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Michigan Will Build 25 Self-Driving Trolleys In 2017 (observer.com)

French trolley-maker Navya announced its first manufacturing facility in North America. The company will build a 20,000 square foot facility for the construction of its self-driving trolley, the Arma. "It aims to construct 25 vehicles there this year," reports Observer. "It has 45 vehicles deployed around the world already. These robots have a max speed of about 27 miles per hour, but typically travel more like 12 miles per hour (the speed of a typical bike ride). Each one can transport about 15 people." From the report: The plant will be built in Saline, Michigan, a suburban town just south of Ann Arbor with a population of less than 9,000. The Michigan Economic Development Corporation estimates that the plant will support 50 new jobs. "As the greater Ann Arbor area continues to establish itself as a hub for autonomous vehicle development, we feel it's the perfect location for us. Strong government and community support for mobility initiatives combined with an excellent talent pool provide the ideal environment for our expansion in North America," Navya CEO Christophe Sapet said in a press release. "I have no doubt that they will become an important and valued member of our already stellar business community," Brian Marl, Saline's mayor, said in a release.

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  1. 'trolley' ? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry for growing up in the wrong hemisphere but I'm just confused by the American usage of the word 'trolley'.

    It just looks like a 'mini-bus' to me.

    1. Re:'trolley' ? by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      Nah mate, this is a trolley. You probably call it something else though....like wheelcage

      http://unisci24.com/data_image...

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    2. Re:'trolley' ? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Sorry for growing up in the wrong hemisphere

      As you should be! All that sun and those attractive women while we have rain, snow and chavvy women... you bastard!

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    3. Re:'trolley' ? by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      Same, we push trollies around the shops where I'm from.

      Next you'll be telling me that you call a car trunk a "boot" even though you don't kick anyone with it.

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    4. Re:'trolley' ? by swell · · Score: 2

      In American mass transportation circles, a 'trolley' is usually a vehicle on tracks that handles urban transit. It's not a 'train' that travels at higher speeds between cities, and it's not a bus which has rubber tires suitable for public roads. It is said that those rubber tires do as much damage to the roads as 1,000 cars.

      In San Diego there are bright red buses that are shaped like trolleys and visit all the local attractions. Tourists are expected to find them inviting and similar to the transit trolleys of a bygone era.

      Many US cities still have tracks buried under their main streets that were once used by trolleys. The commercialization of automobiles competed with the trolleys, so lobbyists pressured the leaders of each city to abandon their trolley system to encourage auto sales. Kinda like industry lobbyists pressure cities today not to install public internet utilities so that they can lock you in to local monopolies.

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  2. Re:Because they can rather than because its needed by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Autonomous driving allows us to put more vehicles in places where they may not be needed, or not very valuable. It could also allow more people to use a vehicle, and will likely create more uses like overnight driving (while sleeping in the car) instead of taking a plane, using a car as an office, having cars run errands (pick up) you'd otherwise bundle, etc. In short, it might put many more cars on the road, which will come with a cost of its own. Not saying this is bad overall, but its something that doesn't always get talked about when swooning over self driving tech.

  3. Re:Why Michigan? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Ford built there because of cheap labour. Right next door is Canada, where they work for a small fraction of what an American worker would fetch.

    The same Henry Ford who doubled the minimum wage he paid his workers and reduced the work hours from nine to eight?

    http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2014/01/03/history/post-perspective/ford-doubles-minimum-wage.html

  4. Re:Because they can rather than because its needed by Viol8 · · Score: 2

    People don't want to share the cars they've paid good $$$$ for with complete strangers unless there's a very tempting cash advantage. Something the tech evangelists in their silicon valley castles tend to forget.

  5. Re:Because they can rather than because its needed by bano · · Score: 2

    Trolleys always operate on a fixed route.

  6. Re:Because they can rather than because its needed by plague911 · · Score: 3

    Because the taxi industry currently has high barriers to entry. Autonomous vehicles reduce them. Specifically Taxi drivers have to have rigorous background checks (for good reason), this acts as a huge block. You need to hire someone to drive at undesirable times, another huge block. Thirdly you have to have a vehicle specifically for Taxi driving, another huge block.

    Now with an autonomous vehicle and a nice easy app to join.....say....uber.... I can easily start my own taxi business with little to no effort. Say I work a classical 9-5. Maybe I get up a little early and get in to work at 7:45. Send my autonomous car out from 8:00 to 10:30 while doing my day job. I take in a nice $50 + gas and mileage. Now say I want to go out Friday and Saturday night. I can still do that and send my autonomous taxi out while I am out in the bars. If I am lucky maybe my car will pay for my drinks.

    The ease of entering the market now with autonomous cars will theoretically push the price of a taxi to the marginal cost

  7. Re:Because they can rather than because its needed by plague911 · · Score: 3
    Now this is just conspiracy theory noise. Yes trucking companies will save and make more money due to not having to pay truck drivers. Yes some of those savings will get passed along to retailers and yes they will make more money. Here's the part that you just ignore, yes some of those savings will get passed onto end consumers. Capitalism has its issues, but this is one of the areas that actually functions close to theory.

    Beyond that, the majority of the public transportation I take is ummm public.... and owned by the government, who I have exactly 1 share in. Sooo when the government pays less for their drivers, I win.