US Government Crackdown Threatens Kaspersky's American Dream (reuters.com)
Eugene Kaspersky, the CEO of the Russian cybersecurity software firm that bears his name, had a big American dream. From a report: He wanted his company to go beyond selling anti-virus software to consumers and small businesses and become a major vendor to the U.S. government -- one of the world's biggest buyers of cybersecurity tools. Kaspersky set up a U.S. subsidiary, KGSS, in Arlington, Virginia that would be focused on winning that business. He sponsored flashy conferences with high-profile speakers --including Michael Flynn, who was briefly President Donald Trump's national security adviser -- sought to join U.S. trade groups and even underwrote programming on National Public Radio. All of this was done to burnish Kaspersky's image and help it become an accepted vendor for the U.S. government despite its Russian roots, according to people familiar with the strategy. But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies. Kaspersky "has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts," the company said. Kaspersky's American ambitions were further eroded by the sharp deterioration in U.S.-Russia relations following Russia's invasion of Crimea in 2014, and later when U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia had hacked the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
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But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies.
By current political standards, if Kaspersky Antivirus detects NSA malware, that's the direct meddling hand of Putin.
Good luck.
~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
You dream that you have balls?
Dammit, Poettering! Go home, you're drunk again.
The more I see these stories, the more suspicious I become of our own home-grown vendors.
The NSA or other authorities should have access under NDA to the Kaspersky source code. This is what happens when software such as MS WIndows is sold to foreign governments for use in sensitive roles.
Not gonna lie, I came a little.
Not gonna lie, I peed a little.
Dear Reuters:
Russia is alledged to have "hacked the 2016 U.S. presidential elections", and sourceless stories are not evidence.
that's what this is all about. It's easier to break and compromise the American AV products, that's why the U.S. is now scrambling to make foreign products seem insecure or to be controlled by Putin. It's sad and hilarious, but luckily you can vote with your wallets - stay away from American AV products.
Don't come crying when governments around the world start to crack down on Google, Facebook and Apple, who had been working closely with the US intelligence.
What? You said Google and Apple have never helped CIA/NSA/FBI? Of course they will say that, how can one be sure? As for FB, no one would believe anything they say anyway.
Unfortunately Kaspersky did have employee's with a history of Kremlin involvement. This is where trust is hard to find with a Russia company. Almost any large company or wealthy individual in Russia has some connection to the government. Its clearly how Russia works and while I do not fear Kaspersky as a product I would use myself. I do not see enough trust there to allow them access to protecting our most sensitive data.
Hu?
Kaspersky, the company was founded by Natalya Kaspersky and her ex husband Yevgeny Kaspersky.
No idea how that Eugene Kaspersky comes in, is that the retarded american way how to spell Russian names and it is meant to be Yevgeny == Eugene?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
More people were at the meeting with Trump jr, one of which is ex military intelligence.
Trump Jr is confirmed as lying about Jared and Manaforts pre-knowledge of the meeting, he confirmed they knew when he released the emails, confirming himself as a liar. His claims of "no useful info" have no credibility therefore.
Trump has access to all the Trump spy data, including all of this, and so he knew all of this when he was busy denying Putin's involvement and suggesting a cyber-partnership deal. He knew his son was lying when he pretended Manasfort and Jared did not know about the meeting before hand.
A client of the Russian lawyer/lobbyist had all charges dropped for money laundering in May, no explanation, just the whole case dropped. It seems like this is a reward and some service was rendered the other way.
At some point you have to realize that Trump is honest with Putin and lies to the USA. Team Trump and team USA, are not the same loyalties, and you cannot let Trump reward Putin for this attack on the US elections, the way Trump's rewarded his various backers.
Re the Kaspersky man arrested for treason just after Trump took power, was ex FSB, and fits the description of the ex FSB man used as a source in the Trump pee memos.
Trump got those memos with the names included, it's difficult to imagine any scenario where Trump didn't take revenge against those Russian CIA sources. Six days after Trump took power, people were arrested in Russia for Treason. Most like from info coming from team Trump to team Putin.
Then there's the Moscow provided encrypted back connection between Trump and Moscow that Jared asked the Russians for. If the US government doesn't have record of Trump passing the names, and those names *are* US spies, then it suggests that team Trump got their Russian secured communications channel. This needs to be looked into.
Trump has said he'll testify under oast to Senate committee and also seperately said he'd testify under oath to FBI, sure he was lying again, but it needs to be pushed.
What Scott Ritter claims/shows is that first, an National Intelligence Assessment is a lot more modest than a National Intelligence Estimate, and that what was published as a National Intelligence Assessment does not qualify as such.
It's a fraud - by selected people from the intelligence community - to push conclusions that the Intelligence Agencies would not be willing to support. Ritter also discusses a lot of other irregularities that all point in the same direction: the conclusion to blame Russia for everything was devised upfront, the rest was a matter of building a case. Just like with Iraq.
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Yes Yevgeny=Eugene
Eugene is the Standard English form of the same name, yes. BTW, I've heard him refer to himself as "Eugene" when speaking English.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
All these "personal sanctions" against individuals and corporations are nothing more than a good old bill of attainder - the hallmark of depots and tyrants everywhere. Government is supposed to rule by the enforcement of law, not by smears, allegations and witch hunts.
"has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,"
Well, there's their problem. The government wanted its global cyberespionage black, no sugar and without pernickety minions.
"has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,"
And this is why they won't win any contracts. Symantec refuses to share their source code with other governments and is at the same time one of the biggest US government contractors despite their products consistently scoring lowest detection rates.
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I must admit, I've always had a strange fascination with poo. After reading your story, I think I might have to act on the impulses I've suppressed. Off to caca land for me!
So why not get the Canadian government contract? It's not like the US is the only country with a government.
Trump crazies crawl out of the woodwork. Reuters is very well capable of maintaining standards. The statement was that US agencies determined that Russia hacked the US election. In fact US agencies publicly stated that Russia was the perpetrator of hacking the IT system of one of the two parties running in the election. I suppose you could try to assert that hacking the DNC's IT system is not hacking the election but assertion requires a strongly partisan viewpoint to even entertain. In short you are only fooling yourself.
His wife's surname would be Kasperskaya (or Kasperska in the original Polish). Grammatical genders are used for all nouns in most Slavic languages, even for surnames (I think only Yugoslavian languages are an exception, their surnames are always in the masculine form). Some of these languages, like Czech, don't even make an exception for non-Slavic surnames, resulting in (for example) Trump's wife being called "Melania Trumpova" (with an acute accent over the last a).
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
> Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hide
> that's what this is all about. It's easier to break and compromise the American AV products, that's why the U.S. is now scrambling to make foreign products seem insecure or to be controlled by Putin. It's sad and hilarious, but luckily you can vote with your wallets - stay away from American AV products.
I'd rather say, stay away from American products; on a second thought, I do it even better: I avoid products from aggressive countries, on the grounds that I don't want to finance evil ideas like "the best defense is an offense".
Until sometime ago that meant avoiding buying American. Now, I'm considering boycotting Russian, too... but I cut them some slack considering they were being cornered by NATO -- of course, there's their nature, too, openly manifest since Stalin, though Khrushchev and Gorbachev were (comparatively) nice guys. China comes at a very much lower 3rd place. They f* up in Tibet, but show wise tolerance regarding Hong Kong and Taiwan. Of course, it would be naive to suppose they don't control their software products like the Americans and the Russians.
Right now, I'd suggest Kaspersky to move their business to a neutral country, Swiss being the classical example. But they're against pretty bad guys -- which I suppose they understood since the very first moment when they created the company.
The problem is that some "bad guys" sometimes are too powerful, like governments, for instance. You need to work around planned "defenses" from such evil actors.
Stop using Windows for handling anything remotely sensitive. I fail to understand why this is considered an extreme measure when the reality is that it's simply prudent.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Well,
his (ex) wife is the woman behind that show.
He is 'only' the CEO.
How they krganized their surnames I don't know, e.g. if he took her name, and why both still have the same name.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
"Yevgeny Kaspersky"
Is that the retarded angel'o'sphere way of spelling his name using a non-Cyrillic alphabet?
Seriously, you're trying to be offended.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
"Ok, we know you're from the ocean but what ocean is it? The Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean" -- Hank Hill
More like, don't be an idiot and you wont need an AV.
Yevgeny is the official spellingg of his name in roman letters.
Eugen is not, and I forgot the retarded way how americans spell Eugen, or perhaps that is just a bad translitteration via the russian way of spelling Eugen?
Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?
No german would ever impose his german variant on your name. Why do you impose your variation (of pronounciation) on our names?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
How many votes were changed by this "Russian Hacking (tm)"? So far, these same agencies have said "0". So how is that a hack? The best you could logically come up with is "attempted hack", and that was poorly done. So saying the election was hacked requires a strongly partisan viewpoint to even entertain. In short you are only fooling yourself.
Japanese-ancestry Americans had to put up with this under Roosevelt (a democrat hero) during WW2, and Germans in WW1 (though I don't thing they were put in camps like the Japanese). Muslims in Spain after 1492, if you want historical examples. However, I would guess that similar things happened on the other sides (and Russia today), though that doesn't make it right.
I'm no fan of the current administration in Washington, they're dangerous, destructive idiots. Whatever our views, we're not allowed to make up our own facts or claim other's made up facts. The US security agencies have no evidence of a Kremlin led "hack" of US elections and even included a disclaimer in their official reports. Also, Russia did not invade Crimea. It has a large military base there. Shame on Reuters for repeating this nonsense. But then, all the corporate news agencies seem to be little more than PR & marketing agencies for the US regime.
Yes AC
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From help with Equation Group, Stuxnet
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
+1 informative, thank you. Though that sounds like Snowflakes over here would have a fit if they knew that!
Neo-liberal war-loving Clinton voters are seething in utter disbelief as Russia destroy's America's wahhabi 'ISIS' forces in Syria. Remember how the filthy zionist mainstream media, lead by Reuters and the BBC, claimed Russia wasn't fighting 'ISIS'? Of course, the average Clinton voting dribbler won't know that a few weeks back, in an amazing precision strike on two buildings, Russia killed all the significant leaders of ISIS and their UK/USA/Saudi/Israeli handlers. And to the neo-liberals disgust, Trump is going along with a real war in ISIS.
So in impotent rage, Russia is being targeted by every pro-Clinton force with influence in the USA. War on Russian companies is just part of this. Slashdot constantly demonising Russia is just part of this.
Hitlery Clinton exterminated SECULAR civilised Libya, where women and gays lived safe happy productive lives. Now Libya is a wahhabi sh-thole, where America recruits tens of thousands of new wahhabi extremists for futue Saudi Arabian wars. Yet filthy Clinton voters dare to suggest Trump is any kind of problem un comparison. Most Clinton supporters are simply braindead, which is why they are warmongers today, whereas in the 1970s they would have been anti-war. Whatever the zionist media tells them to 'think' they 'think'.
But a significant minority of Clinton supporters are vile zionist racists who, Bill Gates fashion, actively seek the murder of BILLIONS of 'useless eaters' on our planet.
So innocent Kaspersky gets caught up in the crossfire, and so will other Russian entities until the neo-liberals have their 'hot war' with Russia- and BTW Russian nuclear weapons (and delivery systems and anti missile systems and anti-satellite systems) are vastly superior and more numerous than the "every state must get a piece of the pie - mega pork corruption" American equivalents. In a hot-war which the Clinton supporters are pushing for (as with this story), much of Russia will be destroyed, but 100% of the USA will perish.
"But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies."
Aren't companies like AT&T, Verizon, Apple, Microsoft, etc, pawns of the United States spy agencies?
Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?
Is this some of that odd change the subject deflection like what Kellyanne Conway does?
Anyhow, I hear Trump is looking for a new spokesperson. Imagine the fun you can have when some gaddamned news reporter asks about collusion, and you can go off on a rant about name spelling and pronunciation.
Dunno if they pay in rubles yet though.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
To government agents, it doesn't matter that Kaspersky isn't aiding the Russian government. His company needs to be in the pocket of the US government or they will destroy it. Entities in cybersecurity that are independent of government control and manipulation are defacto considered bad. Just as bad as entities working for Russia.
Did you know Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? They determined that also..
Am I lying when I tell you that im telling the truth? Or am I telling the truth when I say that Im lying?
Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?
Because English speakers are unfamiliar with pronunciation and spelling in those languages? And it's not really relevant to the story?
During 2014, maybe, it was excusable to believe this lie.
But when, a year later, Russian TV broadcast an entire movie celebrating the invasion — and Putin's direct involvement in it — the excuse vanished. In particular, during the interview, that is part of the film, Putin says:
The cat's been out of the bag since March 2015. Your continuing to lie about it does not help Russia — it just exposes you as an asshole.
Yep, this is generally true. But it will not help you here.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
It is not cowardice to fight your enemy, quite the opposite.
Now, if we ignored Russia's aggressions — such as because they have nukes, or because we don't want to interfere with what they do to their immediate neighbors — now that would've been cowardice. Yes...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The US security agencies have no evidence of a Kremlin led "hack" of US elections
They say they do but it's classified. Those who have seen it believe it (possibly excepting Trump but he also believes he's doing a great job).
Also, Russia did not invade Crimea. It has a large military base there.
Well that's good news for Trump. He can invade Cuba, the Philippines and Germany because the US has a large military base there.
You Russians must think we're dumb. OK, we are dumb but not all of us.
The Russians didn't change any votes, but that doesn't mean they didn't influence the election. Trump's dirty laundry wasn't aired the same way Clinton's was. I guarantee you that many people changed their vote based on what the DNC did to Sanders.
And no, I'm not partisan. I have a strong dislike of both candidates. I'm not even sure we're worse off with Trump.
There was the big difference that they were under extreme pressure to do so from the Bush administration.
Yes, because softwares don't have zero days and don't have perpetual vulnerabilities.
How many drive-by's have you heard on the news which doesn't require user interaction? Zero?
You can be the number 1 geek or numb3r 1 haX0r on the planet but the software you're using is also vulnerable to zero
days and you can get infected even by doing nothing.
"Yevgeny is the official spellingg of his name in roman letters."
No, it isn't. Who made you boss? Perhaps you should STFU, and let Eugene spell his name the way he wants in the Roman alphabet. Can't get any more "official" than that, you retarded foreigner.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
Call me contrary but what has really convinced me of a large-scale Russian state plot to influence the US election are the huge numbers of posts here (and on other social media) denying it, often with obfuscation, half-truths and straight lies.
Oscar Wilde - The Importance of Not Getting Caught
The official spelling of his name is the way he chooses to spell it.
Based on his twitter handle: e_kaspersky and the fact that he himself has verified to twitter as Eugene Kaspersky, the fact that his bio on his own company website spells it Eugene, and his official blog with the title (and I quote) "NOTES, COMMENT AND BUZZ FROM EUGENE KASPERSKY – OFFICIAL BLOG" I would suggest the only person trying to impose anything on anyone is you. Go away and leave his name alone.
the US govt is threating Kaspersky...get real or the govt will end up at mcdonalds.
And they arent under extreme pressure from the Democrats now? Funny how that argument works both ways.
You do know the republicans are in charge now right?
Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby.
Anti virus doesn't protect you from 0 days.
It protects you from known threats.
Stuuupid comment you have tere, the AC didn't claim AV can protect you from zero days. He just pointed out that being an "idiot" is not a pre-requisite for being infected. You can get infected by just doing nothing because of zero days.
Kaspersky finished the High School of KGB, which is now called the Institute of Cryptography, Communications and Computer Science (IKSI). Sure he doesn't collaborate with any government.
It is safe to assume that every, and I mean EVERY computer security company and every large computer equipment manufacturer (DELL, Samsung, Intel, LG to name a few from Snowden's list) collaborates with their government. And Russians are definitely not worse than NSA. And surely less intrusive.
This is fake news. Someone had a dream to do something and it didn't work. That's business. Nothing is a sure thing. Next year maybe he'll get the contract and some other company will lose it.
Given the shenanigans of NSA etc.. with backdoors, front doors, malware, etc., I am surprised that the USG ever allowed Kaspersky to be installed on any USG systems.
I am also surprised that most of the comments appear to have moved from the article to other tangential topics.