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Former Astronaut Julie Payette To Be Canada's Next Governor General (www.cbc.ca)

MightyMartian shares a report from CBC.ca: Former astronaut Julie Payette will be the Queen's new representative in Canada, CBC News has confirmed. The 53-year-old Montrealer, who speaks six languages, will be named the 29th governor general, a position that comes with a $290,660 annual salary and an official residence at Rideau Hall. Payette, who is also an accomplished athlete, pianist and choral singer, will succeed outgoing Gov. Gen. David Johnston. A computer engineer with a commercial pilot license, Payette was picked from among 5,330 applicants in 1992 to be one of four new astronauts with the Canadian Space Agency (CSA). She participated in two space flights to the International Space Station and served as the CSA's chief astronaut between 2000 and 2007.

MightyMartian adds: "I defy anyone else to find a head of state who is an astronaut!"

109 comments

  1. A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    That must be nice.

    1. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A great mind wasted standing for the queen with not much more to do than sign documents and attends official functions... very sad.

    2. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      That's meaning she has free personal time for science and stuff.

    3. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think there's some truth in this, if I've learnt anything about Trudeau since he became Canada's PM it's that he's damn good at PR, but mostly full of shit behind the scenes.

      He's been constantly attacking the US over Trump's muslim ban and so forth, and attacking Britain's insularism over Brexit also for example, yet he's still got a fundamentally broken eTA system that prevents random people from entering the country.

      So for example, current processing times on eTA that don't get auto-approved is 91 days (as per the Canadian immigration phone line, their website still lies and says from minutes to 72 hours max) - you can get permission to enter North Korea in 30 days for crying out loud. Some people are also having their eTAs cancelled and not finding out until they're due to fly and not being given a reason why. Canadian immigration is entirely faceless and there's no way to get any information out of them or ask questions about these things so that people with no criminal records, who have been to Canada with no problems at all many times in the past and so forth are just outright banned from entering the country with no reason given, and no way to appeal. Even Trump's muslim ban, no matter how misguided is at least fucking transparent so that people aren't wasting money.

      But on this particular topic, Trudeau has been vocal about how great he is for allowing Syrian refugees to settle, which is great, but if you're not part of that headline group, and are, say, just a high skilled worker, then Canada's immigration process is far more difficult than that of even Britain which again Trudeau chastises as insular.

      There are of course many other flagrant promises broken in other areas - electoral refom being an obvious one.

      This fits his modus operandi - make a big gesture that gets headlines, then do fuck all in practice to back up the gesture such as freezing funding on basic scientific research in the most recent budget.

      I understand why people kicked Harper out, and I'm glad they did. But if one thing should be clear about Trudeau by now it's that he's an egocentric spoilt child who wants to be in the news but doesn't actually much give a fuck about living up to many of his claims. He's done an amazing PR job of selling Canada as open and forward thinking, whilst retaining one of the most opaque and restrictive migration regimes, even for temporary visitors, in the world - that's fine if that's what Canadians want, but it's also then hypocritical to pretend Canada is something it's not.

    4. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if you thought he was bad, you should check out Macron... that guy is a Trudeau on steroids.

      Never trust the Blairites. They look all hip and shiny and promise everything to everyone, but underneath that is an over-confident egomania that's one part pure ambition (which always means pleasing those who already have power) and one part craving to be loved.

    5. Re:A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      John Glenn, er, Senator John Glenn wants to return from the grave and tell you to suck it.

    6. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how should any of this be 'surprising' to anyone. Current Trudeau is NOT his father...consider Justin's 'degree' & school history. He has a teaching degree & dropped of college twice while attempting to get more expansive (I don't want to say 'difficult' and piss teachers off) degrees. And I could tell stories about him (admittedly 3rd hand so veracity is open to debate...e.g. I know people that hung out with him & some of his friends) that would make your head spin.

      Say what you want about Pierre (e.g. you don't have to have liked what he did or how he did it), he WAS a 'leader'...he wasn't just all 'fluff' & marketing.

      Justin has none of his father's political acumen or skill. He's a 'pretty face', who has his father's last name so that wins huge marks in Quebec but otherwise no more 'skilled' than any random person on the street. Not that 'random people on the street' shouldn't aspire to be Prime Minister, but to get there you better have a solid belief system of your own (e.g. what you expect to accomplish in politics), ability to convince the country of it, and be able to implement it. Justin is simply the 'Marketing face' of his party, elected as the head of the Liberals purely to get the Liberals back in to power by leveraging his last name. Got to give the Liberals 'props' for knowing it would work, but its sad that a great deal of the country 'fell' for it. Than again, given how the country flops back & forth between 'Liberals' and "PCs" (a good thing in my mind), the Liberals were likely going to win regardless of who the leader was, in which case though if they had any care for the country you'd think they'd have elected a leader that was actually qualified for the position.

    7. Re: A government that isn't afraid of science! by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      As I get older, I seem to be getting more xenophobic. So I'm OK with this. Any truly talented individuals really don't have a problem working in Canada. 3 months is nothing, many people have wives waiting to come over after the husband has been here for years. My issue is with the immigrants who do not make any effort to integrate themselves into Canada. I'm talking about the people who have been here 20-30 years and still don't speak English (or barely). Or people who have resting bitch/dick face. I grew up on the East Coast where everyone was friendly in any business situation. I just don't see the friendly customer service, they just look like they want to kill themselves or be anywhere else. They boast about ripping people off, etc. All my immigrant friends who have put down roots in the community (kids play soccer, hockey, and mingle with Canadians) speak really good English and friendly to chat and hang with. It's interesting to run into a recent immigrant run down other immigrants for the same reason. One Russian with really good English (hardly a trace of accent) came to Toronto without ever speaking English before. He took night school English lessons for 6 months. He said if an immigrant doesn't learn English in 2 years, they are not trying and should be returned. I don't disagree. I have two friends from Peru that have been here for 10-15 years. Their English has really improved, but one is still fucking annoying to talk to. If she spoke English at home instead of Spanish, she would have been fluent 10 years ago. Immigrating to Canada is a fucking privilege, not a right. Now get off my lawn.

  2. serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by turkeydance · · Score: 5, Informative

    is not "a head of state"

    1. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well trump seems to think that way, and is definitely 'out there'.

    2. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have to understand that the vast majority of British and Commonwealth political issues such as this are more based in tradition than actual ability - while the governor general does "serve at Her Majesty's pleasure", that would never be exercised these days, as the position is largely controlled via "recommendations" given by the countries head of government and not from the Queen herself.

      It would be extremely unusual if the Queen were to simply sack a governor general, and would probably prompt a constitutional crisis - its no different to the fact that the Queen cannot really do anything politically even in the UK. She "chooses" the head of the largest party in Parliament to form a government, but the last time she actually exercised a choice (asking someone other than the head of the largest party), there was significant debate about it and there were a lot of calls for her to be removed altogether as a result.

      In Canada, considering the governor general as "head of state" has been a common aspect of successive governments for decades - so the submitter doesn't actually misspeak...

    3. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Engineer, musician, astronaut...still has to swear personal loyalty and curtsey to someone on the other side of the planet who just happens to have the right blood in her veins.

    4. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      You mean the Kekistani God Emperor Trump?

    5. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      ...who serves under the great god Kek. I fought in the great Meme War. That was a great time!

    6. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Hey, you don't know what the Queen does in her personal time.

    7. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Canada, considering the governor general as "head of state" has been a common aspect of successive governments for decades - so the submitter doesn't actually misspeak...

      This is 100% wrong.

      No Canadian would ever call the GG the 'head of state'. Certainly not the political class.

      You are just making shit up now...

    8. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by J+Story · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wrong. The Queen is Head of State. Only the very uneducated think otherwise, and it has never been a "common aspect of successive governments for decades". The website of the Governor General plainly states: "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and Head of State. The Governor General is the representative of the Queen in Canada."

      Case closed.

    9. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by sd4f · · Score: 2

      As an Australian, us subjects really aren't bothered. It's entirely honorific and completely out of sight from regular life. We are our own country, we just happen to be part of the commonwealth, meaning the queen's head appears on our money. The one time in Australian political history where she was requested to intervene in a political situation was in 1975, and she either couldn't or wouldn't (not sure which exactly). All I can really say on the topic is, it does appear outdated and archaic today, to have a monarch, but with that said, the commonwealth has been successful and effective in establishing free societies, albeit that may be due to lessons learnt from the war of independence.

    10. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Shadilay.

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    11. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by dwywit · · Score: 1

      She declined to intervene. Kerr sacked Whitlam, Whitlam got on the phone to Buckingham Palace to "advise" HM to terminate Kerr's commission (i.e. sack him), HM (via her advisors) declined to have anything to do with it. I don't think she even ended up speaking to Whitlam. The generally acknowledged position was that HM felt that it was a matter for Australians, IOW "I'm not going to get dragged into this, sort it out yourselves".

      While there is much to admire in the models of other countries, I prefer to keep heads of state and heads of government as separate people. We've been served pretty well by our current system, I don't want it changed for some vague ideal of republicanism (republicanism is great in theory, but I haven't seen much practical success lately).

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    12. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in a purely ceremonial role, Canadians do not pay taxes to the UK, we have our own passports, and we can declare war on who ever we want including the UK.

    13. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's Queen of Canada, dumbass.

    14. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...who serves under the great god Kek. I fought in the great Meme War. That was a great time!

      Except the Bowling Green Massacre. That was utter carnage. Muslims running everywhere with swords, AK-47's and RPGs. Slaughtering all the women and children and screaming alaah-akbar. Nothing left there now but smoldering earth.

    15. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you still sing 'God save the Queen!'

    16. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Well, in the present-day USA, you're expected to swear personal loyalty and curtsey to someone who just happens to have the right blood in his veins.

    17. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Constitutionally, the Queen or more precisely any British monarch cannot sack the GG. That ability was removed when can repatriated and amended it constitution back in the early 80s under the current prime minister's father P.E. Trudeau.

    18. Re:serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AND? You do know Canada has a Constitution that Queen Elizabeth II signed thus giving up ALL power in Canada (e.g. the BNA act is no longer in force)...end of story. The Queen is no more 'head of state' than I am, other than we like to say so for 'marketing purposes' (e.g. for some reason people think a Monarch has 'cache'). The Queen (and thus the Governor General) has no power to stop laws, trust me, if the GG tried to exercise any power to NOT sign a law properly passed by Parliament there wouldn't be a 'Constitutional Crisis', we'd just kick him/her out and get a new one.

    19. Re: serving at Her Majesty's pleasure by sd4f · · Score: 1

      We don't actually. Our anthem was changed decades ago.

  3. I love canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    i can use maple syrup for lube and no one cares. in fact, when it happens my neighbors bring tim hortons.

  4. Re:"Astronaut" by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Good point!
    Let's call them thermosnaut!

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  5. Not only that... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

    Julie Payette is a high-quality person and I applaud her transparency. ;)

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    1. Re:Not only that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I applaud her transparency

      Me too. I love staring at her ovaries.

    2. Re:Not only that... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      Pretty nice looking Canadienne, VERY well preserved for 53 years old...

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    3. Re:Not only that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be applauding the *fact* that she was allowed into space via the benevolence of all of the MEN working at NASA.

      Don't get me started on the fucked up Avro Arrow or the supposed contributions to the space shuttle's arm.,, lame..

    4. Re:Not only that... by x0ra · · Score: 0

      do you mean Turdeau's transparency record in restoring public vote for unions, and no longer requiring first nation band leader to disclose their income ?

    5. Re:Not only that... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Back to work Donald.

  6. Re:"Astronaut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good point, only the President of Mars deserves to be called an Astronaut, because he's been to another planet. He also won with 200% of the vote, since he named himself twice, as he was following the Electoral College rules in their original form.

  7. Re:"Astronaut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Used to be space held promise. Then reality kicked in like a bronco at the rodeo. Space is a dead end for people. It's only good for satellites, and sending boxes with wheels, or boxes with cameras to or around other planets.

    There is no future in space. It's dead, finished.

    "Astronaut" is a ceremonial job, like historical re-enactments. They are passengers, cargo, on a pre-determined script. They're just really dedicated roller coaster enthusiasts.

  8. Not the head of state. by MarkRose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Queen Elizabeth II is the head of state, not her Governor General

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    1. Re:Not the head of state. by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Informative

      I stretched a bit, yes. The GG is the Queen's vice regal representative, so is an acting head of state, except when the Queen is in residence in Canada.

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    2. Re:Not the head of state. by Strider- · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Governor General is the viceregal in absentia. The person who holds this role is the head of state, unless the monarch is actually present.

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    3. Re: Not the head of state. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Methinks perhaps the Americans might understand it better if you just told them the governor general is also the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces.

      Of course, that would hurt precious male egos, as we know how well they respond to any woman with power who isn't their mom. :)

    4. Re:Not the head of state. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Is is really necessary to have an "acting head of state" just because the queen isn't in the country? It's not 1867 anymore. The Queen can easily be reached by telephone, email, or many other electronic means if she is needed. She could even fly and be here in a matter of hours if she needed to be. It's closer from Canada to London (Gander NL to London - 3800 KM) than it is from one end of Canada to the other (Gander NL to Vancouver, 4813 KM).

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    5. Re:Not the head of state. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many western governments have these kinds of things which are really just relics and traditions of the past. No it's not necessary, but old people like to hold on to the past. Hell, just look at Parliament's Sergeant-at-arms - there's nothing practical about this guy's uniform.

    6. Re:Not the head of state. by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it isn't necessary, but the office is entrenched in the Constitution, and altering any aspect of the Constitution that deals with the Monarchy would require the approval of Parliament and all ten provinces, and if you know anything about Canadian history, you'll know how fraught with danger attempting to amend the Constitution is.

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  9. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [citation needed]

  10. Re:"Astronaut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    By that measure there goes Alan Shepard and Scott Carpenter. Also, by all means, please also inform the surviving family and heirs of Gus Grissom that he wasn't an astronaut after all when he was killed in the Apollo 1 fire. Also you may need to set Congress straight on that too, since they seem to have mistakenly awarded him the Congressional Space Medal of Honour.

  11. Re: InB4 the important question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU == MISOGYNISTIC ASSHOLE MOTHERFUCKER

    Fuck you and the dumbfuck lameness filter on this garbage ass site.

    FUCK YOU!

  12. Re:InB4 the important question by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    speaks six languages,

      an accomplished athlete, pianist and choral singer, A computer engineer with a commercial pilot license

    Whatever. How big are her jugs?

    Canada has... different priorities. ;)

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  13. Re:InB4 the important question by ls671 · · Score: 0

    Sorry buddy, you are too late. She used to be DD in high school when I was dating her but she had most of it surgically removed to make the space program.

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  14. Trump is a space cadet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does that count?

  15. Re:"Astronaut" by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

    Given THAT criteria, the ONLY "astronauts" who have "been outside the atmosphere" were the Apollo crews..

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  16. Re: And she's incredibly corrupt by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Then talk about it and don't simply say so. Also, does she program with QB64? Inquiring minds want to know!

  17. Re: "Astronaut" by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    That's right. Now you understand why there can't be any actual science fiction again for awhile. Everything is just too solvable.

  18. Not completely cerimonial by FeelGood314 · · Score: 2

    The Queens representative in our western most province just made a decision on who should be able to form the government there. There was also the case a few years back where our minister of defense admitted to a war crime* in the in the house of commons and the prime minister asked the Governor General to prorogued parliament so that the senate inquiry into his actions would die (er so we could watch the winter Olympics, I think was the prime ministers excuse). I think the Governor General got that one wrong but at least we have a mechanism to solve parliamentary issues that only takes a single day. Having the government paralyzed for weeks waiting for a decision is worse.

    *Canadian soldiers had handed over prisoners of war to American and Afghan forces without getting guarantees that they would not be miss treated. It' not just that they were subsequently mistreated it's the fact that we didn't take reasonable steps to ensure they were not that is a crime.

    1. Re:Not completely cerimonial by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The 2008 prorogation wasnt the first time a Canadian GG granted such a request. Sir John A MacDonald requested and was granted a prorogation to evade censure over The Pacific Scandal.

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    2. Re:Not completely cerimonial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both Conservatives too! Ha!

  19. Not the only government astronaut, either... by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Informative

    My congratulations to Julie Payette on her appointment to her new post. Bear in mind she isn't the first Canadian astronaut to assume a role as a senior government official, either.

    Since 2015, former astronaut Marc Garneau has served as the federal Minister of Transportation--which seems just a little bit on the nose.

    (That compares rather favorably, incidentally, to the 1995 appointment of Al Palladini - a used-car salesman - to serve as Ontario's Minister of Transportation...)

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    1. Re:Not the only government astronaut, either... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My congratulations to Julie Payette on her appointment to her new post. Bear in mind she isn't the first Canadian astronaut to assume a role as a senior government official, either.

      Since 2015, former astronaut Marc Garneau has served as the federal Minister of Transportation--which seems just a little bit on the nose.

      (That compares rather favorably, incidentally, to the 1995 appointment of Al Palladini - a used-car salesman - to serve as Ontario's Minister of Transportation...)

      You do realize that the position of Governor General is largely symbolic whereas a Cabinet Minister can do a lot more good/harm if he/she's competent/incompetent.

  20. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She was director at the National Bank of Canada.

  21. Well may we say God Save the Queen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well may we say God Save the Queen (pause) because nothing will save the Governor-General...

    Anyone from a constitutional monarchy with QE2 knows damn well that her Majesty's representativies, the governors general, are not the Heads Of State.

    Really. What has happened to Slashdot??

    1. Re:Well may we say God Save the Queen by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      Really. What has happened to Slashdot??

      Nothing. It always was a cesspool of belligerent ignorance.

      Well may we say God Save the Queen (pause) because nothing will save the Governor-General...

      Gough got that wrong too - Kerr continued on as G-G for another 2 years...

      As for Kerr, despite the foaming-at-the-mouth hatred Labor has carried against him for the last 40-odd years, everything that's come out since points to him doing the only thing feasible at the time - putting the question of government to the people by dismissing the government & causing an election to be called. If he made one mistake, it was not being completely open with Whitlam that he'd already come to an agreement with Fraser (and even that's disputed).

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  22. Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Snufu · · Score: 0

    What exceptional talents or skills merit this adoration? They are ballast strapped to a seat in a rocket. If we are celebrating their "bravery" then shouldn't we instead honor the bravery of the first ones to go into space and prove it was safe: the dogs and monkeys with "the right stuff"?

    Obviously the real accomplishment is due to the engineers who made it happen and sweated out every detail in design and test and every second in mission control. These people remain largely unknown. Instead society rewards busy body attention seekers who contribute little or nothing to the mission. This government sinecure sounds like a perfect fit for an astronaut: an important sounding administrative title and the chance to bask in the glory of other people's work.

    Disclaimer: The preceding rant excludes astronauts with real science and engineering pedigrees who contribute real science and engineering work during and after their time in the space can.

    1. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the credentials of any astronaut. Aside from that school teacher they blew up, astronauts are way above average. You're a loony. We should put you on a rocket. Then send you to the far side of the moon.

    2. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disclaimer: The preceding rant excludes astronauts with real science and engineering pedigrees who contribute real science and engineering work during and after their time in the space can.

      So pretty much all of them then. Check the CV of the people who fly in the these missions. they are almost exclusively highly accomplished engineers.

    3. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      What exceptional talents or skills merit this adoration?

      She has her own helmet.

    4. Re: Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quarterback get all the rightly deserved adoration while nerds get brown swirlies. This is the way of the world and we like it just as it is. So shut up, nerd, before we use your face as toilet paper.

    5. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is she above the average? She became astronaut only because at the time they needed someone from the province of Quebec in the crew and a female as well. All other already chosen candidates were males from outside the province of Quebec and the HQ of the Canadian Space Agency was to be build in St-Hubert, Quebec. There was a strong political bias in her nomination. There was much more qualified candidates in the pool the Canadian Space Agency choose from. She was having a Master degree while everyone else in the last round was having a PhD. And something you shouldn't neglect, a very near friend of her father was at the time the head of the Canadian Space Agency.

    6. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's an engineer. She has a commercial pilot license. She's an accomplished musician and signer. She's a triathlete. She speaks six langages.

      Did you know that the majority of french canadians, both in Quebec and in the rest of Canada, are at least bilingual ?

      How many of you french-hating anglos speak any other language besides english ?

    7. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by x0ra · · Score: 1

      1) she's an engineer... well at most for 4 years between 1986 and 1990. So yeah, she can legally sign drawings, but I wouldn't let her design a bridge
      2) commercial pilot licence: yet, she has never been flying a commercial plane with paying customers. This is more of a check list item than anything else
      3) She's an accomplished musician and signer... show me a publicly available recording and I'll judge...
      4) She speaks six langages... bullshit, she speaks french and english and "some" Spanish, German, Italian and Russian 5) She's a triathlete... I see no mention of this

      At this point, this resume look more of an embodiment of the Stakhanovite movement than anything else, really...

    8. Re:Why do we celebrate astronauts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I am the poster you are replying to and it happens I am actually born and raised in Quebec. I can also tell you I personally know Julie Payette since I was hired to replace her when she quits IBM to complete her master degree at University of Toronto. I worked with her for two weeks and took over her job. How did you come to the conclusion I am a French-hating anglo? My mother tongue is French and my English is actually bad.

      Do you know getting a commercial pilot license is just part of the training to be an astronaut? Many people can actually get such a license, the reason most people don't is just because it's really expensive and useless for almost everyone. How many thousands of triathlete is there in Quebec alone? Probably ten of thousands.

  23. Re:"Astronaut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not strictly true even there. Apollo 7, the first (successful) Manned Apollo Mission, was LEO. Apollo 9 was LEO as well.
    Apollo 8 was the first time Man went actually "outside the atmosphere" and circled the Moon.
    So of the 17 Apollo Missions, 12 Astronauts of 6 Missions walked on the Moon and 27 Astronauts of 9 Missions circled it. Note that there are overlaps here and with with the 2 LEO Apollo Missions as well.
    So a total of 24 Astronauts have gone beyond LEO.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

    Of those 24, Schmitt and Swigert won seats in Congress as Republicans, but Swigert died before taking office.

  24. That's so impressive by waynemcdougall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Former astronaut Julie Payette will be the Queen's new representative in Canada, CBC News has confirmed.
    Wow. An astronaut

    > The 53-year-old Montrealer, who speaks six languages,

    Six? She has some smarts on top of the astronaut

    > Payette, who is also an accomplished athlete, pianist and choral singer

    What? No. Now this isn't fair. I guess, if I work a bit harder I could...ok, a LOT harder, I could,....

    > A computer engineer with a commercial pilot license,

    No. No no no no no.

    She makes me look like I didn't even try at life.

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    1. Re:That's so impressive by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2

      I wonder if she actually speak fluently six languages or if she just sing opera in six languages.

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    2. Re:That's so impressive by rbrander · · Score: 1

      Did you actually put the word "just" in front of "sing opera in six languages" ??

    3. Re:That's so impressive by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Either way, it's way more than I've ever accomplished, and probably more than you've accomplished, too.

    4. Re:That's so impressive by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      A computer engineer with a commercial pilot license,

      No. No no no no no.

      She makes me look like I didn't even try at life.

      It's the outgoing Governor General who is the computer engineer with a commercial pilot license, not the astronaut.

      You may or may not have tried very hard at life, but you sure don't try hard at reading comprehension.

    5. Re:That's so impressive by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      It's the outgoing Governor General who is the computer engineer with a commercial pilot license, not the astronaut.

      FTFA: A computer engineer with a commercial pilot licence, Payette was picked from among 5,330 applicants in 1992 to be one of four new astronauts with the Canadian Space Agency (CSA).

      You may or may not have tried very hard at life, but you sure don't try hard at reading comprehension.

    6. Re:That's so impressive by x0ra · · Score: 1

      Computer engineer ? Come on, she held a system engineer position for 2 years 30 years ago...

    7. Re:That's so impressive by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Pretty stupid comment. Like speaking different languages is the only way someone may accomplished himself. A fortiori if speaking means learning a subset of already made sentences while singing. BTW, how useful is this today to speak six languages unless you are a translator?

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      Achille Talon
      Hop!
    8. Re: That's so impressive by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Ha! Fail!

  25. Re: Good, she has experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Answering yourself compulsively is a sign of encroaching autism. Seek help before you get any worse.

  26. GREAT NEWS! by CanEHdian · · Score: 2

    I, for one, welcome our new celestial Overlord^H^H^H^Hlady. Someone that isn't there as a token female, but someone that has actually done something and every Canadian can be proud to call their Governor General. Hopefully that spirit of accomplishment inclusion will remain, the opposite of an 'activist' type person that does what they do for a club they themselves are a member of.

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    When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
  27. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [citation needed]

  28. Re:Good, she has experience by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    Spot on. As a friend of mine said after the news of her nomination came out.

    "She spent most of her life time trying to convince us astronauts are useful. She will be perfect as governor general."

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    Achille Talon
    Hop!
  29. Re: Good, she has experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't understand that I was replying to the person modding me down, you're past "encroaching" autism, you've reached Asperger Heaven.

    It's obvious from context alone.

  30. hope the fucking queen is paying her privately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck the fucking queen if we are paying this from taxes.

    fucking rediculous, if she wants a representative she should fucking pay for it...

  31. Fitting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since Trudeau is a space cadet.

  32. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good thing that the G-G in Canada basically is a figurehead and doesn't have much power.

  33. "I defy anyone else to find a head of state who... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ""I defy anyone else to find a head of state who is an astronaut!"

    probably already been said, but Trump's a fucking space cadet if ever there was one.

  34. Separating out "Head of State" is a better system by rbrander · · Score: 0

    It's always funny to read Americans stumbling over a parliamentary system description and thinking it overcomplicated and bizarre (and that QE2 is still, really, in charge).

    There's a reason your system hasn't caught on anywhere in 230 years; a reason nearly everwhere else is some sort of parliament.

    Yours makes your elected Head-of-State an elected King by our lights; Commander-in-Chief and repository of all national glory and honour. I wouldn't use the word "Warlord" but I note that the terrorist-fighting action-hero of "Air Force One" was named "President James Marshall". (Distributing Martial Law to the evil-doers, clearly).

    It makes your Presidents want to look more Presidential by hitting people. Except with bombs.

    By moving all the colourful honours and glory and ceremony related to the *nation* onto a ceremonial queen, we deprive our politicians of wrapping themselves in the national symbols to puff themselves up; by moving the commander-in-chief role away from the Prime Minister, we take away much of his action-figure status; most PMs can't get a military adventure going without the approval of at least several members of his cabinet, who are also (unlike your system) legitimate replacements for him that could be doing his job tomorrow if that cabinet thinks the PM has lost it.

    It's too late for you guys to switch to Parliamentary, but we sure do thank you for highlighting its virtues for us with your brave experiment. Your written Constitution, alas, protected no torture victims, nor did all your three-sided checks and balances.

    And then the most recent Presidential situation! My god, how we pity you. A massive systemic failure. We'll keep our system, which you are welcome to make all the fun of that you want. We don't need to make fun of the system that elected a leader who spoke of "Prime Minister Shinzo" and "Two Corinthians". Some jokes can't be improved upon.

  35. Re:"Astronaut" by himay · · Score: 1

    I'm not here to disparage the person's achievements.

    I'm here to be sad about the term "astronaut" being watered down to include people who haven't even left the atmosphere. The ISS is only 400 km up, still well within the thermosphere.

    We used to send people to space!

    "Watered down?" Since when? Are you familiar with the Kármán Line? Not to mention any alternative definitions of the lower boundary of space are well below 200km (above sea level). I think you're just imposing your own personal opinion onto what qualifies as "space," as opposed to what the aeronautics/astronautics societies have established as "space."

  36. Canada a meritocracy? by LesserWeevil · · Score: 1

    Maybe the US of A could stop electing lawyers and billionaires to high office and look to engineers and scientists instead. Nah, what am I thinking - it'll never work because they typically have principles and core honesty.

  37. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. NOw, if only Canada would get away from the 'Monarch by divine right' mentality that connects this appointment to the King/Queen of England this position wouldn't even be needed. If Canadian's below a 'world ambassador' is a nice thing to have (from a 'marketing' perspective) than fine & dandy. But paying someone significant dollars & providing a budget that is significant (in the Millions) whose only 'legal' job is to pro-forma sign laws passed by Parliament as the 'representation of the Monarch of England' is just a waste of money.

  38. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look on wikipedia, the citation is there.

    Not sure why being a director, which is a part time 'job' for only a small stipend, makes her corrupt.

  39. Re:And she's incredibly corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The nation needs a head of state, all nations do. Take the 'titular'[ head of state away, and you then need to create a president position.

    There's more to the job than what you describe however.

  40. Your Ignorance Is Showing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Head Of State is a symbolic position only, it signifies the Nation of Canada. Queen Elizabeth II has moral and symbolic power but cannot rule Canadians.

    All hard power flows up through elected representatives, ultimately to the Prime Minister of Canada. The Queen is not an "even higher authority figure" than the PM, she is off to the side. It is not even considered acceptable for the Queen to offer unsolicited advice. The matter is sensitive enough that even advice that was asked for, would probably be gently deflected by the Queen or her Ministers.

    This is a common mistake for Americans to make. Are you American? They get confused because the US President is both a practical administrator as well as a symbol of the nation. The unitary nature of the US system is simply different, but Americans can be forgiven for thinking every nation organizes itself this way.

    Now, the Governor General has some power, though it must be used very carefully and sparingly. All legislation that the House of Commons passes, must be signed by the GG. This is a rubber stamp process and it is almost unheard of for the GG to even mention not doing so. The GG also, when an election produces an unclear result, acts as an authority figure to get a party to become the governing party. The GG can invite a party to form a coalition government, for instance.

    Well if the GG has some power, and the GG is the Queen's Representative, does not the Queen have power too? No. The GG is appointed by the Prime Minister and owes allegiance to Canada. There is a notional idea of "honoring" the Queen, and official communications from Canada to the Queen goes through the GG as a matter of protocol. It helps to be a Monarchist, sitting as the GG. However if a conflict of loyalties were to arise, the GG must represent the interests of Canada first (I believe actual protocol would require the GG to resign as the conflict of loyalties would put the GG into an impossible situation).