if the economy is bad and stocks go down, people who would otherwise retire may postpone retirement because their 401K's take a hit. The total % of working then is pushed up by this even if conditions are dire.
The age distribution also affects it. If a given population has a lot of retired people, then your rate goes down even if there's nothing wrong with the economy. It's not necessarily a "bad" thing.
Sorry, ain't no perfect metric. Personally, I'd use a conglomeration of metrics, but the weights given would be subject to heavy debate, and thus could be called subjective.
Table-ized A.I.
Re: "Their business goes to forum farms."
Sorry, should be foreign farms.
Table-ized A.I.
IQ is strongly correlated with the kinds of jobs you can hold. Right now, there's almost nothing in the US economy if you're IQ is below about 85 (15% of the population, mostly male). At that IQ, you can only really do repetitive work as instructed in detail. There are a few manual labor jobs left, but automation has nearly eliminated all such jobs already.
In the coming wave of automation, that IQ bar is simply moving up. I expect most of the current simplest jobs - say those doable with n IQ of about 90, to go away. That higher standard will mean 25% of the population will be effectively unemployable.
No one has a good idea what to do about this. Just handing them money is not a great plan - these are people whop, by definition, need a boss and need to be told what to to to be engaged in productive work. And most people need to feel productive in order to maintain mental health.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
The ACTUAL unemployment rate since the 2007/08 recession/depression is around 12-14% but, the government BOTH SIDES of the political isle, will use numbers associated only with those that actually WANT to work, not those that have given up, gone on government assistance, etc, which knocks the rate down to 4-5%. With all of the shuddered businesses, how could any SANE person think everything has been "great" since around 2010?
"The census reports don't count..."
Yeah, Reagan changed the way unemp was calced, and how the dems howled! Well, we're stuck with it now. Until another prez decides he needs to change the calcs to make himself look better.
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
You see pretty much the same thing in any inner city ghetto...
Yeah, and your white trash trailer parks also... Fucking cracker!
Looks more like automation will wipe out middle to upper management first, since it's mostly paper pushing. The folks on top, well, they push the buttons. As for the other 7 billion of us, I don't want to be the one to say.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Put them all in phone tech support. It will be a step up from having to deal with the same IQ bracket from India.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
I would be willing to bet the literacy rate of coal mining areas of WV is quite a bit higher than parts of Chicago.
lol, I just don't understand whats so hard about finding a job. I know people that claim they cant find a job, but in reality they really aren't even trying. Or trying to get jobs they know they will get turned down for.
Why wasn't the 16-year low on the Slashdot's front page back in May? Why is the current move particularly news-worthy?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
* There's probably a PC way to say it. "Non-paid domestic worker?"
Stay at home parent is most-commonly used, at least when raising children is involved.
You can't say no onto has an idea of what to do about this...
You CAN say no one has an idea you like...
Serious question: should we keep such people? Should we allow them to breed?
See if you are in West Virginia, you are just a low IQ person with little hope because you are not cool enough to be in the coast. You are generationally poor, bad attitude, and low ambition. You feel that there is no hope, so you may not try as hard. Ha ha ha, look at those idiots, born with low IQ.
Wait, it seems to me we have other populations in the country who suffer from the same issues. Are you asserting they also suffer from intrinsic, low IQ? Interesting. I think someone even wrote a book you may like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I find it fascinating that people can so readily bash others, so long as the media says its ok to do so to that group. Yet, even hint about this for another group and you will raise a shit-storm. I guess in your world, being consistent doesn't matter, but believing what your told does.
Btw, when the robots, Asians, or whatever come for your job, you will be gleefully posting in these forums that your IQ wasn't high enough, right?
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
The better question should be: How can you be so stupid to only exist in a tiny bubble filled with people who only agree with you and never seriously examine any argument that challenges your world view?
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
The hard truth is that in the U.S the major political parties have merged into a super party that you can call demublicans. They go to same parties, think the same things, and make the same policies. This is why you seldom see much real change with shifting governments. For example, Republicans claimed to want to repeal Obamacare when they didn't have the presidency, but when it is a real option, many forgot their zeal. The reason is that most, including the leaders are demublicans. They all secretly agreed on the policy, and were going to do it, despite what people actually thought.
The sad thing is, they deumblicans divide us by giving each side a colored jersey, and encourage blind loyalty. My God, just look at these forums, It is common to decry Fox News or any conservative source of ideas, but if your team suddenly adopts an idea, well it is just peachy. It just matters that your team said it, not the truth of the matter. Don't believe it? Look at this thread! For years conservatives tried to explain that numbers are rigged to make it look better than the disaster that it is. Now that your team is out of office, you suddenly understand the numbers are being fiddled with because you can blame it on the other guy.
Don't you see it doesn't matter which color jersey wins, we lose?
Do you not understand that the real email server story is that the democrat party colluded to crush the campaign of Bernie Sanders and to suppress popular will? You think your color jersey is good and innocent? Please, wake up.
If we are going to get anywhere and save ourselves, we have to take off our jerseys and form a new team. One where we try to honestly asses the world and look for real solutions. Otherwise, the above posters nightmare will soon be true.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
You think there will be any (non-expert) phone support jobs left anywhere in 10 years? I don't. That's low-hanging fruit for the new wave of automation.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
There's no evidence that IQ is heritable in that sort of direct way. Whatever the genetic component of IQ is, it's subtle and beyond our understanding for now.
And, yes, I think genocide is bad, m'kay?
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Unemployment rate numbers are based on the Bureau of Labor Statistics Household Survey Data, not Census.
Unemployment rates of various kinds of collected. For example, the BLS collects the labor force participation rate (62.8%), the employment-population ratio (60.1%), persons marginally attached to the labor force (1.6 million), the number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers, 5.3 million) and discouraged workers not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them (514,000).
The total number of jobs is from the Bureau of Labor Statistics Establishment Survey Data of employers.
See the Employment Situation Summary.
It takes a certain level of stupid to still think the ACA is not the most misleadingly named law in existence. Sadly, not only does the above poster exist in a world so devoid of facts and personal observation that he doesn't understand this, but someone else of equally limited analytical ability modded him up. Since like most posts supporting liberal ideology on these forums, it contained emotion, pejoratives, and NO LINKS BACKING UP THE ARGUMENTS, I will provide some.
1. Then President Obama told the people that his plan would save them on average $2500 and allow them to keep the same level of care. In fact, they new this to be a lie, as was admitted at a fund raiser where the speaker basically is laughing at how stupid people like you are. Personally, that would bother me, but you may like it when your leaders lie and ridicule you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
2. The cost of medical insurance has more than doubled since AFC was enacted. In 2013, families typically paid $2784. Now, they pay $5712. http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...
3.This year is going to be even more devastating. Here is a link from the liberally biased Politico so you don't think it is just "evil" conservatives making things up:
http://www.politico.com/story/...
4. At no point does Trump say that he wants to remove ACA taxes from the rich. This is simply a deluded fantasy on your part, or something that you read from a basement blogger with this fantasy. In fact, he wants to try to keep many protections for the poor and infirm. I know honesty is hard for you, but try to read first. http://thehill.com/policy/heal...
BTW, yes, I am being harsh and yes I am annoyed. I am sick of slander being modded up in these forums. Lets keep the debates honest and not make shit up. Lets have more reason and less emotion. Or, are you simply scared that if you are honest and analyze facts, you may have to change your world view?
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
I would be willing to bet the literacy rate of coal mining areas of WV is quite a bit higher than parts of Chicago.
Sure, there are parts of Chicago that have day-cares with lots of infants.
Selective manipulation of data sets lets you get far ahead.
But sorry, Bartles, we're already there. CPS knows what's up, downstaters don't mind ruining things for people in the big city.
It's just like Christie in New Jersey. Beach for him, no beach for anybody else.
Feeling productive doesn't need to come from monetary employment. Hobbies and social pursuits (like raising children) can provide that. The fulfillment from that sort of thing is much deeper than (say) operating a cash register, or working as a receptionist, just so that you can collect a paycheck.
Wow took the 4th person to finally get what I was saying. I have always had a job, unless I wanted to fuckoff and make money other ways. Which I did for a year or so here and there. It gets tiring and dangerous though so I decided a life of work was far better.
Plus most corrections officers are people that can't make it as police, who were bullied in school, and think talking shit to somebody behind a door makes them tough. It's funny how their attitude changes when an inmate gets fed up with it and beats the life out of them. They come to work with a whole new respect for a year or so until they forget about it. Not to mention a lot of them hot their wives, which in my opinion makes them worse than the people that are in there for selling drugs.
It's not just "coal country". FWIW, at least 30% of the adults in Memphis are functionally illiterate.
When you are talking about such large segments of society hungry and hopeless, numbering in the tens to hundreds of millions the question is the other way round. Do they need to keep to keep you?
See the Russian revolution and the upper class, the Chinese civil war and the upper class, Cambodia in the 70s and the elites, Zimbabwe and the elite whites.
There are fee forces on earth as strong as a society in revolution, it's often sparked by extreme inequality, and the results are not always pretty. Especially not for the elites.
We don't have good evidence about genetic heritability of IQ, but we do know it is quite heritable. Studies on the genetic basis of intelligence usually don't reproduce precisely, and we don't even know how much heritability is generic rather than environmental (nature vs nurture, respectively).
However, we can say that studies trying to produce widespread, durable changes in intelligence through environmental interventions consistently failed: the studies that show results cannot scale beyond a small group, or the results fade within a few years, or both.
So because we know intelligence is heritable, and that we don't know how to improve it, it's not as easy as you would like to dismiss policy changes relating to child raising. It's obviously immoral to outright ban it, or even to punish it through heavy taxes or the like, but we can ask whether tax subsidies and benefits programs encourage bad behaviors.
Before I forget, since I just owned your ignorant ass so hard by providing facts and examples to your childish challenge:
Game
Set
Match
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
That automation is already done on the web, and I for one won't put up with a non human on the phone. I mash zero until I get a human, I can't imagine I'm the only one.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
True, but in those examples, the peasants came out worse each time, not better...
So they did it to themselves, which is ironic...
Genocide is bad, but that doesn't make 50 Billion people good either...
Too many people have a childish notion of big problems in that they want there to be a "perfect" solution that doesn't involve any bad.
It doesn't work that way.
If you're talking non-genetic factors, then it's mostly nutrition. Not that we can fix that worldwide, despite there being plenty of food. In the US, though, there's both enough nutrition and plentiful access to information for almost everyone. However, IQ still tends to revert to the mean, regardless of the parents.
I doubt there's much in terms of good or bad child raising that actually affects IQ, beyond starvation or denying access to educational resources on the internet.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Feeling productive doesn't need to come from monetary employment.
Psychology says otherwise: most people need to feel like they're "lifting a load". Raising children counts, sure, but not hobbies or socializing.
The fulfillment from that sort of thing is much deeper than (say) operating a cash register, or working as a receptionist, just so that you can collect a paycheck.
I'm guessing your IQ is somewhat higher than 90? Being able to do useful work without having it assigned to you in detail (or it being very repetitive) requires a certain IQ. The idea that self-defined work is more fulfilling - sure, for some people that's true, but not everyone, and particularly, not likely the people displaced by current automation.
It might be a very different story 50 years from now.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Perhaps you do understand what the word dumb means. To conclude liberal leanings from someone who defends liberal sources while discounting all conservative ones and who defends liberal thought logically follows.
If I had to guess, I would say that you think that you are libertarian, even though you really don't know what that means.
Since you probably not have grown as a person and read any opposing viewpoint news, here is another one for you from today. It was oddly absent from the NY times.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...
There are many others like it. If you read more, you might understand why so many were not in favor of Mrs. Clinton. My second guess is that while I am aware of Trumps many, annoying flaws, you are mostly unaware of the negative aspects of Clinton. If you are aware of all those and think she would make a good leader, then you truly are stupid.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.