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US Government Crackdown Threatens Kaspersky's American Dream (reuters.com)

Eugene Kaspersky, the CEO of the Russian cybersecurity software firm that bears his name, had a big American dream. From a report: He wanted his company to go beyond selling anti-virus software to consumers and small businesses and become a major vendor to the U.S. government -- one of the world's biggest buyers of cybersecurity tools. Kaspersky set up a U.S. subsidiary, KGSS, in Arlington, Virginia that would be focused on winning that business. He sponsored flashy conferences with high-profile speakers --including Michael Flynn, who was briefly President Donald Trump's national security adviser -- sought to join U.S. trade groups and even underwrote programming on National Public Radio. All of this was done to burnish Kaspersky's image and help it become an accepted vendor for the U.S. government despite its Russian roots, according to people familiar with the strategy. But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies. Kaspersky "has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts," the company said. Kaspersky's American ambitions were further eroded by the sharp deterioration in U.S.-Russia relations following Russia's invasion of Crimea in 2014, and later when U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia had hacked the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

139 comments

  1. giant diamond in the sky festival continues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'weather' permitting.. cease fire stand down.. sing along.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAXl97-RFg ..

  2. Business climate by Empiric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies.

    By current political standards, if Kaspersky Antivirus detects NSA malware, that's the direct meddling hand of Putin.

    Good luck.

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    ~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
    1. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As much as I distrust the NSA and loathe the MSM's "Russia narrative," don't see why I should feel bad about foreigners not getting my tax dollars to perform security-sensitive work that should go to US citizens. Keep the jobs and the secrets stateside.

    2. Re: Business climate by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 0, Troll

      Exactly. Why, with Trump's nationalist rhetoric. do his supporters somehow have a sweet spot for Russians or Russian companies? I know they helped him win, but that does not mean they can be a trusted ally. These guys have historically been the bad guys, remember Rocky 4? Does the cold war ring any bells?

    3. Re: Business climate by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Not that I am in favour of Kaspersky or suggesting he is best but when it comes to security you should simply be in favour of whatever works first, misguided patriotism should take a distant second.

    4. Re: Business climate by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you now seriously using a movie as your argument?
      This is how propaganda works.

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      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    5. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fuck the cold war. Fuck the movies. What I care about is keeping jobs in America. Goverment should only contract to real domestic companies, not shell corps for foreigners.

    6. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not? Russia still sucks dick. I'd rather cozy to the 8 countries that are better than Russia. Brazil?

    7. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Remember when the US empire collapsed, and US gangsters moved in with Russia's blessing and bought up US assets for pennies on the dollar - despite Russian assurances that they wouldn't fuck the US over for coming back into the international fold? Remember when the Russians promised that they wouldn't expand their military bases and missile shields right up US borders, and then installed bases in Canada and Mexico?

      Oh, right. That didn't happen. It was in fact the total opposite of what occurred.

      You think Russians have short memories, my friend. Russia has been around a lot longer than the US, and has fought far worse enemies on their own soil at a tremendous cost that the US even lacks a context to compare with. Not only are they a far tougher breed of people, it's easy to forget they put the first satellite in space. The first human in space. They play chess while the US plays checkers. They have Putin, while the US has a buffoon at best, and a puppet at worst.

      They don't need to watch movies. They know exactly what it takes to play with the most mendacious power on Earth. A weakened US isn't good for the geopolitical balance, but I can't fault them for wanting some serious payback. Never forget that Putin is a product of the times of this humiliation when Russia was on its knees. Turnabout is fair play, they say, but fracturing the US domestically - look at the level of hate in this country right now - seems like soft power at its most nefarious.

    8. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia isnt shit, in the scheme of things. They can sure pretend though.

    9. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those countries can't exterminate every human being on the mainland US.
      Russia can.

    10. Re: Business climate by Uberbah · · Score: 2

      do his supporters somehow have a sweet spot for Russians or Russian companies?

      Why did Americans turn into McCarthyist, bedwetting cowards when the USSR has been gone for over 25 years?

    11. Re: Business climate by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Since the Russians started invading and occupying countries again

    12. Re:Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No hyperbole is needed here. Both from you or Reuters. Florid writing in Reuters doesn't really convey what most reasonable people already know.

      Placing your national security in the hands of a foreign power, especially a foreign power that has repeatedly and consistently demonstrated hostility towards you, is such a bad idea that anyone who would even ask us to seriously entertain such a notion is suspect.

      Really. It doesn't matter what the name of the country. It's just an incredibly ridiculous idea. Any such attempt by any company owned by foreigners instantly tags itself as an espionage attempt.

      Just how stupid can people be.

    13. Re: Business climate by Zemran · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be better if the work went to the best suited? We are all foreigners so the xenophobic crap is just that. If we have to justify this with lies about Russia invading Crimea then I would rather have someone I can trust than someone who the liars trust.

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      I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
    14. Re: Business climate by Zemran · · Score: 1, Troll

      Propaganda works by citing a Russian invasion of Crimea that never happened and an election hack that never happened either. Lie to people often enough and they eventually believe it. Just as people now believe that Taiwan is a breakaway part of China even though it was part of Japan. They hear the lie for long enough and it seems true.

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      I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
    15. Re: Business climate by TimothyHollins · · Score: 0

      Just out of curiosity, how much do you get paid to spout these lies?

      How many rubles does Uncle Putin hand you? Or do you get paid directly in bread and vodka?
      Doesn't it bother you that your daily work consists of making the world a worse place?

    16. Re: Business climate by TimothyHollins · · Score: 0

      lies about Russia invading Crimea

      Haha, paid shill.

    17. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I marked him Troll, but I think the comment will do better illustrating the troll. If you go through their post history, you can see this person is clearly a proud russian, and everything said bad about Russia or good about the US is "lies" and "propaganda"

    18. Re: Business climate by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      How do you get Taiwan is a part of Japan? If anything, mainland china is a breakaway part of Taiwan (ROC). Read your history about Mao sometime. (I'm not going into ancient history here. If you do that you can come up with Okinawa is really Chinese, and Russia is really part of Ukraine, depending on the viewpoints).

    19. Re: Business climate by TimothyHollins · · Score: 0

      Don't worry about it. It was only added so people won't focus on the part where he says "Russia invaded Crimea is a lie".

    20. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt he's being paid in rubles. Bitcoin, perhaps. Not that they're much better.

    21. Re: Business climate by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Propaganda works by citing a Russian invasion of Crimea that never happened and an election hack that never happened either.

      Thank you Boris. You have served the motherland well. Collect your Rubles on the way out the door.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    22. Re: Business climate by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Just out of curiosity, how much do you get paid to spout these lies?

      How many rubles does Uncle Putin hand you? Or do you get paid directly in bread and vodka?

      Boris has had a bit of difficulty getting people to pay attention to him lately. The quality of their fake news posts has gone down. Perhaps a vacation in the eastern woods will help their postings to get better?

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    23. Re: Business climate by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      do his supporters somehow have a sweet spot for Russians or Russian companies?

      Why did Americans turn into McCarthyist, bedwetting cowards when the USSR has been gone for over 25 years?

      Who said anything about the old Soviet Union?

      Look Boris, if you are going to earn your rubles, you have to make some sense. Threats come from different sources, not just the old CCCP. It isn't like everyone loved us once your old regime fell.

      Now do better work comrade, unless you want the videos to come out. Remember that vacation on the Black Sea a few years back? We thought so, now get cracking!

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    24. Re:Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just how stupid can people be.

      Look what the americans elected...narcissism and greed care not about intellect. duh.

    25. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Crimea with a massive Russian ethnic majority and a history of wanting independence from Ukraine? Meanwhile the US has been occupying and otherwise shitting the bed in almost every ME country in existence, to generally hostile populations, for 30+ years now.

    26. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may be in their best interest to believe that lie as hard as they can. What happens to folks that break from the party line is a powerful motivator. No payment required.

    27. Re: Business climate by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Since when is invading and occupying countries a problem for Americans?

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      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    28. Re: Business climate by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      It is not news that the former mayor of London is an attention whore, but don't you think him posting on Slashdot is a little far-fetched?

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    29. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are dangerously crazy.

    30. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Never forget that Putin is a product of the times of this humiliation when Russia was on its knees"
      Putin has hurt his own people extensively.
      The Russian economy is a shambles & without fossil fuel revenues, they would have resorted to cannibalism years ago. The entire Russian government is a kleptocracy & Putin alone is believed to have hoarded over $100 billion dollars.

    31. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at this fucking retard. Everybody who has enough common sense to see through the Democrats' lies is now an official Russian traitor being paid directly by Putin. Have none of you ignorant shitheads ever read a history book about the 1950s?

    32. Re: Business climate by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      It is when someone else does it

    33. Re: Business climate by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Unlike you I'm not making excuses for either side. Neither the US or Russia have the right to invade sovereign nations.

    34. Re: Business climate by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Also not a problem. When a NATO member invaded another country and basically annexed half of it, what did the Americans do? Three years of arms embargo, that's it.
      What did they do when another NATO member abducted, tortured and murdered a head of an African country? Happily helped to do it and orchestrated a coup in that African country that resulted in a decade-long oppressive dictatorship.

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      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    35. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Russians have a large nuclear arsenal that is held in check by the US nuclear arsenal. Other than that the Russians are barely above 3rd world country status. California has a higher GDP than Russia. They lack the two most important characteristics that define a super power. Global economic power and the ability to project significant military power any where in the world. The conventional Russian military is a paper tiger. If they are not careful they could end up as a Chinese client state if the US decides to tank the global price of oil just to bankrupt Russia and any other country that depends on oil exports to survive.

      And do you know the predicament Putin has gotten Russia into? He is in a military standoff with the Ukraine and cannot remove any of his forces now camped out on the Ukraine-Russian border because the minute that happens the Ukrainian freedom fighters they are protecting will be destroyed. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is because Russia is providing money, weapons, intelligence, and artillery support. The sanctions leveled against Russia because of their propensity of invading their neighbors are also really starting to hurt an already weakened Russian economy. Russia is throwing money down the drain with this little Putin adventure. He is throwing even more money down the black hole in Syria. Before Obama left office he was able to successfully maneuver the Russians into two armed conflicts that so far has not gained Russia a single thing. The US has been launching cruise missiles at Russia's Syrian allies and the Russians could do nothing. The US shots down a Syrian jet and Russia once again does nothing. Hell, Turkey shot down a Russian jet and the Russians did nothing except ban it's citizens from taking vacations in Turkey but everything is back to normal now. The US shots down every Syrian drone that gets close to a US base and the Russians do nothing. Russia must be using a different definition of the word "ally". The US ejects 35 Russian diplomats from the country and seizes tow really nice Russian vacation properties and Russia does nothing. And now the US can control the price of oil just by turning on or turning off the shale oil extraction wells. Wonder how the Russian government continue to operate with oil sitting at $20 barrel. This would also have some serious consequences for every enemy country who depend on oil revenue to survive.

      Maybe all the Trump-Russian contacts have been about Trump's efforts to buy Russia and build a lot of really big gold courses and casinos? Someone probably told Trump that Russia sold the entire state of Alaska to the US for 7 million and Trump thinks the Russians must be really shitty negotiators. When the USSR failed the state held a fire sale to liquidate any state asset not permanently affixed to the ground and capable of being moved. Some of the money raised was used to pay off the military leadership for not interfering with the USSR fall. After all the old government only had power if the military supported them. Pay off the military and instant regime change.

    36. Re: Business climate by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      You mean Crimea which had a majority population of Tatars before Stalin shipped them off in train cars to move in Russian loyalists?

      Stop with the nationalist bullshit. Ethnicity is becoming irrelevant, people should not be going to wars over something so trivial. If Russians are living in Ukraine, then so what? Let them learn to speak Ukrainian, the Russians are the newcomers after all. Why emulate Hitler in deciding that it's ok to invade a country just because some of the people there speak the same language you do?

      The soviet union has disbanded. Stop trying to rebuild it by replacing the apparatchiks with organized crime syndicates.

    37. Re: Business climate by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And this is the biggest reason to complain or protest when the US goes to war, rather than start waving the flags of patriotism. When the US invaded countries on the guise of stopping terrorism it sent a strong signal to authoritarian nations that they could crack down on their dissidents by claiming it was terrorism. The the weak minded step forward and say "if the US can do it, why can't our country do it?"

    38. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They dont. Its just that Kaspersky is much much much better anit-virus software than the rest. That's why people do buy it.

    39. Re: Business climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Chegis Khan was the TCAR before everyone, so he deserves to own whole Asia.
      And lets not forget about Alexander Macedonski, lol.

    40. Re: Business climate by Zemran · · Score: 1

      It is called history. Taiwan was (note: "was" is past tense which I used and "is" is present tense which you used) part of Japan prior to WWII.

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      I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
    41. Re: Business climate by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      That was sarcasm but clearly too subtle for you

  3. Re:You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You dream that you have balls?

  4. Re:FOr all my friends browsing at -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dammit, Poettering! Go home, you're drunk again.

  5. Political Play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more I see these stories, the more suspicious I become of our own home-grown vendors.

  6. Simple solution by gantry · · Score: 1

    The NSA or other authorities should have access under NDA to the Kaspersky source code. This is what happens when software such as MS WIndows is sold to foreign governments for use in sensitive roles.

    1. Re:Simple solution by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      AFAIK that's what Kaspersky offered.

    2. Re:Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need NDA to see the source code of Kaspersky. Last 2012, the whole source code of Kaspersky Anti-Virus already leaked online for free via torrent. Torrent sites are good usually, you get free stuff from there like almost all Linux Distro too.

  7. Re: FOr all my friends browsing at -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not gonna lie, I came a little.

  8. Re: For all my friends browsing at -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not gonna lie, I peed a little.

  9. Re:You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dear Reuters:
    Russia is alledged to have "hacked the 2016 U.S. presidential elections", and sourceless stories are not evidence.

  10. Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    that's what this is all about. It's easier to break and compromise the American AV products, that's why the U.S. is now scrambling to make foreign products seem insecure or to be controlled by Putin. It's sad and hilarious, but luckily you can vote with your wallets - stay away from American AV products.

  11. What's good for the goose... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't come crying when governments around the world start to crack down on Google, Facebook and Apple, who had been working closely with the US intelligence.

    What? You said Google and Apple have never helped CIA/NSA/FBI? Of course they will say that, how can one be sure? As for FB, no one would believe anything they say anyway.

    1. Re: What's good for the goose... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are an idiot to trust the software vendors from a foreign power if you are involved in national security work or billion dollar technology.

      I say this as an American. It also applies to webmail on the low end and hardware/firmware in the high end. You have less choice in the latter, but you are a fool to "trust" any vendor you can't personally execute with impunity. Use, work with, tolerate sure. Trust, never.

    2. Re:What's good for the goose... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Don't come crying when governments around the world start to crack down on Google, Facebook and Apple, who had been working closely with the US intelligence.

      Speaking as an American, go for it governments. We all have due diligence as citizens of our various nations to keep a check on the globalist corporations.

      It can form a pretty nice 'checks and balance' situation, if national governments actively scrutinize software vendors located outside their borders.

    3. Re: What's good for the goose... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I'm an idiot to trust software vendors to not serve their government. In my opinion, the government I'm in the greatest personal danger from is the US government, since I live here. and therefore there's a certain attraction to purchasing security software from a Russian company. I wouldn't recommend it for the US Government, though.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  12. Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately Kaspersky did have employee's with a history of Kremlin involvement. This is where trust is hard to find with a Russia company. Almost any large company or wealthy individual in Russia has some connection to the government. Its clearly how Russia works and while I do not fear Kaspersky as a product I would use myself. I do not see enough trust there to allow them access to protecting our most sensitive data.

    1. Re:Kaspersky by Highdude702 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, you're saying that Russia is exactly like the United States? Because in almost ANY company in the USA you can find ex military personell(which is what a lot of people who claim "employee's with a history of Kremlin involvement" mean) Does that mean that nobody around the world should hire anybody from the states?

    2. Re:Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean that nobody around the world should hire anybody from the states?

      Of course not. Adversaries would likely avoid it, however.

    3. Re:Kaspersky by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Adversaries would likely avoid it, however.

      So I repeat. Does that mean that nobody around the world should hire anybody from the states?

    4. Re: Kaspersky by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Don't be obtuse. US Military experience is an asset. Perhaps not for non-US governments, but plenty of organizations need former US military for private security.

    5. Re: Kaspersky by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Exactly my point. You can't claim somebody is a government spy just because of being a member of the military of that country. I'm not saying it's not possible but with the number of people here on slashdot that use "Russia" when they're grasping for straws it should be thrown out of the window until there is some sort of proof.

  13. "cybersecurity software firm that bears his name" by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    Hu?

    Kaspersky, the company was founded by Natalya Kaspersky and her ex husband Yevgeny Kaspersky.

    No idea how that Eugene Kaspersky comes in, is that the retarded american way how to spell Russian names and it is meant to be Yevgeny == Eugene?

    --
    Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  14. In relatard news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More people were at the meeting with Trump jr, one of which is ex military intelligence.

    Trump Jr is confirmed as lying about Jared and Manaforts pre-knowledge of the meeting, he confirmed they knew when he released the emails, confirming himself as a liar. His claims of "no useful info" have no credibility therefore.

    Trump has access to all the Trump spy data, including all of this, and so he knew all of this when he was busy denying Putin's involvement and suggesting a cyber-partnership deal. He knew his son was lying when he pretended Manasfort and Jared did not know about the meeting before hand.

    A client of the Russian lawyer/lobbyist had all charges dropped for money laundering in May, no explanation, just the whole case dropped. It seems like this is a reward and some service was rendered the other way.

    At some point you have to realize that Trump is honest with Putin and lies to the USA. Team Trump and team USA, are not the same loyalties, and you cannot let Trump reward Putin for this attack on the US elections, the way Trump's rewarded his various backers.

    Re the Kaspersky man arrested for treason just after Trump took power, was ex FSB, and fits the description of the ex FSB man used as a source in the Trump pee memos.
    Trump got those memos with the names included, it's difficult to imagine any scenario where Trump didn't take revenge against those Russian CIA sources. Six days after Trump took power, people were arrested in Russia for Treason. Most like from info coming from team Trump to team Putin.

    Then there's the Moscow provided encrypted back connection between Trump and Moscow that Jared asked the Russians for. If the US government doesn't have record of Trump passing the names, and those names *are* US spies, then it suggests that team Trump got their Russian secured communications channel. This needs to be looked into.

    Trump has said he'll testify under oast to Senate committee and also seperately said he'd testify under oath to FBI, sure he was lying again, but it needs to be pushed.

  15. US Intelligence Agencies concluded nothing by tinkerton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What Scott Ritter claims/shows is that first, an National Intelligence Assessment is a lot more modest than a National Intelligence Estimate, and that what was published as a National Intelligence Assessment does not qualify as such.
    It's a fraud - by selected people from the intelligence community - to push conclusions that the Intelligence Agencies would not be willing to support. Ritter also discusses a lot of other irregularities that all point in the same direction: the conclusion to blame Russia for everything was devised upfront, the rest was a matter of building a case. Just like with Iraq.

    http://www.theamericanconserva...

    1. Re:US Intelligence Agencies concluded nothing by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      Please sir, This is slashdot. We can not tolerate your use of Facts and Common Sense on a Russia bashing thread. Please mod yourself to -6 "Russian Paid Shill" O.o

    2. Re:US Intelligence Agencies concluded nothing by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Well I may be a bit pessimistic about the level of comments but I never had a lot reasons to complain about being modded down.

    3. Re:US Intelligence Agencies concluded nothing by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      How does "claims" turn into "shows"?

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    4. Re:US Intelligence Agencies concluded nothing by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Not 'turns into' , more 'and/or' Because you can always dispute his proof.

  16. Re: "cybersecurity software firm that bears his na by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    Yes Yevgeny=Eugene

  17. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Eugene is the Standard English form of the same name, yes. BTW, I've heard him refer to himself as "Eugene" when speaking English.

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  18. They found another way around the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All these "personal sanctions" against individuals and corporations are nothing more than a good old bill of attainder - the hallmark of depots and tyrants everywhere. Government is supposed to rule by the enforcement of law, not by smears, allegations and witch hunts.

    1. Re:They found another way around the law by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      All these "personal sanctions" against individuals and corporations are nothing more than a good old bill of attainder - the hallmark of depots and tyrants everywhere. Government is supposed to rule by the enforcement of law, not by smears, allegations and witch hunts.

      All true. But just try to talk about reducing the size & scope of the US Federal government here, and many of the same posters bemoaning the US government's overreach, power-grabbing, Amendment-violating ways will turn around and defend giving the government more power and tell you to move to Somalia if you want "anarchy", as if reducing the power and size of one of the largest and most powerful & invasive bureaucracies on the planet is the same as total anarchy.

      A government large & powerful enough to give you all you need is large & powerful enough to take everything you have, including your wealth, your freedom, and your life and the lives of those you love, and eventually & inevitably will, as history has proven again and again. It's human nature.

      Strat

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      Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
    2. Re:They found another way around the law by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It's good to find somebody on here who likely agrees that the government should be weak enough that we can drown it in the bathtub.

      Without us needing to drown it, of course. We're all adults, and when a bunch of adults are in a room and there's a baby present, it's not the normal thing for one or more of them to drown said baby. In fact, all the rest of the adults would put a stop to it.

      That's how the phrase is meant.

  19. help the government with its cyberespionage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,"

    Well, there's their problem. The government wanted its global cyberespionage black, no sugar and without pernickety minions.

  20. This is why they don't get the contract by guruevi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,"
    And this is why they won't win any contracts. Symantec refuses to share their source code with other governments and is at the same time one of the biggest US government contractors despite their products consistently scoring lowest detection rates.

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  21. Re:FOr all my friends browsing at -1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must admit, I've always had a strange fascination with poo. After reading your story, I think I might have to act on the impulses I've suppressed. Off to caca land for me!

  22. Oh Canada. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So why not get the Canadian government contract? It's not like the US is the only country with a government.

  23. Re:You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Trump crazies crawl out of the woodwork. Reuters is very well capable of maintaining standards. The statement was that US agencies determined that Russia hacked the US election. In fact US agencies publicly stated that Russia was the perpetrator of hacking the IT system of one of the two parties running in the election. I suppose you could try to assert that hacking the DNC's IT system is not hacking the election but assertion requires a strongly partisan viewpoint to even entertain. In short you are only fooling yourself.

  24. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by dunkelfalke · · Score: 5, Informative

    His wife's surname would be Kasperskaya (or Kasperska in the original Polish). Grammatical genders are used for all nouns in most Slavic languages, even for surnames (I think only Yugoslavian languages are an exception, their surnames are always in the masculine form). Some of these languages, like Czech, don't even make an exception for non-Slavic surnames, resulting in (for example) Trump's wife being called "Melania Trumpova" (with an acute accent over the last a).

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  25. Re:Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


    > Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hide
    > that's what this is all about. It's easier to break and compromise the American AV products, that's why the U.S. is now scrambling to make foreign products seem insecure or to be controlled by Putin. It's sad and hilarious, but luckily you can vote with your wallets - stay away from American AV products.

    I'd rather say, stay away from American products; on a second thought, I do it even better: I avoid products from aggressive countries, on the grounds that I don't want to finance evil ideas like "the best defense is an offense".

    Until sometime ago that meant avoiding buying American. Now, I'm considering boycotting Russian, too... but I cut them some slack considering they were being cornered by NATO -- of course, there's their nature, too, openly manifest since Stalin, though Khrushchev and Gorbachev were (comparatively) nice guys. China comes at a very much lower 3rd place. They f* up in Tibet, but show wise tolerance regarding Hong Kong and Taiwan. Of course, it would be naive to suppose they don't control their software products like the Americans and the Russians.

    Right now, I'd suggest Kaspersky to move their business to a neutral country, Swiss being the classical example. But they're against pretty bad guys -- which I suppose they understood since the very first moment when they created the company.

    The problem is that some "bad guys" sometimes are too powerful, like governments, for instance. You need to work around planned "defenses" from such evil actors.

  26. Obvious solution: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    Stop using Windows for handling anything remotely sensitive. I fail to understand why this is considered an extreme measure when the reality is that it's simply prudent.

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    1. Re:Obvious solution: by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Doesn't happen a lot when I read your posts. But you will have someone chime in with "Linux is insecure too! (cite exploit that was fixed within days of discovery)" Linux/Unix may not be 100% secure, but its a hell of a lot more secure than anything Microsoft makes..

    2. Re:Obvious solution: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      I believe the key is to not write as if Linux is a perfect solution but rather merely a better solution and then to defend it in such a manner without involving ego.

      Then again, maybe trolls just don't like me enough to even bother. :'(

      :P

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    3. Re:Obvious solution: by yuvcifjt · · Score: 1

      It's a widely propagated myth by Linux evangelists, but in fact, all stats show that Linux kernel is far more vulnerable and unsecure as compared to Windows, including various Windows components/services (but excluding software like Internet Exploder). If you include software (such as IE) which is hardly used, then sure, Windows might come to more vulnerabilities.

      And what's more, Microsoft patch vulnerabilities far faster (within a couple of month), compared to Linux, which may take up to 2 years before releasing a patch.

      I don't mean to rub it in, but it's quite remarkable that if we only count the Linux KERNEL (not including any of the distro's and other Linux OS components) between 2009 and 2017, had 1402 vulnerabilities; while Windows 7 (inc all components) had 792 vulnerabilities - i.e. 77% more vulnerabilities in Linux kernel compared to the entire Win7 OS!

    4. Re:Obvious solution: by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      And what's more, Microsoft patch vulnerabilities far faster (within a couple of month), compared to Linux [slashdot.org], which may take up to 2 years before releasing a patch [zdnet.com].

      Actually, you have your facts misconstrued. Most of those Linux CVE's were patched at the same time they found them and they roll out updates immediately, which is never more than a day or two from having the distro maintainer roll them out also, leaving you free to update and fix the issue. Where as Microsoft can find out about an exploit and wait months to roll out an update. Now the "which may take up to 2 years to fix" well, fact is that may have been in the code for 2 years it wasn't known about for 2 years and you cant fix what you don't know is there. Not to mention shit MS08-067(I had fun with that one for years..) Also you are comparing the Linux kernel of 8 years(multiple versions all being worked on at once) To one version of windows. How about lump ALL supported versions of windows into your numbers and get back to us. You have done nothing to help, only to misinform the masses on multiple things. Like how the Linux kernel structure is completely different than the windows OS structure, And how CVE tallying works. I once again will not say that Linux is 100% secure, but its a far sight more than anything Microsoft is. Not to mention, Look closely at a lot of those exploits. You have to have local access already to the machine, unlike a lot of Microsoft exploits that allow you to attack from anywhere in the world with just an ip and a port number providing they're not behind NAT.

  27. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    Well,
    his (ex) wife is the woman behind that show.
    He is 'only' the CEO.
    How they krganized their surnames I don't know, e.g. if he took her name, and why both still have the same name.

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  28. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by msauve · · Score: 1

    "Yevgeny Kaspersky"

    Is that the retarded angel'o'sphere way of spelling his name using a non-Cyrillic alphabet?

    Seriously, you're trying to be offended.

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  29. Re:US = shithole by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    "Ok, we know you're from the ocean but what ocean is it? The Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean" -- Hank Hill

  30. Re:Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hi by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    More like, don't be an idiot and you wont need an AV.

  31. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yevgeny is the official spellingg of his name in roman letters.
    Eugen is not, and I forgot the retarded way how americans spell Eugen, or perhaps that is just a bad translitteration via the russian way of spelling Eugen?
    Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?
    No german would ever impose his german variant on your name. Why do you impose your variation (of pronounciation) on our names?

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  32. Re:You know what else is a dream? by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 0

    How many votes were changed by this "Russian Hacking (tm)"? So far, these same agencies have said "0". So how is that a hack? The best you could logically come up with is "attempted hack", and that was poorly done. So saying the election was hacked requires a strongly partisan viewpoint to even entertain. In short you are only fooling yourself.

  33. Re:US = shithole by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

    Japanese-ancestry Americans had to put up with this under Roosevelt (a democrat hero) during WW2, and Germans in WW1 (though I don't thing they were put in camps like the Japanese). Muslims in Spain after 1492, if you want historical examples. However, I would guess that similar things happened on the other sides (and Russia today), though that doesn't make it right.

  34. Re: You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no fan of the current administration in Washington, they're dangerous, destructive idiots. Whatever our views, we're not allowed to make up our own facts or claim other's made up facts. The US security agencies have no evidence of a Kremlin led "hack" of US elections and even included a disclaimer in their official reports. Also, Russia did not invade Crimea. It has a large military base there. Shame on Reuters for repeating this nonsense. But then, all the corporate news agencies seem to be little more than PR & marketing agencies for the US regime.

  35. Re:Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hi by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Yes AC
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    From help with Equation Group, Stuxnet

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  36. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

    +1 informative, thank you. Though that sounds like Snowflakes over here would have a fit if they knew that!

  37. Another NSA sposored story from Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Neo-liberal war-loving Clinton voters are seething in utter disbelief as Russia destroy's America's wahhabi 'ISIS' forces in Syria. Remember how the filthy zionist mainstream media, lead by Reuters and the BBC, claimed Russia wasn't fighting 'ISIS'? Of course, the average Clinton voting dribbler won't know that a few weeks back, in an amazing precision strike on two buildings, Russia killed all the significant leaders of ISIS and their UK/USA/Saudi/Israeli handlers. And to the neo-liberals disgust, Trump is going along with a real war in ISIS.

    So in impotent rage, Russia is being targeted by every pro-Clinton force with influence in the USA. War on Russian companies is just part of this. Slashdot constantly demonising Russia is just part of this.

    Hitlery Clinton exterminated SECULAR civilised Libya, where women and gays lived safe happy productive lives. Now Libya is a wahhabi sh-thole, where America recruits tens of thousands of new wahhabi extremists for futue Saudi Arabian wars. Yet filthy Clinton voters dare to suggest Trump is any kind of problem un comparison. Most Clinton supporters are simply braindead, which is why they are warmongers today, whereas in the 1970s they would have been anti-war. Whatever the zionist media tells them to 'think' they 'think'.

    But a significant minority of Clinton supporters are vile zionist racists who, Bill Gates fashion, actively seek the murder of BILLIONS of 'useless eaters' on our planet.

    So innocent Kaspersky gets caught up in the crossfire, and so will other Russian entities until the neo-liberals have their 'hot war' with Russia- and BTW Russian nuclear weapons (and delivery systems and anti missile systems and anti-satellite systems) are vastly superior and more numerous than the "every state must get a piece of the pie - mega pork corruption" American equivalents. In a hot-war which the Clinton supporters are pushing for (as with this story), much of Russia will be destroyed, but 100% of the USA will perish.

    1. Re:Another NSA sposored story from Slashdot. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The war in Syria has never been about the human rights of Syrians. As is usually the case, it's about a gas pipeline that western energy companies want built across Syria, but that won't be built until a 'regime change' in the Syrian government can be accomplished.

    2. Re:Another NSA sposored story from Slashdot. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Spasibo, tovarishch. (Do you get paid in rubles, euros, dollars, or Bitcoin, BTW?)

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  38. Kind of like out companies are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But Eugene Kaspersky was never able to overcome lingering suspicions among U.S. intelligence officials that he and his company were, or could become, pawns of Russia's spy agencies."

    Aren't companies like AT&T, Verizon, Apple, Microsoft, etc, pawns of the United States spy agencies?

    1. Re:Kind of like out companies are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, so they buy from those companies. see how that worked? nothing got by you.

  39. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?

    Is this some of that odd change the subject deflection like what Kellyanne Conway does?

    Anyhow, I hear Trump is looking for a new spokesperson. Imagine the fun you can have when some gaddamned news reporter asks about collusion, and you can go off on a rant about name spelling and pronunciation.

    Dunno if they pay in rubles yet though.

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  40. "Which Side Are You On?" by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 2

    To government agents, it doesn't matter that Kaspersky isn't aiding the Russian government. His company needs to be in the pocket of the US government or they will destroy it. Entities in cybersecurity that are independent of government control and manipulation are defacto considered bad. Just as bad as entities working for Russia.

  41. Re:You know what else is a dream? by sargon666777 · · Score: 1

    Did you know Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? They determined that also..

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  42. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyway, why can we not just lay back and spell the names like they are spelled in the original language? And more important: pronounce it that way?

    Because English speakers are unfamiliar with pronunciation and spelling in those languages? And it's not really relevant to the story?

  43. Denying Crimea invasion by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Propaganda works by citing a Russian invasion of Crimea that never happened

    During 2014, maybe, it was excusable to believe this lie.

    But when, a year later, Russian TV broadcast an entire movie celebrating the invasion — and Putin's direct involvement in it — the excuse vanished. In particular, during the interview, that is part of the film, Putin says:

    I ordered Minister of Defense, why hide, under the guise of reinforcing our military installations in Crimea, to transfer forces of GRU there, marines, and paratroopers. [...] Our advantage was that I was personally involved. Not because I did everything right, but because the country's top people are involved, things are easier for the operators on the ground".

    The cat's been out of the bag since March 2015. Your continuing to lie about it does not help Russia — it just exposes you as an asshole.

    Lie to people often enough and they eventually believe it.

    Yep, this is generally true. But it will not help you here.

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    1. Re: Denying Crimea invasion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I may have read it wrong, but I thought they were purposefully highlighting the absurdity of the lie "Russia did not invade Crimea". Sort of like "The Founders of the Constitution were Christian"

    2. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      'Invasion' is indeed not appropriate because you could just as well call the addition of troops 'reinforcement''. 'Annexation' is a lot more appropriate and hey, Hitler annexed a few territories in 1938/1939 with full approval of the population (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areas_annexed_by_Nazi_Germany) before invading Poland. Always a difficult issue, annexing territory with approval of the population.
      John Mearsheimer explains why despite the aggressive , or at least much more assertive posture of Russia we can still talk to them and respect them on the international stage https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

    3. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by mi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Always a difficult issue, annexing territory with approval of the population.

      Not difficult at all. First of all, how do you even know, there was an actual "approval of the population"? Residents of an occupied territory "voting" in support of the occupying power — is that really that convincing to you?

      But even if a respectable proportion did sincerely want Russia to come over and "protect them". Imagine Mexico "reinforcing" Southern California and Arizona... Why? To protect the Spanish speaking people from the imminent threat of "Nazis" — like Donald Trump and Joe Arpaio... And claim "historical ownership" of the lands going back to Santa Anna.

      Will you really have any difficulty deciding, whether it was an "invasion" and seek a different term? What if they promptly organize a referendum on whether to join Mexico — will you accept its results?

      we can still talk to them and respect them on the international stage

      No, we can't. Russia delenda est. The country — since long before Lenin — is a constant threat to liberty and peace world-wide with nothing especially valuable to justify it... There is definitely nothing to "respect" them for — not even their lousy weaponry.

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    4. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by Zemran · · Score: 1

      No one has ever doubted that troops were stationed at Svastapol. Do you know of any major US naval bases that do not have troops? That does not make an invasion. There was none. It does not matter how many times you call it an invasion, the people of Crimea declared their independence not incoming troops.

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    5. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by mi · · Score: 1

      Do you know of any major US naval bases that do not have troops?

      So, if the American troops stationed in Guantanamo occupied Havana, you would not call it "invasion"? Not even if 10K more troops arrived to Guantanamo for the purpose the week before? What would you call it, and what would the practical difference be?

      That does not make an invasion

      Actually, it does. But that was not all, because in addition to those troops, Putin has ordered — as he proudly admits in the cited interview — for thousands more of elite forces to move into Crimea. To occupy the airports, government buildings, major intersections, etc. An act of war, an invasion followed by occupation.

      the people of Crimea declared their independence

      The fake referendum took place weeks after the invasion occurred and the occupation was complete.

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    6. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by Zemran · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If the American troops stationed in Guantanamo occupied Havana invaded that would be an invasion but if the people of Havana overthrew their government that would not be. There was no invasion, it did not happen. If Cuba was overthrown by anti US rebels that were busy murdering US citizens the US would reinforce Guantanamo. That would not be a shock. There was no fake referendum, calling it such only shows how little you know the area. The people are Russian and work for Russia. If Russia left they would be out of work and overrun by Svoboda Nazis. Why would they not vote for continuing the good life? 50% of Ukraine is ethnic Russian and they were being dragged out of their houses and burnt alive. Crimea had a choice and took it without even needing to think about it as there was no viable option. Why would you think that Russian troops would be needed to invade a Russian population?

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    7. Re:Denying Crimea invasion by mi · · Score: 1

      if the people of Havana overthrew their government that would not be [an invasion].

      How is the Cuban people's hypothetical uprising relevant to whether or not American action is an invasion or not?

      If Cuba was overthrown by anti US rebels that were busy murdering US citizens the US would reinforce Guantanamo.

      If that were to happen, the US would've evacuated the endangered citizens. If an invasion were necessary to conduct such an evacuation, they would've invaded. They would not have annexed the country, however — certainly not with a hasty fake referendum. For example, Puerto Rico conducts a referendum every 10 years on whether to remain an American protectorate, to become fully independent, or to join the US as the 51st state...

      There was no invasion, it did not happen.

      Foreign troops, that weren't in a country before, went in there to take over the country's infrastructure, government buildings, and military installations. Khm, if only we had a term that describes such an action... Oh wait, I know! English has a word for this: "invasion".

      If Russia left they would be out of work and overrun by Svoboda Nazis.

      Dude, you are too embarrassing even for a Russian... You can not — not in the same post, anyway — deny the very fact of invasion and explain, how it protected people.

      There was no fake referendum

      A referendum on loyalty to the occupying power is meaningless — unless you also accept 100% of North Koreans adoring Kim and 100% of Iraqis electing Hussein. Moreover, the "referendum" took place mid-March, whereas the invasion began at the end of February. Even if we were, contrary to all precedent, grant the populace the power to decide to switch countries and accepted the "referendum" as genuine, Russia's action was still an invasion because it took place before this "expression of popular will".

      But do remember this conversation, when polite German-speaking blonds without insignia organize theirs in Königsberg and (just as polite) Asian-looking men — in Kurills. Oh, and Tahanrog would, no doubt, elect to return to Ukraine, when polite guys from the Right Sector take it over.

      Why would you think that Russian troops would be needed to invade a Russian population?

      Troops don't invade populations. "English, motherfucker, do you speak it?!" Troops invade countries. In 2014 Russian troops invaded Ukraine. That was the beginning of the end of Russia as we knew it. Good riddance. After centuries of Orda-induced hiatus, Kyiv is once again rising as the center of Eastern European Slavs. Brush up on your Ukrainian, you'll need it.

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  44. On cowardice by mi · · Score: 1

    Why did Americans turn into McCarthyist, bedwetting cowards

    It is not cowardice to fight your enemy, quite the opposite.

    Now, if we ignored Russia's aggressions — such as because they have nukes, or because we don't want to interfere with what they do to their immediate neighbors — now that would've been cowardice. Yes...

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    1. Re:On cowardice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberal Metrosexuals are happy to ignore dictators with nukes. North Korea for starters.

  45. Re: You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US security agencies have no evidence of a Kremlin led "hack" of US elections

    They say they do but it's classified. Those who have seen it believe it (possibly excepting Trump but he also believes he's doing a great job).

    Also, Russia did not invade Crimea. It has a large military base there.

    Well that's good news for Trump. He can invade Cuba, the Philippines and Germany because the US has a large military base there.

    You Russians must think we're dumb. OK, we are dumb but not all of us.

  46. Re: You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Russians didn't change any votes, but that doesn't mean they didn't influence the election. Trump's dirty laundry wasn't aired the same way Clinton's was. I guarantee you that many people changed their vote based on what the DNC did to Sanders.

    And no, I'm not partisan. I have a strong dislike of both candidates. I'm not even sure we're worse off with Trump.

  47. Re:You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was the big difference that they were under extreme pressure to do so from the Bush administration.

  48. Re:Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, because softwares don't have zero days and don't have perpetual vulnerabilities.
    How many drive-by's have you heard on the news which doesn't require user interaction? Zero?

    You can be the number 1 geek or numb3r 1 haX0r on the planet but the software you're using is also vulnerable to zero
    days and you can get infected even by doing nothing.

  49. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by msauve · · Score: 1

    "Yevgeny is the official spellingg of his name in roman letters."

    No, it isn't. Who made you boss? Perhaps you should STFU, and let Eugene spell his name the way he wants in the Roman alphabet. Can't get any more "official" than that, you retarded foreigner.

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  50. Careful with that hack, Eugene by bestweasel · · Score: 2

    Call me contrary but what has really convinced me of a large-scale Russian state plot to influence the US election are the huge numbers of posts here (and on other social media) denying it, often with obfuscation, half-truths and straight lies.

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

          Oscar Wilde - The Importance of Not Getting Caught

    1. Re:Careful with that hack, Eugene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then the world must be flat, you idiot, because countless people are telling you it's round.

    2. Re:Careful with that hack, Eugene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the record Oscar Wilde got caught

  51. Re:"cybersecurity software firm that bears his nam by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    The official spelling of his name is the way he chooses to spell it.

    Based on his twitter handle: e_kaspersky and the fact that he himself has verified to twitter as Eugene Kaspersky, the fact that his bio on his own company website spells it Eugene, and his official blog with the title (and I quote) "NOTES, COMMENT AND BUZZ FROM EUGENE KASPERSKY – OFFICIAL BLOG" I would suggest the only person trying to impose anything on anyone is you. Go away and leave his name alone.

  52. Re: You know what else is a dream? by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

    the US govt is threating Kaspersky...get real or the govt will end up at mcdonalds.

  53. Re: You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they arent under extreme pressure from the Democrats now? Funny how that argument works both ways.

  54. Re: You know what else is a dream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do know the republicans are in charge now right?

    Don't put that on me Ricky Bobby.

  55. Re: Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anti virus doesn't protect you from 0 days.

    It protects you from known threats.

  56. Re: Kaspersky AV too good, NSA/CIA malware can't h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stuuupid comment you have tere, the AC didn't claim AV can protect you from zero days. He just pointed out that being an "idiot" is not a pre-requisite for being infected. You can get infected by just doing nothing because of zero days.

  57. Everyone is saint by Mondor · · Score: 1

    Kaspersky finished the High School of KGB, which is now called the Institute of Cryptography, Communications and Computer Science (IKSI). Sure he doesn't collaborate with any government.

    It is safe to assume that every, and I mean EVERY computer security company and every large computer equipment manufacturer (DELL, Samsung, Intel, LG to name a few from Snowden's list) collaborates with their government. And Russians are definitely not worse than NSA. And surely less intrusive.

  58. That's business by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    This is fake news. Someone had a dream to do something and it didn't work. That's business. Nothing is a sure thing. Next year maybe he'll get the contract and some other company will lose it.

  59. Kaspersky's American Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the shenanigans of NSA etc.. with backdoors, front doors, malware, etc., I am surprised that the USG ever allowed Kaspersky to be installed on any USG systems.

    I am also surprised that most of the comments appear to have moved from the article to other tangential topics.