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Facebook Messenger Globally Tests Injecting Display Ads Into Inbox (techcrunch.com)

From a TechCrunch report: Messaging is the center of mobile, and Facebook wants ads in front of all those eyes. After seeing "promising results from Australia and Thailand," Facebook Messenger is expanding its display ad beta test that lets businesses buy space between your chat threads. Later this month, a small percentage of users will start seeing ads in the Messenger app's home tab. Facebook tells TechCrunch that where these ads appear in the inbox "depends on how many threads a user has, the size of their phone's physical screen and the pixel density of the display." Over the next month, Facebook will gradually roll out Messenger ads to all advertisers globally. They'll have the ability to buy through the Ads Manager or Power Editor, with Messenger becoming one of the automatic placements for Facebook ads alongside the main Facebook app, Instagram and the Audience Network of other apps and sites. Ads aren't targeted by what people write in messages, and instead use the same Facebook targeting, measurement tools and minimum 50 percent pixels in view standard for viewability.

71 comments

  1. Can't wait for by CodeHog · · Score: 1

    Mind to computer linkage to take off. "This link brought to you by PharmaCor."

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    Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
    1. Re:Can't wait for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So sad ... and so expected. What did tweeters/yakmen/facebabes think they were getting ?

  2. Great. by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just don't get enough of those co-dependent, needy messages from Facebook already. I rarely get on to Facebook, because while I consider it somewhat useful, there is also a lot of noise. I don't care that my second cousin Betty just posted a picture. I do care that my uncle Albert has a birthday today. I scan it once a week or so to keep up to date.

    Unfortunately, Facebook seems to be "all or nothing" in the way it feeds news.

    I get that they have to make money, but filling my inbox with spam, and texting me as if something meaningful has been sent is pretty damn disgusting as a tactic.

    1. Re:Great. by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Anyone still on Facebook is a loser.

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      When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    2. Re:Great. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I just don't get enough of those co-dependent, needy messages from Facebook already. I rarely get on to Facebook, because while I consider it somewhat useful, there is also a lot of noise. I don't care that my second cousin Betty just posted a picture. I do care that my uncle Albert has a birthday today. I scan it once a week or so to keep up to date.

      I use facebook daily... but it's never to communicate with people. It's almost always to look at meme's or car pictures or whatever I find funny. When they uncoupled messenger and made it a separate app, that's when I stopped using it.

      If porn sites advertise themselves as the "facebook of sex", then Facebook must be the "1 cup and 2 girls of personal communication".

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  3. "...the center of mobile" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mobile what, exactly?

    1. Re:"...the center of mobile" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Alabama.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  4. Messenger- why? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

    Tell me again why I need to install a dedicated Facebook app to send messages?

    If I want to text someone, I'll send a text. If they insist on using FB messages, I'll use the desktop web site (on my phone) to read it.

    This was a bad idea for users from day 1, and I will not be a part of it. Bring on the good technology in its place.

    1. Re:Messenger- why? by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They've made it increasingly hard on mobile to read messenger messages without the dumb app. I don't get very many and I usually just delete them and contact the person in another medium. The people who insist on using it, I just delete their messages and when they get annoyed about why I'm not responding them I tell them I don't use it.

      I don't actually understand why it has to be a separate app, probably just another part of the global domination game I guess.

    2. Re:Messenger- why? by sycodon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Facebook is desperately trying to become the next AOL.

      I am hoping they succeed by skipping straight to the end of AOL's life.

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      When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    3. Re:Messenger- why? by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      ITs so bad, even the Google email app DEMANDS access to pretty much everything, mic, storage, contacts, camera....its become EXACTLY what gmail was supposed to kill, the bloated email client. IT doesnt jsut ask once, it continually asks, I had to dismiss the permission prompt FIVE TIMES to send one text email through the app. It complains, at every stage, even if you are simply sending text. I uninstalled it and use Firefox to access WEBmail now. Bascially we have come to the place where EVERY interface will have ads put into ANYTHING you are looking at. We have lost the UI, forever.

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      Good-bye
    4. Re:Messenger- why? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I am hoping they succeed by skipping straight to the EOL of AOL.

      FTFY.

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      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
    5. Re:Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bascially we have come to the place where EVERY interface will have ads put into ANYTHING you are looking at. We have lost the UI, forever.

      WTF?

      Yes, shitty apps exist. I'm not saying they don't. But you don't have to run one of the shitty ones. Almost all email readers don't insert ads, nor deliberately do anything else obnoxious against the user.

      You are bitching about one app, that you just happened to get from an ad company, and then lamenting "we lost the UI, forever!" Please. Just because you hired The Hamburglar to guard your hamburgers and he did a shitty job, that doesn't mean hamburger storage is hopeless. It just means you made a mistake. We all do. Try again, just with a couple extra minutes thought next time, based on your prior experience.

    6. Re:Messenger- why? by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Tell me again why I need to install a dedicated Facebook app to send messages?

      That's pretty simple: to lock you into Facebook's platform, and allow Facebook to log all your messages. That's not so easy if you use SMS. Why are you trying to keep secrets from Facebook? What do you have to hide?

      This was a bad idea for users from day 1

      Since when are the users' needs and desires important? This is good for Facebook, and that's all that matters.

      and I will not be a part of it.

      Then you're going to be relegated to obscurity and irrelevance, because all your family members will be using Facebook as they share videos and articles (probably from far-right-wing "news" sites; these are very popular on Facebook).

      Bring on the good technology in its place.

      If by "good technology" you mean something that's in the best interest of privacy-advocating users and not locked into any one company, then it'll never happen. What corporation would have an incentive to do such a thing? More importantly, name any such communications technology that exists now, and then look up how old it is and how popular it currently is.

    7. Re:Messenger- why? by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Show me apps i can actually trust on the Google Play store. ITs a huge cess pit of predatory apps. WHo are the reputable vendors that make apps with no ads? Hell even fucking Sennheiser put ads in their bluetooth control app. I called them out on it, and they said basically they dont see a problem. EVEN MY BANK APP SHOWS THIRD PARTY ADS. IN the middle of a money transfer the fucking thing asked me to rate the app. ITs not just google, there is no way to get a trusted file manager, or a terminal or any of that stuff from a trusted vendor, THEY ALL SUCK. Who is making apps that actually respect the user?

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      Good-bye
    8. Re:Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't exactly understand you. Email was written at a time UIs were very simple. It did its job well. Texting and instant messaging came through in a very similar way. It's just that today, companies are coming up with more invasive ways to make money off of you using specialized access to the previously open platforms. The solution to this is to demand they deliver the expected user experience again. We haven't forgotten, so how is it lost?

    9. Re:Messenger- why? by sycodon · · Score: 1

      thanks

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      When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    10. Re: Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use k9 mail, no ads

    11. Re:Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      on the Google Play store.

      I think I found your problem. If I'm looking for an Android app, I always try F-Droid first. Open source software is nearly always higher quality than closed source in my experience. If I can't find it there, I'll use the Google Play store, but I'll expect junk with ads (which are sometimes blocked by AdBlock, but I think that requires a rooted device anyway).

    12. Re:Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have injected a line of code into the mobile version that opens messanger in the app store, which is pretty dirty of them. That was all well and good, so you just selected 'request esktop version' instead and the line goes away. Then somehow they've managed to make the desktop version look different on phone to the mobile version, so it's hard to read and almost impossible to use. Not sure how the responsiveness got changed for the worse, but I'm sure they did it on purpose.

      I don't think I could be a developer for them, I have too many standards and morals.

      I still won't install it though. I have the shortcut for m.facebook.com/messages saved in Opera mini. It looks like shit but I can see if I get a message and it won't try to get me to install the app. Then if it's something that I need to respond to I can text the person.

    13. Re:Messenger- why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is going the way of MySpace. They are separating the messenger out now, not for technical reasons, but to try to hold onto some of the messaging market when the world leaves the website in droves.

  5. Remember that movie, Idiocy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or something like that? The actor I think was in an X-Files, too, about vampire pizza delivery. The actress was Minnie Ripperton's daughter (neddle scratch that). Anywho, it was set in the future, and there were nothing but ADS everywhere. And here you are, there, now!

    And Welcome. To the machine!

    1. Re:Remember that movie, Idiocy by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

      Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    2. Re:Remember that movie, Idiocy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fry was frozen on NYE 1999, how would he know about 21st century advertising?

    3. Re:Remember that movie, Idiocy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leela said 20th century.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g

      Fry didn't have to suffer through the deadly years of Facebook.

    4. Re:Remember that movie, Idiocy by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I pasted it from IMDB, so I blame them for getting the quote wrong. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt05...

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  6. I can quit Facebook anytime I want by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

    Drug addicts say this all the time, so it must be true.

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    1. Re:I can quit Facebook anytime I want by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Drug addicts say this all the time, so it must be true.

      Drug addicts can change which dealer they get the drugs from if they feel like they are being ripped off.

      There are SO many options for chat and messaging, facebook is just one. And the others don't tend to do ads like this.

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      In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
    2. Re:I can quit Facebook anytime I want by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I'll stick to MMORPGs, I prefer to pay for my addictions the old-fashioned way.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    3. Re:I can quit Facebook anytime I want by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      It's starting to occur to me that Facebook might not always be the dominant social media platform, even though it certainly seems like that today. Usually when companies do things like this - squeezing/monetizing existing users - it means they think new users won't be coming in great numbers.
      Of course, it may just mean Facebook has already locked in the whole planet and so things like this are their only option for further revenue growth.

  7. Fifteen Million Merits by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

    If I skip the ads, will I lose my merits? I pedal hard for them!

  8. Use Facebook Blocker. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Facebook Blocker Firefox add-on.

    Google, Apple, and Facebook and their customers will keep increasing the abuse, apparently. Abusing other people is personally damaging, but the managers of those companies apparently don't have the social understanding to realize that.

    1. Re:Use Facebook Blocker. by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


      You don't need a facebook blocker...that only solved part of the facebook issue. You need Privacy Badger (blocks facebook, twitter and the rest of them) + uBlock Origin.

      It does not hurt to always brows in private mode in Firefox. Sure Chrome might be a better browser but it also tells google everything you go and that displays custom ads and shopping results tailored to you...

      If you value your privacy do not stop just at the application level. Get to the OS AND hardware level if possible. An OS that respects your privacy; may I recommend a non proprietary hardware platform as well? -> Librem laptops from https://puri.sm/

      I'm not sold on the PureOS itself although I like the concept (you can install Qubes, better I think) but the hardware bit is as "transparent" as you can get.

      Note: yes I am aware this is using CoreBoot that can work on many other platforms but unlike many other platforms

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      A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
  9. Just when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just when I was getting semi-comfortable ditching SMS for FB Messenger. Oh well, back to SMS.

  10. The Solution is.... by Chronus1326 · · Score: 1

    The Solution is to not use Facebook Messenger, second only to Don't trust Facebook as a company.

    1. Re:The Solution is.... by Chronus1326 · · Score: 1

      Also, what happened to AIM, my buddy list is a ghost town these days.

    2. Re:The Solution is.... by Khyber · · Score: 2

      People got stupid and moved to Telegram.

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    3. Re:The Solution is.... by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

      Yep Facebook and Messenger will get permanently deleted from my phone the first spam they send.

  11. Who are you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't actually understand why it has to be a separate app, probably just another part of the global domination game I guess.

    From the attacker's point of view, it's best to specify "use this app" because you can have the app do whatever you want (such as show ads to your adversary).

    From the defender's point of view, it's best of specify "use this open protocol" because then the user is in control of what the app does (such as abstain from showing ads to you).

    Are you Facebook? Then you should be telling people to use their app.

    Are you anyone other than Facebook? Then you should be using XMPP or maybe SMS, and I couldn't even begin to guess which app is the right one for you.

    It's all about who you are. That'll tell you which thing you want, in the zero-sum conflict between Facebook and its users.

  12. telephone sanitizers report to the "B" ark by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    so this is something one would have to use Facebook to be effected by?

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re: telephone sanitizers report to the "B" ark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      effected

      ffs

  13. Just use FBPURITY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you must use facecrack, then get a copy of FBPURITY!
    No more ads!

    1. Re:Just use FBPURITY by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 2

      A thousand times THIS. I started using FB Purity during the election since I couldn't stand all those political posts my friends were making and I haven't looked back since. My feed shows me exactly what I want it to and nothing more. It allows you to get rid of annoying crap like the 'Trending News' ticker or Game Invites and filter messages based on keywords. It's great for cutting through the crap.

    2. Re:Just use FBPURITY by ScottyKUtah · · Score: 1

      +1 for FB Purity! Another nice feature is the blocking of key words. Type in "Jayden K Smith" and every post containing that phrase disappeared. Rather nice.

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      He who laughs last is at 300 baud.
  14. Take my money, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why can't the messaging world be more like normal telephony? or E-mail? You know, with things like standards, a universal shared namespace and interoperability between providers?

    I would gladly pay for such a service instead of having to deal with the likes of Facebook.

    1. Re:Take my money, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is like email. You just aren't using it. What do you think XMPP is?

      And you can pay someone, but you don't have to if you install your own jabberd or something like that.

  15. What would happen if phone companies did this? by mark-t · · Score: 2

    Like, in the middle of while you were talking to somebody, you suddenly needed to listen to 15 to 30 second advertisement trying to sell you on getting new auto insurance or buying coca-cola?

    This poses no less of a problem.

    1. Re:What would happen if phone companies did this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you'd expect not to pay a phone bill or rental charge for the line.

      Facebook is free. You get ads.

      Phone calls cost. You don't get ads.

    2. Re:What would happen if phone companies did this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you pay for your phone service, you dont pay for facebook. facebook needs to make money some how.

    3. Re:What would happen if phone companies did this? by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Okay... bad example.

      And Skype did the same thing with Skype-to-Skype calls IIRC.

      But y'know, it's not like they don't plaster their service with ads already... why interfere with basic communication?

      If ICQ had done something like this back when it was being the big deal that it was, I doubt that instant messengers ever would have become popular at all - they would have been seen as just another avenue for unwanted spam.

  16. weasel words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ads aren't targeted by what people write in messages, and instead use the same Facebook targeting, measurement tools and minimum 50 percent pixels in view standard for viewability.

    What they will do: target an ad at both you and someone you are in a conversation with, which takes up half your screen. Then watch the conversation to see if you mention the product. Charge the company:
    1. extra for special ad placement
    2. extra for watching for keywords
    3. extra because the keyword was mentioned (See how effective our ad platform is!?!?)
    4. ????
    5. Profit

  17. On mobile use mobile website, no apps by herrlich_98 · · Score: 1

    First I tried tweaking the fb app and Messager app to tweak down tracking and auto-play videos etc. And each time there was some sort of fb privacy tracking story I would get a bit more paranoid. I deleted the Messages app. Later a deleted the regular Facebook app. My general feeling is that I am tracked less and have more privacy although I don't specifically know what. I do slightly miss more active notifications of Facebook activity.

    Facebook is like one of those people at a party who greets you with an uncomfortably long hug... they feel or want to be closer to you than you to them.

  18. Premium service by captaindomon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why doesn't Facebook offer a premium service to users? I like Facebook, it lets me keep in touch with family and friends in a semi-organized way. They have 2 billion active monthly users. They make approx. 2.3 billion per month in revenue. Can I just pay them two dollars a month for an ad-free service? They would be making money. I don't have to see ads. Win-win for everyone.

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    Just because I can hook a shark from a boat, I do no offer to wrestle it in the water.
    1. Re:Premium service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They make approx. 2.3 billion per month in revenue.

      That's it? They have to do such crazy things to their users in order to make THAT LITTLE? Considering how valuable all that private data they are collecting is, if it's not being translated into money then that leaves only power. Influencing elections, stock market, individual business sectors, etc. Scary thought.

    2. Re:Premium service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have two words for you:
      - Flickr
      - Email

      Must conversations really be posted on a wall? Can one not just talk/write to another person or group of people?
      Email is not so welcome for receiving 100 pics, hence Flickr...

    3. Re:Premium service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because then they'll take your two bucks and go hey, we could make even more money if we served ads, too! Or sold your data, or myriad other things. Corporate greed FTW.

    4. Re:Premium service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations on not understanding the discussion. Facebook Messenger is Facebook's IM/group chat feature, which does exactly what you describe. I avoid it in favor of email or other mechanisms because it's Facebook, but it has nothing to do with broadcasting to the world, just your contact and Facebook.

    5. Re:Premium service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cost of tracking subscribers, their payments, setting up customer service to deal with accounts, refunds etc... They'd make more money on the ads. They don't care about your user experience, sorry.

  19. Exceeds Your Mobile Plan Data Cap? by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not a fan of this idea. FB Messenger spams could exceed the data caps on mobile plans ($$$) and create a backlash from angry customers.

    When Apple launched the iCloud, customers found their data caps exceeded because iOS was shoving high density data (photos, movies, etc) between other iOS and OSX devices WITHOUT TELLING THE USER.

    Not that I'm worried - I refuse to install any social media app on my mobile device. They gobble up battery juice and data bandwidth. WOMBAT (Waste Of Money, Brains, And Talent).

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  20. death warble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this has been coming for a long time now, unfortunately the share owners require more and more profits for the percentage of the company they "own" there is really only so much monetization that can happen in expanding user base now a days (with what 1.5 B users?) so now they must find a way to monetize more.

    why are they doing this to messenger? simply because some people only use messenger and dont actually check their feed. I was one of those people, I only had the messenger app installed and never actually checked my feed so i was one of a small subset of users that they were not monetizing. thankfully i left facebook, but before i did i sent a contact list wide message with the numerous other ways i could be reached (email, text, phone call). I stayed in contact with maybe 10% of my contact list. I have since concluded that facebook simply hooks into everyones voyeuristic needs to know what other people are doing. At some point people will realize that the benefits of facebook are not worth the noise that they are being forced to ingest.

    Thats what happens when people are your product, it is not a sustainable market because your product has a mind of its own and you can only control it soo much.

  21. U expect less from Herr Judenberg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jews believe this of others they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all (for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Perrone, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud. This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Khazar/Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple):

    There are three types of people who call themselves Jews:

    1. True Torah [Sephardic] Jews: these are the descendants of Prophet Jacob-Israel (Jacobites or Israelites) (about 5%-10% of all Jews)

    2. Khazarian or Ashkenazi Jews: these are the descendants of a Turkic idol/phallic worshiping tribe who migrated to Russia in the 7th Century A.C. and whose nobility converted to Judaism in the 8th Century A.C. and now inhabit mostly Europe. (about 90%-95% of all Jews)

    3. Zionist Jews: these are the ones from the 2 above who are pretending to be Jews for political reasons but whoâ(TM)re are actually Illuminists-Luciferian-Masonic-Satanists as Harold Wallace Rosenthal admits in this interview.

    They are led by the neo-Pharisees (occult-priest-banklords). They want to establish a Zionist Luciferian state from the Nile to the Euphrates from where they plan to rule the Earth. The new Israeli Supreme Court funded by the Rothschilds Banklords is full of Masonic Symbols, just like the B.I.S. Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, which is the Mother of All Private Central Banks.

    The hexagram symbol on the Israeli flag is the ancient Star of Moloch, a Satanic-Baal deity to which people were sacrificed. There is no such thing as a Star of David which the modern Jews have been fooled into believing; however, the True Torah Jews are not fooled by the Zionists Illuminatis and you can visit their websites for more info .

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be serv

  22. Adblock for Messenger? by hduff · · Score: 1

    It's that or I just delete Messenger.

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    "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
  23. Hope they won't fuck up Whatsapp next by dnaumov · · Score: 1

    Even before this, they have basically killed Messenger for me. I can no longer find an option to archive a conversation on the mobile app and it's filled with useless shit that automatically reappears some time after you close it. Apparently there is an official "Messenger Lite", but thats only officially available to budget Android users, not flagship Android or iOS. It's reached the point where I've basically given up on Messenger because it's just frustrating. Hope they won't "improve" Whatsapp in a similar fashion, or I would expect the amount of people in my circle that use Telegram and Signal to suddenly spike.

  24. Block FB in hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
    127.0.0.1 ssl.facebook.com

    ...and just to be on the safe side:
    127.0.0.1 *.facebook.com

    I've had that in place for years, never missed it.

    1. Re:Block FB in hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's my list, if anyone's got anymore please share :)
      (also, how do you get monospace font here?)

      127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 login.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 www.login.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 fbcdn.net
      127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.net
      127.0.0.1 fbcdn.com
      127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.com
      127.0.0.1 static.ak.fbcdn.net
      127.0.0.1 static.ak.connect.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net
      127.0.0.1 www.connect.facebook.net
      127.0.0.1 apps.facebook.com

  25. Re:Facebook is SHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because I don't have a better way of staying in touch with my friends from other countries.

  26. Use plain old e-mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really. SMTP, IMAP, MIME, PGP. All stable, well-documented protocols. Granted, they've accumulated some cruft, but they evolve (albeit slowly), that's the price of interop.

    Why do we want interop, you ask? Decentralization. Multitude of implementations *and instances*.

    Why the fuck someone would want "Facebook mail" (or "Google mail", for that) really escapes me.

    Sheep.

  27. Re:Block FB by IP address by knorthern+knight · · Score: 1

    Block input and out from and to the following CIDRs. The one that affects you will depend on what country you're in.

    31.13.24.0/21
    31.13.64.0/18
    66.220.144.0/20
    69.63.176.0/20
    69.171.224.0/19
    74.119.76.0/22
    103.4.96.0/22
    173.252.64.0/18
    204.15.20.0/22

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    I'm not repeating myself
    I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user